Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims -2

Bharatvarsh · 07-05-2007, 08:45 PM

QUOTE15 per cent quota for Muslims sought

Staff Reporter

TIRUNELVELI: Demanding 15 per cent reservation for Muslims in education and employment, functionaries of Tamil Nadu Thawheedh Jamaath organised âjail bharoâ on South Bypass Road at Vannarpet in Palayamkottai here on Wednesday.

The police arrested over 3,149 protestors, including 793 women and 334 children, as they blocked traffic on the busy Bypass Road. The protestors were taken to various marriage halls in Tirunelveli and Palayamkottai and released later in the evening.

Speaking amidst the protestors earlier, the state vice-president of TNTJ, S.S.U. Saifullah Khaja said most of the Muslims, whose contribution to the freedom struggle could not be just ignored, were living in a pathetic condition after Independence, as the 16 per cent reservation given to them in 1927 was reduced by 7 per cent by the Congress government, led by Omanthur Ramasamy Reddiar, in 1947. And the privilege was withdrawn completely in 1954.

âThe Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam, which came to power in 1967 with the support of Muslim League, also refused to take any positive step to give reservation again to Muslims. However, the DMK government was forced to create a new category â Most Backward Community â in 1989 and give 20 per cent reservation. But the Muslims were left out this time too. To win back the reservation given to Muslims, weâll intensely fight and we are prepared for any sacrifice,â Mr. Saifullah said.

He warned that the TNTJ would be forced to take hard decisions in the partyâs general council meeting to be held in August this year, if the State Government remained silent over the âgenuine demand of the Muslimsâ.

http://www.hindu.com/2007/07/05/stories/...240300.htm

Bharatvarsh · 07-05-2007, 10:40 PM

QUOTEUK confirms Glasgow suicide bomber an Indian
5 Jul 2007, 1308 hrs IST,INDIATIMES NEWS NETWORK

NEW DELHI: British authorities on Thursday confirmed that the Glasgow suicide bomber was an Indian.

âThe man who tried to ram his vehicle into the Glasgow Airport is an Indian, not Lebanese as previously thought,â intelligence sources said in UK.

Kafeel Ahmed from India is believed to have carried out both the Glasgow and London attacks last week.

Kafeel was reportedly in the jeep that rammed Glasgow Airport along with an Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla, believed to be the mastermind behind the attack.

UK intelligence agencies believe he is the brother of Sabeel Ahmed, who was arrested in Liverpool.

Kafeel Ahmed, the suspected Glasgow suicide bomber is in hospital after suffering severe burn injuries.

Meanwhile, Indian national Dr Haneef one of the key suspects detained in Australia voiced his innocence before Indian consul officers. Highly placed sources in the MEA also said that it is quite likely that Haneef may be freed later on Thursday.

Haneef is being questioned by a top ranking British security expert to ascertain his role, if any in the UK terror plot.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/UK_conf...how/2177281.cms

07-06-2007, 12:02 AM

Al Qaeda and the global Indian

World is realizing now, India-Forum sensed quiet a long time back and started alerting world about radicalization of Indian Muslims.
Indian Muslim had proved, its not stupid democracy or illiteracy or poverty but one and only one reason that is religion of peace "Islam"

Bharatvarsh · (This post was last modified: 07-06-2007, 04:12 AM by Bharatvarsh.)

QUOTEKafeel Ahmed had gained admission by giving the address of his father Maqbool Ahmed, at Banashankari, 9th main road, 26th cross, House no. 1981. He stayed in a Muslim studentsâ hostel, said the staff. Religion âHinduâ?

The address and other details provided by Khafeel Ahmed to UBDT College at the time of admission have raised several questions.

He has noted his religion as âHinduâ and nobody noticed that his parents had Muslim names.

http://deccanherald.com/Content/Jul62007/s...tion=updatenews

Bharatvarsh · 07-06-2007, 04:41 AM

QUOTEKafeel is the eldest child of Dr Maqbool Ahmed and Dr Zakia, residents of Banashankari II Stage, Bangalore. He is a mechanical engineer and had graduated from the UBDT College, Davangere in 2000. He is working in the department of science and technology in Anglia Ruskin University, Cambridge.

With his identification, it has become clear that three among the eight suspects, detained for interrogation are relatives and are from Bangalore. Two of them â Mohammed Haneef and Sabeel Ahmed are doctors and graduates from the B R Ambedkar College.

Though the Ahmeds refused to speak to the media on Thursday, the neighbours and people known to the Ahmeds said that three years ago, they had joined the Tableeghi Jamaat â a radical Islamic group from Deoband, Uttar Pradesh. They are hardliners.

When they joined the Jamaat, they started objecting to putting lights on the mosque outside and said it was anti-Islamic, the secretary of the Hazrat Tippu mosque opposite Ahmedâs house said.

Another âfriendâ of Sabeel and Kafeel, Afsar â a mutton vendor, said that the two brothers used to tell their friends, to not indulge in âbadâ habits. âThey used to tell us not to see films or television, smoke or drink. They insisted that we prayed regularly,â said Afsar.

Another interesting detail that Afsar revealed was that Kafeel wanted to get into aeronautical engineering. âHe was very keen to design aeroplanes and he wanted to go to the UK,â he said.

That al-Qaeda is recruiting professionals like doctors and engineers in their cadre is well known and according to Intelligence sources, that is a cause of concern.

The Ahmeds were initially reluctant to speak to media but, finally Kafeelâs younger sister Sadia came out of her house and told the waiting reporters tbat their lawyer has asked them not to give any statement.

âWe are not even sure that the suicide bomber Kafeel is my brother. We still donât have any communication from London about him (Kafeel). All we know is that Sabeel has been detained by the police,â said Sadia. She threatened to lodge a complain with the police if the mediapersons didnât leave their premises.

Haneefâs family is beginning to lose hope after they learnt on Thursday that the Australian court has extended his detention by four days.

âWe donât know whose help to seek. One Vinod Kumar from the India High Commission in Australia called me on Monday informing us about Haneefâs detention. He promise to keep us updated. We have not heard from him so far,â Ishtiaq Ahmed, father-in-law of Haneef told Deccan Herald.

Ishtiaqe is a businessman and lives in a plush house in BTM Layout. His elder daughter, Firdous Arshiya is married to Haneef and the couple has just had a baby girl. He admitted that Haneef was related to Sabeel and Kafeel.

âTarnishedâ

âI met Sabeel at Haneefâs wedding. They worked together in the Halton Hospital in Cheshire in 2005. Haneef had bought a mobile phone on a two-year contract from a dealer in the UK. He got a job in the Gold Coast Hospital in Brisbane a year later and had to leave for Australia. He gave his SIM card to Sabeel for use,â he said adding that the familyâs reputation has been tarnished with media reports.

Arshiya said that her husband bought a one-way ticket because he wanted to take her, his mother and their new-born baby back to Australia. âHis mother already has got her visa,â Ishtiaque said.
Don't have the link.

Bharatvarsh · 07-06-2007, 08:07 AM

Indian Muslims perturbed over British terror links
QUOTESome Muslim leaders insisted that the arrests in Britain and Australia were a conspiracy against Islam.

Masum Muradabadi, editor of Khabardar Jadeed, an Urdu weekly from New Delhi, claimed there was an international campaign to paint 'anyone wearing a skullcap and sporting a beard as a terrorist.

'At every international airport a Muslim is looked with suspicion and apprehension. This has become a big source of harassment of Muslims. This in turn creates resentment among good sections of Muslims. Muslims really don't know what to do... No human rights group is coming to help the Muslims.'

Moulvi Mohammed Mouzzam Ahmed, the Naib Imam of Old Delhi's 16th century Fatehpuri mosque, was evasive about the Indian Muslim involvement, blaming it on all on the US and Jews.

'There is conspiracy to defame the Indian Muslim,' he said. 'It is only Islam that speaks against oppression. Not terrorism.'
http://in.news.yahoo.com/070705/43/6hqda.html

07-06-2007, 08:22 AM

QUOTEImam of Old Delhi's 16th century Fatehpuri mosque
This is surprising, he was moderate, but it seems now all have joined Islamofascist wagon.
Family is denying that their son is suicide bomber, no surprise here.

07-06-2007, 09:30 PM

B'lore cops grill families of Dr Evils for terror linksQUOTESources in Bangalore police told CNN-IBN that both Sabeel and Kafeel were fundamentalists and used to organise radical meetings. "The families of the two suspects lived in Jordan and Afghanistan earlier. They made many calls to the Middle East," police sources claim.

Police also questioned the family of Mohammmed Haneef, for two hours on Friday in connection with last weekâs failed terror attacks in UK. Haneef and Sabeel went to the same medical college and stayed together in the UK.

The questioning was done by the Joint Commissioner of Police and Deputy Commissioner of Bangalore Police. Haneef is not so far directly linked to the case, but he is the only one in detention.

Background of the brothers
Police in Bangalore say Sabeel Ahmed and Kafeel Ahmed had joined the Tabligi Jamaat missionary sect.

Police are trying to ascertain whether the three were involved with any terror groups when they were in Bangalore or got into the act after going abroad.

What is a matter of concern to city police in Bangalore, say senior officials who did not want to be named, is the report that Kafeel and Sabeel had joined a missionary sect, Tabligi Jamaat, and had differences with the local mosque authorities on the way prayers and preaching were conducted there.

The two brothers stayed with their parents, both retired doctors, at Banashankari, a middle class locality in Bangalore.

Samiullah, secretary at the Jamia Hazrat Tipu Masjid at Banashankari, told reporters on Thursday evening, that the brothers "used to visit the mosque as children but after they joined the Tabligi Jammat, they became different".

Samiullah said: "As Indians we follow the Indian form of preaching and cannot accept any other form."
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The Australian Police have expanded their investigations into last week's failed UK terror threats including the unexploded car bombs in London and an attack on the Glasgow airport.

The police have questioned four doctors believed to be of Indian nationality and seized a number of computers and phones from hospitals.

Two hospitals - one in Perth and the other in the mining town of Kalgoorlie were searched on Friday.

Authorities say computers, files and thousands of pages of documents have been seized and sent for forensic examination.
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Investigations in UK
Investigators in the UK are also trying to decipher a conversation Kafeel had with his family before he left for the UK.

He had apparently told his mother and sister, "I am involved in a large scale confidential project on global warming. The project has to be started in the UK. During the project work in the UK, I will not be available by any means- phone or Internet- for a week." [Gore Connection or Commie connection ] <!--emo& Big Grin

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He reiterated this when he called up home from Iceland on June 30.

Kafeel had also claimed that the work on his project would begin in the UK.

He also told his family that an earlier presentation had failed and asked them to pray for him.

Investigators are trying to decipher the meaning of these words. The suspect by 'confidential project', may have been referring to the terror plot. And 'failed presentation' could be interpreted to mean a foiled attack, say sources.

On Friday, Kafeel was transferred from Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley to a special burns unit at the Glasgow Royal Infirmary. He is under 'armed guard' and his condition is still critical. So one may not really know what Kaffeel was up to with doctors saying his is unlikely to survive the burn injuries


He tried to self immolate, I thought this is against Islam, now he will go to Jhanum "hell" according to Islam.

07-06-2007, 09:39 PM

Headline is so misleading, he was brainwashed by every other riots and war not only Gujarat. But hey, Rediff is now Congress and leftist mouthpiece, can't breathe without mentioning Gujaaaaaaraaaat to coverup radicalisation of Indian Muslim. <!--emo& Big Grin

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Khafeel was brainwashed with Gujarat riot tapesQUOTEKhafeel Ahmed, the aeronautical engineer from Bangalore who allegedly drove a flaming SUV into Glasgow airport last week, was a member of the Students Islamic Organisation, the organisation which was banned along with the Students Islamic Movement of India in 2001. 
Khafeel's contact with the SIO came about when he was staying at a Muslim hostel in Davangere as an engineering student. His friend Imran Shamil said there was a gradual change in his attitude as the years in college passed. He became more reserved and preached about Islam most of the time.

During the affiliation with SIO he also joined the Tableeghi Jamaat, the Muslim revivalist organisation that preaches a return to the religion's fundamentals, in 2003. The Jamaat is not too popular among the community thanks to the puritanical brand of Islam it advocates.
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They also said during his stint with the SIO both in Davangere and Bangalore, he was shown extensive footage of the Babri Masjid demolition in 1992, the Mumbai riots of 1993, the Gujarat riots of 2002, and also of the Iraq war. The friends believe he may have been asked to carry out the attack in London [Images] as retaliation for the UK's involvement in the Iraq war

Bharatvarsh · 07-06-2007, 09:55 PM

QUOTECo-education unlawful, says Deoband

Agencies
Posted online: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 1816 hours IST
Updated: Friday, July 06, 2007 at 1826 hours IST

New Delhi, July 6: A fatwa issued by leading Islamic seminary Dar-ul-Uloom Deoband has ruled that co-education is âunlawfulâ as the system has given rise to âa number of evilsâ in colleges and universities.

Muslim scholars, however, contested the fatwa, saying Islam does permit co-education but within certain parameters.

The prestigious seminary, in a fatwa (decree) posted on its website on July 1, said: "The co-education system of colleges and universities is having a number of evils, therefore it is undoubtedly unlawful."

The fatwa was issued in reply to a question from a member of the public whether a girl could attend co-educational institutions after reaching puberty.

The Darul Ifta, the seminary's wing that issues fatwas, said even 'deeni' (religious) classes for grown up boys and girls are âun-Islamic and attending such classes is not allowedâ.

It asserted that it is âunlawful for women to meet non-Mahram men (men who are not their fathers or close kin) without hijab or mix with themâ. It also said boys and girls could study together only till the age of 10.

However, Muslim scholars said co-education is not unlawful if it is in accordance with Islamic values.

"Studying in a co-education institution is not unlawful for boys and girls as long as they follow Islamic values and remain within its parameters," said All Indian Muslim Personal Law Board spokesman S Q R Ilyas.

Referring to countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Turkey where co-educational colleges exist, Ilyas said a girl wearing a veil could attend such institutions. He, however, agreed Islam prohibits the mixing of women with the opposite sex.

Abdul Hameed Nomani, the spokesman of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind and a Muslim scholar, said: "Islam favours education for all men and women but asks its followers to avoid mixing with non-Mahrams".

All India Shia Personal Law Board spokesman Maulana Yasoob Abbas said such fatwas defame Islam and send out wrong signals to other communities.

"Women are permitted to do every work which their male counterparts can do," he said, adding that women should follow the proper dress code, including wearing the hijab.

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=89173

07-06-2007, 10:46 PM

Any word from the frequent apologists like IMC etc on this UK plot involving some Islamists doctor from India.? If I'm not mistaken the organizations like IMC in US speak on behalf of NRI Indian Muslims. Funny you can't find them when they are needed the most, but everytime there's a blast in India (Mecca masjid in Hyderabad, Malegaon masjid, Jama Masjid, Diwali blasts, Samjhauta express, 7/11 Mumbai etc) they are quick to point finger to "possible hindus fundamentalists links" despite the fact they've been proven wrong again and again and again.

07-06-2007, 11:29 PM

IMC head is a Indian origin Muslim Doctor, not sure whether he is on US/UK govt, radar.
They are silent, no buzz from their corner yet or may be I have missed. But regular Kwaja and other are silent, no press release from them blaming Hindus for recent attack.

These Indian Muslim Doctors were even trying for Residence programme in US according to media.

07-07-2007, 03:13 AM

QUOTE'PM Moron Singh statement smacks of vote bank concerns' 
Pioneer News Service | New Delhi]
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi has said that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's statement on the arrest of Indians in the UK terror plot was motivated by vote bank considerations and demanded that the PM's talk with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown be made public.

Criticising the PM's remarks that he could not sleep at night after watching the images of the family members of those implicated in the terror plots, Modi said such sympathetic words from the country's Prime Minister had hurt the feeling of crores of citizens.

In a statement, Modi had asked if the PM had lost his sleep over the plight of the family members of the jawans who are killed while fighting terrorists in Kashmir.

"Why did the PM not lose his sleep when several people were killed in the Mumbai bomb blasts," Modi asked. Asserting that the country had a right to know what transpired between Manmohan Singh and the British Prime Minister, Modi said that " the details of the talk should be made public." 
On Thursday, talking to a group of women journalists here, Singh said he couldn't sleep at night after he saw the distraught family of detained Indian doctor Mohammad Haneef pleading on TV

The PM also spoke to his British counterpart Gordon Brown and assured him all possible help in the investigations.

Singh had cautioned against dubbing anybody or any country as a terrorist, saying if any community is targeted, it would create "new sets of grievances".

"It is wrong to label any community or country. We have to look for solutions," Singh said in the wake of two Indians being held for their suspected involvement in the failed terror plots of London and Brisbane.

"If a particular community is targeted, it will create a new set of grievances," the Prime Minister had said.

07-07-2007, 03:22 AM

QUOTEA myth is now exposed 
Pioneer.com
KPS Gill
The involvement of some Indian doctors and engineers - conclusive evidence in two cases is yet to be disclosed, but there now seems little doubt that one of the perpetrators of the attack on Glasgow Airport, Kafeel Ahmed, is an Indian engineer - has once again dramatically exposed the infirmities of India's orientation towards Islamist terrorism, the manner in which it is perceived and projected by the national leadership, and the counter-productive tyranny of political correctness and undercurrent of apologetics that dominates most approaches.

Tremendous political and emotional capital had long been invested in the asinine argument that there was something radically different about Indian Muslims that had prevented their engagement in any act of international terrorism. The truth, on the other hand, is that a number of Indian Muslims have long been mobilised and engaged in acts of terrorism on Indian soil - consequently there was no inflexible psychological barrier against their engagement in acts of terror per se - and it was only a matter of time before some of these individuals did, in fact, find the context and opportunity for participation in an act of terrorism abroad. This has now come to pass, and needs to be confronted directly, and not in the defensive and often evasive manner that is largely evident in prominent Indian statements after the disclosures regarding the involvement of Indians in the UK attacks.

By now it should be unnecessary - but regrettably is not - to state that none of this reflects in any manner on the larger Muslim community in India. The engagement of a handful of deviants in acts of terrorism cannot undermine the fact that an Indian Muslim population of 150 million has overwhelmingly rejected the Islamist radicalism and terror that has actively and aggressively been promoted by Pakistan on Indian soil for decades.

Nevertheless, we should recognise that Islamist terrorism is, and has for some time now been, a reality in India, and it is no use saying 'don't label Indians'. Indians have engaged in these actions and this reality must be confronted if we are to understand - and eventually neutralise - the dynamics that underlie these acts of terrorism. We should accept, equally, that a significant element within the Indian diaspora has long supported and funded terrorism in India and has been closely linked with Islamist extremist ideologies, and some elements within this diaspora have now planned and executed acts of terrorism abroad as well. These are elements that should have been under strong surveillance for a long time, and at least some acts of terrorism could be prevented by effective monitoring. Intelligence inputs are of critical significance in counter-terrorism, and the orientation of intelligence services is, in this sense, crucial. If a political culture of obfuscation and denial dominates the orientation of intelligence and enforcement agencies, we will repeatedly be caught off guard.

Even today, nearly 12 years after my retirement from the police, I continue to get information through private channels and well-wishers abroad on the activities of various radical and terrorist groups, particularly in Europe, the US and Canada. If private individuals have such information of subversive and extremist activities, intelligence and enforcement agencies cannot be unaware of them. But they are inhibited in their actions precisely by the political injunctions against 'labelling' or 'causing offence' to 'a community'. But the fact is that Islamist terrorism is squarely rooted in radical Muslim populations and institutions - just as Khalistani terrorism was rooted in radical Sikh populations and institutions. This is something that must be recognised and addressed, instead of pampering or offering a constant apologia for the 'larger community'. Such an orientation undermines counter-terrorism responses everywhere. There is a constant fear of 'offending' a 'particular community', and this cannot and must not be the basis of response to specific acts of subversion or terror.

Take the case of Mohammed Afzal's death penalty in the Parliament Attack case. The man has been found guilty and sentenced to death. A clear message needs to be sent out that such acts of terrorism will meet with no clemency. As Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has said in another context, "There can be no political compromise with terror. No inch conceded. No compassion shown." Yet, there is a clear policy of indecision and delay in this case. Indeed, in December 2006, in an obvious effort of obfuscation and justification of delay, Home Minister Shivraj Patil stated in Parliament: "Statistics of the past 10 years reveal that on an average it takes seven years to decide upon a mercy petition. The law will take its own course." This is arrant nonsense. These decisions take so long, not because of procedural or legal requirements, but because of policies of deliberate procrastination and sheer neglect.

The underlying concern in the Afzal case appears to be the appeasement of the 'Muslim community'. But in thinking that Indian Muslims would be 'appeased' by clemency to the likes of Mohammed Afzal, advocates of such a policy do grave injustice to, and deeply insult, this larger community. Mr Manmohan Singh has noted, "A terrorist is a terrorist and he has no religion or community." But the actions, statements and orientation of his Government put such a perspective continuously in doubt.

There is an urgent need to look closely at the dynamics, the patterns, the networks and the processes of Islamist terrorist mobilisation wherever they occur, without the imposed inhibitions of political correctness and appeasement of particular communities. Many acts of terrorism could be neutralised long before they occur if action is taken at the right time against the processes of subversion, and the organisations engaged in radicalisation.

It is not enough to lose sleep over the trauma and predicament of the families of terrorists. The crisis of belief and education in this country, and across the world, should far more be a matter of national and international concern. If educated men are able to misread history in such a manner and to engage in acts of terrorism to vicariously punish nations and communities, this is a terrible slur on our educational system.

It is also necessary to pay close attention to our youth in India and the diaspora, to see that they do not lose contact with civil society, and are not drawn into the dark and conspiratorial world of organisations drawn from 'Osama territory' - radicalised Arab and Pakistani elements. All this demands intellectual clarity, and not the patterns of justification and apologetics that have dominated the perspectives of India's feeble intelligentsia.

**shamu** · 07-07-2007, 03:23 AM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 6 2007, 09:39 PM)Headline is so misleading, he was brainwashed by every other riots and war not only Gujarat. But hey, Rediff is now Congress and leftist mouthpiece, can't breathe without mentioning Gujaaaaaaraaaat to coverup radicalisation of Indian Muslim. <!--emo& Big Grin

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Khafeel was brainwashed with Gujarat riot tapes<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEKhafeel Ahmed, the aeronautical engineer from Bangalore who allegedly drove a flaming SUV into Glasgow airport last week, was a member of the Students Islamic Organisation, the organisation which was banned along with the Students Islamic Movement of India in 2001. 
Khafeel's contact with the SIO came about when he was staying at a Muslim hostel in Davangere as an engineering student. His friend Imran Shamil said there was a gradual change in his attitude as the years in college passed. He became more reserved and preached about Islam most of the time.

During the affiliation with SIO he also joined the Tableeghi Jamaat, the Muslim revivalist organisation that preaches a return to the religion's fundamentals, in 2003. The Jamaat is not too popular among the community thanks to the puritanical brand of Islam it advocates.
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They also said during his stint with the SIO both in Davangere and Bangalore, he was shown extensive footage of the Babri Masjid demolition in 1992, the Mumbai riots of 1993, the Gujarat riots of 2002, and also of the Iraq war. The friends believe he may have been asked to carry out the attack in London [Images] as retaliation for the UK's involvement in the Iraq war
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This is ridiculous. If they were brainwashed by Indian incidents, they will be carrying out their attacks in India and not UK.

07-07-2007, 03:41 AM

They are attacking inside India but Moron Singh is turning his empty head other side or direction directed by Queen and Aiyar.

07-08-2007, 03:26 AM

QUOTEIndia was next on Kafeel grid
Intelligence agencies have, meanwhile, gone on an overdrive to ascertain the terrorist network created by the "Bangalore boys" within India. Police investigations in the last couple of days have thrown up sufficient ammunition to believe that Kafeel and Sabeel had created a network of associates in India to launch an attack within India.

The investigating agencies are trying to ascertain whether the brothers and their cousin, Haneef, a doctor detained by Australian police, have an Al-Qaeda link.

An international driving licence was obtained from a Bangalore RTO in the name of Bilal Abdulla, the mastermind behind the UK plot, in April 2007, apparently to enable him to acquire an Indian nationality.

Prior to his departure from India on May 5, Kabeel is reported to have told his mother that he was going for an "important assignment" abroad after which he would return to Bangalore to take up a similar important assignment. Kabeel had also obtained a driving licence in Bangalore before going to the UK.

The police have seized the cellphones of Kafeel's sister and father which were used by the brothers during their stay in India. The Ahmed brothers were believed to have been in touch with a large number of foreign Muslim students studying in India.

Before he left for the UK to take up his PhD, Kafeel and Sabeel had developed differences with the administrators of the Hazrat Tipu Masjid, close to their house at Banashankari II Stage. According to the mosque authorities, the brothers had opposed some of the practices of the mosque and had asked the administration to remove the lights installed outside for illumination.

The brothers are also said to have joined the Tableeghi Jamaat, a radical Islamic group three years ago. The police are probing reports that Kafeel had organised a Chechnya Day in Bangalore in February 2006.

A computer and some hard discs seized from Kafeel's Banashankari residence and from his elder brother Sabeel are being analysed by the cyber crime cell for clues.

07-08-2007, 03:33 AM

The danger of deep religosityQUOTEPrime Minister Manmohan Singh is not known for public displays of either human emotion or political dexterity - the reasons why he survives in his job. Consequently, in deviating from a dreary script to complain about a sleepless night worrying about the troubled parents of a terror suspect, he wasn't falling back on spontaneity. Nor was he trying to be too clever arousing the motherly instincts of women journalists who had been invited to high-tea.Â

Manmohan's apparent insomnia is an affliction of convenience. It is aimed at reassuring the angst-ridden brotherhood that India wasn't going to walk that extra mile to help Prime Minister Gordon Brown confront the jihad in Britain.

The Prime Minister didn't lose sleep over those youngsters at a club in London's Haymarket who escaped being fire-bombed because a syringe failed to work; he didn't lose sleep over those Scots who were traumatised by the suicide attack on Glasgow airport. Whether it is 250 people being blown apart in Mumbai last year, farmers committing suicide because they couldn't pay off loans, and the institution of the presidency facing disrepute because of a colossal political misjudgment, the Prime Minister has never lost sleep. He is the living personification of Alfred E Neumann - unfazed, untroubled and, when expedient, unaware.

The shocking revelation that the Glasgow bomber was a Bangalore-bred, professional Muslim from a well-heeled family and holding an Indian passport has punctured many self-serving myths.

First, it has destroyed the bogus theory that Indian democracy is permanent firewall against Islamist extremism. "No Indian has ever been a part of Al Qaeda" was a boast that every second politician was fond of repeating at international fora. Now there is evidence that links Indian Muslims to the network of global terror.

Second, Kafeel Ahmed was no neo-literate member of the underclass who took to terror because previous governments had not made provisions for Muslim quotas. He was well-off and well educated.

Third, the bomber was not someone socially crippled by the supposed "alienation" of Asians in Britain. He did not fit the stereotype of the maladjusted, British-born Asian Muslim from the North of England who embraced radical Islamism as a form of social protest. Kafeel and his brother, from all accounts, couldn't give a damn about the multicultural hiccups of British society. Like Dhiren Barot, the Gujarati convert to Islam who wanted to bomb nightclubs in London because they were frequented by "slags", the Ahmeds insulated themselves from their environment and retreated into a mental ghetto.

Finally, the initial evidence points to a disturbing phenomenon: Deep religiosity as the base on which subsequent political extremism rests. The media has reported the attachment of the Ahmeds to an austere version of Sunni Islam which is popular throughout South Asia. Other studies suggest a correlation between terrorism and those Muslims who are already conditioned by regressive religious currents. In other words, terrorism stems from sustained propaganda and an insidious variety of religious evangelism. 

The most important lesson for India to emerge from Glasgow is that our political and security establishments are living in denial. We have heard Manmohan Singh, Shivraj Patil and countless secularists bore us to tears over terrorists having no religion. We have heard with surprise the Prime Minister almost pleading to the West to typecast Indians with Pakistanis - and both as terrorists.

At the same time, the lived experience points to terrorists not only possessing faith but having a rather enhanced sense of it. Experience also tells us that the stereotyping of all Indians as potential terrorists is, ironically, being egged on by Indian secularists and British multiculturalists who are seeing their pet theories of victimhood being exposed as humbug. Kafeel Ahmed was about as much a victim of injustice as the middle-class Egyptian Mohammed Atta was. Both became suicide bombers out of a fanatical commitment to an ideology of conquest and hegemony. It is that ideology Britain is targeting and which India has to target. If this involves also pumping Manmohan Singh with sedatives, we shouldn't run away from the experience.

07-08-2007, 04:03 AM

Moron Singh nonsense comments
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video...UK+terror+probe

07-08-2007, 04:09 AM

Deoband can't decide schools for us, say girls QUOTE A devout Muslim, she respects the ulema "as seniors and more experienced holy men". And that is where she would like to draw the line. The latest Deoband edict banning co-education makes the girl bristle. "I am not going to allow anyone else to run my life," she says. "Let them rule my parents... they canât rule me..." she adds as an afterthought.

"Why should we be in âhijabâ or shy away from co-ed," questions Shgufta, her junior who incidentally aspires to be a space scientist. "Kya Sunita Williams space mein gayin thi female crew ke saath (Did Sunita Williams go to space with all female crew)," Shagufta asks.

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