Advices To BJP Party

ramana · 05-21-2009, 04:06 AM

From Radha Rajan's article its clear that forming coalitions was the right thing but the wrong thng was to allow the regional outfits to eat into BJP's share. But if you look at it the regionals are all decimated and if they want to survive in another form they have to ally and even merge with BJP. The big picture is the BJP lost quite few of its seats ~ 60 due to infighting and wrong candidates. It lost even more in multi-cornered contests. Here one needs a master fixer which Jaitley wasnt.

BTW I wouldnt put too much into her articles as they appear like rants of a disgruntled person who thinks BJP is a false vehicle when her goal was itself unattainable.

ramana · 05-21-2009, 04:10 AM

X-posting on BJP's dilemma from BRF by RajeshA

QUOTEMODE ON: Playing the Devil's advocate, here!

What is wrong with Hindu right?

o violence against Christians and Muslims (threat to minority rights and security)
o unsophisticated ham-handed opposition to Conversions (threat to right to practice and preach)
o pushing issues of 'correcting history' by treading on other people's toes like the Ram Mandir issue (aggressive revisionism)
o claim of monopoly on nationalism based on conformant worldview (exclusivism)
o overemphasizing cultural issues, thereby increasing social tensions, and diverting attention from other vital national issues (factor for instability)

MODE OFF

Until the 'Hindu Right' does not do enough work in remolding perceptions on the above, either

o through change in behavior,
o through political repositioning,
o through apologies for or at least acknowledgment of past actions,
o through media suaveness,

it would have a hard time getting the votes of the Hindu Center, regardless of the richness and relevance of Hindutva's message.

05-21-2009, 06:08 AM

QUOTEthrough apologies for or at least acknowledgment of past actions, 

Playing Devil's advocate here, so here goes...

Assuming the BJP represents Hindus, why should Hindus apologize for riots that occurred as a direct result of a mob of muslims setting fire to a train filled with women and children?

Has any muslim apologized for this act? Why is the fact that the muslims are the ones that started the riots lost in all of this soul searching?

05-21-2009, 06:15 AM

I have not adviced or found fault with the core values of BJP so far in BR or anywhere else. I am at last coming out of serious gloom.

My sincere observation about BJP:

Play the game with the rules that are laready set and do not try to change the rules before winning the game. Once the game is over then change all the rules that you want.

I do not take this as BJP has any mistakes or its leaders are any bad. It is just one thing pure and simple "electioneering" and not being able to play the game of elections as per the rules set.

05-21-2009, 06:18 AM

QUOTE(Capt M Kumar @ May 20 2009, 03:25 PM)Today, many die hard older BJP voters confess that their children do not seem inclined to vote for the party. There is also the very real problem of the minorities' distrust of the party, which makes the BJP a pariah with other parties keen to harness the large Muslim vote share. Unless the BJP attempts to project itself as an inclusive outfit with forward-thinking policies, it could regress further into an insular, narrow-minded party increasingly out of sync with the electorate of the twenty-first century.

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When did minorities voted for BJP? This is not their votebank and trying here is not going to get them any in the foreseeable future. BJP's loss was not even the youth. What is so much of a big deal if it lost Delhi. It did not lose Mumbai because of youth but beasue of MNS. There is too much of knee jerk reaction in the press and also its own supporters.

ravish · 05-22-2009, 09:09 AM

The performance of the various political parties in the just concluded General election has not been on the expected lines. While for the BJP and the Left the result is quite on the negative side, the gains of the Congress and its associates have been surprisingly good. In fact, at many States the Congress had not expected such positive results.
While analyzing the results it appears that the voters by and large have accepted that the previous UPA governmentâs performance has been somewhat acceptable. This is the main reason for the success of Congress Party. Now if we accept this position, it throws up several questions. The first of it is that the majority of Hindu voters have not shown any special preference for the BJP , and this cuts across the voting pattern of most of the States except Karnataka and Chattishgarh. In these two States also it may be the reflection of the performance of the respective BJP run State Governmentâs performance rather than the Hindu ideological cause. The pre poll noise that was made about forcible conversion to Christianity had no impact on the average voters, as is evident from the voting pattern in Orissa.

A few in the forum have expressed the view of EVM fraud and certain other factors. The question of EVM fraud on a national scale can be completely ruled out . If such a mass rigging on a national scale remains undetected by the present day electronic media and the Civil Society, the Government that can organize such a perfect fraud deserves to be voted to power for its efficiency. Therefore, such a large scale fraud can be easily ruled out. Such excuses have not even been put forward by the defeated candidates.

The BJP leadership has accepted the defeat most graciously and it is presently in the process of finding out the various factors that have been responsible for its poor performance. Some of their leaders have given vent to different reasons for this defeat , but all have by and large accepted that the rural population voted for the Congress right across the country as a result of the 100 work guarantee programme that was introduced by the UPA Government. In this corrupt ridden system, the full extent of the programme has not yet been felt and if UPA in its second innings do some improvement in the system, its performance in the next general election may further improve. It is also expected that in the next few years, the UPA will undertake many more rural economic development programmes as they have understood where the real voters can be influenced.
The Muslim votes, secularism etc are perhaps increasingly becoming minor factors and so is the cause of voting on religious lines. The revival of Hindu religious beliefs , if made a poll agenda is not going to take any party to a success in the future elections. So the Ram Mandir and other issues are no longer going to gather votes for the BJP. I feel the BJP itself has understood the changed mood of the electorate and will certainly change its strategy in the years to come.It has to provide forward looking modern developmental programme before the electorate to win any future general election in India.

Bodhi · 05-22-2009, 01:35 PM

The Hindu (mis)leadership

Sameer Bhagwat
22 May 2009

The most surprising aspect of the Hindutva discourse has been that the leaders of the movement have been chosen by its visceral enemies. Take a recent example: Narendra Modi for a period of time, post-Godhra, was accepted as the tallest Hindu leader, and for many this still endures notwithstanding his staggering temple demolition drive.

What was the basis for this impression in all sections of Hindu society? It was Modiâs alleged complicity in the riots against the Muslims; the belief that he had âblood on his hands.â This premise resulted in Modiâs elevation to Hindu hriday samrat (whether indeed a society should lionise such persons is another subject). Here it is sufficient to state that no majority community should be pushed into such a situation of abject powerlessness, for only then do such perversions creep in.

Of course, in public such reasoning would be denied. Who said he was complicit, it will be asked. The secular media had its own reasons for maligning him. Modi himself vehemently denied his alleged role, but because of the shrillness of the electronic media in implicating him as a mass murderer, reason was drowned and the only two camps were those who opposed Modi and those who supported him.

Those who supported him - large sections of Hindu society - were vehemently opposed to the anti-Modi liberals and bleeding heart intellectuals. Thus, ironically, Modi became a Hindu leader not on the basis of anything he himself had said or done, but more on the basis of what his detractors, and the detractors of Hindu society, said about him. He became a leader by default, which status he enjoys even now to some extent.

What were the glaring facts of the riots themselves?
1] Several scores of rioters were shot dead by the police.
2] Hindus killed in the riots by Muslim mobs exceeded 250 (totally belying all charges of a pogrom). Hindu society has not asked for any account from anybody for the murder of their own community members, least of all from Narendra Modi, till date.

The last 5 years have more than confirmed Narendra Modi to be only a secular leader (heading towards becoming secular) doing nothing at all about the sizeable Bangladeshi Muslim infiltrator population in Ahmedabad itself (no, not even in sound bytes). Yet the myth of Modi being a Hindu leader endures, though for most the veneer is wearing off.

Hindu society fell victim to a sustained disinformation campaign carried out by forces inimical to it, and in the process ended up creating a hero where absolutely none existed. Now it finds itself bruised as its aspirations are thwarted by the very persona in which it invested so much. And because it invested so much, it prolongs its miseries through self-deception, reading strategy where there is only chicanery.

Exactly the same thing happened before with L.K. Advani. The same secular media demonised him and, taking its cue from its sworn enemies - if you guys hate him so much there must be some good in him - Hindu society made him its leader, irrespective of what pronouncements Advani himself made. Even as Advani declared 6 December 1992 to be the saddest day in his life, Hindu society anointed him âSardar the Second.â

In power, when Advani called for governance-sans-ideology, Hindu society blamed Atal Bihari Vajpayee. The blinkers finally came off (not even after Kandahar) after BSF Jawans were murdered by Bangladeshi (Muslim) goons and their bodies sent back like animal carcasses. Advani as Home Minister pleaded helplessness as he was busy batting for Sheikh Hasina to win the elections in Bangladesh â a supposedly grand strategy, as Hasina was supposed to be pro-India; but she was already the PM when these monstrosities took place, and she lost the elections to boot!

The die-hard Advani fan finally bit the dust when Advani eulogised Jinnah. Whatever clarifications Advani may have offered, two points need to be borne out:
1] Where was there a need to say anything at all?
2] The most objectionable part was that the comment was one of open admiration - and this to a man directly responsible for bringing ruination to millions of Hindus... and from a man who was one such!!!

Those who have not figured out Advani by now will never do so; and since the learning curve of Hindus has quickened considerably, Modi is likely to be de-rated much quicker. Hindu society should do its own homework and not outsource it to the secular media and plump for the ones whom the secular media reserves its choicest abuses for.

To those who oppose the fundamental premise of this article, I ask only the following question: If Modi had been hauled over coals by the media for the 250+ HINDU lives lost in the Gujarat riots, or if the media had cornered Advani on the betrayal of Kar Sevaksâ sacrifices in pulling down Babri mosque by describing it as a saddest day, would they have become the Hindu leaders they became?

This system is not entirely without merit though. The key thing to see is whether the concerned person proudly owns up to the epithets awarded, or runs around trying to convince one and all that he means no harm, that he is, in fact, highly secular. Both Advani and Modi repeatedly affirm their secular credentials (guess whoâs the top cop in Gujarat now?) which by itself is no crime, but certainly disqualifies them for Hindu leadership.

In this context, Pramod Muthalik (not Varun Gandhi) seems to be the next candidate up for evaluation. The situation that exists now for Hindu society vis-a-vis itâs own leadership can be brought out by the following analogy:
In a city there exist: A middle class colony (read Hindus); a goondaland (read you know who); a secular media (read a secular media). The residents of the middle class area are constantly harassed and roughed up by the goons, causing considerable angst. A resident, say, Chote Lal Ji (CLJ) promises to do something. This raises the hackles of the secular media and they wait for a suitable opportunity.

One day, when CLJ is passing through goondaland, he is severely beaten up by the goondas. The secular media goes to town with gory details of how CLJ thrashed the goondas up, they even fabricate evidence as to how CLJ has plans for finishing off the goons altogether, and just for effect get some goons photographed, heavily bandaged and in hospital. They feel smugly satisfied at having thoroughly discredited CLJ.

But the script unfolds differently. Seeing the media reports, a resident, Ram Lal Ji (RLJ) thinks âat last, someone to fix the goondas, this is the man we need.â He finds that large sections of middle class residents echo these same sentiments. CLJâs own protestations to the contrary are brushed aside by his admirers as âstrategyâ. CLJ says repeatedly that the way out is to win the goondas through education and love, but the middle classes pay little heed. In the Mayoral elections that follow, CLJ triumphs, leaving the secular media aghast, causing them to raise the pitch and level still more serious charges against CLJ. The jubilant middle classes thinks its payback time and asks CLJ to deliver on the promise (not his own mind you, but what the secularists alleged he would do).

True to form, CLJ dilly dallies and dithers before imposing a stiff tax on the middle classes (MCâs) to enable the education and uplift of the goondas (partly also out of sheer terror as the beating he suffered is still fresh in his memory).

Finally the coin drops, and the MCâs bemoan the great betrayal. None of this would have happened if the MCâs had listened to what CLJ actually said i.e. (i) that he was roughed up by the goons and not the other way around; (ii) he had no intention of harming anybody and would do his best to elevate the goondas.

The MCs failed to measure known facts with the two versions (that of CLJ and that of secularists). If they had attempted that, they would have discovered the many injuries of CLJ, as also the speed of recovery of the goons and would have concluded CLJâs version to be more accurate and the secularistsâ version to be trumped up.

As it happened, the MCs were totally swayed by the polemics of the secularists. Thus Hindus have always had their leaders chosen for them by their opponents (albeit in a reverse psychology way).

One must not sub-contract ones principles to leaders who then negotiate on their behalf, but stick firmly and unrelentingly to the principles themselves and support and reward those who come forward to uphold these principles according to the efforts made and successes achieved.

Epilogue

Sometime on, Bhure Lal Ji (BLJ) is passing through goondaland. BLJ is assaulted severely by the goons. The secularists accuse BLJ of tormenting the innocents as also of having unleashed a reign of terror on goondaland, all the while shedding copious tears for goondalanders. Seeing the media reports, a resident, Ram Lal Ji, thinks âAt last someone to fix the goondas, this is the man we need!â

The author is an independent thinker and lives in Chennai

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QUOTE1. As it happened, the MCs were totally swayed by the polemics of the secularists. Thus Hindus have always had their leaders chosen for them by their opponents (albeit in a reverse psychology way).

2. One must not sub-contract ones principles to leaders who then negotiate on their behalf, but stick firmly and unrelentingly to the principles themselves and support and reward those who come forward to uphold these principles according to the efforts made and successes achieved.Yes. And yes.

So, who else is left to vote for? What are our alternatives.
Hindus at present can only choose between Scylla and Charybdis. Neither is where we want to go.

Just one bit of confusion, arising from an inconsistency in the write up.
QUOTE(Bodhi @ May 22 2009, 01:35 PM)The Hindu (mis)leadershipÂ Â Â Â

Sameer Bhagwat
22 May 2009

A resident, say, Chote Lal Ji (CLJ) promises to do something.

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The jubilant middle classes thinks its payback time and asks CLJ to deliver on the promise (not his own mind you, but what the secularists alleged he would do).

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ravish · 05-22-2009, 03:28 PM

Muppalla

The voting figures this time do not justify the poor performance of the BJP led front only due to Muslim votes going over to the Congress. There are a number of actors that have contributed to the creation of the present situation. The first amongst them is the infighting within the BJP. You may have noticed that after the election results were out, the party could not decide on a alternative leader to fill up the post of Leader of Opposition. To avert a free for all Shri Advani was forced to continue in his post. Do you think such examples will bring the party more votes in the future elections. Can the people of India trust such a political outfit for governing the nation of more than a million people for a full five years.
It is indeed a sad state of affairs. Now take the way BJP campaigned during the elections. It brought up issues that have absolutely no mass appeal or concern. One such example is the money in the Swiss Banks. This is not a new issue and has been heard of intermittently many times in the last 25 years. Therefore, it cannot agitate the minds of the voters on the eve of the general elections. Then from within the ranks of the BJP , a section started projecting Narendra Modi over the head of Shri Advani as the future Prime Minister of India. Such talks should not have taken place openly while the campaign is on. Thirdly, when Shri Varun Gandhi got into a controversy, the rest of the BJP leaders gave confusing statements, some welcoming the statements while others on the defensive and giving vague answers. It clearly indicated that they were in mood to antagonize the minority community. There is nothing wrong in their stand but the manner in which they reacted gave a strong indication of the confusion within the BJP on the whole issue and the stand that it wants to take.
The BJP thought that its image as the Party that will safeguard the interests of the Hindus will sail it through the elections. It is yet to re3alise that in the India of 2009 such dry items in the agenda cannot bring them to power. The voter wants forward looking agenda for the betterment of the masses. t will again miss the bus if it does not transform itself before the next general election.

05-22-2009, 04:28 PM

Orissa: BJP loses its support base in tribal areas to BJD

Express News Service

BHUBANESWAR: The Bharatiya Janata Party lost its core support base in the tribal areas to the Biju Janata Dal. The Rs 2-a-kg rice did the magic for the regional party.

The Saffron party had 32 members in the 13th Assembly and 11 of them were tribals.

The BJP could retain only one seat in the communally sensitive Kandhamal district. Karendra Majhi, a protege of slain Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, is the only successful MLA out of the 11.

The BJP had five MLAs from the tribal-dominated Mayurbhanj district having 10 Assembly seats. It came a cropper in the district. Former minister Chitanya Prasad Majhi was the only MLA from the district. The BJD won eight seats while the other two went to the Congress.

Similar is the situation in Keonjhar district. The party had two tribal MLAs from Keonjhar and Patna. It lost both the seats to the BJD.

In the undivided Koraput district, the BJP had two MLAs from Umerkote and Chitrakonda. Whle BJD won the Umerkote seat, Chitrakonda went to the Congress.

The BJP had three MLAs from Kalahandi including Dhaneswar Majhi. Though a tribal, he was elected from Keisinga, a general seat, Majhi hopped to the BJD just before the election as the seat was dissolved. The two other members from the district who lost the election were former minister Pradipta Naik (Bhawanipatna- SC) and Himansu Meher (Juangarh).

There were two tribal legislators from the undivided Samalpur district, one from Laikera and the other from Kuchinda. Laikera-ST constituency was abolished after delimitation. The BJP lost the Kuchinda seat.

In Sundargarh district, the BJP compensated the loss of the Sundargarh seat by winning the Bonai.

Kandhamal district is the only exception for the Saffron party where it gained one seat G.Udaygiri. BJP candidate Manoj Pradhan created a record by winning the seat from behind the bars.

Five BJP legislators, four of them tribals, left the party just before the election apprehending that they will not get renomination. While constituencies of three former MLAs were abolished after delimitation, the other two seats were dereserved.

The BJPâs loss is the BJDâs gain. Most of the seats the Saffron party lost went to its former ally.

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.a...FeEOBkuKw=&SEO=

05-22-2009, 04:52 PM

Election 2009 - The BJP got what it deserved - III 

Abandoning Kurukshetra before the war is won

The BJPâs loss in 2004 cast a pall of gloom over Hindu nationalists; for some of us even in 2004, the gloom came with intense anger. Five years later, the BJPâs loss in 2009 has caused more anger than gloom because five years is a long time for a determined person wielding state power to implement several agendas; and the BJP, criminally culpable for allowing the destructive ambitions of a few to subvert its raison dâetre, handed the Hindu nation back into the hands of the Italian Christian for another term of five years. The Congress, a British creature, may take Sonia Gandhi in its stride and look upon her as another Wedderburn or Hume, but for the Hindu nation, it was alien and oppressive colonial rule all over again. It is this knowledge that causes the despondency and the rage. There is an African-American adage which goes likes this: If you are cheated once, shame on them; if you are cheated again, shame on you.

Hindus, who are familiar only with Aurobindo the spiritualist, would be astonished by the content of a hitherto less known corpus of his political writings; Aurobindoâs writings from 1893 until 1908 are those of an angry Hindu nationalist. But it was an anger that produced his finest writings, a fiery, eternally inspirational nationalism that raises the mind from despondency and prepares it for war. Aurobindo was at war as much with the Indian National Congress of which he was a part, as he was with the colonial British government. He spared no one whom he considered serving the nation ill, organization or individuals â the Indian National Congress, Gopal Krishna Gokhale, Dadabhai Naoroji, Surendranath Banerjea - Aurobindo spared no one, not even Gandhi for whom he reserved his harshest criticism.

In 1903 Aurobindo was confronted by similar heartache and paralyzing gloom that we see descended on us today. But with characteristic anger, he denied himself and us the luxury of depression.

Many of us, utterly overcome by Tamas, the dark and heavy demon of inertia, are saying nowadays that it is impossible; that India is decayed, bloodless and lifeless, too weak ever to recover; that our race is doomed to extinction. It is a foolish and idle saying. No man or nation need be weak unless he chooses; no man or nation need perish unless he deliberately chooses extinction. (Bhawani Mandir, India can be Reborn, page 65. Bhawani Mandir sometimes referred to as a âtractâ and sometimes as âpamphletâ was written in 1903)

It was obvious to Aurobindo in 1903 that the direction in which these leaders were taking the INC was heading nowhere and spelt only doom for the Hindu nation and that is why, exasperated by the general wimpishness of the leaders of the INC, he roared in anger â Politics is the work of the kshatriya; by implication Aurobindo meant politics was not for the faint-hearted or the opportunist. He also implied that politics essentially is the ever-preparedness for war. The brilliance of Aurobindoâs political writings is in the brevity. The sutra, Politics is the work of the kshatriya, is pregnant with an entire treatise on rajadharma and rajanithi.

That which Aurobindo saw in 1903, Hedgewar saw in 1920. On the eve of the Nagpur Congress, Dr. Hedgewar with Dr. Moonje, realizing with great disquiet the direction in which Gandhi was leading the INC, pleaded with Aurobindo to return to active politics and assume Presidentship of the Nagpur Congress. But Aurobindo, who for inexplicable reasons chose to abandon his political Kurukshetra to seek refuge in the safe haven of the French colony of Pondicherry, refused to return and Gandhi led the freedom struggle towards vivisection.

In the aftermath of the Moplah massacre which Gandhi refused to denounce even mildly, Dr. Hedgewar understood that the Gandhi-led Indian National Congress was not merely un-Hindu but was becoming positively anti-Hindu with no intention of stopping or dealing with an ascendant jihadi Islam embodied in the Muslim League and the Khilafat Committee. Hedgewar was not weak and did not choose extinction for the Hindus or the Hindu nation; with visionary foresight, within five years of the Moplah jihad against the Hindus of the Malabar, he founded the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh.

Golwalkar, who inherited the mantle of leadership from Doctor Hedgewar, in the bloody aftermath of the vivisection of the Hindu nation by Islam, Britain, Gandhi and the Congress, picked Dr. Shyama Prasad Mukherjee from the Hindu Mahasabha to create the Bharatiya Jana Sangh in 1951. Thus the RSS and the Bharatiya Jana Sangh were created to protect Hindus and the Hindu nation in specific times of our recent history when Hindus and the Hindu nation suffered grievous wounds.

It bears mention that one of the central causes for the failure of the Cabinet Mission in 1946, which provoked Jinnah to call for Direct Action leading inexorably to vivisection was Gandhiâs insistence on including a Congress Muslim in the quota of five representatives given to the INC, in the Interim Government, a demand that incensed Jinnah. The Muslim League already had five League Muslims and Gandhiâs insistence on including a Congress Muslim, while it enraged the Muslim League, had it materialized, would have tilted the Interim Government in favour of the Muslims vis a vis the Hindus; this was typical Gandhian politics.

Just so did Murli Manohar Joshi react on television two days ago when asked why he thought the BJP failed so miserably at the hustings. Joshi, who prides himself on his scholarship, was so eager to throw his hat into the ring and succeed to the throne as secular leader of a secular party, that he failed to recall history to mind when he declared solemnly that the BJP leadership alone was to blame and the BJP lost because it had not fielded Muslims in significant numbers!

And just so did Arun Jaitley forget his partyâs history. The Times of India carried in February 2009, ahead of the elections, answers from different political parties to the question, âWho does your party representâ? Like Gandhi before him, who said the Congress was not a Hindu party and did not represent Hindu interests, Jaitley, deliberately choosing to forget the historical context in which the RSS and the Jana Sangh came into being answered, âBJP represents the common man, the underprivileged, the Dalit, minorities, agriculturists as well as industrialists. Despite the Congressâ efforts to brand BJP as a Hindu party and malign us as communal, more and more Muslims are coming to the party fold. Isnât it enough indication to prove that ours is truly a secular partyâ? The BJP had metamorphosed into a grotesque imitation of Gandhiâs Congress.

The Congress party, controlled by the iron fist of Sonia Gandhi was not described as a creature of colonial intent for nothing. The Sachar Committee, like the Minto-Morley âreformsâ aimed at empowering the Muslims on all fronts. Aurobindo then called it âencouraging Mahomeddan rowdyismâ. This was communal politics of the most brazen kind; to make sure that the Hindus got the message loud and clear, Manmohan Singh pronounced that Muslims had the first right to all resources in the country. Samuel Reddy had let loose the church to rampage across Andhra Pradesh while Karunanidhi and Jayalalithaa not only vied with each other luring Christians and Muslims to their fold, they lured them additionally by mounting frontal attacks against Hindu dharma. The church and Islam have carved Southern Tamil Nadu and the Tamil Nadu coast equally between them.

Under Italian Sonia Gandhi, the UPA government has facilitated the phenomenal rise of the church and Islam in every part of the country. Sixty years after independence from colonial rule, independent Hindu-majority India has not reversed a single loss suffered by the Hindu nation in 1947, nor avenged vivisection and everything that came along with it. All political parties, the BJP included, have courted the Abrahamic minorities because irrespective of their actual numbers or population percentage, they constitute a decisive vote-bank. This minority vote-bank could have been rendered ineffective only by Hinduising the election agenda. Speaking for the Abrahamic minorities was âsecularâ while speaking for Hindus was âcommunalâ.

Farooq Abdullah, the arch communalist, in whose body there is not a drop of secular blood, former Chief Minister of a state whose state constitution refuses to accept secularism even in principle, a state which with its peculiar and Islamised electoral arrangement will not allow Hindus or Buddhists to become Chief Minister, hailing from a state whose jihadis genocided and threw out all Hindus from the Kashmir Valley, without batting an eyelid, when asked to comment on the election results, declared deadpan â the people of India have voted for secularism. This Sunni Muslim in whose state a Hindu cannot become a Chief Minister openly expresses his fierce ambition to be the President of this Hindu-majority nation.

The countryâs political discourse defines secularism in practice as being uncompromisingly anti-Hindu, which makes Hindu interests and Abrahamic minority interests a zero sum game. It was so under Nehruvian secularism and it continues to remain so in Nehru-Gandhian colonial rule.

Elections are about capturing state power and state power is intended to implement and fulfill well-planned agendas. If politics were only state and not nation, then politics would be mere governance sans ideology. But in Hindu tradition of statecraft politics is not merely governance it is also paritraana or protection of the good and the weak, as also sustaining dharma; while vinaasa was destroying or ending by force anything that violated dharma or hindered the state in carrying out its responsibility. Hindu rajya was not just about laying roads and planting trees it was also meant to be used to ensure the primacy of dharma on this bhumi.

The BJPâs fall was imminent because it entered the political arena without a commitment to Hindu rajya to protect the Hindu rashtra. It captured power with the Hindu vote and then kicked the Hindus in their teeth. The BJP kicked the ladder that lifted it up. It was expected of the BJP to â

* Reclaim PoK
* Annex Bangladesh
* End separatism in J&K by de-legitimising the state constitution; Article 370 would have disappeared automatically
* Check the influx of Bangladeshi Muslims
* Stop all foreign funds for NGOs
* Halt the uncontrolled mushrooming of churches, prayer houses and madarasas
* Ban religious conversion altogether
* Bring in a central legislation to free all Hindu temples from government control
* Ban cow slaughter and protect cattle wealth

The BJP was expected to do all this step by measured step in the seven years that it remained in Delhi. But coalition politics de-Hinduised the BJP beyond recognition. The BJP did nothing for the Hindus who catapulted it to power when it ruled the country; in the opposition for four years between 2004 and 2009, it did even less. To make sure the BJP was not given the time to go back to its Hindu agenda, the UPA and the hands that pull the UPA strings, threw one red herring after another under the BJP nose. First they ran mindlessly behind the Volcker Report, then they ran behind the Mitrokhin Report, and then they ran behind the invisible Ram Setu.

The BJP was like several animal rights activists I know; they will not lift a finger to put a little crow back in its nest, nor feed the street dog or the cow at the gate; but they will form a human chain to stop killing of the distant whale or the seals in the Antarctic. Coalition politics and the comprehensive failure of in-house Hindu intellectuals to formulate and articulate the contours of Hindu Rajya made it just that much easier for the BJP to abandon the Ramjanmabhumi and gosamrakshana and take up Volcker and Mitrokhin. The distant cause called for no effort from the BJP except stall parliament and shout a few slogans.

The BJP had abandoned its Kurukshetra even before the war was won, leaving the foot-soldiers behind to fight the war. Now, as always, Hindus of this nation had been betrayed and let down only by their leaders. A large measure of the blame for the BJPâs fall has to be laid at the RSS door.

19th May, 2009
(To be continued)

ramana · (This post was last modified: 05-22-2009, 09:27 PM by ramana.)

So the advice is more extremism? Otherwise the persons will sulk and let the others get elected? This Radha Rajan seems to be a Panipat type of leader who will stab their own side to show their importance. How could BJP do all that she wants with the coalition they got elected with in 1999 after Kargil?

BTW the ref to Kurukshetra in the title is apt: To me it looks more like Shalya Sarathyam than Krishna Upadesa...

Do these folks sincerly want to help BJP or destroy it?

**acharya** · 05-22-2009, 10:04 PM

There are three things we need to undestand.

1. Strengthening of BJP in current format is next to impossible. If we keep a 15 year program then by that time there is nothing to salvage. (please refer to my elections 2009 excell)

IN 248 Seats out of 543 The chances of BJP/NDA winning in the next three general elections is nill. This is a 45% of the seats where BJP/NDA cannot have any influence. Totally 9 states out of 23 states BJP/NDA cannot have any representation this is 39% of the states. Now in 297 seats remaining to get 271 magic figure including NDA is next to impossible on any count. (AP 42, Delhi 7, JK 6, Kerala 20, NE states 1, TN 39, Union Territories 6, West Bengal 42, UP 75).

The SDF factor worked in AP very well in swinging 60 seats with thin majorities. The same thing worked in Three states where for the last 5 years a concecrated efforts are made resources pledged and spent to achieve 1% to 2% change in SDF. Every one is caught unaware including communists in this game as this is perpetuated in the communist states only.

The UPA got 60 Parliamentary seats extra and this did not cut in to NDA allies. Over all loss of BJP in this election is NDA allies gain and the actual seat tally is close to that of last time. Infact Karnataka was swept by BJP as the lok sabha elections were held just in months of state elections in which BJP swept. THe same is true with Rajastan where congress swept. This is anti incumbency as the state and central elections were held in months apart.

SDF and elections:

As communists rightly analysed and concluded that the new minority vote played a major role in their debacle.

IN AP in the last 5 years 1% of the total population is subjected to SDF (Spiritual Displacement). Their faith from one spiritual entity is shifted to another spiritual entity. 1 % of the voter population is around 57 Lakhs in AP alone. This is precisely the swing in the areas where it is assume UPA will loose. IN sixty seinsitive constituencies if we disperse 57 lakh voters it come to 100 000 votes per assembly segment. All these voters were issued voter cards and a systematic attempt is made to bring them to pools. It is a 5 year work. Actually there may be more assembly segments in which these are spread but we are taking a rough idea the details will come out in next three months.

In AP there is 60 seat swing.

The exception is UPA gaininig extra 60 seats. These seats came from Kerala, West Bengal, UP. Pecisely from Kerala 13, Bengal 21, UP 21. AP 7 (last time it was 25 this time with vote count decreasing they got 32) and TN 21 (we are taking the bulk shift minor variations are always considered soon). The other vote banks are same. This extra vote is due to SDF as the communists analysed.

THe same thing is 2% swing in national elections with the efforts being concnetrated for SDF in Kerala, WB and poorest regions of UP. 2% swing in parliament will give any where 150000 - 200 000 vote advantage in parliamentary segment. As this efforts are concentrated in Coimmunist states and AP nothing seem unusual. As NDA is non existant in these states none got a wind of any thing till the end.

Even we failed to take this factor in to consideration in AP.

The same trends will appear with more SDF votes for next time.

Many want to strengthen the NDA but cannot. The only alternate is take the middle path and start constructive activism on issues like somebody stated in dual party system states. For example Lok satta in AP was able to muster 2% vote purely oin the issue of Dynasty rule and corruption. Most of the villagers too turned to Lok Satta and one MLA got elected. Same in TN with vijayakant getting 8% of votes. This is precisely we discussed when I was there. Though many donot agree it is the only way. He is right on dot that people of India not only believe that UPA NDA both are unfit to protect them against terrorism but also know that they are unfit to protect the economy also.

If NDA leadership is not in sink with reality so too UPA. But UPA has a powerful lobby gunning for more SDF votes as long as that goes they will definately come to power. Even if they get less votes in percentage thant NDA they will form the government.

ramana · 05-22-2009, 10:04 PM

looks liek there is a good paln here.

X-posted....from BRF by aryanK...

BJP: 10 year plan for Rejuvenation

QUOTEI had a heartbreaking weekend, the second such time in 5 years - the last time was in May 2004 when the BJP got a shock defeat in the general elections. That time the feelings were of shock, disbelief and anger. This time it is more of disappointment and heartbreak. At the outset let me confess that I have been a BJP supporter since I can remember. My initiation began in the early 90's, during the Ram Janmabhoomi movement. I had just entered my teens and vividly remember a feeling of thrill and excitement on my initiation to political awareness. I have since grown into adulthood being a passionate BJP supporter. So that explains the heartbreak. As the disappointment of the May 16 results sink in, a myriad stream of thoughts are racing through my mind. And out of this churning came a plan for the reinvention and rejuvenation of the BJP.

The fundamental problem with BJP is that they don't have a credible presence in about 160 seats out of 543 seats of Lok Sabha. If you draw a line on India's map starting from Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and up to Weat Bengal, BJP is at best a fringe player. And in the two states of Orissa and UP where the BJP was a credible player they have dangerously lost ground. If you add up all these seats it comes upto a whopping 245 seats which is 45% of the Lok Sabha. BJP cannot hope to come to power at the center with a presence in just 55% of India. The party had a meteoric rise in the 90's under the twin leadership of Vajpayee & Advani and reached a peak of 180 seats in 1999. But after that it just hit a plateau. BJP became complacent and "outsourced" several key states to regional parties.

2009 marks the beginning of the end of coalition era in Indian politics. The dynasty is back with a bang in the Congress and they are taking back the space they vacated in the 90's. My reading is that for another 10 years it is going to be a Congress rule in Delhi. Unless the dynasty self destructs(like a Bofors scam), in the next Lok Sabha elections in 5 years the Congress will get a majority on it's own. If the BJP has to evolve as a credible alternative to the Congress, they will have to sincerely work to expand the party's presence in 45% of the country I mentioned. They have to get out of the NDA mode, the era of coalitions is over. BJP needs a new set of Vajpayee & Advani kind of leadership who will selflessly work to take the party to the next level. If they dont, the big loser will be the country. Congress and the dynasty will lord over India and we'll see the return of the arrogant Congress of 70's and 80's. Just as one big super power with no checks & balances is a bad thing for the world, so it will be for Indian polity.

So here is my action plan for the BJP. The BJP will have to take the bottom up approach to New Delhi, which is to have strong leaders and presence in the states which will automatically add up to a strong claim to the Delhi throne. Today the BJP has a Narendra Modi, a Shivraj Chouhan, a Raman Singh, a Yedyurappa. The party needs 25 such names in every state of India. So for the next 5 years the state wise plan should be as follows:

1. Maharashtra - MNS is seriously hurting the BJP-Sena. Put all effort possible to bring about a rapprochement between the warring Thackeray cousins. If the party can pull off a BJP-Sena-MNS alliance for the October assembly elections they will pocket Maharashtra.

2. Haryana - Dump the Chautalas, they are a discredited party. Go it alone for the assembly elections(or tie up with a credible local party as a junior partner). The target should be to at least be a strong opposition party in the assembly and not give the Congress a walkover.

3. Bihar - Nitish is going to dump the BJP and do a Naveen Patnaick. The question is not if but when he will do it. So prepare for it and don't be caught napping like in Orissa. Aggressively retain BJP's turf and support, and in the next assembly elections when Nitish comes back to power(either on his own or with Congress support) the target should be to be the main opposition party and not cede the opposition space to Lalu.

4. Assam - There is good chance that the BJP-AGP combine can come to power in the next assembly elections. Work towards making the alliance work on the ground.

5. Kerala & Bengal - The communists are a discredit force in both these states. There is a golden opportunity to make both these states a tri-polar polity. The BJP has reasonable cadre base in both states. Work aggressively to expand the party base and groom a young leadership. Convince the people that the BJP can be a viable replacement for the communists in both the states. When the red forts crumble the BJP has to grab significant pieces of the cookie and not let Congress take it all.

6. Orissa - Naveen Patnaik is too popular to take on now. Bide your time and wait for him to slip or for anti-incumbency to set in. Meanwhile work to occupy Congress's space as the main opposition. Work towards making Orissa a tri-polar polity. When the next elections take place BJP should be in a position to win atleast 5 Lok Sabha seats on it's own.

7. Andhra Pradesh - Work to occupy the spaces of TRS and PRP, both these parties don't have credibility post elections. The BJP as a national party will have more credibility compared to these 2 parties. In the coastal region target the Kapu community for strength. Just as the BJP monopolized the Lingayath community in Karnataka they should go all out to woo the Kapu caste. Atleast get to a strength where for the next elections TDP will consider BJP as an equal partner to take on the Congress.

8. Tamil Nadu - A big opportunity will be opening up soon in TN with the inevitable fading of the grand old man Karunanidhi. There will be a bitter family war for succession. This will be a good opportunity to wean away a significant chunk of the DMK base. Smaller parties like the PMK & MDMK have been discredited. Try to co opt players like Vijaykanth into the BJP. Maybe even net Rajnikanth into BJP. The failure of Chiranjeevi in AP proves that filmstars on their own cannot win electoral success, but if they are part of a national party like the BJP they will have more credibility besides the resources of a national party. So strategy will be the same as in AP, build credible strength so that by the next elections Jayalalitha will consider BJP as an equal partner to take on the DMK-Congress alliance.

9. UP - This state is too big and complicated for any one person to tackle. BJP should make the bifurcation or trifurcation of UP as a big plank. Accordingly assign 2 or 3 leaders to specific geographical areas. The old leadership of the Ram Janmabhoomi movement era are past their due date. I would say, pick up Varun Gandhi for the western portion of UP and Yogi Adityanath for the poorvanchal portion. Both are young faces, have hindutva credentials and are charismatic. Short term target should be to emerge as the no. 2 in UP. Congress is for sure going to win the next assembly elections. Don't let Mayawati or Mulayam retain relevancy in UP, people are tired of them and they should be pushed to extinction.

10. Punjab, Karnataka, Chattishgarh, Jharkand, MP, Gujarat, Rajasthan, Delhi, HP, Uttaranchal - These states are already bipolar states between Congress & BJP. And BJP is doing well in many of these states. There may be anti-incumbency swings every 5 years which is normal. Concentrate on avoiding internal sabotage in these states. That should be relatively easy.

This states-first, bottom-up approach is the only way for the BJP. They don't have a dynasty like the Congress which can deliver power. It's a long walk, but BJP must remember how long a battle Vajpayee & Advani had to wage to finally taste power in 1998. It took them almost 50 years to build the BJP from scratch. Compared to that this will be a far shorter walk. I'm sure that if the BJP works on this plan they will be in a position to form their own govt with majority in Delhi in 10 years.

Tail piece
This is regarding the BJP approach to minorities(Muslims & Christians). I feel it is time for the BJP to offer a New Deal to the minorities of India which is distinct from the vote-bank approach of Congress and other "secular" parties. This should be a honest and positive agenda.

Agenda for the Muslims
1. Ram temple - Open up a honest, sincere and sustained dialouge with the muslim community for a negotiated settlement of the issue. Merely mentioning it the BJP manifesto every 5 years is not sufficient. The BJP can facilitate meetings between sober Hindu leaders (like Sri Ravishankar, Swami Agnivesh etc.) and sober elements of the Muslim community(President Kalam, Najma Heptullah, Javed Akhtar, Arif Mohammad Khan etc.). I'm sure there will be no quick solutions but this will definetly generate lot of goodwill for the BJP both among moderate muslims and middle-class hindus.

2. Uniform civil code - This issue is of no electoral benefit for the BJP. The non-muslims of India already have a progressive civil code and this is a non-issue for them. So I feel the BJP should initiate a dialogue again with moderate elements of the muslim community and encourage them to come up with a civil code which is progressive and gives justice to muslim women.

3. Article 370 - Again this is more of a foreign policy issue which has no resonance in most of India. The BJP should take the stand that as and when there is a final settlement of the Kashmir issue with Pakistan, article 370 can be scrapped.

This will remove the 3 main handles that the "secular" media and political parties use to beat the BJP. Apart from the above 3 issues the BJP should talk about education, family planning and women empowerment issues with the common muslims. Basically have a positive agenda for the muslims. In all this the BJP should draw a clear distinction from the vote-bank approach of the Congress.

Agenda for the Christians
I think there is only one main irritant with the Christian community and that is the issue of conversions. The BJP should follow the same approach as the Ram Temple issue and facilitate a dialogue between moderate Hindu and moderate Christian leaders. I'm sure a status-quo, mutual-respect, no forced-conversion solution can be found. Other than this issue the Indian Christian community is a model minority and the Muslims should look to them as a role model.

A re-jig of the BJP's approach to the minorities will have several benefits for the BJP.
1. Even if the minorities don't vote for the BJP, they will stop tactical bloc voting to damage the BJP.
2. Will make it easier for anti-congress leaders like Naveen Patnaik, Nitish Kumar, Chiranjeevi, Chandrababu Naidu etc. to do business with the BJP.
3. Most importantly, it will not drive away the educated, urban, middle-class Hindu voters who want a peaceful India which can move on the path to development and prosperity. The most alarming situation for the BJP is that this segment which was the main bed-rock of the BJP is turning to the Congress.
4. Will blunt the media propaganda against the BJP.

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Future Course of Action - A Blueprint

QUOTELeaders, Followers and Friends of BJP,

Here are 9 secrets for BJP to succeed in 16th Lok Sabha Elections whenever it is held.

1. Future Leadership -

Please handover the Presidency of BJP and also leadership of parliamentary party to Mr Arun Jaitley. In parliament, Sushma, Rajnath, Ananth Kumar can lead in Lok Sabha, Venkiah, Ravi Shankar Prasad should be able to lead in Rajya Sabha.

Arun Jaitley has it in him to lead the party. We all know how well his speeches were received in Friends of BJP sessions.
People in opposition would try to derail him by saying he is too urbane and not acceptable to rural india. Believe me, that is not true. Look at Manmohan Singh. Is he a farmer? or Rural? What is his political standing? Jaitley can win the elections from Amritsar. So just go ahead and let him take the plunge.

2. Media Management -

Please let only Sudeendhra Kulkarni, Mahesh Jethmalani, Nalin Kohli, Siddarth Nath Singh and Saroj Pandey be the spokespersons of BJP for English and Hindi Media. Only these people can take part in talk shows and other programs.
Do NOT LET ANYONE ELSE TALK TO THE MEDIA. For Press Conferences it can be done by Ravi Shanker Prasad. Lets not allow anybody else to face media for heavens sake.

3. State Governments -

Use the services of Narendra Modi, Yashwant Sinha and Arun Shourie as Advisor/Consultant to the BJP governments in different states. I think we all should understand that Indian National elections are only an aggregation of 25 state elections. Performance of State governments, Strong leader at state level and Party Unity at state level is key to success.

4. Winning back lost small states -

We need to win back Delhi, Rajasthan, Jharkhand and Goa.

5. Improving Margins in States Ruled by BJP and allies -

Need to improve margin of victory in BJP ruled states. Drastic action required in Uttaranchal, Strong action in Punjab,
MP and Gujarat.

6. Holding on to States Ruled By BJP and allies where saturation reached in terms of winnable seats -

Retain Karnataka on your own and Bihar in alliance with JDU, these are the prized pocessions alongwith Himachal and Chattisgarh.

7. Winning Big States -

UP and Maha are the only BIg states where BJP can win. You need to find a solution to MNS issue in Maha and Slog it out in UP. MNS+SS+BJP required for Maha. For UP, try to portray voting SP, BSP and Cong is voting UPA.So the only alternative is NDA in the form of BJP+RLD.

8. Making Presence felt and creating Buffer for unexpected losses elsewhere -

Orissa, Assam and Haryana are the states with potential for improvement. Work hard in those 3. That will give BJP the buffer in case they do badly on one of their strongholds.

9. Start Breaking into Big States where BJP is not present -

AP, TN, WB and Kerala are really distant dream for now. The national strategy of BJP/NDA can never depend upon these states. Just hope that when you will be close to majority from elsewhere, someone from here can chip in and help.

The best the BJP can try for is alliance with LokSatta Party in AP and even get Vijayshanthi and other Telengana enthusiasts from TRS over to BJP. Tell them a regional outfit cannot achieve their dream.

In TN, how about asking Rajinikant to start a Regional Party with a National Outlook, say revive Rajaji's Swatantra Party with a more Tamil flavor. Then he can support BJP during next LS elections.

Looking forward to some action on these,



Don't lose Hope. The Sun will rise again.

QUOTEOn 16th may, I got upset after knowing trend of Election results.I did not open news channels after that .On 18th I opened your website & read your message ââ¦We accept , Journey continues â It gives me some moral boost fo face the BJPâs failure news. I wish BJP must be back on front , I am suggesting some points for yourâs & BJPâs review .May this will help to get BJP back on front.

1.Social work Cell

Party should start social work at each town/District/State/National level through its offices.This will help us party to associate with people with a positive note. All social work should be monitor & recorded at central place IT Server .This should be headed by some senior Party leader for 3 Years tenure. 

It must be make mandatory to work 1 Yrs in social cell to get eligible for party Ticket for MLA & MP. Those aspirantâs social work must be evaluated before giving party tickets .Dummy membership must not be allowed .Performance of social cell must be reviewed on quarterly basis with respect to its targets.

Party should identify & associate people from all segments of society who wish to honanary social work (Full/Part time ) like

a. Education/ Tuition to poor & Lower middle class childrens ,
b. Regular Medical consultation to poorâs ( Identify Alopathic /Ayurvedic/Homeopathic/
Naturalopathy doctors willing to voluntary part time ) ,
c. Career counselingâs to Youth passed 10th standard ( Identify/Develop career counselors who
can work voluntary for party ),
d. Career training programs /Camps like Tailoring , Hair cutting ,Mechanics etc ( Identify
potential trainers / Businessmenâs willing voluntary to work for poor male/Females youths )
e. Identify potential persons who can sponsored expanses of education ( ITI ,
Journalism, Sports, Engineering, medical ) of poor & lower middle class students under the
banner of BJP .
f. Counseling cell who can educate & help people ( Specially Poor/Lower middle class ) to get
benefits of different schemes of Govt agencies & NGOâs .
g. Sport cell who can motivates & Monitor youth for participation in sports activities regularly at
Different levels i.e Village, District, State ,National & International .
h. Party must keep budget for 5 % seats in States & LS .So that eligible poor and middle class
candidates can contest elections . All expances must be bear by Party only .This activity will
help Party to get good candidates as well as party base across the Middle & lower class
segments .

2. Youth Participation

I feel impression of BJP among youth is as a Party having people âwho beats Couples on Velantine Dayâ â who demonstrate against Beauty contestsâ, â who oppose meeting of young boys & girlsââ who opposes western dance & western educationâ. However some of the occasion Higher leadership tried to break this image but I donât see much effect on youth . I suggest party must try to reverse this image because todayâs youth is more open ,intelligent believing to match the world class standards alongwith enjoying the life . India is a place of festivals , People like festivals adopt different festive cultures in our life example of it Gujrati Garba & valentine day . Party must work to realize them party is very near to them , believe in openness , advance to match current challenges alongwith festive culture . Party must evaluate BJP popularity among youths regularly across the country .

BJP must ensure 10% position in party organization post , civic , legislation & parliament must be filled below age of 35 years youth ( male & Female ) similarly 10% must be filled by the youth of 50 yrs old .Â <!--emo& Tongue

--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /> This would work as magic to increase BJP presence across the country .

3.Higer Polling participations

It is believed that low polling percentage reduces chances of party .Some of the segments like Muslims , those polling turn out are high gives votes against BJP . So Party must think to increase polling turn out so that Anti BJP votes can be compensated. I Excatly donât know effective methods to increase polling turnout But It is very much essential for Partyâs WIN . BJP must seriously think about it . One reason people do not believe their vote power or significance but I think there must be more other reasons i.e Movement of people for their business or service , voter list updation etc . BJP must take this issue on various forums to consider voting on movable locations , Voting through post as well as voting +_ 3 days of schedule voting Day .Party must set own targets of Polling percentage ,must work to cross it each polling booth .BJP future depends on Higher voting percentage .

4. Increase BJP presence in other states

Party having No presence in Big states like West Bengal , Andra Pradesh , Tamilnadu & Utter Pradesh .If party do not work aggressively to get good quantum of seats in these states ,There is again chances to remain away from Power at center .Anti incumbency in BJP stronghold area will Big blow for BJP .There must be Do& Die for BJP to win these states .

5. Creating Own Vote Bank

It is very clear that Muslims do not vote for BJP . Two things happens ,one as possible as Muslim cast their vote to defeat BJP , second other political party create Untouchable environment to get Muslim votes . Hence BJP must think equal amount of vote bank for BJP very silently. Whenever BJP talk about terrorism , whenever terrorist strikes muslim comes under fear & cast their vote against BJP . As I know before Mumbai attack , BJP seems stronger as BJP was on winning track .After Mumbai attack all muslims cast their vote against BJP in Delhi & Rajasthan . Similar trend keep continue in LS polls 2009 . Earlier muslim votes divided in Anti BJP parties but now It goes to Congress . whenever BJP talks about security .terrorism all muslim votes polarize against BJP but in same ratio there is no polarization of Hindu votes in favour of BJP . BJP must silently work on these issues & make its strategies towards Majority .

Best of luck for the next battle 

http://www.lkadvani.in/forum/viewtopic.p...t=5657&p=0

05-22-2009, 10:24 PM

QUOTEToday the BJP has a Narendra Modi, a Shivraj Chouhan, a Raman Singh, a Yedyurappa.
Varun has to be groomed for future if it's to be a battle of cousins holding Gandhi name.

**acharya** · 05-22-2009, 10:29 PM

Advani's follies
Anti-Advani View
L K Advani: History to Oblivion Sandhya Jain - Vijayvaani
16 May 2009 was a sad denouement for the BJP and its leader, Lal Kishan Advani, who metamorphosed from a possible prime minister to a person who could not bear to remain one moment in the glare of public discomfort. He departed in a grand sulk, refusing to face the party and the electorate of the nation he had hoped to lead till a few hours ago, owning no responsibility for the vacuous electoral strategy he crafted, which resulted in this finalÃ©.

Mr. Advaniâs grief is understandable, but how could discerning Hindus vote for BJP given its utter disinterest in the Hindu people? Is Advani even concerned that Hindus will now face the depredations of a minority-pandering Sonia Gandhi?

This article seeks to throw light on some aspects of the Advani leadership that no one was willing to recognise through his long stewardship of the party, with results that are there for all to see. It is an attempt to detect what went wrong with Hindu societyâs most powerful upsurge â the Ram Janmabhoomi Movement â since the Cow Protection Movement in the late nineteenth century.

Alternate View
BharatRight Opinion
The article written by fire-brand writer has criticised Advani for many of his so-called anti-Hindu/anti-India actions. We condemn such irresponsible criticism for a person, to whom BJP owes most its rise in Indian politics. The author and her ilk do not understand that the 'Hindu vote' she talks about does not exist. If BJP fights the next election on pure, undiluted, far-right Hindu nationalism, you can be rest assured of not crossing 80 LS seats. This is for the simple fact, as unpalatable as it may be, that vast overwhelming majority of Hindus do not vote as Hindus. They vote as their castes, they vote as their linguistic group. Many far-right activists give an example of Gujarat. They forget that Mr Modi has earned the support of his state for his 'Gujarati gaurav' not for 'Hindu gaurav'. If Mr. Modi had used the latter term, he would have lost the elections, because Hindus are too secular to vote as Hindus.

BJP has done well ONLY in those states where they provided good governance and fought unitedly. Invocation of Hindu pride did not give any additional benefit in UP and Orissa. Varun Gandhi may have won his seat handsomely, but, definitely contributed to BJP's loss in urban seats all over the country.

India needs BJP to weed out all extremists from the organisation and stress on governance, honesty & security. BJP needs to be right of centre, Indian - not Hindu - nationalist party. Allies such as Shiv Sena must be jettisoned as they fail on all the 3 parameters listed above.

Mr. Vajpayee and Mr. Advani have tried their best in last few decades to achieve that goal, but, constant pull to the right by shrill Hinduvadis has only hurt the cause of nationalism in this country.

**acharya** · (This post was last modified: 05-22-2009, 10:38 PM by acharya.)

What should the BJP do immediately? - Swapan Dasgupta

* Recognise the magnitude of defeat and not live in denial (as happened in 2004).
* There has to be some visible demonstration of the fact that the party has responded to the message. Advani was right to step down and the Parliamentary Board was wrong to reject it. There is still a very important role for Advani but his position is that of a mentor.
* There has to be a revamp of most state parties. Young, dynamic MLAs and MPs must be given organisational responsibilities.
* The RSS-non-RSS divide in the party must be bridged. Those who never attended shakhas can't be treated as second-class members.
* The BJP must focus on the policy debates in the coming two years. Interventions in Parliament must be given due importance. The Leaders of Opposition in both Houses must be chosen accordingly.
* The party needs to project a modern, cosmopolitan face as national president to woo back the middle classes. What is needed is a picture of wholesome sobriety. The sooner this is done the better.
* A culture of frankness and debate has to return to the party. The miscalculations resulting from telling the leadership what it wanted to hear were colossal.
* Modi has to add the OBC tag to his appeal. His pronouncements must become more measured. He has to work on his national acceptability.
* Stringent norms of fund collection should be set. The private war chests have caused havoc to the functioning of the party.

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Lok Sabha Elections
Election Analysis By BharatRight.com
There are many articles appearing in newspapers today, crediting Congress victory to reasons such as:

* Votersâ yearning for stability
* Voters' preference for progress (as Leftists lost heavily)
* Charisma of Gandhi family
* Rural prosperity and pro-poor policy
* Voter's rejection of BJP's communalism
* Pan-Indian national outlook by voters

Our detailed analysis suggests otherwise. This was clearly an election, which was a collection of individual state results. Admittedly, there was some undercurrent of support to Congress due to pro-poor policies. But, mainly Congress won in many states on parochial issues such as Muslim commualism, casteism etc. Each state voted based on local issues. Please click here for detailed analysis by each state.

Our detailed analysis suggests otherwise. This was clearly an election, which was a collection of individual state results. Each state voted based on local issues. Admittedly, there was some undercurrent of support to Congress due to pro-poor policies. But, mainly Congress won in many states on parochial issues such as Muslim commualism, casteism etc. Let us take each major state:

1. Uttar Pradesh â Congress did not perform better due to Rahul Gandhiâs charisma. As per exit polls, 6% Muslim voters switched from SP to Congress, in seats where Congress was more likely to win, instead of blindly voting for SP. Of course, farm loan waiver was a big issue too.

2. West Bengal â Congress/Trinamul has won all the seats on the Bangladesh border. This clearly suggests that Muslims deserted Leftists due to Singur/Nano controversy which primarily impacted local Muslims! So this is a pro-minority voting by illegal immigrants against development!

3. Bihar â In the neighbouring state, good performance by JD(U) was rewarded by voters.

4. Maharashtra â UPA won 29 seats in this state, mainly because of Raj Thackareyâs MNS, which won enough votes in 8-10 seats, to cause losses to BJP/SS. Without the UPA-sponsored MNS campaign, NDA would have won 29 seats.

5. Orissa â a vote for good governance by Biju Patnaik.

6. Punjab â even stevens considering anti-incumbency against Akalis.

7. Gujarat, MP, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, HP â BJP performed very well. They may not have swept elections, but won a decent majority in each state.

8. Rajasthan, Delhi, Haryana, Uttarakhand, Assam â These are the only states that Congress can claim to have won due to good performance. Of these, Rajasthan is a state that has traditionally flip-flopped every 5 years for Congress and against its opponents (old Janata party and now BJP). BJP swept 2004, Congress is merely returning the favour this year.

9. Karnataka â BJP turned in great performance.

10. Andhra Pradesh â If Chiranjivi factor had not been present, TDP/TRS would have unseated Congress. Another spoiler like Thackarey.

11. Tamil Nadu â Sri Lanka issue was the main driver why DMK managed to win, in a traditionally flip-flop state. Jayalalitha tried her best, but, Tamil sub-nationalism is a strong undercurrent.

12. Kerala â This is a state that has flip-flopped each and every election since 70s, and this one is just continuation of the trend. Congress did not have to do much to win.

We, therefore, believe that Congress has managed this election better, with the horse for each course. BJP, on the other hand, did not get right allies and could not neutralise spoilers. There is no strong national mandate in favor of Congress on economic, social or security issues.

05-22-2009, 10:58 PM

moderate hindu leaders like swami agnivesh and ravishankar.. looks like someone really wants to make a congress out of BJP. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' />

05-23-2009, 06:25 AM

Few things that BJP has to think:
1) Have core competencies - ideologies.
2) All non-core competencies to be outsourced - give it to regional and affiliated parties.
3) Ensure core competencies are not easily duplicated and copied by competitors - Congress hijacking.
4) Timing, peak at the right time - in Assembly elections and next General elections.

Bharatvarsh · (This post was last modified: 05-23-2009, 06:45 AM by Bharatvarsh.)

For a party supposedly concerned with national security, why don't they support the right to bear arms & make it easier to obtain weapons like in the US so that people can defend themselves during riots & out in the open terrorist attacks such as the ones in Mumbai?

In Jammu the people in VDC's are stuck with outdated gov't issued crap to face the terrorists AK 47's.

In chambal the almighty Indian gov't has decided to show mercy on mere commoners & started a scheme whereby they handed out guns to men who got snipped to do "population control" with some supposed "success". One would think that people who go to that length would be happy to vote for a party which supports their right to arm themselves without some stupid gov't scheme but does the BJP party leadership read the news regularly?

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