Twelve killed in Hyderabad
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>Nine persons were believed to have been killed due to the blast, while there was confusion whether the other three succumbed to injuries or in subsequent police firing on people protesting in the aftermath of the explosion</b>.
Three live bombs were detected at the mosque in the communally sensitive Charminar area and defused -- two immediately after the blast at 1.30 pm in an area where ablutions are performed and the third later in the evening near the gate.
Chief Minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy confirmed five deaths in the blast but police and official sources put the toll at 12
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<b>State Home Minister K Jana Reddy was prevented from entering the mosque by a crowd that shut its huge green wooden doors in his face</b>. Only after some persuasion by him and officials was he allowed to make an on-the-spot inspection.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sunni or Shia Mosque?
<b>Attempt to intimidate Indian Muslims</b> B Raman
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> There were grounds for suspicion that the blast in the Delhi mosque was probably due to internal rivalry among some office-bearers of the mosque. As such, it was not considered an act of terrorism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is called the Mecca Masjid because its central arch is believed to contain bricks brought from the holy city of Mecca. It took over 75 years to build the grand mosque. The construction had started during the regime of Mohammad Quli Qutb Shah, the sixth Sultan of Hyderabad and completed by Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> on NDTV
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dear all, the Deccan Chronicle has today reported that IED s have been set off in a recurring pattern on the eve of scheduled and publicised congregation of the Tableeghi Jamaat - Guntur, Malegoan and now Hyderabad.
Remarkably except for some Muslim lunatics taking a cue from Praveen Swamy and Raman's unproven theories about 'Hindu fundamentalists' being responsible for Malegaon, our nears and dears in CNN-IBN, Times Now, and NDTV 24+7 did not play similar bizarre mind games.
But they did expose some serious confusion abt the devices being crude or sophisticated. Some times they called it a crude bomb, crude device which can be assembled by anyone, with nails and other shrapnel-causing metal pieces being put into the device to cause maximum painful injuries. But one expert and the DGP basith said that the timer device was sophisticated and Basith went so far as to say, these kind of sophisticated devices are not to be found in hyderabad.Â
These are the facts.
Let us be clear about the device - these devices in mosques are IEDs whereas those used in godhra and mumbai were TIDs.
Setting off IEDs in mosques has now effectively given muslim column writers in our secular newspapers and news channels the opening to say that muslims, like pakistan, are also now victims of terrorism.
this serves two purposes - now that muslims are also victims hindus shld not avenge attacks against them like they did in Gujarat following godhra. we are the same onleeee now, you see.
and this takes away even the little attention some of us had on the ethnically cleansed hindus of J&K. some of our experts have been saying that the muslims of J&K have been as much victims of terrorism like the Hindus. Really?????
How come the muslims of J&k are not dispalced from their homes and homeland, how come they dont control the polity in J&K? So lets cut the muslim-victim bull-sh1t.
let our experts now give us their considered opinion abt why these blasts occur before tableeghi meets. knowing the jihadi mind, it is heading for a larger objective and a few muslim victims are well only martyrs for the cause. and their families get rewarded by governments for their martyrdom<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
05-19-2007, 10:04 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-19-2007, 10:04 AM by dhu.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+May 19 2007, 08:56 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ May 19 2007, 08:56 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> let our experts now give us their considered opinion abt why these blasts occur before tableeghi meets. knowing the jihadi mind, it is heading for a larger objective and a few muslim victims are well only martyrs for the cause. and their families get rewarded by governments for their martyrdom
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These guys know that bombing Hindus will not elicit a response. It's more effective to bomb their own.
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Only Hindu don't know how to react, look at Sikh or Muslims in H'Bad.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Eleven people were killed in the explosion that occurred during Friday prayers while five more died when police fired on protesters who attacked shops and petrol pumps in the communally sensitive Charminar area<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dear all -
1.The Union Home Minister issues a certificate for good conduct to the andhra pradesh chief minister. he also issues a limited conducted certificate to the hyderabad police.
2.Samuel Reddy thanks sonia gandhi (allow me to puke), the prime minister and the home minister (for what, we are not told)
3. Samuel reddy thanks the prime minister for standing by 'us'. (what does THIS mean, ur guess is as good as mine)
4. Samuel Reddy apologises to the muslims for the police firing and crawls all the way to mecca masjid conceding a cbi enquiry (into the blast or the police firing, we do not know) as demanded by the muslims.
(now just as the muslims of gujarat get to decide on the judges and the public prosecutor hearing/arguing the gujarat riot cases, the muslims of hyderabad get to decide which cases go to the cbi)
5. That the muslims turned ugly and violent after the blast and started pelting stones at the police, obstructing their work, not dispersing as instructed, not allowing anyone to enter the masjid premises (home minister of AP included). And of course because these are our dear muslims the police is expected to just stand and gawp, not act. they are damned if they do damned if they dont.
6. and of course our nears and dears denied any opportunity to froth at the mouths because there is no fascist hindu invlovement in the blasts, blithely call the hyderabad police 'trigger happy'. Not a word abt how the muslims conducted themselves of course.
7. Just to highlight how muslims are now victims of terrorism our nears and dears in the ehglish news channels present the sob story "the muslims want to know why they are being targeted on the holy day of friday".
8. dear dear, i cld have told them that. jihadis beleive that dieing for your religion on a friday sends you exres fast to paradise. ditto if you, a muslim are killed for your religion on a friday. go back and read history of the last 5 yrs, all major terrorist attacks no matter who the victims are carried out on fridays. and if it is ramadan, then all fridays offer express service to heaven.
9. they all hold hands and crawl together to appease muslim anger. not even a murmur abt why local muslims participate in jihad by creating cells and modules for the phoren hand to trigger the blast by cell phone.
And now for the freudian slip -
10. ambika soni, my most favorite person after nirmala deshpande tells the world's muslims that her government is committed to protecting important national monuments like the Taj Mahal and th Charminar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( Did any of you hear Rama Setu? I didnt)
11. The home minister says - all religious places like "masjids, churches, mosques!!!!!!" will be given security cover. They just cant bring themselves to say 'temple' can they? Its a pity he didnt say masjid in yet another indian language.Â
12. Phoren hand they all say, elts pretend there isnt local domestic hand.
13. 15 bangladeshis were arrested 'exfiltrating' (ouch!!) into PoK from Akhnoor. Now what were Bangladeshis doing in akhnoor? I thought we didnt have any illegal bangladeshis?
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<b>Breakthrough! Hyd blast linked to HUJI</b>
http://in.news.yahoo.com/070520/211/6g0et.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Shahi Imam Ahmed Bukhari detained for one hour</b>
Khabrein Staff Reporter ( www.khabrein.info)
http://www.khabrein.info/index.php?option=...d=865&Itemid=66
New Delhi, May 22: The Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid Delhi, Maulana Syed Ahmed Bukhari was detained for an hour at Darya Ganj Police station with his supporters who were trying to stage a march to Prime Ministerâs Office. The Shahi Imam wanted to meet the Prime Minister in connection with Fridayâs bomb Blast in Makka Masjid, Hyderabad. The imam was detained for around an hour and was questioned by senior police officials.
Bukhabri was picked up by police along with around 2 dozen supporters at 4 pm and was taken to the office of the assistant commissioner of police of Daryaganj area in central Delhi. They were let off after senior police officials questioned them for at least an hour. "We detained 19 people, including Bhukhari, near the Jama Masjid after they started their protest march to the Prime Minister's residence. They were questioned for an hour," a senior official said.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Leaders of Indian Muslim Diaspora Condemn the Bomb Explosion at the Historic Mecca Mosque in Hyderab </b>
EXCERPTS FROM THE STATEMENT
Leaders of the Muslim diaspora living in the United states have condemned the bomb blast at the historic Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad India as a heinous and cowardly crime. The terrorist explosion killed many worshippers engaged in the Friday prayers.
Friday is the Muslim sabbath and the historic mosque was full of worshippers. Many of the victims are children. Many more people were killed when the police fired on the worshipers who rushed out of the mosque in panic and anger.
The leaders urged a high-level investigation to bring the perpetrators of the bomb blast to justice. They demanded that the investigation also look into the police firing on the panicked and angry Muslim worshippers as well as into the unusual absence of the police force at the Mosque before the Friday prayers. Those law-enforcement officials who are responsible for first withdrawing the police security force from the mosque before the explosion and later for ordering the police to fire upon unarmed worshipers must be investigated for their possible connection with those responsible for putting the bombs in the Mosque and then duly punished.
I<b>t is a known fact that the police is heavily infiltrated by the Hindutva-fascist sympathizers. The government must give all minorities proportional representation in the police force to ensure police neutrality and integrity, the leaders demanded.</b> However, special task forces, posted in the sensitive areas and sent to areas where communal disturbances may be in the process of taking place, should have equal representation from a number of religions and castes. <b>Persecuted minorities may not be safe in the hands of police with a proportionately small minority representation in the police. Their (the persecuted minorityâs) representation should be no less than the dominant communityâs representation that may be perceived as the oppressor community</b>. In all other positions of power the representation of various segments should be in proportion to their population, however, representation in the special police task force needs to be carefully weighed from all angles, and proportion of the oppressed communities should be increased. The presence of other neutral groups that may not be party to the on going conflict between the dominant and an oppressed group would ensure impartiality of the police force. Police is supposed to be protector of weaker sections. The dominant sections are by and large safe from the attacks of the weaker minorities. So the dominant section does not need as much protection. The police force needs to put together keeping these considerations in mind.
The diaspora leaders congratulated all Indians, especially the Muslim community for showing tremendous restraint.
<b>They condemned the self-declared experts of the Hindutva camp who rushed to declare that the explosions were either planned by Pakistan or by Muslim extremist groups.</b> "The rush to exonerate Hindu extremist groups such as Bajrang Dal who were implicated in similar terrorist attacks on mosques in the recent past with an intention to fan communal hatred is deplorable," the statement read. The leadership expressed disappointment that some in the media have bought into the Hindutva propaganda that Muslims themselves have staged the attack, and are turning a blind eye to the home-grown terrorism of Hindutva groups.
<b>These leaders have asked the Treasury department and the law-enforcement agencies to look into the fund-raising and other nefarious activities of the Hindutva fronts in the US.</b>
The statement also reminded that in the aftermath of Babri Masjid demolition more than 2000 Muslims were massacred in Bombay and other cities of India in 1992 by the Hindutva mobs. Ten years later more than 2000 Muslims were massacred in a well-planned pogrom with the help of the State machinery in the Hindutva-ruled state of Gujarat. The massacres, rapes and ethnic cleansing were documented by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International along with other human rights groups.
<b>Hindutva is a fascist movement that was founded in 1920's on the model of Mussolini's Fascist Party and later adopted Hitler's model of Final Solution for its genocidal policies against the Muslim and Christian minorities of India. Hindutva movement operates many fronts and has spread its tentacles world wide. Some of the Hindutva activities in the US can be researched on the websites</b>Â
Contact person:
Shaik Ubaid, MD
(516) 567- 0783
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Does MD mean Mentally Deranged?
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New Delhi : One more person has been arrested in connection with last weekâs explosion at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad.
According to a report in Times Now , the identity of the suspect is yet to be confirmed. The suspect was arrested from Jamshedpur after a CID raid. Earlier on Monday, the <b>Kolkata Police detained one Sajid Mian </b>for interrogation. Agencies
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aruniji,
Sajid Mian is a Hindutva guy of Bajrang Dal, certified by Mr. MD
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<b>Hyderabad blasts: The ISI hand</b>
Again UPA want to keep Indian Muslim happy.
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Again UPA want to keep Indian Muslim happy.
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Reading all these news articles, it seems like islam will eat the muslims alive from within. I mean these guys; even the so-called educated ones have no sense of logic.
These attacks were carried out by Pakis and the traitor muslims of India. Any attempts to hurt innocent Hindus must be dealt with force.
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Every time Indian Govt blames Pakis or Bangladeshi Muslims, it clearly shows Indian Govt doesnât have will to fight in born Muslim Jihadism in India. Itâs very easy to blame outsider.
First, if they are outsider, why Indian Govt is not enforcing stricter Visa control? Why they are not deporting illegal or people those whoâs Visa had been expired?
In every terrorist act, Indian Muslims are involved, why they are ignoring? Why they are not imposing control on Mosque and Madarsa. This was third known Bomb blast in Mosque, Govt should instal camera inside and outside Mosques and monitors every activity.
Indian Govt attitude is more or less like a Pigeon with closed eyes sitting in front of cat, thinking cat will not eat him.
<b>Mecca blast arrest was trying to secure fake passport </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hyderabad, May 27: The man who was arrested from Maharashtra in connection with the Mecca Masjid blast was taken into custody under the Passport Act, according to a Special Investigation Cell (SIC) source.
<span style='color:red'>Sohaib Jagirdar was arrested </span>yesterday from his residence at Jalna in Maharashtra for trying to procure a passport in a fictitious name for "jehadi purpose", the source in SIC, probing the May 18 bomb blast, said today.
During the course of investigation it was revealed that Jagirdar was a close associate of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) cadre<span style='color:red'> Nayeem alias Sameer</span>, the source said.
Sameer, an accused in the 2006 Aurangabad (Maharashtra) arms-haul case, was arrested early this year by the BSF in West Bengal, while allegedly helping two Pakistani mercenaries cross over into India through the Indo-Bangladesh border.
Sameer's custody was taken by the Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) of Mumbai police on April 24 from BSF.
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From Pioneer, 30 May 2007
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Omer Farooq | HyderabadÂ
<b>Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister YS Rajasekhara Reddy on Wednesday directed the Hyderabad city Police not to book any cases against those injured in the police firing on May 18 soon after the blast in Mecca Masjid.</b>
The move came after <b>the police booked serious cases, including that of attempt to murder, against the nine youth injured in the police firing.</b> They included even 16-year-old boys. The move sparked off a fresh round of anger and consternation in the minority community and it was <b>one of the important subjects of discussion on Wednesday when a delegation of United Muslim Action Committee met the Chief Minister at his office.</b>
It also demanded that all harassment of the minority community by the police should be stopped immediately and the Chief Minister assured that he would issue the necessary orders to the Director General of Police and the city Police Commissioner.
The delegation, led by renowned religious scholar Moulana Hameeduddin Aauqil Hussami and comprising representatives of seven different organisations, also demanded a judicial inquiry into the police firing by a sitting High Court Judge which should be time bound.
<b>Briefing the media after the meeting, Member of Parliament from Hyderabad Asaduddin Owaisi said that the delegation submitted a list of four High Court judges names and requested the Chief Minister to see that one of them head the commission.</b>
<b>The terms of reference of the commission should include the circumstances in which fire was opened by the police, whether it was preceded by lathicharge, tear gas shells, water cannon etc, what kind of weapon and bullets were used, who ordered the firing and why the police fired above the waste causing deaths and debilitating injuries, the delegation said in the representation.</b>
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Something very odd about the Mecca Masjid blast is the lack of progress in getting the real perpetrators arrested. And the CBI refrence. Its like the CM doesnt trust the local police or doesnt want to know who did it. Now judicial inquiry by AP HC judge proposed by the delegation.
So Sajid Mian from Kolkota, one suspect from Jamshedpur, Sohaib Jagirdar from Jalna, and Nayeem/Sameer from West Bengal are the arrested folks.
Looks like, they are trying to suppress local police and blaming them for others behavior. It is very odd. Even those are arrested; there was no proof that they were actually involved.
Why CBI inquiry? Why CID is not taking lead? If they suspect foreign country involvement why not use IB or RAW?
CM behavior and decisions are very odd. Somehow it gives an impression that he did it and now asking for apology and trying to cover up with all weird logic.
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