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11-08-2007, 07:27 AM

QUOTEMilitants capture Kalam in Swat Valley PESHAWAR, Nov 7 (AFP): Dozens of paramilitary troops and police surrendered their weapons to militants and retreated from the mountain town of Kalam in Swat Valley early Wednesday, a police official said. Announcements about the advance were made on a pirate FM radio station run by Mullah Fazlullah, as militants hoisted their party flag on police stations and government buildings, and distributed sweets. Fazlullah's aide, Maulana Shah Dauran, said in a radio address that the militants also took control of a paramilitary base in Kalam manned by a platoon. Some 40 Frontier Corps soldiers had left the paramilitary base before the militants arrived, residents said. Militants have seized more than two-thirds of Swat Valley in northwest Pakistan. (Posted @ 14:20 PST)

11-08-2007, 11:26 AM

Musharraf calls US congressmenQUOTEWASHINGTON: President General Pervez Musharraf on Tuesday telephoned Representative Tom Lantos and Senator Joseph Biden, heads of the House of Representatives and Senate committees on foreign relations, to try to prevent congressional restrictions in US aid to protest the emergency.

Biden told Musharraf that elections should take place in January and the rule of law should be restored. Meanwhile, Deputy Secretary of State John Negraponte was due to testify on Pakistan before the House foreign affairs committee on Wednesday, while Armed Services Committee Chairman Senator confirmed that he is reviewing the 2008 defence authorisation bill to counter terrorism efforts without undermining democratic forces in Pakistan.

11-08-2007, 11:28 AM

Musharraf's new Kangaroo court to give him 5-year termQUOTEPakistan's Supreme Court is expected to declare within days that President Pervez Musharraf can legally stay in office for another five years.

Protests continue in the Pakistani capital Islamabad as former prime minister Benazir Bhutto met other opposition leaders

If this landmark endorsement emerges, it would clear the way for Gen Musharraf to end the state of emergency having secured his grip on power. Allies predict he would then resign as army chief, in accordance with Western demands, and allow elections to be held
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11-08-2007, 11:44 AM

Pakistan denies Indian claims of forcesâ pull outQUOTEBut he said Pakistan did have troops deployed on the Line of Control, the de facto border with India in disputed Kashmir, as well as on the Siachen glacier in the Himalayas.

âNot a single soldier had been pulled back from these two deployments,â he said.

Pakistan last week moved 2,500 troops into Swat in the North West Frontier Province to counter a firebrand religious leader who is demanding Islamic Sharia law in the one-time tourist resort.

The militants have seized more than two-thirds of the key tourist valley

I hope Indians are not sleeping like 1948, 1962, 1965, Kargil. In place of BSF they should put Indian armed forces on alert. Whenever Paki Army popularity drops, they attack India to unite janta. Deaf and Dumb forum of Paki Army kids are suggesting attacking Bhutan to unite Islam. So you know what Dad's are thinking.

11-09-2007, 01:01 AM

Media under Marshal law reports - Militants vacate Kalam valleyQUOTESWAT, Nov 7: Militants vacated the scenic Kalam valley in Swat on Wednesday apparently in view of a lukewarm response from the local people to their advance. At the same time there are reports that security forces have left the area.

Armed supporters of Maulana Fazlullah had moved to the valley in the morning after capturing the towns of Bahrain and Madyan.

They hoisted their flags on a police station which had been vacated by law-enforcement personnel.

âAbout 60 militants with heavy weapons arrived in the town in 10 vehicles and captured the abandoned police station,â a resident of the area told Dawn.

However, he said, elders of the Kohistani tribe immediately convened a jirga and asked the militants to leave because they themselves could control the area.
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After the departure of the militants, a committee was formed to take care of the police station and public and private property.

Sources said that militants had consolidated their positions in Madyan and Bahrain.

11-09-2007, 02:13 AM

PAKISTANâS MELTDOWN UNDER MUSHARRAF: STRATEGIC IMPLICATIONS FOR UNITED STATES

11-09-2007, 10:37 AM

Pakistan sets election under US pressure QUOTEISLAMABAD, Pakistan - President Gen. Pervez Musharraf yielded to pressure from the United States on Thursday and said Pakistan will hold elections by mid-February. But he showed no sign of ending a political crack down, placing opposition leader Benazir Bhutto under house arrest and detaining thousands ahead of a major protest.
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US privately told BB to stay away from street demonstration.

11-09-2007, 08:52 PM

CNN, BBC transmissions blocked countrywide once again
Mushy should call Moron Singh and ask him how to block websites, India is also expert in suppressing freedom of speech.

Bomb explodes at Pakistan minister's houseQUOTEFOUR people were killed and five others wounded in a blast at the house of a federal minister in the northwestern Pakistani city of Peshawar today, police and state television reported.

Shambhu · 11-09-2007, 10:53 PM

Guests on NPR said this is the best thing that could happen to BB..she was seen as pro-compromise, now she is 400% anti-Mush...guest referred to "poll in Indian magazine Outlook"..

BTW isn't Kiyani Sindhi? He is said to be BB's pal..

11-09-2007, 11:04 PM

Kiyani is very much Sindhi. I still think Mushy is playing his cards well. Some show bazi, bum here and there, regular hafta from my tax money. Mushy is even able to pickup phone and was able to call any world leader and ask them to continue Hafta and they yes, we will Sir, you are our last hope..... Mullahs will never accept BB a woman PM, neither rest of long beard Paki Army. Things had changed in Muslim community and especially in Pakistan, Zia indoctrination is showing color. Memories of Hindu greater India had disappeared except when they refer Vedic Astrology for their life predictions.
So Pakistan needs Mard to run country other than Mushy. BB is just an Ad. Till then enjoy real time show from Wonderland called Pakistan.
Again, India should watch borders, recent attack in J&K are not isolated incidence. Mushy may move FATA fundoos to POK for next round of bleeding in J&K and rest of India.
Thanks Lord Rama, no terrorist attack during Diwali in India.

11-10-2007, 04:21 AM

Pakistan's Bhutto released from house arrest QUOTEISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto was freed from house arrest late on Friday, hours after she was stopped from leaving her Islamabad home to lead a rally against the president's imposition of emergency rule.

"The detention order has been withdrawn," said Aamir Ali Ahmed, acting deputy commissioner of Islamabad
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Bhutto, the politician most capable of galvanizing mass protests against army chief Musharraf, had appealed to police to let her through their cordon.

"The government has been paralyzed," Bhutto shouted to supporters across a barbed-wire barricade.

"If he restores the constitution, takes off his uniform, gives up the office of the chief of army staff and announces an election by January 15, then it's OK," she said, vowing defiance if Musharraf did not comply.

Police wielded batons and fired teargas to break up small protests in several parts of the country.

Shambhu · 11-10-2007, 07:42 AM

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Just saw on TV: Comedian says "The five day forecast for Pakistan is : two days".

**acharya** · 11-10-2007, 10:21 AM

A cracking Diwali

* Dandia livens up temple after 20 years

By Shahnawaz Khan

LAHORE: Diwali, the Hindu festival of lights, kicked off at Krishna Temple on Ravi Road on Friday. The festivities were special this year because the devotees danced the dandia at the temple again after 20 years.

Wearing colourful dresses and holding candles, a large number of participants, which included Hindus and representatives from many other religions eagerly waited for the festival to start on Friday. The excitement was especially high because of the scheduled dance. But it would only come after a number of rituals.

Saloni, a young Hindu girl said, âI am very excited because I have never seen the dandia live. Iâve only seen it on TV.â Sunny, a Hindu youth, said âFour years ago, we could not imagine celebrating our festivals openly, but now people have become very tolerant and have started respecting us.â He said, âFirst we are Pakistanis, then Hindus.â

The festival started with recitation from the Ramayana (an ancient Sanskrit epic which is an important part of the Hindu canon) and arti (a ritual, in which from wicks soaked in (purified butter) or is offered to the gods). After these rituals, Sunita Chand put the sindoor (red powder) on the foreheads of the participants.

Manohar Chand, secretary general of the All Pakistan Balmik Hindu Sabha, addressed the participants and gave the message of peace. Christian representative Father James Chanan, Muslim representative Mehnaz Atta and Sikh representative Gulab Singh addressed the ceremony. After the worship was complete, the participants lit small diyas (clay lamps) on all walls of the temple. This was followed by a small fireworks show in the temple during which the youngsters danced with phooljharis (firecrackers). The elders started another session of worship in which they sung hymns with music.

After the last session of worship, the dandia started. Seven couples danced with sticks to loud music. The dance last for an hour. After the dance, the administration distributed prasad and langar (charity food) among the participants.

The temple was beautifully illuminated and decorated with motifs. Banners were also displayed with Happy Diwali written in Urdu, English and Hindi.

The templeâs administrator Manohar Chand said the Evacuee Trust Property (ETPB) had played a vital role in organising the Diwali celebrations. The police had provided foolproof security arrangement. A metal and explosives detector was also installed at the templeâs gate.

Foreign students celebrate: Several foreign Hindu students studying in various institutions of the city celebrated Diwali at Krishna Mandir on Friday.

Yogita Bista, a Nepalese student at the University of Engineering and Technology (UET), told Daily Times that she had enjoyed the Diwali celebrations. She said the festival was celebrated for five days in Nepal, each day having a different theme. She said she missed her family, especially because on Saturday the people in Nepal would celebrate the fourth day of the festival, the Bhai Tikal, in which the Nepalese girls worshipped their brothers and prayed for their (brothersâ) long lives. She said the though reminds her of her brother.

Bibecha, a Bhutanese student at Fatima Jinnah Medical College, told Daily Times that she missed her family on the festival. She said she had bought a new dress for the festival and had invited all her friends to a party. Modnath, a Nepalese student at the Punjab university (PU) Institute of Communication Studies, told Daily Times that he had arranged a party at PU hostel number 2 to celebrate the festival.

The Pak Nepal Mitrat, a society working to improve relations between Pakistan and Nepal, has arranged a ceremony for the Nepalese students to celebrate Diwali.

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Diwali being celebrated at Saddarâs Swami Narain temple Friday night.

11-10-2007, 10:37 AM

I don't get it guys....why all the sudden enthusiasm in celebrating a kuffar festival? Has the emergency declaration rattled them that badly?

11-10-2007, 11:12 AM

QUOTEI don't get it guys....why all the sudden enthusiasm in celebrating a kuffar festival? Has the emergency declaration rattled them that badly? 
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ravish · (This post was last modified: 11-10-2007, 02:34 PM by ravish.)

In the last hours many people are in the habit of doing some good, before their final departure to haven or hell--depending on the flight schedule.

Naresh · 11-10-2007, 03:13 PM

QUOTE(thayilv @ Nov 10 2007, 10:37 AM)I don't get it guys....why all the sudden enthusiasm in celebrating a kuffar festival? Has the emergency declaration rattled them that badly?
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Pakistani Muslims' enthusiasm for celebrating a kuffar festival? What an Oxymoron!

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[center]Justice Bhagwandas held in solitary confinement on Dewali[/center]

ISLAMABAD : While Hindus worldwide were celebrating Dewali on Friday all, the only Hindu and one of the senior-most judges of the Supreme Court of Pakistan spent the day alone, under house arrest and solitary confinement because he has refused to support what he considers unconstitutional action by the âmilitary regimeâ.

Sacked Justice Rana Bhagwandas, who refused to take oath under Provisional Constitutional Order (PCO) promulgated on November 3, remained confined was not allowed to even visit his brotherâs home here in G-10 on one of the holiest days of the Hindu calendar.

All this runs contrary to on-the-record statements issued by the attorney general (AG) that all judges are free to move wherever they want, and that there are no formal restrictions on their mobility. Questions are also arising with regards to the claims and portrait of President General Pervez Musharraf as a torch bearer of religious tolerance and harmony.

Bhagwandas happens to be a very religious person. He has never missed his religious festivals. He told Daily Times on the phone: âI used to participate in Dewali every year in Karachi with my family, relatives and associates. This year I am not even allowed to celebrate it with my brother or community in Islamabad.â

He said chief justices used to facilitate him by scheduling sittings for him in the Karachi registry bench before Dewali every year.

On Thursday, the government offered him a mobile squad that would escort him on Friday if he wanted to move about in the city. He told a district magistrate that he planned to visit his brotherâs house in G-10 and two other places within the city.

After hearing him out, Bhagwandas said the magistrate talked to the cityâs deputy commissioner, who contacted the senior government officials, and finally denied his request. He said he was told that he could go to Karachi.

âI had no plan to leave the city. I just wanted to visit some friends and my brotherâs family in Islamabad and worship with them but they [the government] did not allow me,â he said.

Bhagwandas, who has stayed calm during his house arrest, which has lasted for one week and counting, said his morale was still high.

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11-10-2007, 05:04 PM

Mudy, Ravish

...Or they could be hedging their bets and waiting to see if this fiasco goes south any further at which point they'll make a beeline for India!

I think we are already seeing the beginning of that with the paki elite coming to India for medical treatment ( Nawaz's wife for ex)

11-10-2007, 11:22 PM

Back Musharraf to secure nuke weapons, US told

11-11-2007, 12:09 AM

QUOTEI think we are already seeing the beginning of that with the paki elite coming to India for medical treatment ( Nawaz's wife for ex)
Nah, its cheap in India and you never know who is footing bills, may be Indian Government or Deobandi leaders.
Elite or floaters always look for money, after Islamic invasion majority of court Hindus converted first, just to keep money in family, later majority of them joined Pakistan now they will float where money is. Its in blood.

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