Attack in Mumbai

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It was Pig from Pakistan who was dropped by NSG <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Operation Cyclone over now.

Commentary is so horrible, its not cricket or Hockey or football match.

Goooooooooooooal

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Now burn them with pork fat.

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 29 2008, 08:21 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 29 2008, 08:21 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Now burn them with pork fat.[right][snapback]91058[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->No. No death or suffering of poor animal.
Cremate all the christoislamiterrorists involved. It will drive others of their brood wild.

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Deepak Chopra - Just Shut Up!

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4 Pig killed in Taj Hotel today, now they should not meet 72 houris.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/world/as...&pagewanted=all
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Armed Teams Sowed Chaos With Precision</b>
By KEITH BRADSHER
Published: November 28, 2008

MUMBAI, India — As Prasan Dhanur prepared his 13-foot boat on Wednesday evening for a hard night of fishing, he saw something strange.

A black inflatable lifeboat equipped with a brand new Yamaha outboard motor threaded its way among the small, wooden fishing boats at anchor and pulled up to the slum’s concrete pier.

Ten men, all apparently in their early 20s, jumped out. They stripped off orange windbreakers to reveal T-shirts and blue jeans. Then they began hoisting large, heavy backpacks out of the boat and onto their shoulders, each taking care to claim the pack assigned to him.

Mr. Dhanur flipped his boat light toward the men, and Kashinath Patil, a 72-year-old harbor official on duty nearby, asked the men what they were doing.

“I said: ‘Where are you going? What’s in your bags?’ ” Mr. Patil recalled. “They said: ‘We don’t want any attention. Don’t bother us.’ ”

Thus began a crucial phase of one of the deadliest terrorist assaults in Indian history, one that seemed from the start to be coordinated meticulously to cause maximum fear and chaos.

The details are still fragmentary; Indian officials are saying little publicly.<b> But from interviews with witnesses and survivors, it seems clear that the men on the boat were joining a larger terrorist force, which included some attackers who, unconfirmed local news reports say, had embedded themselves in Mumbai days before the attacks. Their synchronized assaults suggested a high level of training and preparation.</b>

Mr. Dhanur and Mr. Patil said in interviews that<b> they did not see the guns hidden in the backpacks</b> and did not call the police as they watched the 10 men walk into town on Wednesday, leaving their boat and windbreakers at the dock. Not long afterward, fanning out across South Mumbai, as other attackers spread out after landing in other boats, the men began unleashing deadly assaults everywhere they went.

At the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, the train station that appears to have been the first location hit, a fusillade of bullets left the floor of the main hall quickly littered with bodies and pools of blood. At the Leopold Cafe, a chic restaurant popular with Westerners and wealthy Indians and famous for sidewalk dining, a cluster of gunmen mowed down diners.

At the opulent Taj Mahal and Oberoi hotels, the assailants poured heavy fire into restaurant goers on the ground floors, then moved upstairs to round up guests as hostages. And at a range of other locations, from a movie theater to a hospital to a police station, the attackers opened fire remorselessly on anyone in their path, frequently throwing grenades as well.

With proximity to Pakistan and visibility as the hub of India’s financial sector, Mumbai has suffered many terrorist attacks over the years. But the killings this week, played out so publicly and prolonged over so many days, have shaken many as never before.

“In 51 years, I have never seen this kind of thing,” said Dev B. Gohil, a tailor and lifelong Mumbai resident. “We’re scared for ourselves and for our families.”

<b>One reason for the nervousness is that it seems likely that not nearly all the terrorists were caught or killed — and so far the whereabouts of the rest are a mystery.</b> At least eight were confirmed dead on Friday, although more might be found as soldiers and the police comb through the two hotels. One attacker has been captured and at least one was still fighting in the Taj Hotel early Saturday.

<b>Estimates of the number of attackers have ranged from 20 to 40, with the number depending to a considerable extent on the number of boats involved</b>. As security forces seek to reconstruct how the gunmen managed to inflict so much carnage so quickly, they have been turning their attention to how so many assailants managed to reach the heart of Mumbai undetected and with such a large collection of guns, ammunition and explosives.

Fishermen here said that the police removed and impounded the boat that came ashore here at the Fishermen’s Colony pier, where Mr. Dhanur lives. Various local news media have reported the impoundment of at least one — and as many as four — other boats at other nearby locations on the coast of South Mumbai, one of the city’s oldest neighborhoods.

The Times of India newspaper reported on Friday that the Coast Guard had found an Indian fishing trawler, the Kuber, that disappeared on Nov. 14. The Kuber may have been used as a so-called mother ship to transport inflatable rafts within range of South Mumbai, much as pirate mother ships from Somalia, across the Arabian Sea from Mumbai, have used smaller boats to hijack tankers and other vessels in recent weeks.

<b>The Kuber’s 30-year-old captain was found dead on the boat, and his four crew members were missing, The Times of India said.</b>

Not all of the terrorists may have entered Mumbai on the night of the attack. Local news media, citing anonymous law enforcement officials, are reporting that one captured terrorist has said during interrogation that <b>some members of his group had stayed in hotels for four days before the attacks to prepare for them and even to store ammunition in the rooms.</b>

When the terrorists landed in front of Mr. Dhanur’s boat, they were just three blocks straight down a narrow lane from Nariman House, a five-story building housing a Jewish center run by a young rabbi, Gavriel Holtzberg, and his wife, Rivka, who had moved from New York.

But the attack does not appear to have started there. According to India’s Home Ministry, the first shots were fired at the train station, and soon after that at the Leopold Cafe.

Popular with tourists, the cafe is about eight blocks from the dock where Mr. Dhanur was surprised by the arrival of the inflatable raft. It is just a block behind a top target for the terrorists: the luxurious Taj Hotel, Mumbai’s most famous place for maharajahs and wealthy businesspeople to stay.

A large red sign over the two double-width entrances to the Leopold Cafe still boasts that the restaurant has been in business “since 1871.” But the steel shutters of the Leopold were pulled down over the entrances on Friday afternoon, sealing the site of a deadly assault.

The attackers stood at the entrances and raked the diners with heavy fire from assault rifles. The power of the rounds is still visible from three shots. They struck the thick concrete columns on either side of an entrance and penetrated more than an inch deep, leaving red stains.

Through a gap at the top of the shutters, the darkened restaurant could still be seen. Half-eaten meals still sat on tables and napkins lay on tables and chairs, as though the diners had disappeared suddenly into thin air.

Few signs of the fallen remained visible on Friday afternoon, and no official tally of casualties from this attack has been released.

After the train station and the Leopold Cafe, at least some of the terrorists attacked and occupied three buildings from which the police would find it very difficult to dislodge them: the two hotels and Nariman House.

At the hotels, the attackers managed to hide in a maze of rooms, especially at the Taj, and so avoided easy capture. The smaller Oberoi proved more difficult for the assailants, and they were defeated there first, with the police leading out dozens of hostages at midday on Friday.

Nariman House took a full day on Friday for the army to capture, as the attackers holed themselves up in the middle floors of the building, where they could not easily be reached from the ground or from above. Only on Friday evening were the assailants finally overwhelmed.

The most complex building, the Taj Hotel, still had at least one gunman inside on Friday night and explosions were still audible, a sign of how difficult it is to clear determined attackers with hostages from an old building with many passageways.
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Is there any connection with Somalian pirates to draw attention of Indians away from their near shore?

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<b>PM too late, Advani gone</b>
RASHEED KIDWAI


New Delhi, Nov. 27: Manmohan Singh flew to Mumbai this evening only an hour after L.K. Advani, who had been insisting the two go together in a show of unity, had taken off.

The separate travel plans, after the leader of the Opposition's attempts to persuade the Prime Minister to present a united face in the terror-numbed city, led many in Delhi to believe that politics had got the better of solidarity.

Since early today, Advani was in a hurry to get to Mumbai with the Prime Minister to send a signal that the nation was united and determined to foil attempts to destabilise it.

Singh was reluctant, though, preferring to give the Vilasrao Deshmukh government more time to flush out terrorists and normalise the situation. VVIP movement could strain an already stretched administration, he believed.

Sources said Advani called the Prime Minister thrice and each time, the leader of the Opposition seemed eager to travel today. In his genial way, Singh tried to dissuade him, suggesting tomorrow was a better option.

However, by the time the PMO decided to shed its initial reluctance for a rare coming together of the ruling UPA and the Opposition, Advani had taken the plane out.

Soon after, around 5.30pm, the Prime Minister was off, too, with Sonia Gandhi, Sharad Pawar, Shivraj Patil and others.

<b>Congress leaders said the Prime Minister's early unwillingness to visit "ground zero" today had Sonia's blessings.</b> The Congress president, herself keen to visit Mumbai once it was normal, is said to have agreed with Singh's view that the state should be left to focus on the task at hand.

However, when she learnt about Advani's eagerness to go today, she encouraged Singh to present a united face. By then, though, the BJP leader had left.

Caught off guard, Sonia then decided the Prime Minister should fly out right away instead of letting Advani score brownie points in Mumbai ahead of polls in many states.

The Prime Minister's evening flight capped a day of huddles, including a cabinet meeting where <b>home minister Shivraj Patil left his colleagues dissatisfied with what they privately said was a "sketchy" briefing on the attacks. The minister apparently couldn't name the spots or give the exact numbers of terrorists involved.</b>

In the Congress, there is a growing sense of despondency that the Mumbai attack is going to cost them dearly in the Assembly elections now under way.<b> Congress leaders said Sonia and Singh should fix the responsibility for the strikes to shore up the party's Lok Sabha poll prospects. There are signs Patil's exit may be discussed next week when the UPA reviews the situation</b>.

As the meetings went on, senior ministers kept receiving frantic calls about the wellbeing of VIPs in the two Mumbai hotels where the terrorists were holed up.

Steel magnate and NRI Lakshmi Mittal called up petroleum minister Murli Deora from London to find out more about the attacks. Deora also received a call from Qatar authorities concerned about their consulate-general at the Taj hotel. The diplomat was later rescued.

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Update:

According to a couple of eyewitnesses, the actual toll of the blasts could be as high as 1000, though it is unconfirmed. It appears that 50 karmacharis and officials were killed in the station alone, and that their names have been put up.

The above figure is shocking, because it is very much plausible, considering the speed of the automatic rifles, and the dense crowds in CST and the population in the restaurants and hotels. Also, operations have been going on for nearly 3 days, and no one knows how many were killed in the hotels.

Our wretched rulers were upset for the first time ever after an attack and made slightly more noises, which strongly suggests that the above figure is within the realm of possibility.

The government-media figure of ~200 is definitely low, and I suspect that the toll could be much higher. Obviously this dastardly misinformation is spread to prevent "majority retaliation".

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^ Brahma's post above on death toll


2 comments from
http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008...anis-statement/

1. <b>Nishka November 27th, 2008 at 3:10 pm</b>

<b>Just read CNN IBN — they are floating rumors that it is a Hindu group. Their bosses in ISI and so on must have told them to do that ASAP</b>
(That's what christoterrorist media CNN IBN does: lie for jeebus.)

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mumbai attack: Deccan Mujahideen claims responsibility

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Published on Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:32, Updated on Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:18 in Nation section

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MUMBAI IN TERROR: Multiple terror attacks took place in Mumbai on Wednesday evening.

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Mumbai: The little-known Deccan Mujahideen group has claimed responsibility for the coordinated terror attacks in Mumbai on Wednesday evening. The identity and nature of the attack has left security agencies baffled.

In the camera shots of a suspected terrorist involved in the gruesome shootout ever to be undertaken by terrorists, the AK-47 wielding youth comes across as an average youngster.

Dressed in a black half T-shirt and jeans with a blue rucksack hung over his left shoulder and red sacred thread tied on his right wrist, one might just mistake him to be just another regular college going student.

What baffles the security agencies is the sacred thread tied on his wrist which many say could be a plot to show that the attack was undertaken by probably an extreme Hindu group.
(And thus opens the christian scheming against Hindus in this latest terrorist event.)

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2. <b>msr November 27th, 2008 at 2:29 pm</b>

Guys,

see the words used by TOI for the terrorists,
for Malegaon blasts media called them Hindu terrorists, Hindutva terrorists etc,
but for these attackers are called young boys, nothing like Jihadi terrorists or Muslims terrorists.

I think Indian media and Politicians like Lalu,Amar,Mulayam ,congress are biggest terrorists.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Mumbai_gunmen_were_young_boys/articleshow/3764492.cms


<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Nov 29 2008, 09:03 AM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Nov 29 2008, 09:03 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is there any connection with Somalian pirates to draw attention of Indians away from their near shore?[right][snapback]91064[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Some at http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008...anis-statement/
seemed to wonder about this as well. Don't know what conclusion, if any, they came to.

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SENSATIONAL ACCOUNT OF HOW THIS MAN, FIRST CAPTURED ON CAMERA BY MUMBAI MIRROR, IS NOW HELPING COPS TO CRACK THE TERROR PLOT
RAKESH PRAKASH, RAVIKIRAN DESHMUKH AND DANISH KHAN

His swaggering image as he walked around Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus dispensing death was captured by Mumbai Mirror photo editor Sebastian D' souza, and was the first glimpse of the terrorists who have held Mumbai hostage over the last 48 hours.

Now we can also tell you who this man is and how he has become the vital link for investigating agencies to crack the terror plot.

<b>His name is Azam Amir Kasav, he is 21 years old, speaks fluent English, hails from tehsil Gipalpura in Faridkot in Pakistan</b>, and is the only terrorist from this audacious operation to have been captured alive.

An ATS spokesperson confirmed that the man captured was indeed the one photographed by us.

On the night of Wednesday-Thursday Azam and his colleague opened fire at CST before creating havoc at Metro and then moving on to Girgaum Chowpatty in a stolen Skoda, and where they were intercepted by a team from the Gamdevi police station. Azam shot dead assistant police inspector Tukaram Umbale.
But in that encounter Azam's colleague was killed and he himself was injured in the hand. He pretended to be dead giving rise to the news that two terrorists had been killed. However as the 'bodies' were being taken to Nair Hospital, the accompanying cops figured that one of the men was breathing.

According to sources, the casualty ward of Nair hospital was evacuated and the Anti-Terror Squad moved in to interrogate him. Azam who was tight-lipped initially, <b>cracked upon seeing the mutilated body of his colleague and pleaded with the medical staff at Nair to save his life. "I do not want to die," he reportedly said. "Please put me on saline."</b>

Ammunition, a satellite phone and a layout plan of CST was recovered from him. According to sources the young terrorist has given the investigators vital leads including how the chief planner of the Mumbai terror plot had come to the city a month ago, took picture and filmed strategic locations and trained their group and instructed them to "<b>kill till the last breath." Every man was given six to seven magazines with fifty bullets each, eight hand grenades per terrorist with one AK-57, an automaticloading revolver and a supply of dry fruits.</b>

Azam reportedly disclosed that the group left Karachi in one boat and upon reaching Gujarat they hoisted a white flag on their boat and were intercepted by two officers of the coast guard near Porbandar and while they were being questioned one of the terrorists grappled with one of the officers slit his throat and threw the body in the boat. The other officer was told to help the group reach Mumbai. When they were four nautical miles away from Mumbai there were three speedboats waiting for them where the other coastguard officer was killed. All the ammo was then shifted into these three spedboats they reached Colaba jetty on Wednesday night and the ten men broke up into groups of two each. Four of these men went to the Taj Mahal hotel, two of them to the Trident hotel, two towards Nariman House at Colaba and two of which Azam was one moved to CST.
Azam, who was at Nair hospital for nearly four hours, was taken away by the intelligence agencies in the early hours of Thursday to an unknown location after the hospital authorities had removed the bullet from his hand and declared that his condition stable. <b>But it seems the police grilling was so intense that before he left the hospital for an undisclosed location he pleaded with the police and the medical staff to kill him. "Now, I don't want to live,"</b> he said.

Azam Amir Kasav, 21, from Faridkot Pakistan, is the only terrorist so far to have been captured alive <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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LOL good luck emailing MPs, as if they care about their constituents. They are good for eating pakoras, thats all.

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<!--QuoteBegin-brahma+Nov 29 2008, 12:29 AM-->QUOTE(brahma @ Nov 29 2008, 12:29 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Update:

According to a couple of eyewitnesses, the actual toll of the blasts could be as high as 1000, though it is unconfirmed. It appears that 50 karmacharis and officials were killed in the station alone, and that their names have been put up.
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Do you have any source for this? I too suspect death toll will reach at least 500. But Indian govt will try to shoosh that up.

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Paki pig were planing to blow Taj.
They killed 4 people in fishing trawler.

<b>NSG sanitising Taj Hotel</b>

<b>Taj op almost over, 3 terrorists killed: NSG chief</b>

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Azam Amir <b>Kasav</b>

Here is Hindu link
His last name is Hindu, I presume his family is victim of conversion. These Hindu converted to Islam were from weakest lot, that is why he want to live, not interested to die. He is Khatari

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<b>Nation Salute Gajendra Singh.</b>
<b>Nation Salute Sandeep Unikrishnan</b>

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<b>Six days ago they took rooms at Taj, stocked up</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->One of the two terrorists who had checked into the Taj Hotel on November 22 was Ajmal Amir, a resident of Faridkot, Multan. The other could have been shot dead in operations,” a senior IB officer told HT after the suspects’ debriefing. <b>“The two used false identities and checked into room number 630,”</b> he added.

<b>“The duo received several visitors between Saturday, November 22 and Wednesday, when the attacks began. These visitors carried bags probably filled with weapons and explosives.” The officer said Manjar, who was also held by police, told interrogators the group was in telephonic contact with mentors in Karachi throughout the attacks.    </b>   

The suspects allegedly revealed the plan to attack Mumbai was formulated by the LeT brass a year back. They also claimed the group of men “specialised in terror training at Muzaffarabad in PoK and naval training in Karachi” from Laskhar trainers, another interrogator said.

An IB alert issued last January had claimed that a team of LeT terror team had been assigned to strike in Mumbai from sea.
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Now where are those visitors? It means lot are still lose. It is not over yet.

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<b>There were bodies everywhere: Survivor</b>