<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Print, electronic media laws amended: two ordinances promulgated </b>
ISLAMABAD (updated on: November 04, 2007, 04:55 PST): President General Pervez Musharraf on Saturday promulgated two Ordinances amending laws related to the print and the electronic media, prohibiting them to publish or broadcast statements that abet terrorist activities or terrorism.
The ordinances to amend the Press, Newspapers, News Agencies and Books Registration Ordinance 2002 and the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority Ordinance 2002 will be effective with immediate effect.
In the Ordinance dealing with press a new section 5A has been inserted which prohibits publication of certain material; photographs of suicide bombers, terrorists, bodies of victims, statements of militants and extremist and any other thing which promotes or abets terrorist activities or terrorism.
<b>The section also prohibits projection of any thing that is based on sectarianism, ethnicism or racialism, that defames, and brings into ridicule or disrepute the head of state, or members of the armed forces or executive, judicial or legislative organs of the state.</b>
It also prohibits any material that is likely to jeopardise or be prejudicial to the ideology of Pakistan or the sovereignty, integrity or security of Pakistan, besides any material, that is likely to incite violence or hatred or create interfaith disorder.
Under the ordinance, in a situation of emergency, the district co-ordination officer, or the deputy commissioner may suspend the declaration for a period not exceeding 30 days.
The ordinance dealing with the electronic media similarly prohibits broadcast video footage of suicide bombers, terrorists, victims, statements of militants or anything that abets terrorism.
It also directs the channels to ensure that no anchor, moderator or host propagates any opinion that is prejudicial to the ideology of Pakistan or integrity of Pakistan.
The amendment prohibits broadcast of any material that defames or brings into ridicule head of state, members of armed forces, executive or legislative or judicial organs and any programme on a matter this is subjudice. A new insertion also prohibits foreign broadcasts.
The authority or the chairman under a new sub-section may seize broadcast or distribution equipment and seal the premises and in an emergency may direct closure for a period as it may determine.
It also prohibits live coverage of incidents of violence and directs installation of time-delay equipment to prevent any such violation. The violators shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term that may extend to three years or with a fine, which may extend to ten million rupees, or with both. The distributors who violate may face imprisonment of up to one year or fine which may extend to five million rupees, or both.
Copyright APP (Associated Press of Pakistan), 2007
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Nareshji,
Now we have great burden on our shoulder. We have to help coward Pakis who are afraid of Mushy. We will provide clear picture and jokes on Mushy as usual. We are not affected by any Marshal Law or Mushyism. <!--emo&  --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
First cut an dpaste from Paki fora,
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Naa Tera Pakistan hai
Naa Mera Pakistan hai
Yeh US kaa Pakistan hai
JO sadr-e-Pakistan hai Â
<i>America ne eik kuta pala varadi wala vardai wala</i>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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RUMBLINGS of discontent in the Pakistan army were reported last night after President Pervez Musharraf adopted emergency powers to forestall a Supreme Court judgment that would have declared his rule unlawful.
Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, whose attempted sacking seven months ago provoked the series of crises leading to yesterday's emergency declaration, was marched out of the white marble Supreme Court building in Islamabad and placed under house arrest.
National and provincial assembly elections scheduled for January are unlikely to go ahead after Deputy Information Minister Tariq Azeem said last night the timetable may be "adjusted". The decree extended the tenure of national and provincial parliaments due to expire next week.
"Elections will be held but the dates may be adjusted because of emergency rule in the country," Mr Azeem said.
Declaring emergency rule, General Musharraf cited a need to rein in the judiciary and thwart the drive by al-Qa'ida- and Taliban-linked Islamic suicide bombers to create mayhem across the country.
"The government system, in my view, is in semi-paralysis. All government functionaries are being insulted by the courts, that is why they are unable to take any action," he said.
"Terrorism and extremism are at their peak. I suspect that Pakistan's sovereignty is in danger unless timely action is taken. Extremists are roaming around freely in the country, and they are not scared of law-enforcement agencies.
"Inaction at this moment is suicide for Pakistan, and I cannot allow this country to commit suicide."
As hundreds of heavily armed troops took up positions in the administrative heart of the Pakistani capital and shooting was reported on the streets of the port city of Karachi, a judge noted for his strong links to the military regime, Hameed Dogar, was sworn in as chief justice.
But in a dramatic series of events that followed General Musharraf's late-night television declaration suspending the constitution, only five of the 17 judges of the court signed oaths of allegiance to the newly proclaimed Provisional Constitutional Order.
The emergency decree snuffs out the newly found authority of the court, which has been a thorn in the side of the regime since it defeated the attempt to sack Justice Chaudhry, who was joined under house arrest by many other senior figures, including former cricketer turned politician Imran Khan. Mr Khan accused General Musharraf of committing treason, before slipping away from the guards who had encircled his home.
"He was detained along with eight supporters at the house. The supporters are at home but he has slipped away," a close relative said. "Police are still outside the house."
The decree banning criticism of General Musharraf spells an end to media freedom that had seen a blossoming of independent television stations, blamed by the regime for many of its ills.
Also banned are mass demonstrations of the type that greeted former prime minister Benazir Bhutto on her return from exile last month.
Ms Bhutto returned to Karachi from Dubai soon after emergency rule was declared. She was forced to stay in her aircraft at the port city's international airport for four hours before being allowed to travel to her home.
Last night, Ms Bhutto lambasted the declaration, saying her Pakistan People's Party would work with other democratic parties to oppose it.
"This is not emergency, this is martial law and the people of Pakistan will protest against it," she said.
Emergency rule means hopes for a power-sharing deal between Ms Bhutto and General Musharraf are now dead in the water.
"Whatever Benazir's ambitions are - and they are huge - even she could not now be seen to be playing footsy with Musharraf after this," said a newspaper editor in Karachi.
In a rare criticism of General Musharraf, the US Government last night described the declaration as "regrettable" and said it was opposed to anything that would impede Pakistan's return to democracy.
But Defence Secretary Robert Gates said he did not anticipate it would upset military co-operation between Islamabad and Washington.
With an eye to the US and Britain, which had headed off an an emergency declaration several times, General Musharraf said Pakistan was on the "verge of destabilisation".
In an attempt to forestall General Musharraf as he made the declaration, Supreme Court judges issued a late-night order calling on officials to disobey the edict, specifically appealing to army corps commanders.
Senior diplomats in Islamabad reported dismay within sections of the army, with speculation centred on the recently-appointed vice-chief of staff Ashfaq Kiyani, who is believed to favour a return to democracy.
Lieutenant General Kiyani worked closely with Ms Bhutto when she was prime minister and they are said to have maintained good relations.
"Our information is that at the very least there are misgivings in some high-ranking quarters about what Musharraf has done. But whether this will translate into action against him from within the army remains to be seen," a diplomat said.
"These are tense times. There has been no sign in the past eight years since Musharraf seized power of his support base within the army fracturing. But there are those within the army who are increasingly worried about the way they are being blamed for all the ills of the regime, and how this reflects on the army."
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Read all the reaction here.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7076981.stm
<i>"This the end for General Musharraf. If he had been a man of honour, he would have resigned when the chief justice was restored. </i>
"The emergency will not prevent the lawyers and people of Pakistan from protesting against this unconstitutional and illegal move. "Now is the time for us to get rid of Pervez Musharraf. Pervez Musharraf has ordered me to be put under house arrest for 30 days but he himself will be finished within 30 days. The countdown has started."
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<i>To gain popularity at home will the dictator now start an anti- India campaign/propaganda again? Will the heat be now directed at India? Will we now see a surge in Jehadi activities in Kashmir?</i>
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La ilaha ill-al Hind!
Karachi se Rawalpind!
From CNN Late Edition: CNN's Wolf Blitzer got an email from BBhutto, saying that they (talibs?ISI?) have plan to throw out NATO from Avagan within 1 yr and install a taliban-like govt in 1 more"
Jeay Jeay
Jeay Sindh Jeay Sindh
Na mein jhoot boloon...
La ihaha!
Sen. Specter said just now that US should invade Pak!
Wa baraktool fizlullah ka'aa u-i-o mard'aan fi-il o's
11-04-2007, 10:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-04-2007, 10:48 PM by Naresh.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 4 2007, 09:47 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 4 2007, 09:47 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Musharraf has support of US, UK </b>
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/nov/04guest.htm
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<b>Mudy Ji :</b>
I would disagree with Ex-Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar and refer you to some extracts from the following Article :
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>'Phone call' that led to emergency</span></b>[/center]
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Meanwhile, it was learnt that Pakistan Peopleâs Party Chairperson Benzir Bhutto recommended the name of Justice Abdul Hamid Dogar for new Chief Justice of Pakistan.
âThe top government quarters took BB in confidence on the issue and she nodded in favour of Mr Dogar,â the official stated.
To authenticate his information, he said that Justice Dogar was appointed by Benazir Bhutto in 1995.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. This proves that Benazir Bai - Grand Daughter of Laxmi Bai - is subservient to Mush the Tush and as such she will be unable to carry out a âDemocratization Agendaâ as being touted by the United States.
2. Lieutenant General Kiyani - now nominated to be Mush the Tushâs successor as Chief of Army Staff is indebted to Mush the Tush for his elevation by bypassing a couple of other âJernailsâ.
3. Thus the You Knighted States is out on a limb and in the cold as Benazir Bai has literally ditched the You Knighted States and joined Mush the Tush whereby he will be the Boss and she will be his Mujrah Artist - by Submitting and saying Yes!
4. It is China which has come out Victorious as the Acts of Suicide Bombing, Army Personnel Surrendering, Crossing Over to, as well as being Kidnapped by the Al Qaeda, Taliban, and Pakistani Fundamental Islamic Jehadi Terrorists etc. is an outcome of the Red Mosque Operation which Mush the Tush and the Pakistani Army carried out directly under the Orders of Higher than the Himalayas, Deeper than the Pacific Ocean and Larger than the Universe Friendship professing Friend of Pakistan.
The <b><span style='color:red'>S</span></b>anitary <b><span style='color:red'>D</span></b>epartment of the You Knighted States has been just that - a Sanitary Department - and fell for the Pakistani Ploy that the Red Mosque Operation was an act against the Terrorism being perpetrated by Al Qaeda, Taliban and the Pakistani Fundamental Islamic Jehadi Terrorists.
Thus for the You Knighted States it is a big <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>S N A F U</span></b> i.e. Situation Normal All F***ed Up!
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->4. It is China which has come out Victorious as the Acts of Suicide Bombing, Army Personnel Surrendering, Crossing Over to, as well as being Kidnapped by the Al Qaeda, Taliban, and Pakistani Fundamental Islamic Jehadi Terrorists etc<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nareshji,
We are on right track.
Yesterday, Mushy showed middle finger to Knighted states, that I will not commit sucide, if you rice is fool, what else I can do.
China is having last laugh.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Situation in Pak akin to what India faced in '75: BJP </b>
Pioneer News Service | New Delhi
The BJP on Sunday said that developments in Pakistan were akin to what India faced during the Internal Emergency imposed by the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in 1975.
Expressing solidarity with the people of Pakistan in their struggle for restoration of democracy, the main Opposition party said it was ironical that the developments were taking place in Pakistan on a day when the president of the AICC, which was responsible for the tyranny of Emergency in 1975, was accusing the BJP of being heartless and lacking concern for the people.
"The world has repeatedly witnessed democratic constitutions being subverted in the name of Emergency in order to institutionalise personal power through totalitarianism. Highlighting the threat of extremism, dangers of destabilisation, and even encroachment by the judiciary into the executive domain have been favourite slogans used by the dictators as an alibi for proclamation of Emergency," BJP general secretary Arun Jaitley said.
The senior party leader elaborated saying Adolf Hitler used the fire in Reichstag as a ground for proclaiming Emergency in Germany while Indira Gandhi used alleged attempts at destabilising the country as an alibi. "It is not surprising that General Pervez Musharraf has used terrorism and judicial encroachment into the executive domain to highlight the threat of destabilisation," Jaitley remarked.
Hitting back at the Congress and the Nehru-Gandhi family, the BJP alleged that some proclaimers of Emergency went a step further as in India they used the fear psychosis created by Emergency to institutionalise and make acceptable "a dynasty as an alternative to democracy".
"It is not uncommon for such proclaimers to claim that it is ultimately the interest of the poor that they have at heart and for whom the Emergency will seek to support through faster economic growth," Jaitley added.
The common thread in the tale of emergencies was, the BJP asserted, an inbuilt desire in the proclaimer of the Emergency to perpetuate personal power, usurp absolute power, eliminate all possibilities of losing that power and intolerance towards any form of criticism.
Maintaining that the BJP was stating this so that a very large part of Indian population born after the mid-1970s may remind itself as to what the country had faced during the period of Internal Emergency in 1975-77, the party said India displayed a great resilience in fighting the Emergency and it hopes for a similar success of the Pakistani counterparts
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>General outrage</b>
Javed Hashmi, acting president of PML-N
Imran Khan, cricket star-turned-politician
Asma Jehangir, chairman of independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan
<b>Hamid Gul, former chief of ISI</b>
Aitzaz Ahsan, lawyer who represented Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry -- all arrested
"Gen Musharraf has given supporters and sympathisers of the militants a new lease of life"
-- Benazir Bhutto
"We trust that conditions of normalcy will soon return, permitting Pakistan's transition to stability and democracy to continue"
-- India
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 5 2007, 01:01 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 5 2007, 01:01 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nareshji,
We are on right track.
Yesterday, Mushy showed middle finger to Knighted states, that I will not commit sucide, if you rice is fool, what else I can do.
China is having last laugh.
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<b>Mudy Ji :</b>
By declaring an Emergency Mush the Tush has indeed committed suicide as although he has declared an Emergency it is in fact Martial Law.
Thus he has no need to vacate the position of COAS - as you will note from the following that he has signed the Document for Emergency Proclamation as <b>C O A S</b>:
[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Text of emergency proclamation</span></b>[/center]
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Now, therefore, in pursuance of the deliberations and decisions of the said meetings, I, General Pervez Musharraf, <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Chief of the Army Staff,</span></b> proclaim emergency throughout Pakistan.
<b>I hereby order and proclaim that the constitution of the Islamic republic of Pakistan shall remain in abeyance.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As such there will most probably be no promotion for Lieutenant General Kiyani also the other Brigadier-Major-Lieutenant Generals will lose their chance of âPromotionâ.
<b>So, I would feel that Mush the Tush is hastening his tête-à -tête with the Lamppost!</b>
Thanks to the Sanitary Department of the You Knighted States, China will indeed be laughing all the way to the Bank.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUx2gGbNgcI
<b>Supreme Court had Outlawed Musharraf from Presidency</b>
<b>213 troops swapped with 25 militants in Waziristan</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->PESHAWAR/TANK: Tribal militants released 213 Pakistan Army soldiers in South Waziristan on Sunday after the government freed 25 of their men under a prisoners' swap made possible by a 21-member peace Jirga.
The soldiers had been in the custody of militants loyal to Baitullah Mahsud since August 30. They had surrendered along with 35 other troops to the militants after their military convoy was trapped in the Shawangi Naray area near Wana.
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The militants had also demanded an end to all military deployment and operations in the areas inhabited by Mahsud tribe in South Waziristan. They wanted the removal of roadside checkpoints in their area. <span style='color:red'>The government appears to have accepted most of their demands</span><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hahhaahh Paki Army <!--emo& --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<b>A Look at Rights Suspended in Pakistan</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A look at some of the restrictions and suspended rights in the state of emergency declared by Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf:
_ Protection of life and liberty.
_ The right to free movement.
_ The right of detainees to be informed of their offense and given access to lawyers.
_ Protection of property rights.
_ The right to assemble in public.
_ The right to free speech.
_ Equal rights for all citizens before law and equal legal protection.
_ Media coverage of suicide bombings and militant activity is curtailed by new rules. Broadcasters also face a t<b>hree-year jail term if they "ridicule" members of the government or armed forces.</b>
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[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>VAAR PUR VAAR KIYA - GHAV KO DHONEY NA DIYA</span></b>[/center]
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<b>Musharraf's deadly endgame</b> B Raman
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Musharraf proposes, bin Laden disposes. That may be the ultimate denouement in Pakistan. India has to be greatly concerned over the fire spreading across Pakistan. <span style='color:red'>We have no options in Pakistan itself because we have no leverage there just as we have no leverage in any part of the world. The least that our government should do is to build effective fire-walls to prevent this fire from spreading to India. The government's present policy of courting the US indiscriminately would come in the way of such firewalls</span>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same i was thinking, but Moron Singh will welcome jihadi with open arms, as they have first right in India and plus he had to follow his paymaster in west and wip in 10 Janpath..
Some sixty years have passed since the creation of Pakistan. There is no point now to continue a debate on the pros and cons of the division of India. We may better come to the present and perhaps discuss what is in store for the people of Pakistan in the coming few years. In fact, it is technically a domestic matter of Pakistan and may not have been discussed by us outsiders. Since the future of Pakistan has its ramifications not only on the entire South Asian region but also on the entire world, we may perhaps discuss the situation and analyze the same.
We all know that for one reason or other democracy has not been able to take its roots in Pakistan in a decisive manner. However, over the years while Pakistan has been switching over from one military ruler to the other with democratic intervals, the world has moved on and the geopolitical situation has undergone massive changes. USSR has vanished and USA has been attacked on its own territory by Islamic terrorists.
Till 9/11 Pakistanâs rulers have been able to play the India card with the active support of the West. In fact, they encouraged low intensity war against India by instigating cross border terrorism and the West did not take the matter seriously as bleeding India was no concern of theirs. However, after the 9/11 attack the whole situation has got changed and the West has now all the sympathy and good words for India and its sufferings in the hands of these terrorists. All the governments in the West are now pretending that they see the threat from terrorism in the same manner in which we in India see it. They are now out to cultivate India and to give continuous good advice to Pakistan and pressurize it to finish off the terrorists who have been operating from within Pakistan all these years.
You will agree that the Jihads elements present in Pakistan cannot be removed overnight nor can their bases be destroyed on the press of a button. The West through the present Government of Pakistan has been engaged in this operation for the last few years. However, the terrorists are so deep-rooted within the Pakistani society and administrative machinery that it is next to impossible to produce any tangible result in s short time. The present struggle we see within Pakistan is a result of this situation.
While the present Government is carrying out a war against terrorists, mostly at the bidding of the USA, the administrative and military apparatus is not cooperating to the extent that the mission becomes a success. The recent incidents of Pakistan troops surrendering to the rebels or refusing to fire upon them is a matter of deep concern for any government so that matter. In such circumstances, the only way to retrieve the situation is by taking strong measures first to discipline the administrative and military machinery and that needs to be followed by the cleaning up of the society of all subversive elements .In the given situation democracy cannot be of much use as it will be an impediment against enforcing hard measures.
Paki N-bomb may fall into hands of terrorists
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Nuclear-armed Pakistan is teetering on the verge of chaos after the imposition of emergency and US officials fear that the result could be every American's nightmare -- nuclear material or know-how, or even a nuclear bomb, falling into the hands of terrorists.
"If you were to look around the world for where al-Qaeda is going to find its bomb, it's right in their backyard," Bruce Riedel, the former senior director for South Asia on the National Security Council, was quoted as saying by Newsweek.
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The dilemma facing the "democracy crusader" President Bush, Newsweek says, is that Washington is left not many friends to call in <b>Pakistan -- "perhaps the number one generator of terrorism in the world"</b> -- after propping up President Pervez Musharraf for six years.
"There is perhaps no place on earth that more powerfully validates Bush's idea that democracy can be a cure for terrorism than Pakistan. And there is perhaps no place on earth that so powerfully exposes his occasional hypocrisy in failing to push for that policy," the magazine says.
Commenting on Musharraf's decision to declare a state of emergency shortly before the justices of the Pakistan Supreme Court were expected to rule that his presidency was illegal, Newsweek says US officials did the dance they always perform when it comes to his anti-democratic actions: They disapproved but expressed hope that Musharraf would see the light.
Conceding that Musharraf has been a firm "if uneven ally" against terrorism, the news magazine says, "all of this double talk illustrates the Faustian bargain that the United States has struck with Pakistan in the war on terror."
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<b>Washington was quite noticeably silent on this point, it said, adding Bhutto could not even get a hearing at the White House, belying Bush's second-term commitment "to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture."</b>
<b>The monster that Musharraf nurtured to keep himself in office is now threatening him personally,</b> the magazine says, adding al-Qaeda elements that have found increasing support in areas of Pakistan-controlled by Islamists have tried to assassinate him twice.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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