Post 60 (cnn piece):
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"India's muslim population [...] feels more threatened than ever before"<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Is that why the Bangladeshi islamis are leaving their islamic pardees to infiltrate India? Well, they apparently need to read this cnn report to realise that India is not where they'd be happy. Bangladeshi islamics need to be told to sneak into America instead, is it? Where they'll be treated real swell by the US government which has sanctioned and put in place torture camps like Abu Ghraib? Is this merely Cnn's way of advertising their government's invitation for all Indian islamis to move to America, where they will be looked after better than in 'evil Hindu-majority India'?
Back to the point, how exactly is cnn thinking to explain the Bangladeshi and Pak islamic infiltration (policy) again? That it is happening in huge numbers is undeniable, therefore either cnn holds that
(1) Bangladeshi muslims are more afraid of their own islamic theocracy and prefer to be in India; (but this would negate the point of the cnn report that the Indian muslim population fears being in Hindu majority India which could well elect BJP into power)
OR
(2) Bangladeshi and Pak muslims are infiltrating into India to aid their Indian brethren to implement the pan-islamic agenda and create Mughalistan; (this would also be in utter opposition to cnn's piece: Indian Hindus need to fear Indian islamis rather than the other way around)
So which is it?
But apparently cnn, like the other usual paid-to-fabricate media, does not want to answer the 'difficult' questions, but chooses to ignore them in order to focus on what their governmental think tanks or billion-dollar christo organisations tell them to write about.
02-07-2007, 04:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-07-2007, 04:07 PM by Husky.)
Hope this is the media/psy-ops thread:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Photo: Malaysian Hindus skewer themselves in penance rite</b>
Thursday February 1, 12:35 PM
Hindu devotees walk up the stairs to the sacred Batu Caves temple during the Thaipusam festival in Kuala Lumpur Febuary 1, 2007. REUTERS/Zainal Abd Halim <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What's up with Zainal Abd Halim's wording? Next, I'd like to see her or his report on Shia's celebration of Ashoura: 'sado-masochistic rites of self-flagellation and self-inflicted wounds in remembering and pious re-enacting of islamic event. Meanwhile mothers also make cuts on babies' heads with knives, also to mark the occasion of Ashoura.'
Or how about Reuters reporting mass properly: 'ritual christian cannibalism and drinking of blood (vampirism?) to mark jesus' words at the final supper.'
If they can't be even-handed, how about they shut up about how Malaysian Hindus celebrate this festival centering around Shanmuga?
<img src='http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6977/votesw1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Here is the snap shot of voting. What a shame and credibility of CNN-IBN?
Just shows Indian media is just a fraud and worst than any third rated pimps.
See, India's PM credibility, he is accepting award and India's Parliament speaker is distributing these award. It shows these rulers are fraud, cheaters and dishonest peoples.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Why Gujarat 'Banned' Parzania
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodna...a+%28F%29&sid=1<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No one banned Parzania, theatre owners decided not to screen it just like they didn't want to screen Amir Khans movies (which the media twisted into a ban by Modi).
xposting "Inder Sharma" post from BR.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ananth that was mighty unfair. Ramnath Goenka (RNG) was, and remains the highest pedestal the DDMâs would ever dream to reach.
The funny thing is that during RNGâs rein Indian Express was supposed to be the key sympathizer of Sangh ideology. ( if we believe Praful Bidwai).
Actually, Indian express in its current avatar must be seen post-demise RNG when the institution was bifurcated between two Junior Goenkaâs. The heir of Indian express -Vivcek Goenka - has little to do with management and is thoroughly money driven.
The key to this blatant sell out to the US interests has to do with âShekhar Guptaâ. A little googling will inform you that he was a correspondent in Pakistan during early days of 1980âs (CIAâs Afgan years) posting pretty innocuous articles (Walter Duranty style). His claim to fame had been his discovery of LTTE camps on Indian soil in 1987 embarrassing RAW and IB in the process. Gupta basically hails from the rural background and is educated in hindi medium. If you get a chance to brush-by him, he will make it evident to you as to how much he holds himself in inferiority for his education in Hindi medium. In short he will leave no opportunity to prove his English and elitist skills which unfortunately comes off as pretentious.
IE under gupta shows a clear hierarchy of interest wherein the equation is
US paramount > > Sonia Congress > NBJPire > Leftists > Rightists (Sangh).
This manâs role during the Parakaram stand off is also pretty hazy with his claim to Pakistanis that he will take care of BJP from within (during the heat of the stand off). All the more interesting is his much-excited coverage of the Gujarat riots during the same period asking for Army redeployment from Kutchh border into the heartland with those BBC style footnotes mentioning that âNo country has ever gone to war with a nation where US troops are stationedâ (hinting that US might intervene for the Pakis). And then of course, Taklu and his analysts gunning for the Nuclear Deal even before any detail had come out regarding the same. It is taklu, Veiveck Goneka and the coterie, which needs to be watched and studied more deeply.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One should also watch Sanjay Baru (sp ?), now PM press Sectary and was from Indian Express. His connection to Vidashi Takat????
Mudyji
Ref: Post #63.
Where did you get the voting patterns? Where are the pictures? How did MMS end with the award with 7 times lesser votes?
Where did you get the voting patterns?
From CNN-IBN websites. Comments were very great for Modi and middle finger for MMS. Suddenly they stopped poll and announced winner with in 24 hours. Before election prize distrubution took place.
Where are the pictures?
Pictures are now moved some corner in CNN-IBN websites. Speaker along with Seardsai and MMS taking his award in his office.
How did MMS end with the award with 7 times lesser votes?
This is media's ninth wonder.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Punjab Assembly Polls </b>
<b>EC decides to file FIR against TV channel </b>
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14388343
New Delhi: The Election Commission on Tuesday decided to file an FIR against <b>NDTV for allegedly violating the electoral law by telecasting outcome projections on elections in Punjab when the poll process was in progress.</b>
The FIR would be filed against the channel for violation of the Section 126 of the Representation of People Act (RPA) which says no person shall display to the public any election manner by means of cinematograph, television or other similar apparatus.
Full coverage: Punjab Assembly Polls
Under âInsta Poll,â the channel was giving exit poll like projections as to who is in the lead between the two main contenders--Congress and Akali Dal (Badal).
\"The commission examined the issue and considered it as an infringement of the provisions of the RPA and gave a notice to the channel,\" deputy election commissioner R Bhattacharya told reporters.
He said this was not part of exit poll on which a case was already before the Supreme Court.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
02-19-2007, 07:58 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2007, 08:08 AM by Husky.)
Media suffering from victim complex?
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5922_19...02100020005.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Media continues to be at receiving end</b>
HT Correspondent
Ujjain, February 18, 2007
THE LOWER rung in the police administration continues to be insensitive towards the problems of common man despite the instructions of the State Director General of Police A R Pawar and <b>journalists are not spared too.</b>
The DGP had recently asked the police administration to respond quickly in receiving first information reports (FIRs) at police stations. The apathetic attitude of the police personnel was evident in Ujjain last night when media persons had to resort to an agitation to get an FIR over the misbehavior meted out to a cameraperson by a constable during coverage of Shani Amavasya registered.
Interestingly, <b>the genuine grievances of the press corp</b> could only be accepted when the scribes shouted slogans at the residence of range Inspector General of police.
One Jitendra Thakur was prevented by a constable from entering the barricaded area at the Shani Temple on the ground that the place was jam-packed. The issue turned ugly when constable Indra Vikram allegedly manhandled Jitendra and <b>threatened him with dire consequences</b>.
Thakur reported the matter to Neelganga TI K K Upadhyaya, who did not take it seriously. Scribes began gathering as the news spread but the police refused to file an FIR. The agitated journalists blocked the traffic at Chamunda Choraha at 11 am forcing ASP Veneet khanna to reach there. But the deadlock continued.
Irked journalists decided to squat before the residence of IG Anil Kumar to get their complaint registered. It was only around 2 pm when the police officials agreed to register the FIR. The Neelganga police station is one to get ISO certification.
<b>Strangely</b>, a counter case has been registered on Sunday against Jitendra Thakur under section 353 for creating hurdle in government work, and against the scribes for blocking the road. The journalists are now planning an agitation against what they term âpolice atrocities.'<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Who to believe? Are these 'victimised presspeople' HT journalists? In which case, I couldn't care less.
By Kaushik Basu, Professor of economics, Cornell University:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Inevitably, there is mention in the press about how India has not only broken away from the relatively slow Hindu rate of growth but may actually be entering into a Confucian growth path.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6365851.stm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who is this asshole Kaushik Basu?
It was not Hindu rate of growth but the Nehruvian rate of growth.
Who writes these reports for PTI? In addition to having indian politicians claiming kinship with the dead and the injured, we have paki politicians visiting hospitals. And the media gives a positive spin on this.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kasuri visits blast victims in Safdarjung hospital
PTI | New Delhi
Unfazed <i>(ofcourse he is unfazed, it is not his family who got killed!)</i> by the terror attack on Samjhauta Express, Pakistan Foreign Minister Khurshid Mohd. Kasuri on Tuesday said he has come to India for improving relations and carry forward the peace process.
Kasuri visited the Samjhauta blast victims now undergoing treatment at Safdarjung hospital. He said even before this incident, the two sides have agreed that the two sides will have a meeting in Islamabad on March 6.
<b>"Incidents like these which are heart-rending and which affect both countries and people can only add to the urgency for the need for cooperation," he said, adding the two countries need to cooperate with each other "meaningfully".</b> <i>(What about the scores of hindus who have been massacred in kashmir. are those not heart-rending?)</i>
<b>On the train blast, he said Pakistan was waiting for the report from the Indian Government.</b> <i>(who the?)</i> "It goes without saying that Pakistan is as interested as the Indian authorities to get to the bottom of this very unfortunate criminal activity," he said.
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Of ministers and old memories
The BBC Urdu service's Masud Alam continues his reflections on returning to live in Pakistan after an absence of 15 years.
<b>For every BBC Urdu service programme broadcast from Bush House in London, there are at least two meetings: a planning discussion before, and a debrief after. </b>
The first meeting is pretty sober and unremarkable, except on occasions like the Eid eve when the programme makers toss around creative ideas to treat the moon-sighting controversy in a way different to previous years.
The fun is in the post-programme meet where the whole team gets together to point out what is misleadingly termed 'areas for improvement'. It's an open invitation to find faults and be as mean and menacing as one's disposition and circumstances allow.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->from torontostar.ca
<b>India's rough passage to prosperity</b>
AJIT SOLANKI/AP PHOTO
Last week, women activists from the Bharatiya Janata political party rallied in Ahmadabad against rampant inflation. Email story
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh must quickly rebuild India's crumbling infrastructure or risk an economic flame-out. By David Olive
Feb 25, 2007 04:30 AM
David Olive
A close look at India's dazzling and widely celebrated economic success of late reveals two Indias.
There is the India that is casting off decades of post-independence socialism and a stubborn inferiority complex, now challenging China and Japan for global economic leadership by the mid-century, and making its mark with extraordinary GDP growth and daring foreign takeovers ranging from the world's biggest steel makers to the five-star Pierre Hotel in Manhattan.
And there is the more familiar India, whose burgeoning middle-class population of about 300 million is matched by a similar number of impoverished citizens earning less than $1 (U.S.) a day â the world's largest poor population, in fact. A nation whose infrastructure of basic services â education, health care, electricity, navigable roads â remains shockingly primitive.
The new India is described by popular Indian actor Amitabh Bachchan. "A pulsating, dynamic new India is emerging," the Bollywood star says in a TV ad for The Times of India. "An India whose faith in success is far greater than its fear of failure. An India that no longer boycotts foreign-made goods, but buys out the companies that make them instead."
But the India of stereotype remains, the one described by Toronto Star foreign correspondent Gordon Sinclair in the 1940s of widespread destitution, and not only in the nation's 680,000 rural villages, where many homes are made with buffalo dung, tuberculosis is widespread, and the literacy rate is estimated at 33 per cent. (China's literacy rate is 90 per cent). In Bangalore, India's glittering information-technology capital, which has realistic aspirations to become a developing-world Silicon Valley, running water is available in most homes for just three hours a day. Even in India's big cities, electricity is only intermittently available.
The economic potential of the world's second-largest country is undeniable. The Indian economy is super-charged, with annual gross domestic product growth of 8 per cent or more in each of the past three years. Not a few forecasters expect India's growth rate to surpass that of red-hot China this year. And using the United Nations GDP measure of purchasing power parity, which takes into account the local standard of living, India is destined soon to overtake Japan, as well, to become the world's third-largest economy, trailing only the U.S. and China.
At home, the boosterish Times of India's "India Poised" posters are seen everywhere in the big cities. And abroad, India is promoting itself as a low-cost source of highly skilled labour, dispatching industrial-development ambassadors to sell the "New India" to bankers in Frankfurt, potential joint-venture corporate partners in London, and merger and acquisitions dealmakers in New York.
Those envoys tell an accurate story of how economic reforms dating from 1991 have liberated India from the so-called "License Raj" of the post-colonial era, in which the country discouraged direct foreign investment under a centralized command economy. In the four decades following independence from Britain in 1947, local enterprises were designated as national champions in various sectors, protected from both domestic competition and foreign interlopers.
Yet Delhi is in denial in imagining that India's torrid growth can continue unabated without drastic reforms. It's a topic not even raised within the current national coalition government of mainstream and Communist members, for fear of bringing the government down.
The thinking among the more sanguine Indian policy makers is that the nation, with one of the youngest populations in the world, will cash in on a "demographic dividend." India's working population will continue to grow for decades, while that of China is forecast to decline. The result, in Delhi's view, will be relief from the current skills shortage, steadily rising GDP and tax revenues to pay for long-delayed infrastructure improvements, and a shift by the rural population â currently 60 per cent of Indians â from low-productivity work in farming to high-paying, skills-based jobs in urban centres.
That scenario has a legion of disbelievers outside India. With characteristic condescension, The Economist asserted in a recent cover story that warns of India's current flirtation with a "hard landing" after years of allowing its economy to overheat, that "perhaps the only thing really growing faster in India than China is hype."
That's a bit over-the-top for a nation that has endured decades of timidity and introspection following a long era of colonial exploitation. The local exuberance earlier this month was understandable over an Indian company's triumph in a bidding war for Corus Group PLC â an agglomeration of steel mills that includes the old British Steel, a relic of the empire whose chronic woes earned it a starring role in The Full Monty.
<b>The danger is a current disregard in Delhi over alarming signs of a potential economic flame-out, and longer term, of the urgent need for upgrading of schools, hospitals, roads and other crucial infrastructure, so that the anticipated exodus from rural areas will be one of educated students suited to well-paying jobs, and not a tide of unskilled refugees that would trigger an unemployment crisis. </b>
The current signals of an overheating economy include inflation running at 8 per cent, a four-fold increase in local stock-market values, a more than doubling of house prices in big cities, and an unprecedented borrowing binge by consumers and businesses alike â all the signs of a classic boom-bust scenario. India's central bank, the Reserve Bank of India, has been reluctant to remove the punch bowl from this party by raising interest rates. But India's debt-to-GDP ratio of 80 per cent, more than three times' that of China, and the highest among emerging-world economies, straitjackets Delhi in even its cursory efforts to invest in rural education, local clinics, power plants, modern highways and other infrastructure bottlenecks to sustained growth. About 90 per cent of the Indian workforce toils in the underground economy. Delhi's access to funds is unusually limited. In a nation of 1 billion people, only 35 million Indians pay income tax. (You read that right: 35 million people, not 35 per cent of Indians.)
Even Cassandras aren't predicting an Argentina-style currency crisis or economic implosion for India. The country owes most of its mounting debt to itself; its external debt is low. India is blessed with $180 billion (U.S.) in foreign-currency reserves to ride out any currency crisis. And Delhi has pledged to increase investments in infrastructure to 8 per cent of GDP over the next five years, up from 4 per cent currently, which would approximate the infrastructure spending that China has been making for years.
Yet India seeks to do the latter with public-private partnerships â that is, with a major infusion of foreign direct investment. That will be a challenge. While eager to partner with Indian firms in retail, IT and telecom ventures, foreigners are wary of Indian infrastructure projects. As the late Enron Corp. discovered with an ill-fated late-1990s Indian power-plant project, theft of electricity from local lines was rampant, and thousands of customers who balked at paying their utility bills were backed by the local state government. Many state governments are controlled by the Communist Party, which also props up the national coalition government of reform-minded Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Singh finds his hands tied when, for instance, dealing with prospective foreign investors' concerns about archaic labour laws that prohibit companies from laying off more than 100 employees without government permission.
Many Indian economists cite the sustained growth of Asian economies like Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan as a model, neglecting the fact those nations invested much more heavily in infrastructure than India has. And high-profile media reports of a recent Goldman Sachs forecast that India can sustain 8 per cent growth until 2020 usually left out the Goldman Sachs caveat that this economic miracle won't continue unless massive investments are made in infrastructure.
India, which has had previous brushes with "economic miracles" only to see them fade, is indeed poised once again. But for what, exactly, will depend on the political will of its leaders.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Film about massacre banned in India state
L.A. director had friend who lost son in Hindu slaughter
Henry Chu, Los Angeles Times
Sunday, February 25, 2007
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...L&type=politics<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Look at this b@st@rd, the crappy movie was never banned in the first place, just because people don't want to screen the shitty movie they have been spreading rumours that it has been banned.
yes that is a common thing from psecs in the west. Similarly I had heard one psec crying out that 'Water' had been banned in India, while the truth was that because the third class movie was a flop show there were very few theatres which screened it, and those who did, pulled it down within a few days.
They don't even mention that Da Vinci Code was officially banned in several states in India, while no such thing in USA and most of the world.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Of course, anti-incumbency, economic failures, emergence of competitive politics, receding fears in the Hindu psyche and the inevitable resurfacing of the caste divide can incrementally create fissures among Gujarati Hindus, but such a process will be gradual.
http://specials.rediff.com/news/2007/mar/01sld4.htm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&  --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> they must be doing namaaz five times a day for it happen.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindu India Aborts Females Illegally
By J. Grant Swank Jr. (02/28/07)
Graduate of accredited college (BA) and seminary (M Div) with graduate work at Harvard Divinity School. Married for 44 years with 3 adult children. Author of 5 books and thousands of articles in various Protestant and Catholic magazines, journals, web sites, and newspapers. Writer of weekly religion column for PORTLAND PRESS HERALD newspaper, Portland ME.
http://www.americandaily.com/article/17838<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
03-03-2007, 11:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2007, 02:08 PM by Husky.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Mar 2 2007, 07:18 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Mar 2 2007, 07:18 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindu India Aborts Females Illegally
By J. Grant Swank Jr. (02/28/07)
Graduate of accredited college (BA) and seminary (M Div) with graduate work at Harvard Divinity School. Married for 44 years with 3 adult children. Author of 5 books and thousands of articles in various Protestant and Catholic magazines, journals, web sites, and newspapers. Writer of weekly religion column for PORTLAND PRESS HERALD newspaper, Portland ME.
http://www.americandaily.com/article/17838<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[right][snapback]65174[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What, no mention of the recent christian record in fetus-murder amongst all this anti-Hindu ranting?
It can't be hard for an English-speaking christo like Swanky here to read news <i>in English</i> about the murderous goings-on in Ratlam Christian Hospital.
But apparently the kind of news reports pasted in Posts 42 and 48 of the Christo missionary thread were distasteful to Swanky and not at all in line with the sort of image of christianity he wants to project.
Swanky should wait, for the j-had. <i>When</i> it ceaselessly attacks the US, like it did India for a good thousand years, and throughout this time kills all its fighting men and assaults/abducts its assertive daughters to bear j-hadi offspring or face death - then, <i>if</i> the US survives, let's see whether in its historically most-affected regions (like our northwest) they too will have an inexplicable long-lingering phenomenon of people still wanting male offspring for some reason.
And the j-had will come. But at least they may thank their twinkling stars that America does not have Terroristan for a neighbour, else the US would never have been born (unless it were as UmmahStan).
03-03-2007, 11:19 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2007, 11:23 AM by Husky.)
Gujarat:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6399551.stm
How Muslim women adapted after riots
Has some good information on how some of Godhra's Muslim women are more free now that their husbands are incarcerated (on suspicion of terrorist activity).
But it's interspersed with a lot of anti-Hindu reporting as usual.
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