Power centers in the corridors of power, Extra Con

07-19-2005, 11:31 AM

07-21-2005, 02:04 AM

A must read document for everyone. Only fools, die hard Congress fans or anti-Hindu p-sec fanatics can argue in favour of Sonia after reading this. You can call it the real journalism at it's best. I wonder if the mainstream media has the guts to print this truth.

http://www.saveindiaforum.com/includes/dow...onia_Gandhi.pdf

07-21-2005, 04:39 AM

BJP asks Cong to take care of UPA's "internal contradictions"
QUOTEStung by the Congress dig on its problems with the RSS, BJP today hit back saying the ruling party would do well to manage its "internal contradictions" instead of targeting the Opposition and vowed "difficult days" for the ruling coalition in the coming Parliament session.

"Let them take care of their internal contradictions first. UPA is a fragile Ulta-Pulta Alliance.Â <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />Â <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />Â The Left is vetoing, Lalu is blackmailing, Paswan is ducking, TRS is threatening, Mulayam is challenging, Mayawati is abusing, NCP is politicking and DMK is thundering," party spokesman Prakash Javadekar told reporters here.

Asserting that the party would play an effective role in the coming Monsoon session of Parliament, he said, "they (UPA) will have to run for cover." Both Congress spokesman Anand Sharma and Parliamentary Affairs Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad had yesterday made tongue-in-cheek remarks against BJP on its ties with the RSS.

Referring to a recent book written by former Bihar Chief Minister Satyendra Narain Sinha, Javadekar said, "it fully exposed the ugly communal face of the Congress party".

Alleging that Sinha had blamed former Chief Minister Bhagwat Jha Azad and senior Congress leader Shivchandra Jha for the 1989 Bhagalpur riots, he demanded a fresh investigation into the communal incidents.

Blaming the Congress for the riots in the country over the past five decades, he demanded that the Government table in the Parliament the report of the Nanavati Commission, which probed the 1984 anti-Sikh riots and Bihar Minority Commission report on the Bhagalpur riots.

07-25-2005, 02:45 AM

Apart from many other pluses, VP Singh's plus of bringing BJP and Left on the same platform may never be replicated. Also, it proves beyond doubt that when STRONG LEADER is there, the political parties cooperate and tend to sink their differences. Not only this but also after the failure of Janta Party, he was the 1st one to give the hope that all is not lost and there is alternative to Congress. He exposed the inexperience of Rajiv who was lame duck PM after the Bofors and HDW charges. I hope this lesson also stays with Indian public as the complex problems of India require all the experience from leader. BOTTOM LINE : SAY NO TO RAHUL. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif' />

07-27-2005, 04:15 AM

<img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/omg.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='omg.gif' /> SONIA WHO?
Msg recd from Peeyush:
It was 9 pm, I reached home from my job and switched on the TV. This news was continously being aired on all major news channels and thanks to Star Movies and HBO, there was no good movie at that time, so I happend to cover the full bulletin on Gurgaon incident. Frankly I was not amazed, neither disturbed on the incident except for the fact that I own a Honda machine. Had a bad day, so I didn't wanted to get deep into the matter and scratch my head but suddenly a news flashed on the NDTV 24x7 that Sonia had expressed deep concerns over the matter. I said okay, fine. Then it was followed by another news...'Sonia summoned Hooda'....'Sonia had ordered for an enquiry commission on the matter'...'Who so ever is responsible, action will be taken against them'....so so so so.....I felt storms in my head questioning me...Who is Sonia? Agreed she is head of the ruling party....RULING PARTY...she is not a part of the government. She holds no post. I agree she holds a special postion in India, but emotionally not physically. Statements like these can be expected from her or any other celebrity person. But taking and handling those actions like the almighty's golden words in stupid. For the full one hour the news flashes were ...Sonia said this...sonia said that...Hey...Where is the PM man...where is the Haryana CM and where is the Home Minister...
I am not against the lady....but few things disturb me as how people take her.....think of her as god....PM and Prez stand nowhere....I dont know why.....She did one thing good...or rather tactfully...and that is leaving the PM post...When you can act leader without the tensions and responsibilities of the same post...its like ..dono hatho mein laddo or sir kadai mein
My response thereof : <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lmaosmiley.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lmaosmiley.gif' />
Sonia reminds me of anecdote whereby a woman to show her new ring put her house on fire and directed every1 there pointing her ring finger.
I pray that she does not set the whole country on fire to show her
power.

07-27-2005, 05:15 AM

I will blame millions of Indians who are sleeping as they did 1000 years back.
Lets us do our job, educate them and wake them now. (Main objective of India-Forum)

07-27-2005, 05:31 AM

What is the relation between Sonia Gandhi and Rev D. Ronald Watts

07-28-2005, 07:51 AM

<img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tv_feliz.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tv_feliz.gif' /> Ruled by the nominee 
The remote control is more commonplace in our democracy than we admit

T. V. R. SHENOY
Posted online: Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 0034 hours IST

When Vijayalakshmi Pandit arrived in August 1947 to take up her post as Indiaâs first ambassador in Moscow, the Soviet Foreign Ministry told her first secretary that there was a mistake in her credentials; the letter had been addressed to Marshal Stalin rather than the ââChairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Sovietââ. (For anyone who is interested, this was someone called Shverin, an apparatchik who barely rates a footnote today.) The point is that Stalin didnât care a toss who held the offices of government as long as the reins of power were actually in his fist.

Pick up a civics text-book, and it tells you that the Indian republic enjoys the parliamentary form of government, occasionally also called the Westminster model. This is a lie. It is not the Palace of Westminster which is the role model for governance in 21st century India but another court altogether â the Kremlin.

The difference is not subtle. The men and women who gather in the chamber of the Commons in the Palace of Westminster have been directly elected by the British people. But how the masters of the Kremlin conquer the Russian fortress is a secret known only to themselves over the centuries. Whether tsar or commissar, the masses of Russia never had any say in the matter. (And I am not so sure that all that much has changed even in the Yeltsin-Putin era.)

The cornerstone of the Kremlin model is that the party is more important than the popularly elected representatives. Who expected Khrushchevâs rise to power soon after Stalinâs death? Or that a Chernenko would serve an interregnum between Andropov and Gorbachev? Certainly not the people of Russia!

True power in the Soviet Union lay with the general-secretary of the CPSU, not with the formal head of state or government. For a large portion of his career, Stalin never bothered to take up the post of president or prime minister. You can trace the decline of the Soviet Union by the titles assumed by the Supreme Leaders; Stalin didnât care, Khrushchev was premier during his years in power, and the last ones, from Brezhnev to Gorbachev, insisted on being full-blown heads of state.

Our home-grown Communists may be the last in the world to share Stalinâs mild contempt for the fripperies of government office. When the party is more important than the elected representatives why would any ambitious Marxist dirty his hands by begging for votes? Thus it is that Alimuddin Street in Kolkata carries more punch than Writersâ Building and that the AKG Centre is far more important than the puppet (assuming there is one) in the Thiruvananthapuram Secretariat.

Unhappily, the Congress and other parties are following the same undemocratic path. Who would deny that 10 Janpath ranks far higher for the average Congressman than does 7, Race Course Road? And how many Lok Sabha MPs were involved in choosing either H.D. Deve Gowda or I.K. Gujral as prime minister? Certainly not Gujral himself, who admitted that he was so far out of the loop that he was taking an afternoon nap when the United Frontâs inner group nominated him! (If memory serves me, the only Lok Sabha representatives in the cabal that anointed both men were P. Chidambaram and Mulayam Singh Yadav.) Proving that the disease is contagious, the popular perception is that Keshav Kunj in Nagpur is starting to tower over Asoka Road in Delhi. In this at least, the BJP is a party with no difference!

I couldnât care less about the internal dynamics of the Congress, the BJP, or the Marxists. How they choose to conduct their internal affairs is really nobody elseâs business (except that of the Election Commission in certain instances). But as a citizen of the âworldâs largest democracyâ I am certainly worried that I seem to have no say in choosing my prime minister or my president. The last General Election was supposed to be a contest where Indians were invited to choose between Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Sonia Gandhi, so where did Dr Manmohan Singh come in?

No, I have no axe to grind against our current prime minister. He is an honest man and an efficient administrator. But, and this is what sticks in the craw, he was not sent to Race Course Road with a popular mandate. He was certainly not chosen by the elected MPs either, as Doordarshanâs cameras made amply clear by showing us the scenes when Sonia Gandhi nominated him. Whether prime minister or chief minister, the man in office is chosen by the party High Command rather than the voters.

When Britons went to the polls in May they knew they were choosing between Tony Blair and the Conservative nominee, Michael Howard. The voters also knew that Gordon Brown might replace Blair in the life of this Commons. The Americans knew they could send either Bush or Kerry to the White House last November, and they also know who stood by in the wings should either man be incapacitated in office. Which voter in India has such a luxury?

We sniggered when Bal Thackeray spoke of possessing the âremote controlâ when Manohar Joshi became chief minister of Maharashtra in 1995. The Shiv Sena chief was just being less hypocritical about the situation than his colleagues. Rule by progeny and <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/furious.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='furious.gif' /> rule by nominee are the twin banes of Indian politics â and, of the two, the second is the greater threat to democracy.

08-03-2005, 02:31 AM

Rajiv Gandhi illgotten money

08-08-2005, 11:25 AM

Sonia everywhere
Where is Mr. Prime Minister? Busy counting his TA/DA.

08-11-2005, 12:22 AM

1984 riots report echo: Tytler resignsQUOTETytler handed over the resignation to Congress president Sonia Gandhi following a 30-minute meeting.

Tytler was indicted in the Nanavati Commission report that enquired into the riots targeting Sikhs in the aftermath of the then prime minister Indira Gandhi.

Tytler is understood to have told that the reason he submitted the resignation to Sonia instead of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was because he thought she was his leader. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' />

08-11-2005, 08:01 AM

So Tytler is the fall-guy while Gandhis are absolved. We need one more
commission to get to the "real" Truth.

Didn't Mr Rajiv say: "If the big tree falls, earth tremors" or something like
that.

Bharatvarsh · 08-11-2005, 06:20 PM

QUOTEText of Tytler's letter to Sonia Gandhi

August 11, 2005 00:37 IST

Following is the text of the letter Jagdish Tytler wrote to Congress President Sonia Gandhi before tendering his resignation.

Respected Sonia Gandhiji,

I write this with a heavy heart, hurt as I am due to my name having been mentioned in the Justice Nanavati report on the basis of complete distortion of facts.

I need hardly reiterate my unstinting loyalty to the party and your family, my association with both having been since 1972.

Madam, I have become a victim of sustained conspiracy by my political adversaries, including from within my party.

I find that the development of last two days have taken a turn which have created an embarrassing situation for you personally and for the government, and hence I am enclosing my unconditional letter of resignation from the Council of Ministers, addressed to the Honourable Prime Minister, and I trust this shall enable you to take the decision in the interest of the party.

I once again take this opportunity to assure you that as always, I shall remain a loyal Congressman.

With respectful regards,

Yours Sincerely

(signed)

Jagdish Tytler

http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/aug/11tytler1.htm

08-11-2005, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 27 2005, 05:31 AM) What is the relation betweenÂ Sonia Gandhi andÂ Rev D. Ronald Watts 
Mudy

This is great man! I don't know how stupid we Indians are not to see what is happening man!

08-11-2005, 09:40 PM

QUOTESo Tytler is the fall-guy while Gandhis are absolved
He is not a fall guy, but he was ringleader during 1984. Known Goonda of Delhi and left hand of Sanjay Gandhi and buddy of Sheila Dixit.

QUOTEDidn't Mr Rajiv say: "If the big tree falls, earth tremors" or something like
that. 
Yes he said these words on TV in front of whole world. He did nothing.

08-11-2005, 11:53 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Aug 11 2005, 08:10 AM) <div class='quotetop'>QUOTESo Tytler is the fall-guy while Gandhis are absolved
He is not a fall guy, but he was ringleader during 1984. Known Goonda of Delhi and left hand of Sanjay Gandhi and buddy of Sheila Dixit.

QUOTEDidn't Mr Rajiv say: "If the big tree falls, earth tremors" or something like
that. 
Yes he said these words on TV in front of whole world. He did nothing. </div>
Mudy,
You took what I said differently. I know he is a low-life and
guilty.

What I meant was that in this episode he was made fall-guy
and Gandhis escaped. I see some stink in that commission.
Gandhis, the masters of these ring leaders, are as much guilty
as this guy.

08-14-2005, 02:42 AM

Sonia likely to meet Bush in SeptemberQUOTECongress President Sonia Gandhi is likely to meet President George W Bush at the White House during her US visit next month.

Sonia, who is scheduled to visit New York for a global meet organised by former President Bill Clinton, is likely to extend the visit to Washington.

Sonia is also likely to meet with members of US Congress.

Bush will be returning to Washington from Texas on September 7. His detailed schedule for the rest of the month will be worked out only after that.

The Congress is currently in recess and will return after Labour Day.

Bharatvarsh · 08-14-2005, 05:35 AM

QUOTEMaha working out package for worst affected villages: Sonia

August 13, 2005 13:49 IST

The Maharashtra government is working out a package for the worst-affected villages of the state in the recent floods, Congress president Sonia Gandhi said in Narsingwadi on Saturday.

During a visit to Narsingwadi village in Shirol taluka of Kolhapur district, one of the worst-affected areas, she assured the people that the state government would provide all assistance to them.

Sonia, who was accompanied by Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh and Marketing Minister Harshwardhan Patil, asked the former to look into the complaints of the people, who had suffered heavy losses in the recent floods.

The United Progressive Alliance chairperson, who was earlier scheduled to visit Takaliwadi, cancelled her programme and visited the Shirol village. She interacted with the residents, who narrated their harrowing experineces to her.

http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/aug/13sonia.htm

08-14-2005, 09:26 PM

QUOTEBesides meetings with President Bush and other top administration officials, she is also expected to meet with key law-makers at a time when the administration and Indian supporters will be straining to get the U.S-India nuclear deal through Congress.

The remarkable feat of a predominantly Hindu country being powered by a Roman Catholic leader, with the Head of government a Sikh and the Head of State a Muslim is a fact that has not gone unnoticed in Washington.

President Bush himself has remarked more than once about India's stunning diversity and Mrs Gandhi's visit, her second to Washington since 2000, will only reinforce this.  <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/argue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='argue.gif' />
Now they don't even hesitate calling her ROman Catholic. Since when she became Catholic Leader.

Bharatvarsh · 08-17-2005, 10:01 PM

QUOTETytler, Sajjan threaten Sonia with 'exposure'

17 August 2005: Congress president Sonia Gandhi has been seriously disconcerted by threats of Jagdish Tytler and Sajjan Kumar that they would go public with their âknowledgeâ of the 1984 riots either if they are expelled from the party, losing their primary membership, or if moves are initiated to prosecute them for the massacre of Sikhs hours after the assassination of then prime minister Indira Gandhi.

Top sources said that they have also threatened to float a new political party, called the Delhi Congress Manch, whose principle aim would be to subvert the Shiela Dikshit government, one-third of whose supporting legislators now reportedly oppose her, and the two Congress MPs are also planning to print pamphlets showing Sikhs allegedly celebrating Mrs Gandhiâs assassination by distributing sweets.

Keeping by and large away from the media, both MPs blame it for turning the nation against them, and their aim now is to salvage their reputation, although Sonia has declined to meet them, saying there are no issues to discuss, but that they should await further directions.

Political sources said that Sonia Gandhi has been considerably unnerved by threats of further exposure of the 1984 riots, but the prosecution of Tytler and Sajjan Kumar for the massacres is becoming unstoppable, because of the national outrage, and since the Congressâs allies in the UPA are absolutely insisting upon it, but the biggest immediate fear is for the fate of the Delhi government.

http://www.indiareacts.com/nati2.asp?recno=3429

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