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<b>Vajra Shakti Military Exercise</b> | 9th May 2005 @ Near Jalandhar, Punjab, India
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<b>Know Your Army - Indian Army Exhibition</b> | May 2005 @ Bangalore
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<b>Aero India 2005, Asia's Premier Air Show</b> | 9th-13th February 2005 @ Yalhanka, Bangalore, India
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Who is this traitor and still alive?
<b>'Indian brigadier sold 1965 war plans to Pakistan'</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The officer, who was still alive, had retired after serving at a "very top position", said Gohar, 68, who is known to be a hawk and generally opposed to normalising relations with India. He has served as the speaker of the National Assembly and as the country's foreign minister.

Detailing the manner in which the plans were acquired, Gohar claimed that it was agreed between Pakistani agents and the Indian Army officer that payment would be made in London. The officer would deliver the war plan in New Delhi after getting confirmation that the money had been paid.

The Pakistani military attache in London, Brigadier Said Ghaus, made the payment, Gohar said.

However, when the plan was studied at the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, everyone from Ayub Khan down were surprised at its comprehensiveness and some even thought it an Indian plan.

The plan was rechecked from other intelligence sources in New Delhi and it turned out to the actual plan, Gohar said.

"Ayub Khan then issued instructions that in future, the Pakistan Army should not keep its own plans with so much details as the Indians had done so that these plans were not leaked to the enemy," The News quoted Gohar as saying.

Ayub Khan deployed Pakistani forces on those fronts where the Indians planned to attack and also sent some forces to those areas that Indian Army did not plan to attack. Thus, when the war began, Indian commanders were surprised at the resistance they encountered.

At one stage, according to Gohar, Indian troops began pulling back across the Beas and the Pakistani forces were ordered to engage in hot pursuit.

However, the rashness of a Pakistani tank driver resulted in a crucial bridge over the river collapsing and the advance was halted. The bridge could not be repaired for three days, and during this period, the Indians breached a number of canals to flood the area and permanently stop the Pakistan Army's forward movement.

"This greatly disappointed Ayub Khan as despite the availability of the secret (Indian) plan, Pakistan failed to utilise its advantages," Gohar said
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Kargil war: A forgotten anniversary </b>
Pioneer News Service / New Delhi
The Nation, it seems, has forgotten the sacrifices made by more than 570 soldiers on the icy heights of Kargil in 1999 to throw out Pakistan regular soldiers and ISI-backed terrorists and July 26, the day Operation Vijay was finally over, passed with low key commemorations this year.

While the Army units, which took part in the nearly two-month long operation, observed the day by recalling events from the war and remembering their fallen comrades, the political class and the common citizens had to be reminded about the importance of July 26.

The ongoing peace process between India and Pakistan, perhaps, made the political class cautious about observing the day, unlike in the past when the then government marked the day by paying homage at Amar Jawan Jyoti in Delhi. The then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee lit a candle and exhorted the nation to do the same in memory of the martyrs.

The marking of July 26 as Vijay Diwas stopped in the year 2003, and this year was the third in the row when it was a low key affair, with Army formations involved in the battle observing the day with functions at unit headquarters remembering their personnel who had covered themselves with glory.

Army units in Drass, Batalik and Kargil, which saw action and our officers and jawans fighting against heavy odds marked the day by holding simple ceremonies.

Incidentally, the Kargil war was the first conflict which was brought right into the drawing rooms of millions of Indians, courtesy television, and heroes like Manoj Pandey, Anuj Nayyar, Vikram Batra, Saurabh Kalia, Haneefuddin and Vijayant Thapar became household names. All these young officers gave their lives while performing gallant deeds on the formidable heights of Kargil.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Strange amnesia</b>
The Pioneer Edit Desk
On July 26 six years ago, Indian Army's Operation Vijay finally ended with its troops recapturing the freezing heights of Kargil, earlier occupied stealthily by regular troops of the Pakistani Army and irregulars trained by Islamabad's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Directorate.

Thus had ended over two months of fierce warfare in the course of which its officers and men, effectively supported by the Indian Air Force, scripted history by their deeds of courage and valour. Climbing steep sometimes at inclines of almost 90 degrees-mountainsides under heavy fire, they took on enemy troops entrenched in heavily fortified bunkers and vanquished them in fierce close-range combat. The history of human warfare has many records of men scaling forbidding heights and triumphing over entrenched enemies.

In 1759 British troops under Maj-Gen James Wolfe climbed the heights of Abraham along a narrow cliff path and, in the battle that ensued, defeated French troops under Lieut-Gen Louis, Marquis of Montcalm, to capture Montreal. During World War II, allied troops, particularly Gorkhas and Poles, scaled the most challenging heights to oust the Germans from Monte Casino in Italy. Yet, in perhaps no other conflict in history, had so many and so steep mountainsides to be scaled under such daunting circumstances as in the Kargil War in 1999. In doing so, 570 Indian Army personnel, including young officers who, in the highest traditions of the force, led from the front, died.

As casualties go in war, the figure was by no means heavy. In terms of valour, however, the deeds of those who perished have few parallels in the chronicles of warfare. Understandably, the conflict, though limited, was marked by the award of a large number of medals for gallantry and, while it lasted, and for some time after that, the media lavishly highlighted the bravery of the men in olive green and Government and the public figures stridently announced in diverse fora not to forget either their deeds or the memories of the martyrs.

Yet, Wednesday July 26 came and went as any other day for most people in the country. The victories and the dead were remembered mostly by the formations to which both belonged.

How a nation remembers and honours those who died defending it provides a reliable indication of the level of patriotism that prevails in it. Earlier this year, one witnessed how Europe and the United States, solemnly and with great dignity, observed the 60th anniversary of their victory over the axis powers. Last year, they observed the 60th anniversary of D-Day landing in Normandy. On Wednesday, India hardly remembered what happened only six years ago. What could be a more unfortunate commentary on this country's sense of patriotism and feeling of gratitude toward its martyrs?

And it is not Kargil War alone. How many remember the feats of Brigadier Mohammad Osman and Major Som Nath Sharma during the first Kashmir War immediately after Independence? Or the courage of the Indian troops at Rezang-La, Chushul, Walong and Dhola during the 1962 conflict with China? Or the capture of Kargil and the Haji Peer Pass, the victory at Khem Karan and the halting of Pakistani offensive at the Munwar Tawi river in Jammu, in 1965? How many remember the storming of the Daulatpur cantonment and Hili in the 1971 war with Pakistan? On the war memorial in Kohima is written the epitaph, 'When you go home/Tell them of us and say/For their tomorrow/ We gave our today'. Have we forgotten those who gave their today in Kargil and other battlefronts?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<b>Narrow escape for defence top brass, Russian minister </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->MAHAJAN FIRING RANGE (RAJASTHAN), OCTOBER 16: It was a narrow escape for the Army’s top brass, the IAF chief, the Russian Defence Minister and about 50 senior military officers this morning during the first Indo-Russian airborne exercise in the Thar desert. A heavy load, including an anti-tank guided missile jeep, that was dropped with parachutes from an IAF Antonov-32 transport plane landed just three metres away from spectator’s pavilion where they sat.

The crate came so close that most officers got out of their chairs and rushed forward, fearing that it would crash into their pavilion. An unexpected gust of wind in the north-westerly direction blew the load towards the onlookers.

Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi, clearly troubled by the close call, said later that he had ordered a debrief from the mission pilot but had ‘‘nothing more to add’’. In fact, it was the Russian Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov who lunged to rescue the embarrassed Indian military brass by saying, ‘‘In a real war situation, you would not have pavilions with VIPs and journalists. In the event, it was a perfect drop, since the load landed neatly concealed between two dunes. I congratulate you on that.’’.............
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<b>'Indian brigadier sold 1965 war plans to Pakistan'</b><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The officer, who was still alive, had retired after serving at a "very top position", said Gohar, 68, who is known to be a hawk and generally opposed to normalising relations with India. He has served as the speaker of the National Assembly and as the country's foreign minister.

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Mudy,

In my opinion, that is a Pakistani bullshit.
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#7
Couple of Muslim senior officers switched side during 1965 war. So not surprised.
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<b>Manekshaw serious; to be shifted to Delhi Army hospital</b>
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<b>Disabled Army officers to protest Govt apathy</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Peeved at the treatment meted out to them by the Indian Army after they were disabled while in service, a group of former Army officers on Tuesday announced <b>they would burn their gallantry medals at India Gate in New Delhi on December 28.</b>

The retired officers said that despite being disabled while in the service of the country, the Army authorities had chosen to shower apathy on them - even denying them their pension benefits.

The officers, numbering about two dozen, said their protest was meant to highlight the plight of hundreds of soldiers who were fighting legal cases against the Army to get their dues.................
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Its really sad.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Indian peacekeeper killed in Congo </b>
New Delhi
A United Nations peacekeeper from India was killed and four others injured in an attack by suspected Ugandan rebels in Nord-kivu province in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo, Army sources here said. Naib Subedar Ram Kirpal Singh, part of the nine-guard Peacekeeping Force deployed in Congo, was killed when their camp came under heavy rocket attack on Monday morning, they said.

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Sad day for India.
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<b>India tests nuclear-capable missile </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NEW DELHI (AFP) - India successfully tested its nuclear-capable, short-range Dhanush ballistic missile, defence officials said.

The locally-developed missile, a naval version of the surface-to-surface Prithvi, was tested on Wednesday from a ship in the Bay of Bengal off the east coast of Orissa state, the Press Trust of India said, quoting official sources.

Dhanush -- which means bow in Hindi -- has a range of 250 kilometres (156 miles) and can carry a payload of 500 kilograms (1,100 pounds), the news agency said............
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<b>Pakistan decommissions four French origin submarines Islamabad</b>

Pakistan on Monday decommissioned four of its Daphne Class French origin submarines, a Pakistan Navy (PN) statement said.

<b>Daphne class submarines were inducted in Pakistan Navy between 1967 and 1977.<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>*</span></b>

These submarines have been decommissioned after 35 years of meritorious service including participation in 1971 war with India.

Daphne submarines remained a potent punch of the fleet and contributed in all domains of maritime defense during their entire service, the statement said.

A ceremony to pay homage to these proven platforms of Pakistan Navy was held at Pakistan Navy Dockyard in Karachi.

Pakistan's Vice Chief of Naval Staff Vice Admiral Mohammad Haroon, speaking on the occasion said that despite phasing out of Daphne submarines, the submarine squadron is capable of generating a forceful deterrence to PN fleet war-time requirement.

He said that with the induction of Agosta class submarines, PN submarine force has entered a new era of dealing with much more sophisticated state of the art technology and is ready both mentally and materially to prove equal to the task and trust the nation has reposed in the Navy.

<b>He also acknowledged the approach and resolve of the government to make Pakistan Navy a strong maritime force with the modern-way platforms and weaponry.</b>

<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>* :</span></b> According to information at hand the Four Daphne Class Pakis Subs were commissioned as follows :

HANGOR & SHUSHUK : 12 JAN 1970, MANGRO : 8 AUG 1970 and GHAZI : 1 OCT 1969.

Pakistan is now left with the two Hashmat (Agosta) Class HASHMAT – Commissioned 17 Feb 1979 and HURMAT – Commissioned 18 Feb 1980 plus the two Agosta 90B Types KHALID & SAAD. I am not sure if the third sister ship HUMZA has been commissioned.

When the third sister is commissioned Pakistan will have only Five Submarines versus the Fourteen by India i.e. Four SHISHUMAR Class ( Type 1500) - Commissioned between Sep 1986 an May 1994 – 10 SINDHUGHOSH Class (Kilo – Type 877EM/8773) Commissioned between April 1986 an July 2000.

Thus Pakistani Submarine Force will be severely restricted vis-à-vis its Indian Navy counterpart.

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<b>UAE wants to train navy personnel in India</b>

United Arab Emirates has evinced interest in training its naval personnel in India as also seeking assistance in setting up a submarine arm for its navy.

These topics figured prominently in discussions the visiting commander of the UAE naval forces Rear Admiral Sohail Mohammed Khalifa Al-Marar had with the Naval Chief Admiral Arun Prakash in New Delhi.

Heading a five-member delegation, Khalifa Al-Marar is currrently on a three-day visit in New Delhi during which he will embark upon the navy's latest acquisition -- the Talwar class stealth frigates and an SSK class submarine in Mumbai.

India's assistance to UAE for a hydro-graphic survey and coastal zone management also came up for discussion, a naval spokesman said.

The two sides, the spokesman said also discussed holding of passage exercises in the near future. Indian Navy already has held joint exercises with UAE neighbour Oman.

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<b>Playing with fire </b>
<i>Pranab Mukherjee is undeserving of being defence minister.</i><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->20 February 2006: Who would be our worst defence minister? The best we know, Y.B.Chawan, who prepared the military in time to win the 1965 war that Pakistan provoked. The second best defense minister we know too, undoubtedly George Fernandes, who not only understood and encouraged higher military thinking, but also spend the most quality time with the troops, undertaking a record number of visits to Siachen, the worst place for any infantry to be anywhere in the world. And it is unbelievable that at his age, he was riding seventy, Fernandes went twice up in a MiG-21 to pull the air force’s morale that it was a good, safe warplane. Not many men who can afford not to do such a thing would do so, much less a minister. And we know what ministers are made of from the general run of them.

But to the first question, who is our worst defence minister? Not, as most would vote, Mulayam Singh Yadav, he did not get enough time and opportunity to damage the military, but it would be a close call between V.K.Krishna Menon, who lead us to the 1962 debacle, and Pranab Mukherjee, who is now aiding the process of communalisation of our singular great armed forces. Probably Krishna Menon would still win the odds of being our worst minister to head the defence forces, but Pranab Mukherjee comes a close second.

What makes Krishna Menon and Pranab Mukherjee worse than they otherwise would be is their destructive cleverness, even brilliance, in Menon’s case, and a shyster’s approach with Pranab. Krishna Menon was of course close to Nehru, Nehru had a blindspot for the man, but Menon had such powers of convincing and he was so much a consummate and ruthless infighter, playing on Nehru’s perpetual fears of an army coup, that he prevented the modernisation and optimum rearmament of the defence forces. He also played on Nehru’s line that the Chinese were friends, and would never be inimical to us, at least because we went out on a limb to back them in the UN. But more pertinent to the army, Krishna Menon with Nehru’s backing completely destroyed General K.S.Thimayya’s great plans for reviving the Indian army, and in the end, Thimayya, who could have made all the difference to 1962, went away a bitter, disillusioned man. ...............
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Thank God, he is not a PM.
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Our High Court Correspondent
Chandigarh, February 20
<b>In a unique case, a “Hindu” Indian Air Force official has moved the Punjab and Haryana High Court seeking directions to the respondents, including the top brass of the armed forces, not to force him to cut his tuft of hair (choti). </b>

A similar petition, this one having been filed by a Muslim soldier seeking that he be allowed to keep a beard, is also pending in the High Court.

The petitioner, Mr Naresh Kumar, has said that he joined the service in 1987 and since then he has been sporting the tuft of hair. However, last year, on September 7, 2005, his senior officer, Flying Officer M. Singh, issued him a show-cause notice for keeping the tuft of hair. The show cause notice also directed him to cut the hair.

The petitioner is at present posted at 18 Wing, Air Force Station, Pathankot.

Saying that he replied to the show-cause notice the very next day, the petitioner has said that he was issued a fresh show-cause notice a few days later. He replied to this show-cause notice also. However, he is being threatened with dire consequences in order to force him to cut the tuft of hair.

<b>The petitioner has stated that when he joined service, no objection was raised to his keeping the tuft of hair. He has also claimed that the tuft of hair was part of his religious practice.</b>
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India-Pakistan Military cooperation. The HT of date reports:-
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<b>Indo-Pak jugalbandi in Congo
SUTIRTHO Patranobis
New Delhi






WHEN THIS contingent of the Indian Air Force spots an advancing Pakistani troop, it has orders to open fire. Nothing unusual in that, except that they will not be firing at their traditional enemies but rather shielding them from a common foe.
Believe it or not, an IAF contingent flew off to the Democratic Republic of Congo on Wednesday with its task cut out: to give air cover to Pakistani ground troops stationed at Bukavu, one of the areas worst hit by the civil war in Congo. Both the Pakistani and Indian troops are part of a UN peacekeeping force.

Currently, there are more than 17,000 UN troops in Congo, of which one Pakistani brigade is stationed at Bukavu, located in eastern Congo on the banks of Lake Kivu. An Indian brigade is stationed on the other side of the lake, at a place called Goma. “The situation in the area is still volatile. The main task of the IAF contingent will be to protect the Pakistani soldiers when they step out of their camps for action. Moreover, Indian and Pakistani soldiers will be sharing the same camp and eating at the same mess,” said an IAF officer.

The IAF contingent — called Indian Aviation Contingent (IAC) II — comprises 285 personnel, including 40 pilots. They will be flying nine helicopters — five MI-17 and four MI-35 attack helicop ters. Group Captain Rajan Kapur, with more than 5,000 hours of flying experience, heads the team. Air Marshal Ajit Bhavnani, vice-chief of air staff, flagged off the contingent on Wednesday.

“While the IAC II will act as a deterrent to any attack on Pakistani soldiers, it will also provide mobility to ground troops,” the officer said. Besides pilots, technical experts, medical, support and administration staff are also part of the team.

The contingent’s job becomes more important as the first ever elections are scheduled to be held in the African republic later this year.

The IAF at present has three operations in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Besides Bukavu, it has the IAC I stationed at Goma. The IAF also maintains an airfield for UN aircrafts — under the Air Field Services (AFS) contingent — at Kindoo. Besides these, it runs a primary school for local children in Bukavu.

Camaraderie The IAF contingent’s job is to give air ¦ cover to Pak ground troops in Bukavu, one of the areas worst hit by civil war ¦ Both Pak and Indian troops are part of UN peacekeeping force ¦ Indian and Pak soldiers will be sharing same camp and eating at same mess</b>Unquote
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<b>Indian Pak Military Comparison </b>

ftp://kartavya.net/pub/IndPakMilitBalance.doc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1735912.stm
(additional info on nukes, this one is from 2003)
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[Jayshastriji- What is the point you are trying to make from this old data. Shri J.N.Dixit passed away quite sometime back. For the latest you may consult Jane's Military Balance 2006 or some database on the net.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Ravish+Feb 26 2006, 09:06 PM-->QUOTE(Ravish @ Feb 26 2006, 09:06 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->[Jayshastriji- What is the point you are trying to make from this old data. Shri J.N.Dixit passed away quite sometime back. For the latest you may consult Jane's Military Balance 2006 or some database on the net.
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I thought it was a good comparision to keep on this board. 2006 comparision would be better. If you have that do put it up and I will take mine off.
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<b>ARMY HEAD COUNT: A MOMENT OF TRUTH?</b> --by Col R Hariharan (retd.)
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I did not want to write on the issue earlier as a full-blown debate was fought in the arena eight-second dispensers of wisdom on the TV and the hallowed op-ed pages of national media. When the heat and dust has settled now, I want to caution, perhaps a last hurrah, on the dangers of meddling with a complex working organism like the army. I fear if they treat the issue of headcount in the armed forces like any other issue, it requires no great foresight to say the nation would pay the price for such casualness. We will then have an army fighting with itself, than the enemy. All those who have served in the army would agree to this. Not because army is the ideal institution where no wrong is ever committed in the name of caste or creed but because it is not accepted part of the culture, unlike most of the other limbs of the government. But if the representatives of the people still want to go ahead with it let them have the courage of conviction and follow the due process of law. Amend the constitution; create reservations for all communities in the armed forces; have promotions made on the basis of caste and religion.

And thank God, I have retired from the army well before all this happens!
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