<b>Quietly, China constructs barrage across the Sutlej</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->For the past few years, Chinese authorities have been building a barrage on the river in a remote part of west Tibet. Located across the Zada (Tsamda) gorge, an important crossing point, the barrage is probably intended to generate power for Zada town.
The satellite images of the gorge, which is also the access point to the ancient Toling monastery and Tsaparang (capital of the ancient Guge kingdom), show the barrage distinctly.<b> The images suggest work on the barrage has been completed, but it could not be confirmed. China has not sought publicity for it, as it had done for the Three Gorges Dam</b>.
Whatever be the stage of construction, the idea of a barrage across the Sutlej â which enters
<b>India near Shipki La in Himachal Pradesh â is bad news for the country. Given the wide body of evidence showing the drying up of lakes, streams and rivers on the northern side of the Himalayas, the barrage raises concern that China may finally be controlling the flow of water into India.</b>
<b>Such constructions could also lead to disasters. In 2004, an artificial lake on the Parichu stream (a tributary of the Spiti in Tibet) caused floods after a landslide, leading to heavy loss of life in the Sutlej and Spiti valleys. In 2005, flash floods in the Sutlej Valley at Kinnaur again turned the attention towards the artificial lake</b>
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Look at India, have all type of nonsense treaties with Pakistan and when its China, tail is between legs.
<b>India's tail is not between the legs while dealing with PRC. Mudy appears to have been fed totally wrong information on pressent day progress in India-China relations.The following first page story of the International Herald Tribune gives the latest-
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Along the Silk Road, a smoothing of tensions
By David Lague and Amelia Gentleman International Herald Tribune
Published: July 6, 2006
BEIJING China and India reopened an ancient Himalayan border pass Thursday, symbolizing how burgeoning trade and warming political ties between the rising Asian giants are gradually eroding bitter historical enmities.
The Nathu-la Pass, once part of the ancient Silk Road that linked China and India, was reopened for local trade 44 years after it was shut during a brief but fierce border war.
The mountain pass, at a height of 4,545 meters, or 14,910 feet, connects Yadong County in Tibet with the northeast Indian state of Sikkim.
Signboards warning "You are under enemy observation now" have been replaced by notices declaring in Chinese: "Please come here. We are very good friends," Indian media reported.
After painstaking negotiations, Beijing and New Delhi have resumed trade at three remote passes along their 3,500-kilometer, or 2,175-mile, frontier, although major sections of the border remain in dispute.
Trade and political analysts on both sides say the agreement to expand border commerce demonstrates how a joint commitment to economic cooperation is reducing the importance of longstanding territorial disputes between the two countries.
"This is an indicator of the growing economic relationship between India and China," said Yan Xuetong, an international relations specialist at Tsinghua University in Beijing. "Both sides are hungry for trade."
The pass opening coincided with the birthday of the Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, who has lived in exile in India since 1959.
Broadcasting footage of local officials exchanging silk scarves at the world's highest trading post, Indian media heralded this as a new beginning for Chinese-Indian relations.
Some analysts say the parallel rise of China and India has the potential to reshape the global economic and political order, particularly if the two nuclear-armed powers can avoid strategic competition or further conflict.
Regular high-level exchanges in recent years have allowed them to overcome much of the mutual suspicion arising from the border war in 1962.
Economic links that languished for decades after the war are now booming. Two-way trade last year soared 37.5 percent to $18.7 billion, according to Chinese government figures. Trade this year is expected to easily surpass the $20 billion mark, a target both governments have set for 2008.
Both sides have made concessions - some discreetly - so that territorial disagreements do not dominate the relationship.
Indian analysts said the opening of the crossing sealed Beijing's acceptance of the tiny, remote region of Sikkim - nestled between Nepal and the kingdom of Bhutan, high in the Himalayas - as an Indian state.
The dispute over this once-independent principality, which was annexed by India in 1975 and subsequently claimed by China, represented a thorn in bilateral relations until last year, when Beijing finally recognized the Indian annexation as part of talks to improve relations between the two countries.
"I am very happy," the chief minister of Sikkim, Pawan Kumar Chamling, told local media, adding that he hoped it would be a watershed in relations between the two countries. "My long- cherished dream is being fulfilled."
Muchkund Dubey, an academic specializing in Southeast Asian studies and a former foreign secretary of India, said the opening was an important step forward in relations between the two countries despite the continued presence of other areas of tension. "Sikkim was a symbol of war," he said. "With the opening of this pass, China now recognizes the state of Sikkim as part of India.
"There are still unresolved problems. There is an ongoing border question and India remains concerned about China's role in South Asia, as the most important source of military supply to the countries in the region, and the impact this has on the balance of power."
New Delhi, for its part, has officially recognized Chinese sovereignty over Tibet, despite continuing to be host to the Dalai Lama.
Brahma Chellaney, professor of strategic studies with the Center for Policy Research, in New Delhi, said that the trade route would strengthen the Chinese hold on Tibet.
"This is the route that the Dalai Lama took when he fled from Tibet in 1959," he said. "The date of the opening of the pass was fixed by the Chinese, and it's no coincidence that this is happening on 71st birthday of the Dalai Lama."
Official exchanges between the two sides have been warming steadily. Prime Minister Wen Jiabao of China told a visiting Indian parliamentary delegation Tuesday that Beijing wanted the two countries to share growth and prosperity, the official Xinhua press agency reported. "Only if we two countries become strong can we talk about the era of Asia and can we contribute to human progress," Wen was quoted as saying.
A spokesman for the Ministry of External Affairs in India said: "It is a very important development given the history of relations between the two countries. It is in keeping with the steady development of Indo-Chinese relations and is a reflection of the determination of both countries to improve their relationship."
Nathu-la is about 460 kilometers from the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, and 550 kilometers from Calcutta.
The pass, which once accounted for up to 80 percent of commerce between the two countries, is unlikely to have an immediate impact on the overall trading relationship.
Under agreements reached between the two governments in the early 1990s, border trade is restricted to areas close to the agreed crossing points.
Trade in markets on each side of the border at Nathu-la are also restricted to 29 items from India, including textiles, agricultural tools, liquor, tobacco, cooking oil and rice. From China, traders can sell 15 items, including livestock, wool, animal skins and silk.
Amelia Gentleman reported from New Delhi.
BEIJING China and India reopened an ancient Himalayan border pass Thursday, symbolizing how burgeoning trade and warming political ties between the rising Asian giants are gradually eroding bitter historical enmities.
The Nathu-la Pass, once part of the ancient Silk Road that linked China and India, was reopened for local trade 44 years after it was shut during a brief but fierce border war.
The mountain pass, at a height of 4,545 meters, or 14,910 feet, connects Yadong County in Tibet with the northeast Indian state of Sikkim.
Signboards warning "You are under enemy observation now" have been replaced by notices declaring in Chinese: "Please come here. We are very good friends," Indian media reported.
After painstaking negotiations, Beijing and New Delhi have resumed trade at three remote passes along their 3,500-kilometer, or 2,175-mile, frontier, although major sections of the border remain in dispute.
Trade and political analysts on both sides say the agreement to expand border commerce demonstrates how a joint commitment to economic cooperation is reducing the importance of longstanding territorial disputes between the two countries.
"This is an indicator of the growing economic relationship between India and China," said Yan Xuetong, an international relations specialist at Tsinghua University in Beijing. "Both sides are hungry for trade."
The pass opening coincided with the birthday of the Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, who has lived in exile in India since 1959.
Broadcasting footage of local officials exchanging silk scarves at the world's highest trading post, Indian media heralded this as a new beginning for Chinese-Indian relations.
Some analysts say the parallel rise of China and India has the potential to reshape the global economic and political order, particularly if the two nuclear-armed powers can avoid strategic competition or further conflict.
Regular high-level exchanges in recent years have allowed them to overcome much of the mutual suspicion arising from the border war in 1962.
Economic links that languished for decades after the war are now booming. Two-way trade last year soared 37.5 percent to $18.7 billion, according to Chinese government figures. Trade this year is expected to easily surpass the $20 billion mark, a target both governments have set for 2008.
Both sides have made concessions - some discreetly - so that territorial disagreements do not dominate the relationship.
Indian analysts said the opening of the crossing sealed Beijing's acceptance of the tiny, remote region of Sikkim - nestled between Nepal and the kingdom of Bhutan, high in the Himalayas - as an Indian state.
The dispute over this once-independent principality, which was annexed by India in 1975 and subsequently claimed by China, represented a thorn in bilateral relations until last year, when Beijing finally recognized the Indian annexation as part of talks to improve relations between the two countries.
"I am very happy," the chief minister of Sikkim, Pawan Kumar Chamling, told local media, adding that he hoped it would be a watershed in relations between the two countries. "My long- cherished dream is being fulfilled."
Muchkund Dubey, an academic specializing in Southeast Asian studies and a former foreign secretary of India, said the opening was an important step forward in relations between the two countries despite the continued presence of other areas of tension. "Sikkim was a symbol of war," he said. "With the opening of this pass, China now recognizes the state of Sikkim as part of India.
"There are still unresolved problems. There is an ongoing border question and India remains concerned about China's role in South Asia, as the most important source of military supply to the countries in the region, and the impact this has on the balance of power."
New Delhi, for its part, has officially recognized Chinese sovereignty over Tibet, despite continuing to be host to the Dalai Lama.
Brahma Chellaney, professor of strategic studies with the Center for Policy Research, in New Delhi, said that the trade route would strengthen the Chinese hold on Tibet.
"This is the route that the Dalai Lama took when he fled from Tibet in 1959," he said. "The date of the opening of the pass was fixed by the Chinese, and it's no coincidence that this is happening on 71st birthday of the Dalai Lama."
Official exchanges between the two sides have been warming steadily. Prime Minister Wen Jiabao of China told a visiting Indian parliamentary delegation Tuesday that Beijing wanted the two countries to share growth and prosperity, the official Xinhua press agency reported. "Only if we two countries become strong can we talk about the era of Asia and can we contribute to human progress," Wen was quoted as saying.
A spokesman for the Ministry of External Affairs in India said: "It is a very important development given the history of relations between the two countries. It is in keeping with the steady development of Indo-Chinese relations and is a reflection of the determination of both countries to improve their relationship."
Nathu-la is about 460 kilometers from the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, and 550 kilometers from Calcutta.
The pass, which once accounted for up to 80 percent of commerce between the two countries, is unlikely to have an immediate impact on the overall trading relationship.
Under agreements reached between the two governments in the early 1990s, border trade is restricted to areas close to the agreed crossing points.
Trade in markets on each side of the border at Nathu-la are also restricted to 29 items from India, including textiles, agricultural tools, liquor, tobacco, cooking oil and rice. From China, traders can sell 15 items, including livestock, wool, animal skins and silk.
Amelia Gentleman reported from New Delhi.
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Such things do not come about unless there is sufficient self confidence and mutual trust betwee the two sides.</b>
<b>Ravish Ji :</b>
I would agree â though not entirely - with you of Indiaâs ongoing dialogue with China.
In this respect the following excerpts from an Article in the Dawn â Pakistanâs Premier English Newspaper â wherein the reference to Kolkota might bring heavy rain on Indiaâs Western Neighbourâs Parade :
<b>China considering extension of Lhasa rail to Indian border</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>GANGTOK (India), July 7: China plans to extend its railway linking Beijing to Tibet to a newly opened border point in Indiaâs northeast and possibly link it to Indiaâs eastern coast, the Chinese envoy to New Delhi said on Friday.
Ambassador Sun Yuxiâs comments</b> came a day after the two countries reopened an ancient, Himalayan trading route, once part of the Silk Road, adding impetus to booming bilateral trade 44 years after the link was snapped when they fought a brutal border war.
âOnce trade starts, people will demand better transportation facilities,â Sun told Reuters in an interview in Gangtok, capital of the tiny Indian state of Sikkim, joined to Tibet through the Nathu La pass on the border.
<b>Beijing had decided to first extend the railway to Lhasa, inaugurated last week, to the Tibetan city of Shigatse and then to Yadung, Sun said.</b>
âFrom Yadung, the Indian border area is only a few dozens of kilometres away,â he said.
On the Indian side, New Delhi planned to build a railway to Sikkim and once complete, the missing rail link between India and China would be less than 100kms, the envoy said.
<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>âThen, anytime we feel the need we will link it ... we are expecting to ... if the train got through all the way to Kolkata, that will be something. Lots of potential, opportunities will develop there,â Mr Sun said.</span></b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Ravish Ji :</b> One could say <b>Gwadar - Quo Vadis?</b>
B T W : I was on a flying visit to India and noticed you passing in a Volkswagen Car!
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Let me ask you all,
Today US is super power or super Police on earth.
What will happen when this will be replaced by China?
At this stage on world affair, China stays away from every conflict, sometimes do lip service to regional affair. US trying China to get involved, within next decade China will be forced to act or react.
Right now every group who wants to show power act against US,
How China will react if they face US type of terrorist attack?
How that will affect India?
The old Chinese proverb goes that "one mountain cannot accomodate two tigers", and Indians also have a common saying "a strong neighbor is a natural enemy" . As China and India, two regional leading nations, are eagerly pursuing their dream of becoming a worldpower. It gives us food for thought: Are they doomed to be opponents ?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b> China clash as church demolished</b>
<b>There have been clashes between police and Christians protesting against the demolition of a church in eastern China's Zhejiang province, </b>reports say.
<b>The violence occurred when up to 500 police tried to break up a 3,000-strong protest, a rights group said.</b>
Twenty people were hurt, including four who were seriously injured, the Hong Kong-based Information Centre for Human Rights and Democracy said.
A police official confirmed an incident had taken place on Saturday.
He told the French news agency AFP that the church in the suburb of Xiaoshan had had to be destroyed.
"It is clear that this church was an illegal structure, it did not have the approval of the religious affairs bureau or the government," he said.
A local state newspaper, the Hangzhou Daily, reported the <b>demolition of an "illegal building".
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"A tiny handful of people with ulterior motives incited members of the public who did not know the facts," the paper said.
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<b>Xiaoshan, a suburb of the provincial capital Hangzhou, has a sizeable community of Protestants.
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The rights group said the provincial authorities had issued orders in June to crack down on "illegal religious buildings".
But one resident suggested the move was less about religious freedom than money.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>From sky, see how China builds model of Indian border 2400 km away</b>
Shiv AroorPosted online: Saturday, August 05, 2006 at 0000 hrs
Defence: <b>Satellite images show Aksai Chin terrain replicated,
with peaks, for possible troop exercises</b>
NEW DELHI, AUGUST 4:The discovery of what is considered a military establishment in China's Northern plains by a Google Earth user from Germany has kicked up a storm on the Net's strategic forums. Here's why: The establishment, snapped from Google's free satellite imagery software, houses a startlingly accurate scale model of a highly sensitive stretch of the disputed Sino-Indian border.
<img src='http://indianexpress.com/res/i/mediumImages/M_Id_2286.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
A careful study of the model, located at a large military complex in China's Huangyangtan province, likely used for training and familiarisation of troops, helicopters and infantry vehicles, shows that it is built to scale based on a stretch 2,400 km away along the Aksai Chin area bordering Ladakh, part of the stretch through which invading Chinese forces entered in the 1962 war.
The facility, full with uncharacteristic and man-made snow peaks, glacial lakes and snow riftsâironically in the middle of an arid plainâis flanked by a large military depot with buildings and at least a hundred military trucks.
The Army did not confirm that it was aware of the facility, but officially told The Indian Express, "Militaries are always known to simulate potential conflict zones as a standard practice. There is absolute peace and tranquility on the border with China, a disputed border that the two governments are resolving through peaceful dialogue. It is nothing alarming, these are standard training methodologies."
Off the record, though, an officer currently with the Quarter Master General branch, but who has served along the border with Aksai Chin, said,<b> "We knew that they had some facilities for this purpose but the scale and detail is something new to us."</b>
The sense is that economic development near the border and a quiet, but progressive peace dialogue to end the border dispute notwithstanding, the PLA is keeping its forces well in touch with potential conflict zonesâ especially Aksai Chin, strategically important to Beijing since it houses crucial road heads and Demchok, one of the principally disputed zones.
The image could be anything between six months and two years old, proving that training on disputed terrain is still very much part of the PLA's war doctrine.
shiv.aroor@expressindia.com
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http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/chinese-...3593217781.html
<img src='http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/20/googlearth1_wideweb__470x283,0.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<b>Satellite images show Aksai Chin terrain replicated, with peaks, for possible troop exercises</b>
08-05-2006, 05:05 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-05-2006, 05:06 PM by Husky.)
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Chilling.
Is China's communist government planning for a possible war scenario, or expecting to start one?
<img src='http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/19/huangyangtan_comparison.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/19/hu...tery/page2.html
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Looks like they have some sort of plan or at least they train their recruits. I checked whole area. It is heavily militarized. One can see lot of military truck or some sort of vehicles. They have spent big chunck on this place, which is near to no where.
what give China this supreme sense of entitlement to expect india to jump to its request to start trade to make their railway project profitable? They probably figure that their lapdogs, the indian commies, will put pressure on govt to expedite the trade process.
Also, does this mean that China has lost hopes on the Ghadar port that they think Kolkatta is a better bet? As they say in Tamil, better to fall at the feet of the opponent than the feet of the witness!
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->China wants India to hasten boom at Nathu LaÂ
Shobori Ganguli | Lhasa
With Tibet riding the crest of economic reforms and development, the Chinese Government is pulling out all stops to facilitate investment and smoothen tourist traffic into this region. After the Qinghai-Tibet railway and the opening of the Nathu La pass last month, therefore, Beijing is now looking to relax a provision as per which travellers to Tibet must seek special permits from the Chinese Government.
"As part of our decision to open up to the outside world we are planning to abolish this permit," said Mr Hao Peng, Deputy Chairman of Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) here on Thursday. Aware that despite the train and road routes into the Tibetan heartland special permits are a severe deterrent for investors and tourists alike, Beijing is now coming around to the view that such roadblocks ought to be removed if its opening up policy is to see the clear light of day.
On another front, however, Chinese officials are visibly restive with India's reluctance to allow unbridled trade across the recently inaugurated pass. This impatience was in clear display during Mr Hao's interaction with the Indian media delegation here. As in-charge of TAR's economic revival, Mr Hao appeared particularly distressed with India's go-slow attitude on the trade of unlimited items.
Pointing to the "historic significance" of the opening of Nathu La, the Deputy Chairman expressed regret that India has imposed restrictions on the goods to be traded according to which only 29 items can be imported from India while only 17 can be exported from China. "India does not even allow Chinese traders to stay overnight at the pass," Mr Hao complained.
The official's disappointment is understandable as he has been mandated with the task of boosting Tibet's tourism-dependent economy which is currently rated as one of the weakest links vis-Ã -vis China's national figures.
With an eye on the 1000-km trade corridor from Lhasa to Kolkata port, China is very optimistic about the economic potential of the South Asian market and is aware that the Nathu La pass is an immense gateway to that market. Therefore, India's reluctance to let down its guard on that front is an obvious irritant for officials like Mr Hao.
On its part, India cannot overlook the veil of suspicion that has rested on this border with China since 1962. With national security concerns far outweighing economic considerations, euphoric enthusiasm is predictably missing on the Indian side of the border.
As for China, "We welcome all goods as long as they do not violate the law," said Mr Hao. Disappointed with the current volume of traffic, the official pointed out that since the opening of the pass, border trade has been a measly US$ 15,000, far below the expected potential of this route. However, given the reservations of the Indian security forces, it will be a while before border trade assumes the speed China ideally desires.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>China crosses border again, this time for I-Day </b>
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Sanat K Chakraborty | Bomla (AP)
Move over Nathu La. Bomla is the new talking point of Hindi-Chini bonhomie.
Located at over 15,000 ft, Bomla lies on the historic road from Tawang to Lhasa, the seat of Tibetan politico-religious administration that runs over 490 kms.
Since 1999, Indians and Chinese on both sides of the border have build up their relationship through symbolic gestures such as inviting officers and soldiers along with their families to one another's National Day celebrations.Â
Indian and Chinese delegates stand in front of the Bomla Hut at Bomla during Independence Day celebration - Utpal Baruah
'The renewal of bonhomie' has been an annual event since 1999 between the officers and soldiers of both the Indian and the Chinese army. And why not, asks Brig Sanjay Kulkarni. Bomla, where the Indian soldiers fought bravely to halt the Chinese invasion, has not heard any gun shot since the eighties.
Usually, the officers meet four times a year in what is termed as Border Personnel Meeting (BPM) at alternate venue on both sides of the Indo-China border. The Chinese officers and soldiers along with their families are invited to join the Independence Day celebrations at Bomla to spend some time together.
"We also reciprocate the same way on the 1st October, the Chinese National Day," Brig Kulkarni said. "This is one of the confidence building measures that we are pursuing. It helps," he claimed.
This year too, the Chinese delegation was led by Col Li Ming, ARV, who was received at the<b> Heap of Stones, a sacred spot where, it is believed, one can throw a stone on the heap and make a wish. Lt Col Lalit Rai, a Kargil veteran with a Veer Chakra walked the Chinese delegation at the BPM venue, where the officers joined Brig Kulkarni at the flag hoisting ceremony</b>.
This was followed by a cultural show organised for the visitors and exchange of gifts and pleasantries. Both the sides made brief statements in which they expressed their resolve to promote lasting goodwill and friendship.
Col Ming while congratulating the Indian Army for hosting such a wonderful event said: "May the prosperity of the two nations be ever lasting".Â
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>China may dump products through Nathula: Buddhadeb </b>
Kolkata, Aug. 20 (PTI): The West Bengal government on Saturday expressed apprehension that China might dump large quantities of its products through the Nathula trade route, posing a threat to the state's traditional industries, especially silk. <!--emo&  --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"After the opening of Nathula, perhaps they will now want to use the Kolkata port. They will also dump their products on a large-scale in the state. This will be disastrous," Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee told a workshop on schemes and programmes for development of micro and small industries.
Noting that West Bengal's raw silk industry particularly faced a threat from China, where silk production is highly mechanised, Bhattacharjee said his government was setting up a task force to upgrade silk manufacturing technology.
"China is not willing to part with its technology. So I have spoken to Japan. (State government agency) Webcon has also submitted a report on the matter," he said.
Pointing out that China had achieved an economic "miracle" by strengthening its small and medium enterprises, Bhattacharjee said his government was trying to "save" the state's economy and create more job opportunities.
Lauding the Central government for enacting a law to define micro, small and medium industries, Bhattacharjee said the state government has formed a task force to frame specific rules to implement this law.
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<b>an indo-china blog launched!</b>
Hello, there. Im a Chinese student enthusiastic about indo-china ties, and wish to be actively engaged in the public diplomacy of the two country.
recently I ve launched a blog regarding issues about india and china titled "Oh Chindia", i hope that this blog is to be a windows for indians on how chinese and china's media see indian.
welcome you, guys from india!
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>iwumuyi: No plugging personal blogs here. Feel free to share Indo-Chinese issues at India-Forum
- Admin</span>
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<b>India shuts ports to Chinese companies</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->MUMBAI: After close to a year of intense debate, the Indian government has decided it does not want the Chinese investing in, or managing any Indian port.
The first company to bear the brunt of this decision will be Hong Kong-based Hutchison Port Holdings (HPH), the largest independent port operator in the world. The company has been waiting for security clearances before it could go ahead with <b>its bids to build container terminals for Mumbai and Chennai at Rs 1,200 crore and Rs 494 crore respectively. The decision also eliminates future Chinese participation in 13 ports planned across the country at a cost of Rs 61,000 crore</b>.
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<span style='color:red'>Rise of India-China and their cooperation predicted in Bible?</span>
With its newfound power, India faces a dilemma: Should it ultimately pursue closer ties with Western nations, or with other Asian countries?
After India gained independence, its first prime minister spoke of an Asian renaissance, envisioning a tightly bound continent changing the post-World War II landscape. Though premature at the time, the idea is now more feasible than any time since the Cold War era. Along with the improving relations with China, India is also friendly with Russia and Japan. And, as of 2004, the value of Indiaâs trade with other Asian nations surpassed that of exchange with the United States and Western Europe put together (International Herald Tribune).
But the United Statesâafter courting Indiaâs arch-rival Pakistan as an ally in the war on terror after the September 11 attacksâis now distancing itself somewhat from the current Islamabad regime led by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, focusing on India instead. Indiaâs common ground with the U.S. includes liberal democratic government, capitalism and, among the more educated urban residents, the English language.
However, Americaâs courting of India is viewed by some as a way to limit and contain Chinese influence in Asia. Some Indians resent this perception of their nation as a pawn of the U.S. Though they appreciate the American lifestyle and culture, much of the Indian population still sees this lone superpower as a bully.
While it may be able to dance with both partners alternately for a while, India will eventually be forced to choose. Which way will this nation turn?
<span style='color:red'>âKings of the Eastâ</span>
We need not merely guess where world events will ultimately lead. While many of the details remain to be seen, the overall framework of the future has been recorded in advance in one bookâthe Holy Bible.
In nations such as India, the size of population alone pulls them toward superpower status. Bible prophecy describes global power blocsâsuperpowers, or groups of superpowersâthat will be prominent at the end of the age, shortly before Jesus Christ returns.
These powers will be based in the north (Europe), the south (the Arab world), and the âkings of the Eastââa group of Asian nations that will band together, eventually fielding a standing army of two hundred million (Revelations 16:12; 9:16; Dan. 11)!
The nations of the West, including the United States, are headed for hard times as a result of their national and personal sins against the God that inspired the Bible. He reveals that they will be forsaken by their allies, called âloversâ in Scripture:
âAnd when you are spoiled, what will you do? Though you clothe yourself with crimson, though you deck yourself with ornaments of gold, though you rend your face with painting, in vain shall you make yourself fair; your lovers will despise you, they will seek your lifeâ¦All your lovers have forgotten you; they seek you not; for I have wounded you with the wound of an enemy, with the chastisement of a cruel one, for the multitude of your iniquity; because your sins were increasedâ (Jer. 4:30; 30:14).
India is today one of these âlovers,â but one that will soon prove to be something very different. So will other nations that Western countries now consider to be allies.
Keep watching Indiaâs growth toward superpower status â part 1 of the inevitable rise of Asia!
http://www.realtruth.org/articles/0403-ias...CFQFTUAodex9i9Q
Interesting to read. Very accurate in many ways, but this obsession with armageddon is flawed. Nothing in the Universe is linear and just terminates, it's cyclical.
Now that India is approaching the Vedic rate of economic growth, more people are starting to notice.
Also the Aryan migration/ invasion that's happening around the world is spreading Hindu culture.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>China honours Kalidasa</b>
9/16/2006 12:23:20 PMÂ HK
Coming close on the heels of numerous controversies in India it is interesting to note that one of India's strongest neighbour and a country seen as a possible security threat <b>has decided to put up a statue of the great sanskrit poet Kalidasa as one of the people to have luminaries to have influenced modern China</b>.
Very few states in India itself can boast of having any thing to pay homage to the great writer. In this age when the word Sanskrit means Communal in India,its quite interesting to see the respect shown by China.
The other Indians who are being honoured are Gandhi, Nehru and Tagore.It is probably India's curse that we do not see or acknowledge the pearls we have have within us and look to the west to enlighten us. In India we are even going to the extend of removing statues and photos of great freedom fighters in the name of petty politics.
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