Cannot be sure but the accent sounds TSPian. Could be TSPian or an IM from one of the mini-TSPs inside India.
Of the world leaders statements only the Russians show some firmness. It looks as though our napuMsaka PM shows less determination.
hara hara mahAdeva is what the the scumbags should hear before they converted to fertilizer. Allah, my foot, hara hara mahAdeva.
Terrorists set up control rooms in Taj and Trident
Amazing they are holding out for so long.....
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I am floating an idea to start diaper campaign for Shame of India Manmohan Singh. He need lot of diapers now. Sullas are killing Westeners in India and especailly they are targeting far left EU guys.
Appointed joker Prime Minister of India is not only power greddy but shameless ......
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Mudyji,
That's a terrific idea. I think we should get more members in on this idea and send this to him as a gift for managing to still stay in office despite the 4 odd years of impotence.
<!--QuoteBegin-Shambhu+Nov 26 2008, 10:13 PM-->QUOTE(Shambhu @ Nov 26 2008, 10:13 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-DaraSingh+Nov 27 2008, 04:40 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DaraSingh @ Nov 27 2008, 04:40 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Shambhu+Nov 26 2008, 07:04 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shambhu @ Nov 26 2008, 07:04 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Heard that BBC is very critical of kaangress ..
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Can you cite examples? I'd really like to see this.
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I heard that statement on another forum. Maybe a guy living in UK watching BBC..
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Oh, well, that would be nice if SOMEONE non-Indian saw things for what they really are. Instead of saying congress is right when it screams SECULARISM at the top of its lungs and moving on, if someone were actually critical of these worthless bums, maybe we're off to a better start (media-wise) than I thought.
<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+Nov 27 2008, 01:21 PM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ Nov 27 2008, 01:21 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Terrorists set up control rooms in Taj and Trident
Amazing they are holding out for so long.....
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They are holding out because we have incompetent cowards in police, army, and civilian leadership. All cowards causing national embarrassment.
2 Army Jawans killed.
I am very sad because of these bafoon indian leaders are responsible for these Jawan death.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 26 2008, 09:58 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 26 2008, 09:58 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->All dead terrorist should be given last rites from General Pershing's book.
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Mudyji,
I think that's completely unfair to the pigs that must get slaughtered. Animal rights must also be considered. It's only under the 'animal rights' pretext that we must feel obliged to give these monsters a decent burial. However, I do believe that must be other methods for deterrence.
If someone can help me out with this (I've tried,) that'd be great. There was a hostage situation during the Soviet era where they took a bunch of Soviets hostage, to which the KGB responded by rounding up some Spetsnaz operatives. The Spetsnaz guys found the brother of the terrorist leading the operation, cut off his testicles, put it in the guy's mouth and sent the severed head (with the testicles in it) to the terrorist. Their response to the 'negotiations' were that if the terrorists didn't stop, they'd send every one of their family members to them.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 27 2008, 12:59 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 27 2008, 12:59 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Nov 27 2008, 09:53 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bodhi @ Nov 27 2008, 09:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->This is either too naive, or too boneheaded. Aren't ATS teams across the states taught to wear bulletproof jackets when leading such counter operations? Same for two leading encounter specialists of Mumbai Police who are martyred. Same for the Delhi Police Inspector M C Sharma during Batala. Why do they not wear jackets??? Or is it the case of what yudhiShThira told the yakSha - that none thinks death was meant for oneself too!
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They were showing clips before these guys went for action, their behavior was unprofessional, looks like they were drunk, making fuss with helmet. Whole body language was arrogrance and lack of professionalism. No discipline, these guys were CM and Amar Singh stooge but terrorist were not very selective whether they were CM or Amar's paid khaki.
If you compare with US or British SWAT team, one can see complete difference.
even county level SWAT team are thousand times better and very disciplined.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 27 2008, 01:14 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 27 2008, 01:14 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Indian Government failed to provide key spokeperson. Media is having field day. No control on message. PM is sleeping. Queen Sonia is eating scones and cloated cream. ATS guys turn out to be macho without machoness.
NSG came late, Army reached before hand. Head dead, rest of ATS collapsed. Complete failure of police work.
After 15 hours situation is same.
Complete failure of whole system. Lack of professionalism and after so many terrorist attack they are still unprepared clueless. Zero credibility.
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Mudy, whenever I argue with a pakora gassing indian that we have such problems with training, equipment and general professionalism, everyone always argues against it. Their standard response is, 'o no yaar, v r gud u no. v r vry saf nd v vil do yevriting yin yavar pavar 2 kil terorisht.'
It's not so easy to ignore the reality when they all behave contrary to the popular belief, is it? If they were as trained, equipped, well behaved and all these things they claimed to be, there should not have been a single uniformed personnel's death. Not one jawan, commando, or law enforcement officer's death. End of story.
DaraSinghji,
Moron Singh of India who tie UN's pagari will spread his pagari on road for terrorist to walk over it because otherwise Sonia auntie will wip his behind with her sleeper every morning.
Moron Singh born without his nuts should resign and stay in his Amar Colony corner house or Chnadigarh or Canada or US. He can enjoy is World bank pension and PM pension which he earned by Indian blood.
sonia and mms are holding a meeting at the airport and munching on pakoras and scones
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Moron Singh of India who tie UN's pagari will spread his pagari on road for terrorist to walk over it because otherwise Sonia auntie will wip his behind with her sleeper every morning.
Moron Singh born without his nuts should resign and stay in his Amar Colony corner house or Chnadigarh or Canada or US. He can enjoy is World bank pension and PM pension which he earned by Indian blood.
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Mudyji,
This is quite possibly the saddest story, especially when these worthless, most incompetent politicians are even given the 15 minutes of attention to consider them for candidacy. Aren't there measures to oust a leader in India should the people feel disserviced by the leader? If it isn't, no wonder elected officials get away with so much without having any real action taken against them. If it is, that's even sadder because there is an entire nation living in amnesia, as if nothing concerns them unless it has directly affected their life.
And the fact that they act so complacently, despite the grave failures of their leadership speaks volumes of the necessity of democracy. All the people that voice it are commie goondas, whereas people who should speak out, take their freedom of speech for granted and use it for worthless garbage. With that said, I don't think commies deserve freedom of speech, nor do I think that people that take their freedoms for granted, i.e. as entitlements, should be denied that freedom that they think is an entitlement.
What a bunch of coolies, Mudyji. Is this the sad state of our nation?
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Breaking news:
MMS experimenting with Viagra. He speculates that maybe a creating a non-existant sex life (a.k.a. self sex,) could assist him in dealing with terrorishm. His yekshpurt yenalyshish thinks that this may be so.
Why are these Kommondho's dying? Against 1 injured terrorist. LOL, what a joke they are.
Good for being security guards at malls.
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Mudy, whenever I argue with a pakora gassing indian that we have such problems with training, equipment and general professionalism, everyone always argues against it. It's not so easy to ignore the evidence now, is it?
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Lack of mindset, discipline and honest towards job is main problem with Indians.
My personal experience and I encourage others to do. I took Self protection training in Singapore decades back and later took training in fire arm. Whole process taught me discipline and prevention. Prevention is always better; training comes handy during dire situation. Now my mindset is very different, I avoid being in a situation which requires me to use my training. Where I live, how I move, monitoring my surrounding is my habit. I don't take alcohol because I always want control on myself. I will duck and survive. If you are in US, check your local towns whether they have shadow your cop programme, where you can spend time with cop in patrol car. Best time is Friday or Saturday evening. These guys are disciplined.
Indians lack professionalism at all level, mindset is missing. If they concentrate on prevention, they never have to put themselves in line. It doesnât matter whether you are male or female. I am female, I encourage everyone to take professional training or provide training to your kids. Atleast they will learn discipline and professionalism.
Indian Armed forces is very disciplined and well trained because they are not under Indian politicians. Whole Babu class of India and Police, Investigation agencies are under Politicians and they are most unprofessional idiots.
It has been reported three times that Taj was cleared.
Yet every single time, its false. Why are the worthless Army and Police giving fake reports?
According to reports, four terrorists are holding at least eight hostages at the Chabad center in Mumbai.
from: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1041684.html
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Yet every single time, its false. Why are the worthless Army and Police giving fake reports?
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It is media who are jumping for rating, lack of professionalism.
I don't think state of Pakistan is involved but Dawood variety are involved.
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Yet every single time, its false. Why are the worthless Army and Police giving fake reports?
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It is media who are jumping for rating, lack of professionalism.
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Yet again, worthless scum.
I'm glad this attack happened in the way that it did. If it had been usual bomb attack, worthless cowardly Indian police would have regurgitated same old lines, some politicians would have vomited same old platitudes about maintaining calm, bomb disposal team would have magically found bombs and defused them, and they would as usual blame Pakis, hold candle light memorial, and in 2 months get back to watching Bollywood and eating pakoras until the next time another attack happened.
This time they got caught in total surprise Fidayeen attack with real entities who fire back. It totally exposed their cowardice and inefficiency. Shows how bad training is in Indian police and Army. As if we already didn't know that from the enormity of their rotund, central expanse, the pakora belly. Can't believe one injured terrorist is holding off NSG and MARCOS, supposedly their best troops.
This would have never been such a prolonged affair in US or Europe. National shame, everyone hang their heads down.
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