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I had thought a recent swarajamag article link mentioning Bollywho to be one of that consistent but minimal stream of secular/unHindu even anti-Hindu articles that Swarajyamag now and again releases among its wider output range. E.g. earlier this site had a commie article promoting Doniger and Doniger type views on Hindoo scriptures and Indic imagery, more recently it was peddling an article of "muslims" who made medieval Krishna "art" (uh, as the comments pointed out the style was Persian not islamic and the style may have trended in the medieval period in parts of India, but it never compared to proper Hindoo imagery either in excellence or accuracy. It was an earlier lowpoint of Hindu "art", the present seeing the lowest yet - though there is fortunately also still traditional Hindoo imagery being made by HindOOs.)
Turns out there is too little info available to non-subscribers in the following swarajyamag article to draw any conclusions on whether it is popcorn else subversive junk or something less offensive. But it turns out to have - or point to - useful data for this set of posts:
swarajyamag.com/magazine/boy-next-door-in-bollywood/
(The rest of the article is for subscribers only and I doubt it's remotely interesting.)
Dhanush's religion turns out to be listed at wackypedia as Hinduism. That's a first... (that I remember noticing)
His father in law is apparently Rajnikanth, the honorary Tamizh who is actually from Maharashtra like Shivaji himself. Also like the arch-heathen Shivaji, Rajnikanth is known to be a heathen (aren't all Maharashtrians? Aren't they famous for their Hindu heathenism?) Rajnikanth himself doesn't count as a data point as he's of an older, more Hindoo generation. Yet, his influence is apparently to be seen on his son-in-law: pictures showed Dhanush wearing a Rudraksha and it seems he got this from Rajnikanth. Rajnikanth's daughters (he seems to have more than one) would be Hindoo, being raised by the likes of Rajni (and I'm guessing Rajni's wife would be a devout Hindoo too).
BTW, Rajnikanth's daughters seem to take after their mother in terms of skintone - being fair (in Indian terms) - as happens with many Indian offspring where one parent is fair. Sometimes the kids are even fairer. (And when Indians move west they often turn several shades lighter.) <snip> Why does that even happen, and so regularly nowadays among Indians? I know the genetics behind skin colour is deemed complicated, but is fairness really that additive with Indians? More importantly: Are darker colours endangered in India? But darker skintones look so nice on Indian men and women... I like Hindoo ancestors having brought forth multi-coloured litters. It's our claim to fame, one of our main sources of phenotypical diversity. Will Dhanush' kids also end up looking more like their mother in this? (Surely she married him so they can take after him?) Sigh.
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Totally off-topic, but -
I don't know why the swarajyamag article intro is negating Indian men's assets via her description of Dhanush:
- looking ordinary: he looks "ordinary" only in the sense of a cuteness rather all too common in India. But common still doesn't negate the cuteness. Sure there are more common looks that are even cuter (like slightly wavier hair being more common in TN, no less fetching) but Dhanush is hands-down better looking than the bollywho khans by far, not to mention the murderously-ugly Pakistani contingent parked on campus: yikes, must be inbreds.
Plus he has facial features and genetics which will make him look younger for way longer than the christoislamaniacs infesting bollywho.
- scruffy appearance: scruffy yet still cute. Now that's a skill. Perhaps it even adds to the cuteness? See it all the time among Indian men. They look pleasant after they wake up in the morning, when they've fallen down, when they've rolled off a hill. So, be it unkempt or dusted off, they're aesthetically pleasing.
- rail-thin physique: uh, Hindoo men totally *own* the lanky look. They make it into an asset, like Japanese men (who are often thinner, btw) do.
Can contrast with the scrawny look doing nothing for Dutch male youth - each leg half the width of their female counterparts [which made Dutch female teens feel "fat"], the females look/feel broader, and certainly more intimidating. (Hopefully the Dutch males outgrow this, as it made them look weak.) Indian and Japanese men, despite many being naturally lanky, look masculine and like they'll stand their ground.
The laughable puffed-up look of bollywho actors (like you can deflate them by jabbing a needle into them - and who doesn't want to?) is tacky and disgusting, and makes them look fat moreover. It certainly doesn't look natural.
Whereas Hindoo men innately have a nice shoulder-to ratio. And not looking like an over-inflated he-man from bollypoo, doesn't mean Hindoo men don't look naturally built and masculine. It's a very unaffected hence cool look seen in every young Hindoo male in TN and KN that I ever remember looking at long enough to notice.
Hindoo men look best natural. A.o.t. bollypoo males who have that salman khan/hritik roshan blow-up doll look going. (Who even came up with that crazy trend and which idiot Indian woman thought it worth encouraging? Oh wait, must have been christoislamics: they have no taste. Native Indian men are wasted on them after all.)
]
Anyway,
- whether Dhanush has remained Hindu because of his heathen father-in-law, who originates in the regions of the hyper-heathen Shivaji, and because of his consequently Hindoo wife,
- or whether he was always consciously Hindu without requiring external reinforcement (in TN and other southern states, heathenism is still deeply embedded among the insubvertible among the laity who are yet many in number, but don't know whether any of this applies among cine stars/those who would be cine stars or other Indian pop culture icons),
- or whether it still early days and one can't tell whether he will do what other modern Hindus do: de-heathenise (one never can tell with today's Hindus how far their loyalty to their Gods is innate hence constant, or if something may be able to subvert them at any time),
whatever the reason and be it permanent or temporal,
that's at least one apparently (somewhat) popular Indian actor who is still known to be Hindu anno 2015. Though any actual Hindoo in India would be wearing kungamam/veebuti/namam/chandanam markings at all times (or when off-camera, in Dhanush' case).
ADDED:
Unexpected. Turns out anti-Hindu "Kamal Hassan" (actually Kamala hAsan) - dubbed atheist, but of the peculiarly anti-Hindu, beef-eating, progressive variety -
has a daughter who's actually a Hindu.
Figure she must have inherited that from the mother, who's apparently Marathi-and-Rajput (aren't these supposed to be hyper heathens from both ends?) and who at least got divorced from him.
Wackypedia mentions her religion as Hinduism, but that may mean nothing. This however, in the catholic rag:
deccanchronicle.com/131120/entertainment-kollywood/article/shruti-haasan-loves-visiting-temples
While the article's title and that last line sound like they could also pass for the "temple culture" new age groups, "108 pradakshinams" around a kovil are a Hindoo ritual practise.
Suppose the anti-Hindu Kamal Hassaan made a mistake in allowing his daughter to be named "Shruti Rajalakshmi".
While I can't recognise her from one picture to another - either she looks different in all of them or there's nothing distinctive to her that I can anchor/identify her with - she looks like what I used to think Iranians would look like (though it's not what they look like): very fair with dark hair.* Must have got that from her mother's side. Looks nothing like Kamal Hassaan. Her original nose was probably from her dad, but she's replaced it with one that's made her face popular. Actually, that might partly explain why she looks very different all the time/hard to recognise.
*Though her actual features are specifically very Indian; especially not uncommon in southern regions.
[She has a sister "Akshara" that's like a twin but with grey eyes. Must have got that from the mother too. Confirmed (pic of mother when young).]
Of course none of this means that either Dhanush or Shruti are insubvertible Hindoos. Again: she might for instance marry some christoislamic and convert out, and he may subvert in time (ya never know) - as so many do. But as at the last seen dates they seemed to have been Hindus. So, although not as common or as visible to the public as the in-your-face christianism in India, there are some actors (in and partially of TN) who are Hindu at this stage.
Since I've found 2 without much looking, there may be more.
Since more Hindu-origin actors in films in TN may still be (somewhat) Hindu, Bollywho is a separate question.
Intriguing: catholicism tried to ban a movie their mother did about a decade back:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Evil_%E2%80%93_A_True_Story
Where's the "freedom of expression" crusaders, like Doniger and co?
dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-catholic-groups-now-target-sacred-evil-1029609
"Catholic Secular Forum". What an oxymoron. More christo-doublespeak. It's the secular arm of the church that does all the banning and suppressing of freedom of speech and expression when christianism is on the receiving end or if there's any non-christian stuff in a film.
No wonder Hindus are only ever labelled communal, since secular means catholic/christist apparently.
I had thought a recent swarajamag article link mentioning Bollywho to be one of that consistent but minimal stream of secular/unHindu even anti-Hindu articles that Swarajyamag now and again releases among its wider output range. E.g. earlier this site had a commie article promoting Doniger and Doniger type views on Hindoo scriptures and Indic imagery, more recently it was peddling an article of "muslims" who made medieval Krishna "art" (uh, as the comments pointed out the style was Persian not islamic and the style may have trended in the medieval period in parts of India, but it never compared to proper Hindoo imagery either in excellence or accuracy. It was an earlier lowpoint of Hindu "art", the present seeing the lowest yet - though there is fortunately also still traditional Hindoo imagery being made by HindOOs.)
Turns out there is too little info available to non-subscribers in the following swarajyamag article to draw any conclusions on whether it is popcorn else subversive junk or something less offensive. But it turns out to have - or point to - useful data for this set of posts:
swarajyamag.com/magazine/boy-next-door-in-bollywood/
Quote:Dhanush, with his ordinary looks, rail-thin physique, and scruffy appearance, seems to be a very unlikely candidate to make it big in Bollywood. What is this Tamil star's secret?
(The rest of the article is for subscribers only and I doubt it's remotely interesting.)
Dhanush's religion turns out to be listed at wackypedia as Hinduism. That's a first... (that I remember noticing)
His father in law is apparently Rajnikanth, the honorary Tamizh who is actually from Maharashtra like Shivaji himself. Also like the arch-heathen Shivaji, Rajnikanth is known to be a heathen (aren't all Maharashtrians? Aren't they famous for their Hindu heathenism?) Rajnikanth himself doesn't count as a data point as he's of an older, more Hindoo generation. Yet, his influence is apparently to be seen on his son-in-law: pictures showed Dhanush wearing a Rudraksha and it seems he got this from Rajnikanth. Rajnikanth's daughters (he seems to have more than one) would be Hindoo, being raised by the likes of Rajni (and I'm guessing Rajni's wife would be a devout Hindoo too).
BTW, Rajnikanth's daughters seem to take after their mother in terms of skintone - being fair (in Indian terms) - as happens with many Indian offspring where one parent is fair. Sometimes the kids are even fairer. (And when Indians move west they often turn several shades lighter.) <snip> Why does that even happen, and so regularly nowadays among Indians? I know the genetics behind skin colour is deemed complicated, but is fairness really that additive with Indians? More importantly: Are darker colours endangered in India? But darker skintones look so nice on Indian men and women... I like Hindoo ancestors having brought forth multi-coloured litters. It's our claim to fame, one of our main sources of phenotypical diversity. Will Dhanush' kids also end up looking more like their mother in this? (Surely she married him so they can take after him?) Sigh.
[
Totally off-topic, but -
I don't know why the swarajyamag article intro is negating Indian men's assets via her description of Dhanush:
- looking ordinary: he looks "ordinary" only in the sense of a cuteness rather all too common in India. But common still doesn't negate the cuteness. Sure there are more common looks that are even cuter (like slightly wavier hair being more common in TN, no less fetching) but Dhanush is hands-down better looking than the bollywho khans by far, not to mention the murderously-ugly Pakistani contingent parked on campus: yikes, must be inbreds.
Plus he has facial features and genetics which will make him look younger for way longer than the christoislamaniacs infesting bollywho.
- scruffy appearance: scruffy yet still cute. Now that's a skill. Perhaps it even adds to the cuteness? See it all the time among Indian men. They look pleasant after they wake up in the morning, when they've fallen down, when they've rolled off a hill. So, be it unkempt or dusted off, they're aesthetically pleasing.
- rail-thin physique: uh, Hindoo men totally *own* the lanky look. They make it into an asset, like Japanese men (who are often thinner, btw) do.
Can contrast with the scrawny look doing nothing for Dutch male youth - each leg half the width of their female counterparts [which made Dutch female teens feel "fat"], the females look/feel broader, and certainly more intimidating. (Hopefully the Dutch males outgrow this, as it made them look weak.) Indian and Japanese men, despite many being naturally lanky, look masculine and like they'll stand their ground.
The laughable puffed-up look of bollywho actors (like you can deflate them by jabbing a needle into them - and who doesn't want to?) is tacky and disgusting, and makes them look fat moreover. It certainly doesn't look natural.
Whereas Hindoo men innately have a nice shoulder-to ratio. And not looking like an over-inflated he-man from bollypoo, doesn't mean Hindoo men don't look naturally built and masculine. It's a very unaffected hence cool look seen in every young Hindoo male in TN and KN that I ever remember looking at long enough to notice.
Hindoo men look best natural. A.o.t. bollypoo males who have that salman khan/hritik roshan blow-up doll look going. (Who even came up with that crazy trend and which idiot Indian woman thought it worth encouraging? Oh wait, must have been christoislamics: they have no taste. Native Indian men are wasted on them after all.)
]
Anyway,
- whether Dhanush has remained Hindu because of his heathen father-in-law, who originates in the regions of the hyper-heathen Shivaji, and because of his consequently Hindoo wife,
- or whether he was always consciously Hindu without requiring external reinforcement (in TN and other southern states, heathenism is still deeply embedded among the insubvertible among the laity who are yet many in number, but don't know whether any of this applies among cine stars/those who would be cine stars or other Indian pop culture icons),
- or whether it still early days and one can't tell whether he will do what other modern Hindus do: de-heathenise (one never can tell with today's Hindus how far their loyalty to their Gods is innate hence constant, or if something may be able to subvert them at any time),
whatever the reason and be it permanent or temporal,
that's at least one apparently (somewhat) popular Indian actor who is still known to be Hindu anno 2015. Though any actual Hindoo in India would be wearing kungamam/veebuti/namam/chandanam markings at all times (or when off-camera, in Dhanush' case).
ADDED:
Unexpected. Turns out anti-Hindu "Kamal Hassan" (actually Kamala hAsan) - dubbed atheist, but of the peculiarly anti-Hindu, beef-eating, progressive variety -
has a daughter who's actually a Hindu.
Figure she must have inherited that from the mother, who's apparently Marathi-and-Rajput (aren't these supposed to be hyper heathens from both ends?) and who at least got divorced from him.
Wackypedia mentions her religion as Hinduism, but that may mean nothing. This however, in the catholic rag:
deccanchronicle.com/131120/entertainment-kollywood/article/shruti-haasan-loves-visiting-temples
Quote:Shruti Haasan loves visiting temples
DC | Anupama Subramanian | November 20, 2013, 14.11 pm IST
Unlike her father Ulaganayagan Kamal Haasan, who is an atheist and a rational thinker, Shruti Haasan seems to believe in God and visits temples whenever she finds time. Shruti visited Chilkur Balaji Temple near Hyderabad and she performed 108 pradhakshanams. The star has also paid a visit to Sai Baba Temple at Shridi.
She wrote in her microblogging website, ââ¬ÅMy first time to Shirdi ââ¬â amazing darshan at the Sai Baba mandir! What a Sunday!ââ¬Â
(That's still something Hindus do.)
The actress was also raving about enjoying home food at her auntââ¬â¢s place at Mumbai where she took a break for a while. She tweeted, ââ¬ÅVisited my beautiful athai, atthimber and anna in Chembur ââ¬â finally some real dosa and thakkali thogayal in Mumbai! Memories, love family. Kartigai deepam in the Chembur Murugan kovil, today has been a spectacular day.ââ¬Â
[...]
While the article's title and that last line sound like they could also pass for the "temple culture" new age groups, "108 pradakshinams" around a kovil are a Hindoo ritual practise.
Suppose the anti-Hindu Kamal Hassaan made a mistake in allowing his daughter to be named "Shruti Rajalakshmi".
While I can't recognise her from one picture to another - either she looks different in all of them or there's nothing distinctive to her that I can anchor/identify her with - she looks like what I used to think Iranians would look like (though it's not what they look like): very fair with dark hair.* Must have got that from her mother's side. Looks nothing like Kamal Hassaan. Her original nose was probably from her dad, but she's replaced it with one that's made her face popular. Actually, that might partly explain why she looks very different all the time/hard to recognise.
*Though her actual features are specifically very Indian; especially not uncommon in southern regions.
[She has a sister "Akshara" that's like a twin but with grey eyes. Must have got that from the mother too. Confirmed (pic of mother when young).]
Of course none of this means that either Dhanush or Shruti are insubvertible Hindoos. Again: she might for instance marry some christoislamic and convert out, and he may subvert in time (ya never know) - as so many do. But as at the last seen dates they seemed to have been Hindus. So, although not as common or as visible to the public as the in-your-face christianism in India, there are some actors (in and partially of TN) who are Hindu at this stage.
Since I've found 2 without much looking, there may be more.
Since more Hindu-origin actors in films in TN may still be (somewhat) Hindu, Bollywho is a separate question.
Intriguing: catholicism tried to ban a movie their mother did about a decade back:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Evil_%E2%80%93_A_True_Story
Quote:Political
The Catholic Secular Forum demanded a separate screening of the film as they said that it promoted witchcraft and violence and indoctrinated the people in evil. There were warnings of possible arson and violence.[5]
References
"'Sacred Evil' a no-no for non-believers". Monsters and Critics. 2006-06-03. Retrieved 2010-08-05.
Mishra, Anshika (2006-05-29). "The ââ¬Ëfaithfulââ¬â¢ will watch Sacred Evil - Mumbai - DNA". Dnaindia.com. Retrieved 2010-08-05.
"Sacred Evil : Movie Review". Glamsham.com. Retrieved 2010-08-05.
"Sacred Evil: Promo Watch". Bollywoodhungama.com. 2006-05-04. Retrieved 2010-08-05.
Mishra, Ankit (2006-05-16). "Catholic groups now target ââ¬ËSacred Evilââ¬â¢ - Entertainment - DNA". Dnaindia.com. Retrieved 2010-08-05.
Where's the "freedom of expression" crusaders, like Doniger and co?
dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-catholic-groups-now-target-sacred-evil-1029609
Quote:Catholic groups now target ââ¬ËSacred Evilââ¬â¢
Tuesday, 16 May 2006 - 7:21pm IST
Shubha Shetty-Saha
After the hue and cry raised by Catholic organisations over ââ¬ËDa Vinci Codeââ¬â¢ and ââ¬ËTickle My Funny Boneââ¬â¢, now the Catholic Secular Forum (CSF) has asked the censor board to also ban the forthcoming film ââ¬ËSacred Evilââ¬â¢.
Gerry Coelho, the general secretary of CSF has said that the Censor Board should have included a Christian member on the board when issuing a certificate to the film.
[...]
"Catholic Secular Forum". What an oxymoron. More christo-doublespeak. It's the secular arm of the church that does all the banning and suppressing of freedom of speech and expression when christianism is on the receiving end or if there's any non-christian stuff in a film.
No wonder Hindus are only ever labelled communal, since secular means catholic/christist apparently.