Islamism - 5

11-15-2006, 08:10 AM

Nov. 13, 2006, 7:45AM
Pastor's suicide is seen as protest against Islam
It is the latest event in a growing conflict between Christians and Muslims in Europe
By BRIAN MURPHY
Associated Press

ERFURT, GERMANY - We know this much: The 73-year-old pastor's last sermon focused on his fear that Christian Europe would be overwhelmed by Islam.

A few weeks later, at one of the most important Lutheran landmarks, the Rev. Roland Weisselberg soaked himself in gasoline and set himself ablaze.

He left no suicide note, and the meaning of his final words is still the subject of conjecture.

But in a time when Christians and Muslims in Europe lurch from one crisis to the next, the retired Lutheran minister is being proclaimed a self-martyr â the latest victim in a growing conflict between the cross and the crescent.

"What's sad is that many people are so quick to believe that he killed himself to protest Islam. They want to believe it," said Bishop Christoph Kaehler, who leads the German Protestant Church in the eastern Thuringia state, which includes historic Erfurt, where the 16th-century Reformation trailblazer Martin Luther took his first religious vows.

"Weisselberg has become a magnet for fears and suspicions about Muslims," Kaehler said. "It's an unfortunate lesson in how tense things have become."

Germany has felt that uneasiness in many ways recently.

Last month, a Turkish-born lawmaker sought protection from death threats after calling Islamic head scarves a symbol of oppression of women.

In Berlin, an opera company has become Europe's latest freedom of expression flash point. A planned production of Mozart's Idomeneo outraged Muslims with a scene depicting the severed heads of the Prophet Muhammad along with other religious figures.

Not a bystander

Pope Benedict XVI used a speech at a German university in September to decry violent trends in Islam, setting off a maelstrom of protests around the world. The German pontiff is scheduled to begin a visit to Turkey on Nov. 28 in his first papal trip to a mostly Muslim nation.

Weisselberg was not a silent bystander. He wrote letters to newspapers, venting on a range of topics. Most were packaged around his belief that European Christians had become too meek and separated from the faith's bold history.

In his last sermon in late September â called from retirement to fill in for an absent minister â Weisselberg said Christians in Europe must unite or risk being overrun by Islam in generations to come.

Then, on Oct. 31, he walked through the stone arches of the St. Augustine Monastery, a place where from 1505 to 1511 Luther lived, studied and took monastic vows.

Weisselberg pulled out a canister of gasoline hidden under his coat. An instant later, he was ablaze. Witnesses told authorities he cried two words: "Jesus" and "Oskar" â considered a reference to the Rev. Oskar Bruesewitz, who set himself on fire in 1976 as an apparent protest against the communist East German regime.

Left behind letter

Weisselberg died the following day. No formal suicide note was found. But his widow told a church official that her husband left behind a letter describing his angst over Islam's rising power in Europe.

Within hours, Weisselberg' s story was being told and retold as an act of self-martyrdom.

Anti-Muslim groups across Europe have exalted his name. Christian Web sites have given him top billing â in a repeat of the global cyber-eulogies for an Italian missionary, Sister Leonella Sgorbati, who was gunned down in Somalia in September in possible retaliation to the pope's comments on Islam.

11-15-2006, 10:06 AM

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FYI,
Dr. Babu Suseelan is regular India-forum front page writer.
QUOTEHindu perspective on Terrorism-Las Vegas Symposium
Hindus in India have witnessedÂ unprecedented barbarism at the hands of Islamic militants since 8th century. Tracing Indiaâs History, Dr. Suseelan said that in AD 712 Governor of Iraq had instructed to bring destruction on the unbeliever Hindus ofÂ India, if they did not accept the rule of Allah.Â Slaughter of Hindus continued for three days.Â 26,000 men were mercilessly murdered, and 20,000 women were captured and sent to Khalif in Bagdad

Eleventh century also saw the barbaric assault of Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni on Hindustan starting in 1000 CE. He launched 17 plundering, looting and slave-taking expeditions to India. Abu Nasr Muhammad Utbi, Sultan Mahmudâs secretary, gloats in his official chronicle that after attacking Waihind in November 1001 CE, Mahmudâs army slaughtered 15,000 fighting men in âsplendid actionâ before capturing 500,000 men and women as slaves.

At the time of Indiaâs Partition, reign of rape, murder and loot was unleashed against Hindu-Sikh population of Pakistan.Â They were ethnically cleansed from each and every city of Pakistan.Â In 1971, ten million Hindus were driven from East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).Â In 1989-1990, 400,000 Hindus from Indian Kashmir were given two choices by Islamic terrorists:Â accept Islam or leave the country.Â In an article dated July 24, 2006, M.A. Khan of Islam Watch mentions thatÂ effective displacement of 30 million Hindus took place in 1947 and 1971.Â However, it is a matter of regret and disgrace that biggest exodus in the world history took place in 1947 and 1971, and no historian took note of it.Â

In his forceful half-hour speech, Dr. Babu Suseelan, squarely blamed Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Islamic theories ofÂ Dar-ul-Islam (Islamic nation) and Dar-ul-Harab (enemy nation), incomprehensible antediluvian religious teachings of Seventh Century, for the spread of jihad and terrorism all over the world.

The following dignitaries spoke on the occasion: Paul Schiffer (Editor), Walid Shoebat (A reformed PLO Terrorist), Dr. Wafa Sultan (Psychiatrist), Robert Spencer, author, Director, Jihad Watch), Dr. Bruce Tefft (Former CIA Counter Terrorism Expert), Dr. Harvey Kushner, Professor, Dr. Paul Williams (Foremr FBI Consultant), and Ray Hoffman (Front Page Magazine).

ramana · 11-15-2006, 08:15 PM

Mudy there is a special reason why the Gov of Iraq gave that order. I read somewhere that the main supporters of Ali's sons were Hindu rulers. google for Mohiyals.

11-15-2006, 09:00 PM

Are you talking about "Dutt" last name and story created by Yoginder Sikand?

11-17-2006, 07:34 AM

History of Jihad against the Hindus of India(638 - 1857) 
http://www.historyofjihad.org/india.html

QUOTEThe History of Jihad site is brought to you by a panel of contributors. ThisÂ
site is co-ordinated by Robin MacArthur with Mahomet Mostapha and Naim alÂ
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11-17-2006, 07:43 AM

Ideology is al Qaeda's Achilles' heel - U.S. study

Bharatvarsh · 11-17-2006, 09:11 PM

Must watch video:
QUOTEThe Grand Mufti & Hitler, and Palestinian Genocide of Jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nnbmVtZ0QY

Sunder · 11-17-2006, 10:28 PM

QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Nov 17 2006, 09:11 PM)Must watch video:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEThe Grand Mufti & Hitler, and Palestinian Genocide of Jews

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Watch the clip from minute 5:00 to 5:05. Mullah says "Islam is superior!! then the Jews, then the Christians, then the Buddhists, then the Hindus."

11-17-2006, 10:53 PM

Part - II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rio8gpIAWEg...related&search=

agnivayu · (This post was last modified: 11-18-2006, 02:49 AM by agnivayu.)

If this jihadist pig tries to convert me, I will shove a hairy camel up his behind.

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Watch the clip from minute 5:00 to 5:05. Mullah says "Islam is superior!! then the Jews, then the Christians, then the Buddhists, then the Hindus."

11-19-2006, 03:01 AM

Dutch to ban wearing of burqa in public QUOTEAmsterdam, November 18: The Dutch government agreed on Friday a total ban on the wearing of burqas and other Muslim face veils in public, justifying the move on security grounds.
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"The cabinet finds it undesirable that garments covering the face -- including the burqa -- should be worn in public in view of public order, (and) the security and protection of fellow citizens," the Dutch Justice Ministry said in a statement.

11-19-2006, 07:31 PM

QUOTEDr. Niqab - Comedy or Tragedy?

Author: Yasmin Amin
Publication: Desicritics.org
Date: November 13, 2006
URL: http://desicritics.org/2006/11/13/171520.php

My doctors suggested pneumonia vaccine for me. I suffer from Asthma and with winter approaching this was a sensible precaution.

After running around all over the place trying to get the vaccine for several days, I had to admit my defeat. My doctor advised me to try getting it from Vacsera. Vacsera is a government owned company that works under the umbrella of the Ministry of Health and has a department which specializes in producing and supplying vaccines and serums. Happy to get some pointers I went to get my vaccine.

Being a government owned company I was confronted with bureaucracy and red tape and sent from one counter to another, one room to the next, receiving slips of paper to be signed and stamped and what not, but that is not why I am writing this. Finally after about half an hour I was sent to the last room to get the vaccine with the added bonus of getting the injection right then and there to avoid transportation issues.

I walked happily into the room where three nurses were chatting animatedly. I was informed that the doctor will be there momentarily. Before the sentence was complete, something entered the room. It was a bit of a shock to me to see this mass of black!

A black niqab, where even the two tiny holes where the eyes would be were covered in black gauze, entered the room. Thick black gloves sticking out of two wristbands attached to the shapeless black garb, tightly fastened, allowing only the black gloved hands up to the wrists to escape the dark cloud were placed the right hand on top of the left one on the chest, as if in a silent prayer. Only a faintly menacing air escaped. I sighed and thought, even God would have difficulty in peering through that entire black sinister garb all the way through to her heart.

I started wondering how this woman was going to get her injection and where she would start to unravel the various black layers to bare an arm. But before I could complete my imaginative answer to that question in my head, the three nurses said in unison: "good morning doctor." I should have taken the first opportunity to escape, because I didn't think for even a split second that this was the doctor everyone was waiting for. Doctor? This perfect image of the angel of death is a life giving healing angel of mercy? A doctor!

For a few more panicky minutes I was trying to figure a way to flee without insulting the doctor and making a complete fool of myself. The shapeless formless black niqab rattled down a few question with a very low and muffled voice, almost a like a strangled whisper of a machine gun staccato: "name, age, type of vaccine."

I was too speechless to answer and my mind was racing frantically in dread, trying to come up with a dignified way to flee from this scene, which more and more resembled a farce from a surreal play. I mumbled and stuttered my name and age to the black back, as she had turned towards a closet. In utter shock and complete terror I witnessed her extracting a pair of latex gloves from the closet and putting them on, right over the thick black woolen gloves she was wearing when she came in. I just couldn't believe this and more and more the surreal farce was turning towards becoming a horror movie. To me it seemed like trying to do open heart surgery while wearing welding gloves and a deep sea diving suit.

Before I could pull myself together and run away, the latex gloves snatched the box with my precious vaccine from me and proceeded to 'load' the injection. I managed to stammer something that sounded like: "I will take that back thank you, I have to go home now." The barely audible muted whisper answered me with a long lecture of which I could only make out a few words, sounding like: "...out of the refrigerator...not more than 20 minutes...transportation...on ice... not allowed to freeze...better here and right now...only a minute...over before you know it...no need to be afraid."

This torrent of words washed over me while I was trying to seize my valuable vaccine from the double gloved clutches of the black creature and murmuring defiantly: "How can you even feel what you're doing with those thick gloves on under the others, I simply refuse..."

Alas, it was too late and I watched wide-eyed as the prized yellowish vaccine was being sucked into the syringe held by that black creature. My resistance faded into nothingness as that black being, now dangerously armed, suddenly and very forcefully grabbed my arm and 'shot' - the vaccine right into it.

The black niqab then turned to the next victim and I was free to go. I almost ran out, happy to have escaped with only a pitiless poke. I will spare you all the now boring and tedious debate about the niqabs, but I have come to understand how it feels like to stand opposite a faceless black creature with a muffled voice and hardly a personal indication of any kind hinting at the humanity and compassion of a doctor, let alone the gender or the living person. The only thought which was in my head now was that this was more a graveside manner than a bedside manner, specially when clad in that monstrous outfit. An Arab proverb eloquently puts it as: "so sad, that it becomes funny."

Yasmin Amin is a bibliophile living in Cairo, with interests relating to religious studies and Middle Eastern history

http://www.hvk.org/

Although the situation is quite hilarious (or at least the way the writer puts it), I can imagine the terror that one would feel when presented with a fully shrouded entity in all black, with eyes that glitter through a slit or peephole, and then being told that this is the 'angel of mercy!' Shudder

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-22-2006, 04:36 PM by Husky.)

Sorry for interrupting this thread. Just had a few remarks and questions on the following and could keep it to myself no longer:
QUOTE(k.ram @ Nov 15 2006, 08:10 AM)Nov. 13, 2006, 7:45AM
Pastor's suicide is seen as protest against Islam
It is the latest event in a growing conflict between Christians and Muslims in Europe
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QUOTEA few weeks later, at one of the most important Lutheran landmarks, the Rev. Roland Weisselberg soaked himself in gasoline and set himself ablaze.According to their own rigid and unforgiving religion, this pastor is heading straight for their hell: suicide is punished by eternal damnation in that loving religion of christianity, after all. I've seen many sermon yawn-fests on TV (televangelism) about the hellish 'life' in store for people who commit suicide. Didn't the pastor know this?
Was he confused about which religion he actually adherred to? If not, then why did he mimick Buddhism, where protest against monumental injustice is carried out by Buddhist monks setting fire to themselves? For example, this was a regular occurrence in Buddhist Vietnam when it was under ruthless christian dictatorship .
And don't christos regularly take the 'moral' 'high-ground' when it comes to the act of Sati (where Hindu women and, at times, Hindu men voluntary immolate themselves) and denounce it as nothing less than the demonic nature of Hinduism?
Christos ought to stop copy-catting the loftier methods of the very religions they have insulted throughout christo history.

The only burning that christos are allowed to do - and which is acceptable in their religion - is that of other people, never of themselves. Auto Da Fe's are in fact prescribed, since the holy church prides itself on never shedding blood on itself (it must 'not taint itself with blood'): that's why the holy actions it undertook against individuals often involved burning the victims, like during the early inquisitions and the witch hunts.

Also, it has long been traditional christo belief that the pastor ought to be buried facing his buried flock, so that when all rise on the imaginary day of judgement he may lead them to the gates of heaven. That's why burial is very important in christianity: no burial means no resurrection, no way to get into heaven. Hence christos opposed and often still oppose cremation, which they consider a demonic heathen practise, because cremation means there's no body to rise on that all-important day in christianism. Since this pastor would be mostly ashes now and so does not have a body to be resurrected on The Day, aren't his parishioners worried about what they will do without a guide when they finally become christo zombies on that occasion (unless christo doctrine has changed again in recent times)? Their very eternity in heaven might well be at stake, so I think his flock ought to be more worried about that than any islamic take-over of their temporary world.

Christo theology and tradition is just too funny, I find (when I manage to ignore the constant christoislamic terrorism throughout its history, that is).

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-23-2006, 02:51 AM by Husky.)

Islamic version of UnIntelligent Design, proving how 'scientific' islam is:
(Christoislamism: one religion, made up of two major denominations and numerous smaller ones)

Creation Vs Darwin Takes Muslim Twist
QUOTE23/11/2006
Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor

A lavishly illustrated "Atlas of Creation" is mysteriously turning up at schools and libraries in Turkey, proclaiming that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is the real root of terrorism.

Arriving unsolicited by post, the large-format tome offers 768 glossy pages of photographs and easy-to-read text to prove that God created the world with all its species.

At first sight, it looks like it could be the work of United States creationists, the Christian fundamentalists who believe the world was created in six days as told in the Bible.

But the author's name, Harun Yahya, reveals the surprise inside. This is Islamic creationism, a richly funded movement based in predominantly Muslim Turkey which has an influence US creationists could only dream of.

Creationism is so widely accepted here that Turkey placed last in a recent survey of public acceptance of evolution in 34 countries - just behind the United States.

"Darwinism is dead," said Kerim Balci of the Fethullah Gulen network, a moderate Islamic movement with many publications and schools but no link to the creationists who produced the atlas.

Scientists say pious Muslims in the government, which has its roots in political Islam, are trying to push Turkish education away from its traditionally secular approach.

Aykut Kence, biology professor at the Middle East Technical University in Ankara, said time for discussing evolution had been cut out of class schedules for the eighth grade this year.

"The students will just learn there is a theory called evolution defended by Darwin back in the 19th century," he said. "However, views of Islamic thinkers from the Middle Ages about evolution and creation have been included."

A Dose Of Religion 

Like the Bible, the Koran says God made the world in six days and fashioned the first man, Adam, from dust. Other details vary but the idea is roughly the same.

But unlike in the West, evolution theory has not undermined the traditional creation story for many Muslims.

"Science is hardly an issue in Turkey, therefore evolution could hardly have been an issue," said Celal Sengor, a geology professor at Istanbul Technical University.

Darwinism did become an issue during the left-versus-right political turmoil before a 1980 military coup because Communist bookshops touted Darwin's works as a complement to Karl Marx.

"It looked like Marx and Darwin were together, two long-bearded guys spreading ideas that make people lose their faith," said Istanbul journalist Mustafa Akyol.

After the coup, the conservative government thought a dose of religion could bolster the fight against the extreme left.

In 1985, a paragraph on creationism as an alternative to evolution was added to high school science textbooks and a US book "Scientific Creationism" was translated into Turkish.

In the early 1990s, leading US creationists came to speak at several anti-evolution conferences in Turkey.

Darwin And Terror 

Since then, a home-grown strain of anti-Darwinist books has developed with a clearly political message.

"Atlas of Creation" offers over 500 pages of splendid images comparing fossils with present-day animals to argue that Allah created all life as it is and evolution never took place.

Then comes a book-length essay arguing that Darwinism, by stressing the "survival of the fittest," has inspired racism, Nazism, communism and terrorism.

"The root of the terrorism that plagues our planet is not any of the divine religions, but atheism, and the expression of atheism in our times (is) Darwinism and materialism," it says. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' />

One Istanbul school unexpectedly received three copies recently. "It's very well done, with magnificent photos - a very stylish tool of creationist propaganda," said the headmaster, who asked not to be named.

The driving force behind these books is a reclusive Islamic teacher named Adnan Oktar who over the past decade has published a flood of books under the pseudonym Harun Yahya.

"Harun Yahya has managed to create a media-based and popular form of creationism," said Taner Edis, a Turkish-born physicist at Truman State University in Missouri.

Harun Yahya, which is probably a pool of writers, has turned out over 200 books in Turkish and translated many of them into 51 other languages.

Oktar, 50, appears on the group's Web site sporting a clipped beard and dapper suits. His works can be found in Islamic bookshops around the world and downloaded for free over the Internet.

Nobody seems to know how all this is funded. The Harun Yahya organization, based in Istanbul, declined to comment despite interview requests from Reuters.

Intelligent Design

Intelligent Design (ID), a more recent argument about life's origins that is championed by US Christian groups, may also be making the leap across the Atlantic.

ID says some organisms are too complex to have evolved without some superior cause, but avoids calling that cause God because that would ban it from US science textbooks.

Akyol, a Muslim believer who says Darwinism is incompatible with his faith, has been waging an uphill struggle to popularize ID here. But most Turks show no interest because they see no need to avoid naming God.

His lonely campaign got an unexpected boost last month when Education Minister Huseyin Celik hinted on television that he might want to see it added to Turkish textbooks.

"If it's wrong to say Darwin's theory should not be in the books because it is in line with atheist propaganda, we can't disregard intelligent design because it coincides with beliefs of monotheistic religions about creation," he told CNN Turk.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-24-2006, 04:17 AM by Husky.)

From online Dutch news paper 'Elsevier'.
Will translate any particular articles completely if anyone is interested.

QUOTE'Sharia law already completely implemented in the Netherlands'
Sat 7 Oct 2006

In huge numbers, Muslim parents in the Netherlands are letting their wills be drawn up according to sharia law. This determines that daughters get half of what sons receive. Dutch notaries are perforce going along with this, because according to the Dutch contract-rights this is allowed.QUOTEMember of Parliament, Geert Wilders (Group Wilders), calls it 'shocking' that muslim parents in the Netherlands are having wills drawn up 'in conformity with the islamic sharia law'. He has made known that he will be posing oral questions about this on Tudesday to Ernst Hirsch Ballin of Justice (CDA) (read also Wilders wants to stop 'tsunami of islamicisation').Original at http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/ar...n/ja/index.html

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-24-2006, 04:21 AM by Husky.)

(Full article)
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/buitenland/a...n/ja/index.html
QUOTEIslam-extremism is leading to Third World War
Sat 18 Nov 2006
If a means is not found soon to contain islamic-extremism, a Third World War is inevitable. So says general John Abizaid, commander of the American armed forces in the Middle-East.

During a lecture at Harvard in the American Cambridge, Abizaid compared the growth in the number of radical groupings with the rise of fascism in the twenties and thirties in Europe.

Fascism
Just like the rise of fascism led to the Second World War, muslim-extremism will eventually cause a Third World War. Something must be done very fast, otherwise it will be too late according to this high-placed American commander.

According to Abizaid, the extremists are profiting from the laconic stance of the west. They can operate from a safe refuge and develop weapons of mass destruction.

Islamicisation
Earlier this week, Marco Pastors of 'One Netherland' (?, probably political party) compared the islamicisation of The Netherlands with the advancing nazism in Germany in the twenties and thirties. Extremists determine the tone (agenda?) and the established order does nothing.

Just like against the increasingly radical nazis, politics (today) does not dare to act against the extremism that appears to be increasingly gaining the upper-hand in muslim circles. 'There might not be any islamic country occupying us, but there is a community were extreme characters are not dealt with,' said Pastors.

By Ingrid van der ChijsOriginal version at url

Bharatvarsh · 11-23-2006, 08:34 AM

QUOTEAfghanistan's hated Sikhs yearn for India

Reuters
Posted Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 09:31

Afghanistan: Forced to wear yellow patches in the days of the Taliban, the homesick Sikhs of Afghanistan still hide in back alleys and yearn for India.

In the Taliban's birthplace, the southern city of Kandahar, their children cannot go to school and locals stone or spit on the men in the streets, who mostly try to hide in the narrow alleys of the mud-brick older quarter of the city.

"We don't want to stay in Afghanistan," says 40-year-old Balwant Singh. "The locals tell us 'you are not from Afghanistan, go back to India'. Sometimes, they throw stones at us, the children. We feel we have to hide. I am even afraid to go to parts of the city."

Their gurdwara (place of worship), in Kandahar is a simple traditional yellow pole capped by the orange Nishan Sahib flag. It sits outside a stark prayer room in an obscure courtyard reachable only after knocking on two sets of unmarked heavy timber doors down a cramped mud-brick tunnel-way.

The pole does not rise above roof level, unlike the splendid gurdwaras across India where they tower above the temples and the countryside, visible for kilometres.

There are about 10 Sikh families in Kandahar - fewer than 50 people. Another 22 lonely men, all their families back in India, live as traders in the neighbouring province of Uruzgan, another Taliban stronghold.

Scattered

Similar numbers are scattered across Afghanistan, a strictly Islamic nation where most people do not recognise Sikhism's close links with Islam. (psy ops)

Founded about 600 years ago in the western plains of India, Sikhism combines elements of Hinduism and Islam. In the late 1980s, there were about 500,000 Sikhs scattered across Afghanistan, many here for generations.

The country's Islam was moderate, based on the Sunni Hanafi sect. Sikhs, Hindus and Jews were prominent in the economy, mainly as moneylenders - often underwriting the wars of various kings.

Most Sikhs, along with the country's handful of Hindus, came with the British from the Indian empire in the 19th century. But after the mujahideen civil war and the 1994 rise of the Taliban, most had fled by 1998.

In 2001, the Taliban ordered Sikhs, Hindus and other religious minorities to wear yellow patches, ostensibly so they would not be arrested by the religious police for breaking Taliban laws on the length of beards and other issues. It is not clear how widely the rule was enforced.

The Sikhs who have returned since, like those of Kandahar and Uruzgan, are mainly small-time traders who complain of the pittance they make here, but say it is more than India offers.

Most come from poor families who fled to Delhi when Britain arbitrarily divided its Indian empire into Muslim Pakistan and secular but mainly Hindu India in 1947, forever splitting the Sikh homeland, the fertile plains of the Punjab.

"We don't want to stay in Afghanistan. But we have no choice," says Santok Singh, 39, whose family is in New Delhi. Almost all have no papers or visas and are at the mercy of authorities in a country where corruption is rife - one of the biggest challenges to Afghanistan ever succeeding as a nation.

"They take our homes, they take our businesses," says Hem Singh, a 42-year-old trader from Uruzgan. "We can't do anything. "We have no rights."

Most of these men are general traders or pharmacists, forced to sell their goods cheaper than their Afghan competition to win business, they are too ashamed to tell their families what life is really like.

"We keep it secret," says Hem Singh. "We don't tell our families how bad our life here really is."

Scars of War

They cannot travel to Afghanistan via the fastest route through Pakistan because of the decades of enmity between New Delhi and Islamabad so they use alternative routes which can be difficult and sometimes dangerous.

In a cramped room in Kandahar, a dozen turbaned Sikh men drink Afghanistan's ubiquitous sugary green tea. Several show scars from bomb blasts suffered travelling the roads of the dangerous south to stock their shops or wholesale to Afghan traders too scared to travel themselves.

The resurgence of the Taliban is making their lives worse: the highways are more dangerous with a new spate of suicide bombings and a resurgence of fundamentalist Islam is making their differences from Afghans more pronounced.

The Taliban is the strongest it has been since US-led forces ousted its hardline government in 2001. This has been the bloodiest year since then, with more than 3,700 people killed, almost a third of them civilians.

"We are always afraid someone will kill us or hurt us because we are Sikh," says Sabrat Subir Singh, a 62-year-old trader from Uruzgan. "But what can we do? We need the money. "No one here is happy. We are angry and sad."

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/afghanistans-h...ia/26744-2.html
I hope Manmohan is listening.

11-23-2006, 08:38 AM

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=27493
Jews called 'accursed forever and ever'
Egyptian newspaper columnist to Hitler: 'If only you had done it, brother'

QUOTEHitler should have finished the job and rid the earth of the Jews' "evil andÂ
sin," states a column in Egypt's official newspaper.Â 

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Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-24-2006, 04:21 AM by Husky.)

http://www.elsevier.nl/dossierartikel/asp/...4023/index.html
'Terror in Europe' section, Sep 2006
QUOTEDanish terror suspects had French targets
The nine suspected terrorists who were caught by the the Danish police on Tuesday in all likelihood also had their eye on French targets. The suspects maintained close contacts with radical French imams.

(Image caption: Danish police investigates terrorism case)

The Danish authorities came upon the trail of the suspects because of the riots in the city Odense last April. These riots arose after the arrests of several radical French imams, who at that moment were visiting the migrants district Vollsmose. Since then, the youth in the mostly immigrant-inhabited quarter are being kept an eye on.

Last Tuesday, this led to the arrest of nine suspects (read 'Danish police have picked up nine suspects'). The Danish intelligence service discovered materials among the muslim youths with which explosives could be made.

Yesterday, a Danish court ruled that there was enough evidence against two suspects to lock them up. On the other hand, the police would quickly need to come up with harder evidence for five of the [other] suspects. Otherwise the court sees no reason to retain them for longer than a few days.

By Robert de WittOriginal version at url

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-24-2006, 04:24 AM by Husky.)

Two related articles:

http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/ar...4117/index.html
QUOTERadical muslim leader holds visa
Fri 8 Sep 2006
The radical Pakistani muslim leader Mohammed Anas Noorani Siddiqui, who calls for muslims to kill Americans and their allies and demands the death penalty for those who blaspheme the prophet, is allowed to announce his message in the Netherlands undisturbed.

Siddiqui passes for religious leader of Amsterdams largest mosque, Taibah in the Bijlmermeer. From Sunday onwards he will lead a conference there, as chairman of the Surinamese mosque-dome World Islamic Mission (WIM).

In imitation of the motion by Geert Wilders [politician], practically all of the House of Representatives/Commons yesterday found it incomprehensible that the controversial muslim leader has obtained a visa. But nevertheless, Wilders' proposal to withdraw it got insufficient support.

Minister of Justice Piet Hein Donner (CDA) did promise to closely watch Siddiqui, who is already in the Netherlands, in the coming days. If he makes punishable statements, than he can be put on a list of undesirable persons, so that the Netherlands can in future refuse him entry.

Fatwa
In Pakistan Siddiqui is member of the radical islamic government party Jamiat Ulema Pakistan (JUP), which in 1998 gathered behind a fatwa of OBL against all westerners. Earlier this year, he organised fierce anti-western protests in Pakistan during the riots about the Danish mohammed-cartoons.

According to Donner, the JUP is in fact a moderate party. 'The person under consideration is staying here rightfully,' so said the minister, who did promise to 'pay attention' at the gatherings whether the Pakistani would not form a danger to the public order and national security.

By Bas Benneker 
Since he's being watched, the faithful Paki decided not to incite violence against the infidels during his sermons this time. Instead, he carefully chose the wishy-washy favourite topic of all secularists: 'love and peace' - to lull everyone into a false sense of security until the time is ripe and the numbers of islamics in the country are large enough to carry out j-had.
This is just a military strategy, Paki doesn't want to get all the islamics in the Netherlands kicked out if he made the actual speeches he wanted to make - mass muslim support in response to the muslim leader's radical statements would likely wake up the rest of the country to the ticking timebomb in their own yard.

Some of the above article is repeated at the end of the following.

http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/ar...n/ja/index.html
QUOTERadical muslim leader preaches 'love and peace'
Mon 11 Sep 2006

The radical Pakistani muslim leader Mohammed Anas Noorani Siddiqui, who had earlier called for muslims to kill Americans and their allies, has preached on Sunday in the Taibah mosque in Amsterdam about love and peace. 'Islam is a religion which says; love everyone. All muslims in the whole world should be friendly and polite to others.'

About two hundred Surinamese and Pakistani muslims attended the sermon. 'We reject all forms of terrorism and fundamentalism. Islam is the only religion which says; be friendly to everyone,' Siddiqui said to those present. Afterwards, he thanked the Dutch government and population for their hospitality.

[image caption:] Siddiqui sonday in the Taibah mosque: 'Love everyone.'

The sermon was conspicuous, seeing that the Pakistani is member of the radical islamic government party Jamiat Ulema Pakistan (JUP). According to parliament member Geert Wilders, this party signed a fatwa of terrorist leader OBL in 1998, wherein muslims were called to kill Americans and their allies.

Anti-western protests
Earlier, Siddiqui also demanded the death-punishment for blasphemers of the prophet and at the beginning of the year he organised fierce anti-western protests in Pakistan during the fuss surrounding the Danish Mohammed-cartoons.

Last week it became clear that the radical muslim leader had obtained a visa. In following Wilders motion, the entire House of Representatives/Commons found it incomprehensible that this could have happened. There was however not enough support for the plan to withdraw the visa (read Radical muslim leader holds visa).

Deny entry
Minister Piet Hein Donner (CDA) of Justice did however make known that the religious leader would be watched closely. 'If he makes punishable statements, he can be put on a list of undesirable persons. The Netherlands can then refuse him entry in future.'

By Claudia van ZantenOriginal versions at urls pasted above

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