Naseshji,
What people are saying, whatever money was assigned for security, went directly to buy beach front prime land for Adm Bashir. I really wish all top officials should always get prime land. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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[quote name='Mudy' date='25 May 2011 - 08:00 PM' timestamp='1306333331' post='111693']
Naseshji,
What people are saying, whatever money was assigned for security, went directly to buy beach front prime land for Adm Bashir. I really wish all top officials should always get prime land. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />[/quote]
Mudy Ji :
The Pakistani Leaders ââ¬â of every Ilk ââ¬â are basically ââ¬ÅVillage Yokelsââ¬Â.
They were mainly from the Backward Strata of Society as in pre-partition times the economy was in the hands of the Hindus, Sikhs and Jains.
After the ââ¬ÅEthnic Cleansingââ¬Â in the wake of Partition they took over the Property & Businesses and became Rich over-night.
As such they have no sophistication in them and having learnt their ââ¬ÅTehzeebââ¬Â in the ââ¬ÅBai Jiââ¬â¢s Kothaââ¬Â, their new found riches have gone to their heads so that they have become money grabbers.
The Indian Leaders are as ââ¬â if not more ââ¬â corrupt as the Terroristanis, but, they have a comparatively more sophistication method of fulfilling their greed.
Finally the Indian Politician is a Politician for Life and as such he has may be Thirty may be more Years to satiate his greed. The Pakistani counterpart may have Five or Ten Years to do so and therefore grabs with ââ¬ÅDono Haathââ¬Â!
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[url="http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/25/us-thinks-anti-americanism-rife-in-ndu.html"] US thinks anti-Americanism rife in NDU[/url]
KARACHI : The US ambassador to Pakistan had expressed concern about the distance between Pakistan military officials and the Americans that had crept in following the discontinuation of the IMET (International Military Education and Training) programmes during the ââ¬Åsanction yearsââ¬Â and had recommended specifically targeting the generation that was lost during this period, internal US documents have revealed.
The comments are part of a confidential cable by then Ambassador Anne Patterson in 2008. A year earlier, Ms Patterson notes, she had given an address at the National Defence University and ââ¬Åreceived astonishingly naive and biased questions about America.ââ¬Â
The cable added that Ms Patterson had been working to dramatically increase IMET opportunities for officers and NCOs (Non-Commissioned officers). ââ¬ÅWe need, in particular, to target the ââ¬Ëlost generationââ¬â¢ of Pakistan military who missed IMET opportunities during the sanctions years,ââ¬Â Ms Patterson wrote. The reference to the ââ¬Ësanctions yearsââ¬â¢ appears to be to the period following the Pressler sanctions in October 1990 and further tightened after the 1998 nuclear tests.
ââ¬ÅThe elite of this crop of colonels and brigadiers are receiving biased NDU training with no chance to hear alternative views of the US. Given the bias of the instructors, we also believe it would be beneficial to initiate an exchange program for instructors,ââ¬Â the ambassador noted. Ms Patterson also considered the Pakistani military officials attending a senior course at the NDU to be ââ¬Ënaïveââ¬â¢ and biased against America.
The cable primarily documents the account of a US army officer, Col Michael Schleicher, who attended a course at NDU. The comments by Col Schleicher partly appear to corroborate the views expressed by Ms Patterson, but in many places also evince a great of naivety about Pakistani society and the security apparatus.
ââ¬ÅThe senior level instructors had misperceptions about US policies and culture and infused their lectures with these suspicions, while the students share these misconceptions with their superiors despite having children who attended universities in the US or London,ââ¬Â the cable recorded Col Schleicher as having shared with the embassyââ¬â¢s political officer
ââ¬ÅOne guest lecturer ââ¬â who is a Pakistani one-star general ââ¬â claimed the US National Security Agency actively trains correspondents for media organisations. Others thought the CIA was in charge of US media (and that MI-5 was in charge of the BBC). Some [participants] did not believe the US used female pilots overseas; they were convinced female pilots were restricted to flying within US borders.ââ¬Â
Students in the junior course, too, shared ââ¬Åmany of the biases prevalent in the Muslim world, including a belief the US invaded Iraq for its oil and that 9/11 was a staged ââ¬ËJewish conspiracy,ââ¬â¢Ã¢â¬Â according to Col Schleicher. In contrast to criticism of the US, students and instructors were adamant in their approval of all things Chinese, the cable adds.
The confidential cable also includes comments by Col Schleicher on the NDU curriculum, his course mates and instructors. The colonel was of the view that the scripts used by the directing staff and guest speakers to provide lectures were usually meticulously vetted in advance.
ââ¬ÅLecturers often ââ¬Ëteachââ¬â¢ their students information that is heavily biased against the United States,ââ¬Â the cable said and added that throughout the course only a handful of non-Pakistanis were invited to speak as guest lecturers.
Of his professional and personal interactions with the students, Col Schleicher noted: ââ¬ÅOf the 135 senior course students, only two openly drank alcohol.ââ¬Â The colonel added that he ââ¬Åbelieved the secular students felt peer pressure to appear more religious than they actually were.ââ¬Â
Commenting on the overall atmosphere of the NDU, Col Schleicher is quoted as saying, ââ¬ÅThe Pakistani military students appeared to come from wealthy families or from military families and were proud they received amenities, including private-quality schools and good health care, as an incentive to stay in the military. Officers at the brigadier rank touted their privileges, including a house, car, and a driver. The NDU students also obtained financial perks, such as a free trip for a pilgrimage that could be taken at the end of the classââ¬â¢ official travels.ââ¬Â
Cable referenced: WikiLeaks #153436
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Here goes $80 millions.
Quote:The former head of Pakistan's ISI, Hamid Gul, tells Channel 4 News that he is "100 per cent sure" a Taliban attack on a major naval air base in Karachi was an "American operation".
The Pakistani Taliban have claimed responsibility for a major assault on the headquarters of the naval air force in Karachi that killed at least thirteen officials and injured 14 others.
Eleven navy officers and two paramilitary rangers died in the attack at the PNS Mehran base in Karachi after 16 hours of intense fighting, involving 130 Pakistani commandos.
Interior Minister Rehman Malik said just six militants were believed to be involved in the attack, destroying or damaging two aircraft and laying siege to a main building in one of the most heavily-guarded bases in the unstable, nuclear-armed country.
There is absolutely no doubt that this was a US operation. Gen Hamid Gul, Former ISI Director
Eight major blasts were reported throughout the night as fighting intensified.
The Pakistani Taliban said the attack was to avenge al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden's killing on 23 May.
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[url="http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=16092"] Budget deficit to cross Rs1 trillion Updated 11 hours ago[/url]
Farrukh Saleem
ISLAMABAD : For the first time in the history of the Islamic Republic the [color="#FF0000"]difference between what the government spent over the past twelve months and what the government managed to collect will cross Rs1,000,000,000,000.[/color]
Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani in his first speech as prime minister had introduced a number of austerity measures: PM Secretariatââ¬â¢s budget will be cut by a wholesome 40 percent; all ministers will travel economy class; no minister will travel in a car of more than 1600 cc.
On 26 December 2009, PM Gilani had constituted a Special Committee to ââ¬Åprioritize and oversee the implementation process of the austerity measures.ââ¬Â On 21 December 2010, a meeting of the cabinet, presided by PM Gilani, approved ââ¬Åmajor austerity measures.ââ¬Â
Twelve months ago, our budget drafters had expected net revenue receipts of Rs1.37 trillion and current expenditures of Rs1.99 trillion-the budgetary deficit was set at Rs685 billion. Over the past twelve months, two things have happened : First, current expenditures at the Cabinet Division, the Prime Ministerââ¬â¢s Secretariat and the Household Allowances of the President have all gone through the roof. Second, there has been a massive shortfall in revenue receipts.
Twelve months ago, the Government of Pakistan (GOP) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) had agreed on a budget deficit target of around 4 percent of GDP. Over the past twelve months, the GOP has ended up spending in excess of Rs 1 trillion over and above its receipts and, as a consequence, the budget deficit may have crossed 7 percent of GDP.
[color="#FF0000"][size="5"]Figure fudging[/size] at Block Q of Pak Secretariat, according to some insiders, is now in full swing. If the wizards at the Ministry of Finance can somehow inflate the GDP the budget deficit as a percentage of the GDP will look much, much smaller than it really is.[/color] That will be the best of both worlds-we will have a swollen GDP, pumped-up per capita income and a half bearable budgetary deficit. Only if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
At Block Q midnight oil is once again being burnt. Budget 2011-2012 is scheduled to be announced in a weekââ¬â¢s time. Once again we will have inflated revenue receipts, a healthy developmental allocation, a constrained steam of expenses and an awfully alluring budgetary deficit. At Block Q the motto is: A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable but more useful than a life spent making real budgets.
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[url="http://www.geo.tv/5-26-2011/81787.htm"] Attackers were in contact with commander[/url]
KARACHI: The PNS Mehran attackers who stormed the naval air base Sunday night [color="#FF0000"]were in contact with their commander via high-tech wireless system,[/color] Geo News correspondent Afzal Nadeem Dogar reported.
An inquiry committee, headed by Rear Admiral Tehsinullah Khan, is investigating the terrorist attack. It includes representatives from Pakistan Air Force, police, naval intelligence and Rangers.
After reports of some inside help, scope of the probe has been widened and all personnel of Pakistan Navy deployed at the base have been included in the investigations.
The list of visitors who visited the base during past several days has also been sought to ascertain the details regarding the people they met, when and for how long.
A high-tech walkie-talkie set has been recovered from the bushes [color="#FF0000"]confirming the reports that the raiders were in contact with their commander.[/color]
The militants came loaded with sophisticated weaponry including rocket launchers hand grenades, Kalashnikovs etc. Raiders fired more than 1100 bullets and seven rockets. Investigators recovered 860 spent cases of Kalashnikovs, 165 of Triple two rifle, 29 of light machine gun, 12 hand grenades, rocket launcher and one suicide vest.
Body parts for DNA testing and finger print match have been sent to Islamabad.
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[url="http://www.thefridaytimes.com/27052011/page4.shtml"] Al Qaeda and Pakistan Army[/url]
Khaled Ahmed
It is more satisfying to fire a Hatf-10 tactical-nuclear missile to set the dovecots of Hindu India aflutter than to persuade a heavily Islamist army to fight Al Qaeda
Is Al Qaeda too strong for the Pakistan Army to fight? Since Al Qaeda is linked to the Taliban and Pakistanââ¬â¢s own jihadi militias and the vast madrassa network, would it be wise for the Pakistan Army to fight Al Qaeda without unleashing desertions within it and facing a civil war like situation and thus ignoring its mandated task of fighting India? More objectively, is the internal challenge more insurmountable than the external one against India and the US where its nuclear assets come into play effectively?
Opinion surveys say Pakistanis donââ¬â¢t think ill of Al Qaeda and the Taliban. The politicians say war against terrorism is not Pakistanââ¬â¢s war and fighting it will serve the strategic objectives of the US in the region without advancing Pakistanââ¬â¢s cause against India. Why should the army fight an enemy not recognised as such by Pakistanââ¬â¢s parliament which agrees completely with the view that CIA drones targeting Al Qaeda should be shot down and NATO supplies - going to Afghanistan for troops fighting Al Qaeda and Pakistan-based Taliban ââ¬â should be blocked to teach the US a lesson for killing Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad?
Fighting India is the primary task given to the Pakistan Army by Pakistani nationalism. It would be dereliction on the part of the Pakistani generals to deflect attention from this primary task to fighting elements who cannot be defeated and a clash with whom may actually cause defections and civil war. The mental grooves created by textbooks and years of indoctrination incline the army to fighting India. It is more satisfying to fire a Hatf-10 tactical-nuclear missile to set the dovecots of Hindu India aflutter than to persuade a heavily Islamist army to fight Al Qaeda. Anatol Lieven in his book Pakistan a Hard Country (Allen Lane 1011) describes this mind:
ââ¬ËA common definition of tragedy is that of a noble figure betrayed and destroyed by some inner flaw. The Pakistani military is in some ways an admirable institution, but it suffers from one tragic feature which has been with it from the beginning, which has defined its whole character and world view, which has done terrible damage to Pakistan and which could in some circumstances destroy Pakistan and its armed forces altogether. This is the militaryââ¬â¢s obsession with India in general, and Kashmir in particularââ¬Â¦both the militaryââ¬â¢s prestige and the personal experiences of its men have become especially focused on Kashmirââ¬â¢ (p. 185).
Another recent book edited by Pakistanââ¬â¢s most effective ambassador to the US Maleeha Lodhi - Pakistan beyond the ââ¬ËCrisis Stateââ¬â¢ (OUP 2011) ââ¬â has historian Ayesha Jalal depict the scene in Pakistan like this: ââ¬ËBesieged by enemies within and without, televisionââ¬â¢s spin-doctors, impelled by the stateââ¬â¢s intelligence agencies, attribute Pakistanââ¬â¢s multifaceted problems to the machinations of invisible external hands, as opposed to historically verifiable causes of internal decline and decay. If Indiaââ¬â¢s hegemonic designs are not hindering Pakistan at every step, America and Israel are believed to be hatching plots to break up the worldââ¬â¢s only Muslim nuclear state. Call it paranoia, denial or intellectual paralysis, but Pakistanââ¬â¢s deeply divided and traumatised people are groping for a magical formula to evade collective responsibility for their failure to gel as a nationââ¬â¢.
She refers to collective ââ¬Ëdenialââ¬â¢ which will not allow Pakistan to take on Al Qaeda: ââ¬ËForced to imbibe official truths, the vast majority of literate Pakistanis take comfort in ignorance, scepticism and, most disconcertingly, in a contagion of belief in conspiracy theories. The self-glorification of an imagined past matched by habits of national denial have assumed crisis proportions today when Pakistanââ¬â¢s existence is under far more serious threat from fellow Muslims than it was in 1947 from rival non-Muslim communitiesââ¬â¢ (p. 10).
Writing for Asia Times on Line in 2008, Syed Saleem Shahzad warned about the ââ¬Ëmouldingââ¬â¢ of the Pakistan Armyââ¬â¢s mind by Al Qaeda: ââ¬ËThe crux is, while America was playing its game, so too was Al Qaeda. Through terror attacks, Al Qaeda was able to disrupt the economy, and by targeting the security forces, Al Qaeda created splits and fear in the armed forces, to the extent that they thought twice about dancing to the USââ¬â¢s tune. Unlike Musharraf, when he wore two hats, of the president and of army chief, the new head of the military, professional soldier General Ashfaq Kayani, had to listen to the chatter of his men and the intelligence community at grand dinners. What he heard was disturbing. Soldiers from the North-West Frontier Province region were completely in favour of the Taliban, while those from the countryside of Punjab - the decisive majority in the armed forces - felt guilty about fighting the Taliban and reckoned it was the wrong warââ¬â¢.
The ââ¬Ëmouldingââ¬â¢ function goes back to the early years of Al Qaedaââ¬â¢s activity in Pakistan. As recorded in Gerald Posnerââ¬â¢s Why America Slept (Random House 2003) Abu Zubayda, the first big fish caught in Faisalabad in 2002, said: ââ¬ËOsama bin Laden had ââ¬Åpersonallyââ¬Â told him of a 1991 meeting at which Prince Turki of Saudi Arabia agreed to let bin Laden leave Saudi Arabia and to provide him with secret funds as long as Al Qaeda refrained from promoting jihad in the kingdom. The Pakistani contact, high-ranking air force officer Mushaf Ali Mir, entered the equation, Zubayda said, at a 1996 meeting in Pakistan also attended by Zubayda. Bin Laden struck a deal with Mir, then in the military but tied closely to Islamists in Pakistanââ¬â¢s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), to get protection, arms and supplies for Al Qaeda. Abu Zubayda told interrogators bin Laden said the arrangement was blessed by the Saudisââ¬â¢.
Four top functionaries involved in this secret deal died mysteriously in 2002, including Mushaf Ali Mir, ââ¬Ëby then Pakistanââ¬â¢s Air Marshal, who perished in a plane crash in clear weather over the unruly North-West Frontier province, along with his wife and closest confidantsââ¬â¢. The following year an assassination attempt was made on General Musharraf by a group of Air Force employees in Rawalpindi. After the mastermind was caught, the Air Force let him escape through a bathroom window! (He was caught later from Karachi.) One Air Force officer Khalid Khwaja, while an officer of the ISI, became Osamaââ¬â¢s pointman and got him to fund Nawaz Sharif.
If Osama can be in Abbottabad, the other Al Qaeda leaders could be in Karachi. There was a time Al Zawahiri used to be in Bajaur for R&R with his local wives; he could have more of them in other ââ¬Ësafeââ¬â¢ cities today, surrounded by local state functionaries who believe Al Qaeda is fighting for Islam, a belief much strengthened if dollars are forthcoming from the Arab coffers. In 2010, those caught in Karachi included:
1) Ameer Muawiya, an associate of Al Qaida leader Osama bin Laden who was in charge of foreign Al Qaeda militants operating in Pakistanââ¬â¢s tribal regions near Afghanistan. 2) Akhunzada Popalzai, also known as Mohammad Younis, a one-time Taliban shadow governor in Zabul province and former police chief in Kabul when the repressive regime ruled Afghanistan. 3) Hamza, who served as a former Afghan army commander in Helmand province, during the Taliban rule. 4) Abu Riyan al Zarqawi, also known as Abu Musa, and his local facilitator, Mufti Kifayatullah. Zarqawi was involved in dealing with Chechen and Tajik militants operating in Pakistanââ¬â¢s northwestern tribal belt on the border with Afghanistan.
Doctors and scientists in Pakistan tend to be men of faith rather than reason. When the nuclear scientists were given state awards for their 1998 nuclear tests, the TV captured them mostly sporting flowing beards. Reported by The Nation (24 July 2009) enrichment expert Sultan Bashir Mahmood opened his NGO Umma Tameer-e-Nau in Kabul soon after 9/11 with ââ¬Ëthe prime objective of reconstruction work in the war-ravaged Afghanistanââ¬â¢. Soon however instead of reconstruction he met Osama bin Laden who contributed financially to his NGO. Later when the FBI tried to give him a lie-detector test in Islamabad - on the basis of evidence found in his NGOââ¬â¢s Kabul office - he fainted every time and avoided taking it.
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Today Hilary had confirmed , Pakis had no idea about Osama. See this we called wonder land.
[quote name='Mudy' date='27 May 2011 - 08:30 PM' timestamp='1306507921' post='111720']
Today Hilary had confirmed , Pakis had no idea about Osama. See this we called wonder land.
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Mudy Ji :
This is only for Terroristani consumption. Just wait for Uncle Sam's next raid for OBL's successor!
Meantime back at the Ranch :
[url="http://www.geo.tv/5-27-2011/81838.htm"] PNS Mehran attack : four suspects arrested from Karachi[/url]
KARACHI : Secret agencies in Karachi have arrested four suspects allegedly involved in PNS Mehran Base attack, Geo News reported.
According to the sources, four suspects were arrested from Korangi area of the metropolis which were shifted to undisclosed location for interrogation.
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05-31-2011, 12:24 AM
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[url="http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/29/have-we-really-seen-the-enemy.html"] Have we really seen the enemy? Ardeshir Cowasjee[/url]
It has been brainwashed through its meagre educational system and through efficient propaganda into believing that, yes, India is an alien creature and ââ¬Ëtheââ¬â¢ enemy (to give this government its due it has made feeble attempts to right this). No one has told it that as early as 1948 prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru stated: ââ¬ÅIf today by any chance I were offered the reunion of India and Pakistan, I would decline it for obvious reasons. [size="5"][color="#FF0000"]I do not want to carry the burden of Pakistanââ¬â¢s great problems.[/color][/size] I have enough of my own.ââ¬Â
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Quote:PNS Mehran attack : four suspects arrested from Karachi
People are saying , this is for consumption only and some are busy settling political/religious scores.
05-31-2011, 01:16 AM
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[url="http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/23/used-lube-damaged-200-locos.html"] `Used lube damaged 200 locos[/url]
LAHORE, May 22 : An inquiry committee constituted by the National Assembly standing committee revealed in its report that some 200 Chinese locomotives were damaged by the use of substandard lubricant and overlooking the wear and tear, a private TV channel reported on Sunday.
According to the report, [color="#FF0000"]delinquency of the railway authorities[/color] caused loss worth billions of rupees to the department.
The report said air filters and fuel filters of the engines were not changed for two years and used lubricants were injected in engines last year when the oil supply to the railways was ceased.
Crankshafts of 17 engines broke due to the use of substandard lubricant. ââ¬ÅThe price of one crankshaft is $74,000 and total repair cost of all engines has been estimated around Rs6.3 billion,ââ¬Â the report said.
Railway`s former officers said the Chinese engines were deliberately made non-functional to ensure the import of the US engines.
The railway has borne a loss of Rs21 billion in a year due to the non-functioning of 200 engines.
Note : Pakistan Railways, I believe, has purchased only 69 Chinese Locomotives from China in 2001.
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First they are Made in China and on top maintained by clueless Pakis, these guys had no idea about OBL.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/ME27Df06.html
Quote:SLAMABAD - Al-Qaeda carried out the brazen attack on PNS Mehran naval air station in Karachi on May 22 after talks failed between the navy and al-Qaeda over the release of naval officials arrested on suspicion of al-Qaeda links, an Asia Times Online investigation reveals.
Pakistani security forces battled for 15 hours to clear the naval base after it had been stormed by a handful of well-armed militants.
At least 10 people were killed and two United States-made P3-C
Orion surveillance and anti-submarine aircraft worth US$36 million each were destroyed before some of the attackers escaped through a cordon of thousands of armed forces.
An official statement placed the number of militants at six, with four killed and two escaping. Unofficial sources, though, claim there were 10 militants with six getting free. Asia Times Online contacts confirm that the attackers were from Ilyas Kashmiri's 313 Brigade, the operational arm of al-Qaeda.
Three attacks on navy buses in which at least nine people were killed last month were warning shots for navy officials to accept al-Qaeda's demands over the detained suspects.
The May 2 killing in Pakistan of Osama bin Laden spurred al-Qaeda groups into developing a consensus for the attack in Karachi, in part as revenge for the death of their leader and also to deal a blow to Pakistan's surveillance capacity against the Indian navy.
The deeper underlying motive, though, was a reaction to massive internal crackdowns on al-Qaeda affiliates within the navy.
Volcano of militancy
Several weeks ago, naval intelligence traced an al-Qaeda cell operating inside several navy bases in Karachi, the country's largest city and key port.
"Islamic sentiments are common in the armed forces," a senior navy official told Asia Times Online on the condition of anonymity as he is not authorized to speak to the media.
"We never felt threatened by that. All armed forces around the world, whether American, British or Indian, take some inspiration from religion to motivate their cadre against the enemy. Pakistan came into existence on the two-nation theory that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations and therefore no one can separate Islam and Islamic sentiment from the armed forces of Pakistan," the official said.
"Nonetheless, we observed an uneasy grouping on different naval bases in Karachi. While nobody can obstruct armed forces personnel for rendering religious rituals or studying Islam, the grouping [we observed] was against the discipline of the armed forces. That was the beginning of an intelligence operation in the navy to check for unscrupulous activities."
The official explained the grouping was against the leadership of the armed forces and opposed to its nexus with the United States against Islamic militancy. When some messages were intercepted hinting at attacks on visiting American officials, intelligence had good reason to take action and after careful evaluation at least 10 people - mostly from the lower cadre - were arrested in a series of operations.
"That was the beginning of huge trouble," the official said.
Those arrested were held in a naval intelligence office behind the chief minister's residence in Karachi, but before proper interrogation could begin, the in-charge of the investigation received direct threats from militants who made it clear they knew where the men were being detained.
The detainees were promptly moved to a safer location, but the threats continued. Officials involved in the case believe the militants feared interrogation would lead to the arrest of more of their loyalists in the navy. The militants therefore made it clear that if those detained were not released, naval installations would be attacked.
It was clear the militants were receiving good inside information as they always knew where the suspects were being detained, indicating sizeable al-Qaeda infiltration within the navy's ranks. A senior-level naval conference was called at which an intelligence official insisted that the matter be handled with great care, otherwise the consequences could be disastrous. Everybody present agreed, and it was decided to open a line of communication with al-Qaeda.
Abdul Samad Mansoori, a former student union activist and now part of 313 brigade, who originally hailed from Karachi but now lives in the North Waziristan tribal area was approached and talks begun. Al-Qaeda demanded the immediate release of the officials without further interrogation. This was rejected.
The detainees were allowed to speak to their families and were well treated, but officials were desperate to interrogate them fully to get an idea of the strength of al-Qaeda's penetration. The militants were told that once interrogation was completed, the men would be discharged from the service and freed.
Al-Qaeda rejected these terms and expressed its displeasure with the attacks on the navy buses in April.
These incidents pointed to more than the one al-Qaeda cell intelligence had tracked in the navy. The fear now was that if the problem was not addressed, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) supply lines could face a new threat. NATO convoys are routinely attacked once they begin the journey from Karachi to Afghanistan; now they could be at risk in Karachi port. Americans who often visit naval facilities in the city would also be in danger.
Therefore, another crackdown was conducted and more people were arrested. Those seized had different ethnic backgrounds. One naval commando came from South Waziristan's Mehsud tribe and was believed to have received direct instructions from Hakeemullah Mehsud, the chief of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (Pakistan Taliban). Others were from Punjab province and Karachi, the capital of Sindh province.
After Bin Laden was killed by American Navy Seals in Abbottabad, 60 kilometers north of Islamabad, militants decided the time was ripe for major action.
Within a week, insiders at PNS Mehran provided maps, pictures of different exit and entry routes taken in daylight and at night, the location of hangers and details of likely reaction from external security forces.
As a result, the militants were able to enter the heavily guarded facility where one group targeted the aircraft, a second group took on the first strike force and a third finally escaped with the others providing covering fire. Those who stayed behind were killed.
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[url="http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/31-May-2011/Navy-blames-PAF-for-security-lapse"] Navy blames PAF for security lapse[/url]
[color="#FF0000"]The Pakistan Navy has laid the responsibility of the PNS Mehran attack on the Pakistan Air Force,[/color] a private TV channel reported.
In a press briefing on Monday, the Navy officials said the militants entered the PNS Mehran from the area controlled by the PAF and it was the PAFââ¬â¢s responsibility to guard the area. They said the real target of the militants were two PC-3 Orion aircrafts parked at the base. They said 11 Chinese and six US citizens were present at the base but all of them were evacuated in a bullet-proof vehicle.
Last week, the PNS Base Mehran was attacked by terrorists who battled with security men for almost 18 hours. Four out of six terrorists who had set on fire an Orion P-3 plane were gunned down while the other two managed to flee from the scene. At leas 10 security men embraced martyrdom in the incident, officials confirmed.
Agencies add : Pakistani Intelligence agencies arrested three persons including a former SSG commando Kamran Malik along with his brother in connection with PNS Mehran attack from Gulberg area, Lahore, on Monday.
According to sources, intelligences agencies raided the Kamranââ¬â¢s house wherein he, his brother Zaman Malik and his friend were arrested. They were shifted to some undisclosed place for interrogation.
The sources said the former SSG commando was trailed under court martial on the charges of torture and misbehaviour with his officer due to which he was dismissed from the service.
The accused commandoââ¬â¢s father Sadaruddin told the media persons that some people in a tinted-glass car came to their house four days ago and took away his two sons.
He said he had informed the SSP and the SHO of the concerned police station who had assured him the recovery of his sons. But even after four days he had not been informed about his sonsââ¬â¢ whereabouts, he complained.
The father said his son, Kamran Malik, was a prize bonds dealer and he did not go to Karachi. His other son, Zaman Malik, was an agent of a Sui gas department. He said his sons were not involved in any suspicious activity.
ââ¬ÅThey have been detained in connection with the naval base attack and are under interrogation,ââ¬Â one intelligence official said without giving details.
Imran Ahmed, another brother who was not arrested, told Reuters the two persons were taken away by intelligence officials on Friday. He gave no details.
Local people also told the media persons that the accused were not seen involved in any suspicious activity rather they were respectable persons of the area.
Meanwhile, the investigation regarding PNS Mehran attack is underway and all employees of the PNS Mehran base would be probed in this regard, sources said.
The investigation team recorded telephone records of some officials of the PNS Mehran base who would be produced before the investigation team for recording their statements, the sources added.
Meanwhile, the scope of probe into attack on Mehran Base has been extended to Khyber Pakhtunkhawa (KPK) and tribal areas.
Intelligence agencies arrested four suspected persons from the KPK and tribal areas and shifted them to Karachi for investigations.
Reliable sources told that the lists were being worked out regarding owners of containers, their drivers and the traders from whom goods stolen from the NATO containers had been recovered.
The sources disclosed that the law enforcement agencies had informed the government about possible utilisation of goods in terror activities which were stolen from the NATO containers.
The law enforcement agencies had arrested four suspected terrorists from KPK and tribal areas after successful operations. They have been shifted to Peshawar by a private airline under stringent security measures.
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[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Man-found-dead-with-missing-Pak-journalist-s-car/H1-Article1-704128.aspx"] Man found dead with missing Pak journalist's car[/url] Quote:An unidentified body was found along with the car of a missing journalist near the central Pakistani city of Jhelum on Tuesday, police said. The car belonged to Syed Saleem Shahzad, a journalist with Asia Times Online, who has been missing since Sunday evening, police and his relatives said
The car was found at Sarai Alamghir near Jhelum city this afternoon
Nareshji,
PAF is a diversion, atimes story is a real stuff.
[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Pak-journalist-in-ISI-custody/H1-Article1-704082.aspx"] Pak journalist in ISI custody'[/url] Quote:A Pakistani journalist who went missing on Sunday after a story on the terrorist attack on a navy base is in the custody of Pakistan's spy agency ISI, a rights body has alleged. The well-informed Saleem Shahzad, who writes extensively on Islamist groups for Asia Times Online, disappeared after leaving his home to take part in a television talk show.
Those close to Shahzad told the Daily Times newspaper that he had earlier received warnings from security agencies for his reporting on Pakistan, in particular the activities of militant groups.
The reporter who wrote the Asia Times story, Syed Saleem Shahzad (S^3) was found killed after the ISI interrogated him.
Most likely his story of PN infiltrated by Islamist jihadis was true and he got killed for revealing that. Also sends a warning to others thinking of writing such true stuff about the rogues who run TSP.
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