BJP Future - 5

11-09-2007, 12:37 AM

Public reaction -
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Happy Diwali BJP
by Rahul Gandhi on 08 Nov 2007
Congrats BJP! Happy Diwali BJP! I am thinking to join your party - Rahul Gandhi, Congress(Italian)

Better late than never
by P.P. TALWAR on 08 Nov 2007
IT IS GOOD that wisdom has at last prevailed in alowing BJP led coalition govemnment in Karnataka to form the govenmnft of its own.IUn demoractic se up it is the right decision by the central government.

BJP gets Diwali gift: Chief Minister in South
by Ajit M. Patel on 08 Nov 2007
Governor Rameshwar Thakur was bias to BJP. BJP must take initaitive to remove Thakur as Governor of Karnataka.

I AM VERY HAPPY!
by veerar on 08 Nov 2007
Let this dignified party,get more seats!

 Let the spirit of fabulous Vijaynagara Empire prevail
by Tathagata Mukherjee on 08 Nov 2007
This is historic day - let the spirit of Vijaynagar Empire, pinnacle of Hindu Civilization, now prevail in Karnataka (and India).Please provide a responsive Govt.One of the tasks BJP must do is to release hindu temples from clutches of Govt control and its money being used to build more xtian churches and mosques.

revocation of presidential rule in karnatka
by k.narayana chetty on 08 Nov 2007
it is right decision. it could have been better if the decision could have taken a couple of days earlier, to better centre's image of impartiality. all is well, when it ends well. with best wishes to new c.m. shri yediyurappa and hope coalision govt. completes its terms and will take care of bangalore's infrastructure problems and general public's troubles and trials.- knc

Â Hope Greedy Gowda 
by kumar on 08 Nov 2007
Moral and ethical responsibility demands JD(S) to honour the pact agreed upon 20 months ago with the BJP in Karnataka and hand over power on October 3. As far as party supremo H D Deve Gowda is concerned, it is unbecoming of a former prime minister to stoop so low as to disregard commitment of his own ideology and bringing discredit to the party as a whole. Him and his two sons have more foes than friends. In order to have firm control and supremacy over state politics, the family coterie is distancing itself with all and sundry. The running battle with NICE company which is doing the BMIC project is a good example of this.Gowda (oue Ex-PM if people have forgotten) should realise that giving due chance to those with whose support they are running the government for more than 20 months is an essential element in coalition dharma. Does this proove that politics is a dirty profession (incl prostitution) than anything you can dream off.

ridiculous
by moin on 08 Nov 2007
This is one of the most ridiculous events that Karnataka has witnessed.These politicians are racing for power at all costs.They seem to use the words democracy, secularism, nationalism at their whims and fancies.Time to vote out politicians who has failed his political standings.Its time people of india should have Zero (0) tolerance for such idiots.

Â President's Rule in Karnataka Revoked.
by Vedapushpa on 08 Nov 2007
As of now - the Congress-initiated efforts at thwarting the resumtion of the BJP-JD[s] Coalition at its second twenieth month Term has been rightly ignored by the Governor to pave the way for the discontinuation of the President's Rule and the the further due political processes. The judical hearing as regards the claims by Vatal Nagaraj and Others in the matter of the State Assembbly requisites is pending though. However - it will be the earnest hope of every citizen-proper that the State has seen the end of Mr Devegowda's politically highly improper 'inheristence claims' - as it were over any of the State-matters. And - it will be as much a requirement that the BJP's public debate or dialogue or rejoinders shall be 'politically proper' sans the usage of terms like 'step-motherly attitude'; 'marriage/divorce' 'honeymoon and the like - as those issues can very well be taken objection to by a serious-minded irate citizen - man or woman - and can get the Party a judicial stricture for the said wrong. VedapushpaBangalore.

**acharya** · 11-09-2007, 02:45 AM

I had told somebody before - Yeddyurappa will become the CM of Karnataka on Diwali!

**shamu** · 11-09-2007, 03:25 AM

QUOTE(acharya @ Nov 9 2007, 02:45 AM)I had told somebody before - Yeddyurappa will become the CM of Karnataka on Diwali!

Was that a guess turned to truth by fluke or based on some insider info? <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='dry.gif' />

11-09-2007, 03:28 AM

It was me. <!--emo& Big Grin

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Its all because of Budh return back, Shukr well placed and 21st Jupiter will change house. <!--emo& Big Grin

--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /> To be lucky, one need everything, he had blessing of Mata Vashino Devi, I am surprised people from south also visit Mata Vashino Devi.

Congress had no choice; whole world is watching nuclear powered poor countries of Indian Subcontinent, west would have pulled rug under India, Pamela Con-stable would have got golden opportunity to write equal equal failed state. BJP is largest party; Congress will get more chance to play its fascist ideology.

**acharya** · 11-09-2007, 04:03 AM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 8 2007, 09:58 AM)It was me. <!--emo& Big Grin

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Its all because of Budh return back, Shukr well placed and 21st Jupiter will change house.Â <!--emo& Big Grin

--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />Â To be lucky, one need everything, he had blessing of Mata Vashino Devi, I am surprised people from south also visit Mata Vashino Devi.


My inlaws have visited Vaishno Devi Temple. Lot of peopledo when they go for Kashi/Hardwar.

ramana · 11-09-2007, 11:47 AM

Kumarswamy upto old tricks already!

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11-09-2007, 11:54 AM

The Government in Karnataka is unlikely to last long, given the ambitious agenda of all participating political parties, so be prepared for an election.

**acharya** · 11-10-2007, 03:18 AM

Fear tactics and psy ops being used. THis is a method political sociology by creating a false image of another social group

Deve Gowda responsible for BJP coming to power: Poojary

Staff Correspondent
B. Janardhana Poojary
MANGALORE: The former Karnataka Pradesh Congress Committee president B. Janardhana Poojary, MP, alleged here on Friday that H.D. Deve Gowda, Janata Dal (Secular) president, and his family members would be responsible for paving the way for a âcommunal Chief Ministerâ from the BJP rising to power in the State.

Addressing presspersons here, he alleged that Mr. Gowda was playing a âdramaâ to appease minorities.

He termed the developments that led to the BJP and Janata Dal (Secular) coming together to form the government in the State again as âunfortunate.â âA âcommunalâ Chief Minister is taking charge. It is Deve Gowda who colluded with the BJP. He is responsible for the same. It will go into the history and people will not forget the action of Mr. Gowda,â Mr. Poojary alleged.

He claimed that D.V. Sadananda Gowda, president of the State unit of the BJP, recently alleged in Shimoga that the former Chief Minister H. D. Kumaraswamy had swindled crores of rupees during his tenure. The government must hold an inquiry into the same. At the same time Mr. Kumaraswamy had said that the BJP was responsible for communal violence at Ullal. An inquiry should be conducted into the role of BJP in the Ullal violence, he said.

Mr. Poojary alleged that the BJP has begged for power with the Janata Dal (Secular) and the Centre. If it had any morality, it should have refrained from aligning with the party again, he said.

He claimed that Governor Rameshwar Thakur had acted as per the Constitution and consulted experts in recommending the Centre to revoke Presidentâs Rule.

11-12-2007, 02:29 AM

QUOTE'Tackling corruption, rural growth priority' 
Pioneer News Service | Bangalore
ard-core RSS worker, Yediyurappa says he would strive to activate bureaucracy
BS Yediyurappa, the new face of the BJP in south India, is a hardcore RSS worker, who rose from the ranks to occupy the Chief Minister's post.

The 64-year-old Bookanakere Siddalingappa Yediyurappa will be sworn-in as Chief Minister on Monday. Born on February 27, 1943, in Mandya district, he was deputed by the RSS to Shikaripura in Shimoga district in 1965 to build the RSS cadre there.

It was a long struggle for the son of a farmer who lost his mother when he was four years.

Starting as a member of the local municipality, Yediyurappa was elected to the Karnataka Assembly in 1993 from Shikaripur. He has been representing the constituency since then, except for a break in 1999 when he lost the seat to the Congress.

Married to Mythra Devi, who passed away three years ago, he has two sons and three daughters.

Known for being short-tempered, the senior BJP leader who built up the party in the State along with former Union minister Ananth Kumar, Yediyurappa has mellowed in the recent years, especially after he became the deputy chief minister.

Umadevi, Yediyurappa's daughter said: "Our father remained short-tempered with all of us when he did not like certain things. However, his anger was short-lived. I believe it is this nature of getting angry for a 'valid reason' that has led him to this stage today."

The Chief Minister-designate is a firm believer in astrology which made him recently replace the letter 'i' from his name with 'y'. The change of the letter has not only brought him luck, but could also help sub-editors in newspaper offices who can simply call the new Chief Minister as 'Yeddy' while giving headlines to the reports!

Yediyurappa has had many ups and downs in his 35-year-long political career. There was a time two years ago, when Yediyurappa even wanted to join the Congress or the JD(S), if he was offered a ministerial berth. It was the efforts of senior BJP troubleshooter M Venkaiah Naidu, who prevailed on Yediyurappa to remain in the BJP. That was during the height of his tussle with his colleague Ananth Kumar.
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On the eve of his swearing-in, Yediyurappa said rural development, checking corruption, and activating bureaucracy were top on his agenda. "The primary challenge before me is to ensure that rural people live in peace, get all the amenities and see that they do not get distressed in life."

Probably, his biggest challenge will be to deal with the coalition partner Janata Dal (Secular), controlled by the family of former Prime Minister HD Deve Gowda

11-12-2007, 02:31 AM

QUOTEAdvani, Rajnath to attend Yediyurappa's swearing-in today
New Delhi: Senior BJP leaders, including LK Advani and party president Rajnath Singh, will attend the swearing-in ceremony in Bangalore on Monday of BS Yediyurappa, saffron party's first Chief Minister in a southern State. The party is looking at the occasion as an event heralding the entry of the saffron party in southern India as a force to reckon with.Â

Bodhi · (This post was last modified: 11-12-2007, 02:05 PM by Bodhi.)

yours truely reports from Bangaluru. Main roads are swamped with BJP workers coming in to the city from everywhere, and it seems like a Diwali mela going on - an extended celebration of Diwali. BJP activists everywhere. Leaders including the CMs of NDA-ruled states make a line to watch the first Lotus blossoming in Dakshin Bharat. Attendees include film personalities and cricketers - new Indian Test Cricket captain being one of them. Thanks that I reached where I had to reach early in the morning - before all the fun began on the roads.

**shamu** · 11-12-2007, 02:10 PM

Bodhiji, it will be nice if you could post some photograhs and/or youtube video, of the saffron wave in Bangaluru.

Bodhi · (This post was last modified: 11-12-2007, 03:07 PM by Bodhi.)

Ashyamji, I did not take photos, and now am far from the eventful roads, I can not take. I am sure tomorrow's news papers will be full of them.

ramana · 11-13-2007, 03:59 AM

Here is one from Deccan Chronicle:

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ramana · 11-16-2007, 04:46 AM

Vitriolic article in Deccan Chronicle, 16 Nov 2007

QUOTEBJPâs debut in South
By S. Viswam

Indian secularismâs southern citadel has shaken, but not yet fallen. The saffron wave has only penetrated what was once regarded impenetrable. The Bharatiya Janata Party has emerged as the senior partner in the BJP-Janata Dal (Secular) coalition government now in power in Karnataka. That exalted position formally marks the BJPâs debut in South India, all the four States which have successfully resisted for six decades the advent of a communally tainted political formation.Â <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' /> To Karnataka goes the distinction (to call it "honour" would invite protest!) of hosting a BJP-led government for the first time in the South. But, give the devil its due. We must not grudge the BJP and its well-earned and well-deserved achievement. It pursued its aim of getting a foothold in the South with single-minded determination.

It took the BJP two decades and more to touch the fringes of power: it was the junior partner in coalition with the JD(S) for 20 months. It has taken nearly three decades for the BJP to taste power on its own. There have been years of hard work and patient political mobilisation that saw the party overcoming challenges to its growth. The party pursued a strategy that enabled it to strike roots in rural Karnataka first and then extend its clout to the urban areas. Indeed, it can be appropriately said that the BJPâs claim of being a party with a difference was more valid in Karnataka than in any other southern State.

The BJP kept a low profile in the initial years of its career and then turned aggressive and combative in later years. This strategy, in turn, brought it political dividends although at the cost of dividing the society. Ironically though, Karnataka was not the saffron parivarâs first target for penetration. It was perhaps the last in its calculations of political prospects in the four southern States. This was partly because Karnataka was till the other day a "rock solid" Congress State and partly because, more than its leaders, the people of Karnataka were, in a sense, devotees of Mahatma Gandhi and in love with the Congress ideology. It was not uncommon for the Congress to win all the Stateâs 28 seats in the Lok Sabha. If non-Congress parties could dent the Congress fort in Karnataka, it was because the breakaway groups were led by leaders committed to Gandhijiâs values and nurtured by the Congress ideals and traditions. They were all committed Congressmen basically mouthing the same ideology, but they were all disillusioned with the prevalent "Congress culture" and wanted to strike out a more principled path. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' />:

Kerala was the saffron parivarâs choice as the first southern State to attempt a foray. The "attack" on Kerala was mounted by the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, with the erstwhile Jan Sangh (now the BJP) and Ramrajya Parishad and sundry Hindu groups in toe. The RSS registered initial successes in weaning away a sizable section of the Hindu community from local parties, a large number of whom were in the field. The RSS pursued a strategy typical of its own: it started dividing the society along communal-religious lines. The strategy worked up to a point, but eventually the RSS could not penetrate the strong ideological base that the communists had established after Independence. Indeed, the first non-Congress government in Kerala was formed by the Communists who seized power through the ballot box in mid-sixties of the 20th century.

Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu were cool to the BJPâs initial overtures. The BJP experimented with the RSSâ divide-and-benefit strategy in the beginning but was effectively thwarted even though the party was able to engineer some communal clashes here and there. Clearly, the Andhra and Tamil societies found no real appeal in the Hindutva campaign, for the simple reason that in both the States the Hindus and Muslims have an enviable history of communal harmony. {Maybe society in both states was dhimmified albiet differently?}Tamil Nadu, for instance, never experienced a communal riot in the first four post-Independence decades. The same was the case in the other States. However, the "credit" for sowing the seeds of communal hatred and mutual suspicion between the two communities in all the four southern States goes to the BJP. The BJPâs politics introduced religion-oriented passions and changed the Hindu-Muslim equations substantially for the worse.

The BJPâs growth in Karnataka has been truly phenomenal. It won only 18 seats in the 224-member State Assembly in 1983 (its first participation in electoral politics in the State), only four seats in 1985 and only two seats in 1989. However, from 1990 onwards, its electoral fortunes rose in comparison with the decline in those of the Congress. In 1984, it won 40 seats, in 1999, 43 seats and in 2004, as many as 79 seats overtaking its two immediate rivals the Congress and the JD(S).

One may not agree with the BJPâs divisive ideology nor commend its highly unprincipled and opportunistic political style. But there can be no argument over the fact that in Karnataka at least it is a party that was wronged twice. In the first instance, the Congress and the JD(S) joined hands after the 2004 Assembly polls in a power-sharing arrangement to pre-empt the BJP from staking a claim to form the government by virtue of its being the largest single party. In the second instance, the JD(S) reneged on its commitment to transfer power to the BJP after 20 months although nothing that the BJP had done during its partnership with the JD(S) merited such punishment, at least nothing compared to what its Gujarat counterpart accomplished in 2002.{Now collective guilt!} Yet, the JD(S) precipitated a first class political crisis necessitating the imposition of Presidentâs rule on the specious plea that a BJP government in power could engineer communal clashes since it was engaged in the process of establishing a "communal laboratory" in Karnataka.

It is needless to recount the happenings between October 3, when the JD(S) refused to transfer power and November 12 when the BJP nominee Mr. B.S. Yeddyurappa (who was the deputy chief minister in the outgoing coalition) was sworn in as the new Chief Minister. The events are too fresh in public memory to warrant repetition. However, it is essential to record that politics really hit an all-time low during the period under Presidentâs rule with politicians belonging to all the three major parties, the Congress, the JD(S) and the BJP displaying political opportunism of the most depraved variety. They set a new record in political chicanery, dishonesty and total bankruptcy of ethical values in their naked obsession with and greed for power. {The high and mighty attitude of the journalist! While he probably got free perks in the Journalist colony in Banjara Hills.}

The BJPâs debut in the South raises two questions. Can the party replicate its achievement in any other southern State? The short answer: most unlikely since the political ground in the other three States is not as fertile as in Karnataka. Second, what about the Yeddyurappa governmentâs stability and longevity? It will be imprudent to answer yes or no, since the existing ground realities do not encourage any bets on its survival. Even a "may be" answer is only possible after the present confusion ends. It is to be seen if the BJPâs luck holds out for 20 months more or it too goes the way of all flesh!



Gives a good idea of what BJP is against in South India. In AP the people are dhimmified due to Nizam's rule. In TN they are also dhimmified and socially engineered during British rule. The reason Karnataka was able to see thru pseudo-secularism is due to the independence under the Mysore Maharaja rule.
The Congress rule was an extension of the good work that the Mahatma did.

Shambhu · 11-16-2007, 08:46 AM

Those who call the BJP "communal" must be called "self-haters", "anti-hindu", "free-riders", "terrorist loving liars" etc. Pick your choice, pro-truth presswallas, but quickly. Why are these Kawngressi-Commies allowed to get away with calling BJP "communal" when it is the only non-communal party in the mix?

11-16-2007, 02:47 PM

Shri Shambhuji,
Firstly the Hindu community as such needs to be mobilised on religious lines, so that they can become the most powerful political force in India.This is the most important aspect in a Hindu's war of survival amongst the non belivers. The problem is that the Hindu community in India as very much a divided force and is thus unable to put up a united candidate in the elections. The salvation of the Hindus rests on its attaining 2/3rd majority in Parliament.The present coalition setups in Indian political arena will not be able to throw up any such all Hindu political formation.None of the present political parties are in a position to have its presence felt on the entire nation.Till such a polarisation of forces takes place,it will always be a mix up of seculars, communals and leftists.If you have any intention of leaving the Microsoft key board and join us in the rural areas for mobilising the Hindus, do let us know , we shall meet.

Shambhu · 11-16-2007, 08:46 PM

Shri Ravishji,

But there is really no law saying that the "Microsoft keyboard" cannot be used by cannot be used to tell people about things is there? Maybe certain influential people do pickup things from what certain "Microsoft keyboard"s have put out and maybe that soemthing does becone common knowledge down the line amongst the masses..And just, maybe, lots of things do need to be done in parallel. Maybe there is a bulwark of secularized dhimmis out there who have tremendous faith in the media, and who need to be reached out to in addition to any rural outreach (which certainly needs to be done). Maybe "Microsoft keyboard" owners know this... <!--emo& Smile

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11-17-2007, 10:52 PM

BJP flays PM, Sonia for ignoring Nandigram
New Delhi: The BJP today criticised Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress President Sonia Gandhi for not mentioning Nandigram violence in their speeches at the AICC session and questioned whether their "deafening silence" indicated their approval of the "mayhem" against Muslims there.

The party also took strong objection to Gandhi's allegation about BJP indulging in "obstructionist" politics, saying it reflects her "undemocratic mindset".

"Beyond the semantics and pseudo-minority tokenism, what is shocking is the deafening silence of the Prime Minister and Congress president over the atrocities committed against Muslims in Nandigram," party spokesperson Ravi Shankar Prasad said.

"Does their continuing silence indicate that their conscience has been effectively overshadowed by the compulsion of power and the urge to hold on to it at any cost," Prasad said attacking Singh and Gandhi for not mentioning Nandigram in their speeches at AICC session.

Alleging that CPI(M) cadres had indulged in "mass rape and state-organised mayhem" in Nandigram, the BJP leader asked: "will the Prime Minister and Congress president come on record and let the nation know" whether it bears "their stamp of approval?" About Rahul Gandhi and the young MPs being projected at the AICC session, Prasad said BJP feels that the young leaders of Congress lacked "political potential".

Referring to the arrest of three Jaish-e-Mohammad terrorists in Lucknow yesterday, he asked the UPA government to resolve to combat terror regardless of "political consequences" in the light of the development in Uttar Pradesh.

PTI

11-18-2007, 07:37 AM

QUOTEVHP plans goodwill mission for Modi

NEW DELHI, Nov. 17: Burying the hatchet with the Gujarat chief minister, Mr Narendra Modi, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad will embark on a goodwill mission for Mr Modi ahead of next monthâs Assembly elections in the state. As part of its âfeel-goodâ mission, the senior VHP leader, Mr Ashok Singhal, will visit Gujarat on 21 November. Sources said the objective of the visit would be to meet disgruntled Sangh cadres and a wide range of VHP functionaries to ensure that there is no impediment for BJP candidates or the partyâs poll prospects but also to urge them to give up their anti-Modi stand. VHP sources said it was more important to first win the elections. âWhere would the VHP or RSS be in Gujarat if the BJP goes out of power in the stateâ the sources said. SNS


First right step from VHP.

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