11-27-2008, 08:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-27-2008, 08:51 AM by Shambhu.)
If only the psecs and leftists were the only ones to die in all these attacks..then it would all be worthwhile.
Anyway, our local maharathi hijadas Bal and Raj keep playing jhimma-fugadi. Pitashree and Bhraatashree, get out of Matoshree (the name of Bal's house): I see some poor Bihari trying to earn a living--go beat him up, my brave eunuchs!! Then we can all have some Shiv-vada pavs together yes no?
Mr. Giuliani says: <b>âI remember back to the 1970s and the early 1980s. Iranian mullahs took American hostages, and they held the American hostages for 444 days. And they released the American hostages in one hour, and that should tell us a lot about these Islamic terrorists that weâre facing. The one hour in which they released them was the one hour in which Ronald Reagan was taking the oath of office as president of the United States. The best way you deal with dictators, the best way you deal with tyrants and terrorists, you stand up to them. You donât back down. Iâm Rudy Giuliani, and I approve this message.â </b>
10 hrs, and terrorists still doing diwali celebrations.
Good night nutless Indian puleesh and NSG.
All the mumbai eshpeereet losers are cowering in the beds at home. Where did the mumbai eshpireet go? Naive morons.
This is complete joke. There is only one NSG group which covers all over India. NSG is under Home Ministry. Now all impotents are running Home Ministry. All ministers should walk towards India Gate and hang themslves in Shame, they should also bring along residence of 10 Janpath, their Big stupid Boss.
More than 10 hours and no control of situation.
One japanese reported killed by Muslim terrorist in Taj.
<b>101 killed 6 foreigners </b>
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Yea mainthain calm pleesh.
Now Amar Singh will recruit news guys to do dirty work, his ATS guys are dead.
Where is that b1tch Shabana and her dog javed when we need them to appeal for calm and forget who did this. Maybe they are cowering on all-four at Taj appealing to their fellow jihadis for mercy.
11-27-2008, 09:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-27-2008, 09:56 AM by Bodhi.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mumbai (PTI): ATS chief Hemant Karkare, two senior police officers and 78 others were killed when terrorists struck with impunity in Mumbai on Wednesday in coordinated multiple blasts and gunfire in a dozen areas including at iconic landmarks CST railway station and two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj.
Karkare(54), who is probing the Malegaon blasts case, <b>was gunned down when he was leading an operation</b> at Hotel Taj against terrorists who had taken 15 people, including seven foreigners, as hostages. <b>He was hit by three bullets in his chest. </b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is either too naive, or too boneheaded. Aren't ATS teams across the states taught to wear bulletproof jackets when leading such counter operations? Same for two leading encounter specialists of Mumbai Police who are martyred. Same for the Delhi Police Inspector M C Sharma during Batala. Why do they not wear jackets??? Or is it the case of what yudhiShThira told the yakSha - that none thinks death was meant for oneself too!
He was wearing one. These vests were probably soft vests that are worn with the purpose of stopping small-arms fire and shrapnel, nothing more. 7.62 rounds go right through them. To stop that you would need ceramic plate inserts.
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Nov 27 2008, 09:53 AM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Nov 27 2008, 09:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->This is either too naive, or too boneheaded. Aren't ATS teams across the states taught to wear bulletproof jackets when leading such counter operations? Same for two leading encounter specialists of Mumbai Police who are martyred. Same for the Delhi Police Inspector M C Sharma during Batala. Why do they not wear jackets??? Or is it the case of what yudhiShThira told the yakSha - that none thinks death was meant for oneself too!
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They were showing clips before these guys went for action, their behavior was unprofessional, looks like they were drunk, making fuss with helmet. Whole body language was arrogrance and lack of professionalism. No discipline, these guys were CM and Amar Singh stooge but terrorist were not very selective whether they were CM or Amar's paid khaki.
If you compare with US or British SWAT team, one can see complete difference.
even county level SWAT team are thousand times better and very disciplined.
Indian Government failed to provide key spokeperson. Media is having field day. No control on message. PM is sleeping. Queen Sonia is eating scones and cloated cream. ATS guys turn out to be macho without machoness.
NSG came late, Army reached before hand. Head dead, rest of ATS collapsed. Complete failure of police work.
After 15 hours situation is same.
Complete failure of whole system. Lack of professionalism and after so many terrorist attack they are still unprepared clueless. Zero credibility.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 27 2008, 12:59 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 27 2008, 12:59 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>even county level SWAT team are thousand times better and very disciplined.</b>
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I have said this for years. Just see live footage now, how unorganized and ridiculous they are. Loud, unadulterated mayhem. No organization, no discipline, absolutely zero technique. All problems compounded by crappy training and equipment. I saw a police officer casually waving his pistol (held in one hand) at drivers. Professionals don't do things like that. Indian police, army still stuck in British times.
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Some moron was speaking to media. Nonchalant and totally unconcerned babu. Couldn't say anything from the tip of his tongue. Had to read out information from papers presented to him. Completely useless.
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PM not addressed the country. Totally useless. I can't think of a worse leader than this scumbag.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NSG came late, Army reached before hand. Head dead, rest of ATS collapsed. Complete failure of police work.
After 15 hours situation is same.
Complete failure of whole system. Lack of professionalism and after so many terrorist attack they are still unprepared clueless. Zero credibility.
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Whole world is laughing at India. PM failure, intel failure, police failure, army failure. One has to wonder if 100 (guessing this figure) teenager terrorists can basically control entire city, then what can 10,000 fully armed and trained do?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I saw a police officer casually waving his pistol (held in one hand) at drivers. Professionals don't do things like that. Indian police, army still stuck in British times.
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<b>Navy, Army take control at Oberoi</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->10:57 AM: Fire brigade personnel have started rescuing people from Taj Hotel. Top French Nuclear physicist has also been rescued from the hotel.
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09:27 AM: IB has arrested a Lashkar-e-Tayiba terrorist of Pakistani origin from Mumbai. The e-mail sent after terror attacks has been traced to Russia [Images]. Authorities say the mail was sent by Lashkar operatives. They also believe that the Lashkar terrorists came directly from Karachi to Mumbai.
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This could give outsiders how Indian security forces respond to a crisis. Weak points must be plugged very soon else we should see people exploiting them.
<b>Terrorists were in touch with Karachi via satphones</b>
Now media and police are back in planting stories to divert attention.
Apparently, the old .303's didn't even fire (probably never cleaned it). So the great Inyaan Puleesh were just standing around getting shot at. Too bad they couldn't find some sadhvi, then they could have shown what real men they are.
<!--QuoteBegin-shamu+Nov 27 2008, 12:03 PM-->QUOTE(shamu @ Nov 27 2008, 12:03 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->This could give outsiders how Indian security forces respond to a crisis. Weak points must be plugged very soon else we should see people exploiting them.
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This was worst performance, India can't handle crisis. Total collapse.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Nov 27 2008, 12:08 PM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Nov 27 2008, 12:08 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Apparently, the old .303's didn't even fire (probably never cleaned it). So the great Inyaan Puleesh were just standing around getting shot at. Too bad they couldn't find some sadhvi, then they could have shown what real men they are.
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Have you seen his flak, what a joke was that, my outdoor flak is much better.
His whole neck and 10 inch of chest was exposed, area which is always on direct when other person holds gun or lift hand to shot.
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