Pakistan News And Discussion-13

[Guest]

Today US primetime News did lot of BB bashing. They are creating impression that she is no good and big crock. Who paid ?
<b>link</b> Enjoy it

<b>BE CAREFUL OF PAKISTAN'S 'MS. LIBERTY' </b>
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[Naresh]

[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Bhutto says Pakistan's Musharraf must step down</span></b> <!--emo&:liar liar--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/liar.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='liar.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->LAHORE, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto called on Tuesday for military leader Pervez Musharraf to step down as president <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>and said she would never serve as prime minister under him.</span></b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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[Guest]

<!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> जब हिंदू जज के लिए पाक में जलीं मोमबत्तियां
13 Nov 2007, 1455 hrs IST,पीटीआई
इस्लामाबाद : पाकिस्तान में सुप्रीम कोर्ट के एकमात्र हिंदू जज राणा भगवानदास के प्रति एकजुटता दिखाने के लिए यहां सौ से भी अधिक लोगों ने कॉफी दुकान पर मोमबत्ती और दीये जलाकर दीवाली मनाई। जज भगवानदास को पाकिस्तान में इमरजेंसी घोषित किए जाने के बाद नज़रबंद कर दिया गया है और इसकी वजह से उन्हें दीवाली मनाने की भी इज़ाजत नहीं दी गई।

लोगों ने इसके साथ ही संदेश लिखकर जज भगवानदास के प्रति अपनी भावनाओं का भी इजहार किया। एक संदेश में लिखा था, ' जज भगवानदास और आपके 6 साथी जजों को भविष्य में उम्मीदें जगाने के लिए धन्यवाद। हम आपके हमेशा शुक्रगुजार रहेंगे और आप इतिहास में ज़िंदा रहेंगे।'

भगवानदास सुप्रीम कोर्ट के उन जजों में से हैं जिन्होंने राष्ट्रपति परवेज मुशर्रफ द्वारा लगाई गई इमरजेंसी को अनुमोदित करने से इनकार कर दिया था और उलटे इसे अवैध करार दिया था। इसके बाद ऐसा करने वाले सभी जजों को नज़रबंद कर दिया गया था।

दीवाली के दिन जज भगवान दास अपने सरकारी निवास पर अकेले थे। उन्होंने अख़बार डेली टाइम्स को बताया, ' हर साल मैं कराची में अपने परिवार, रिश्तेदारों और सहयोगियों के साथ दीवाली मनाता था लेकिन इस साल मुझे अपने भाइयों और अपने समुदाय के लोगों के साथ इस पर्व को मनाने की अनुमति नहीं दी गई।'

इसके बाद शनिवार को करीब सौ लोग यहां जमा हुए और जज भगवान दास के प्रति एकजुटता दिखाते हुए मोमबत्तियां और दीये जलाकर दीवाली मनाई। कॉफी दुकान के प्रवेश द्वार पर लिखा था, 'जज भगवान दास को दीवाली की शुभकामनाएं'।

इसमें भाग लेने वाले 23 वर्षीय समर अब्बास क़ाज़ी ने बताया, 'हम जज साहब के समर्थन में जमा हुए हैं। हम यह दिखाना चाहते हैं कि पाकिस्तानियों को इस बात की परवाह है कि उन्हें उनका सबसे बड़ा त्योहार नहीं मनाने दिया गया। यह ठीक उसी तरह है जैसे कोई हमें ईद न मनाने दे।'
minimal translation:
100 Muslims in Pak gathered in a coffee shop to celebrate Diwali on behalf of Supreme Court Justice Bhagwan Das Rana who is under house arrest.

[Guest]

<b>Pak govt contacts Nawaz Sharif </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Islamabad, Nov 13: In a surprise move, the Pakistani government on Tuesday opened another channel of communication with former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. The move came after another former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto said that her party had ended all talks with Musharraf. According to reports, the contact, meant for "political reconciliation", was made between Sharif aides and President Pervez Musharraf’s team.

<b>Industrialist Iqbal Z Ahmed, believed to be close to Musharraf, rushed to Jeddah today with other close aides of the military ruler for talks with Sharif,</b> Dawn News channel reported.

Ahmed was closeted with Sharif in Saroor palace, his home in Jeddah, for talks aimed at reconciliation and "greater political understanding", the channel reported.
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Chalo, other puppet is available.
Now it will be real popcorn time, BB, Nawaz and Mushy real time show.
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[Guest]

<b>Dozen US rights groups ask Bush to cut off military aid to Pakistan</b>

<b>White House cautious on Pakistan crisis</b> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is sending its No. 2 diplomat to Pakistan to tell President Pervez Musharraf in person to rescind emergency rule and allow free and fair elections.

<b>Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte,</b> now on a four-nation West Africa tour, will go to Pakistan by the end of the week to underscore U.S. concerns about the situation as Musharraf resists pressure to return to constitutional rule or to free opposition leader Benazir Bhutto who has been placed under house arrest for a second time
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[Guest]

<img src='http://www.paklinks.com/gsmedia/files/40810/mush.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
mushy called bush SOB in a meeting with journalists.
And those journalists said on tv if bush is SOB , so mushy.
Thats way they were deported, and Mushy is sweating

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pakistan rejects Commonwealth suspension threat</b> ISLAMABAD, Nov 13 (AFP) - Pakistan on Tuesday strongly rejected a Commonwealth deadline to end emergency rule in 10 days or face suspension, expressing “deep disappointment and regret” over the ultimatum. “Pakistan expresses deep disappointment and regret over the statement issued by the Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group (CMAG) yesterday,” the foreign ministry said in a statement. Pakistan “firmly rejects the CMAG announcement and demands that are based on lack of realism and absence of understanding.” (Posted @ 21:04 PST)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pakistan nukes under control:</b> Musharraf WASHINGTON, Nov 13 (AFP) - Pakistan's nuclear weapons are under “total custodial controls,” President Pervez Musharraf told Fox News radio Tuesday, moving to calm concerns over the arms amid major political turmoil in his country. “They are under total custodial controls,” Musharraf told the network, citing security measures in place since 2000, according to a transcript of the interview. “We created a strategic planning division and we have a national command authority which is overall organization institution into development and employment of strategic assets,” he said. (Posted @ 22:06 PST)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Naresh]

<b>[center]<span style='color:green'>Foreign debt reaches record level of $41.67 Billion</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->KARACHI - <b>Pakistan’s foreign debt and liabilities have set a new record by hitting 41.67 billion dollars in first three months of this financial year.</b>

In foreign exchange, the external debt and liabilities surged by $ 1.5 billion in just three months of the current financial year which is also a record in the history of the country.

The external debt and liabilities of the country increased to $ 41.67 billion during first quarter of this fiscal, July-Sept FY08, as against $ 40.17 billion foreign debt/liabilities in FY07.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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[Guest]

Today Mushy was behaving like a cry baby. During interview he told journalist that they like BB because she is a woman, good looking and speak very good English. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
He told them, democracy is not important but stability of country is more important, Paki Army is securing nukes.
Basically, he was telling world, that stick with Paki Army otherwise end of world.

Watch Mushy interview

[Naresh]

<b>Benazir Bai Ji’s Letter to Peter Galbraith - dated 31-09-1990 - on being Sacked by the President - Army as Prime Minister :</b>

<img src='http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20071114/Sub_Images/1100298727-1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

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[Guest]

wow!!!
she was asking help from India, actually she can ask Moron Singh, he himself will stand on border along with whole Indian Army to protect BB.

[Guest]

Nareshji, What's the source of that BB letter. On top it's got Karachi address and bottom footer lists a Washington DC address.
It's really troubling to see that BB wants Indian troops to 'engage' Paki troops to save her political a$$!!!! Was she on diet of Paki hasish when she wrote it (if she did)?

[Guest]

Looks like a fake letter created by deaf and dumb forum of Paki Army kid's

[Guest]

<b>Nareshji,</b>
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Now I know Pakis and Pakis Army are normal, still predictable, which is good, otherwise I was bit worried.

<b>India protests against Pakistan envoy house break-in</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India said on Wednesday it had registered a strong protest with Pakistan against a break-in at the house of its envoy in Islamabad.

A statement from the Indian foreign ministry said the incident had occurred on the night of Nov. 12 but did not elaborate.

"A strong protest has been lodged with the government of Pakistan in Islamabad and with the High Commission of Pakistan in New Delhi," it said
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[Naresh]

<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+Nov 14 2007, 09:03 PM-->QUOTE(Viren @ Nov 14 2007, 09:03 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nareshji, <b>1. What's the source of that BB letter. 2. On top it's got Karachi address and bottom footer lists a Washington DC address. </b>

It's really troubling to see that BB wants Indian troops to 'engage' Paki troops to save her political a$$!!!! Was she on diet of Paki hasish when she wrote it (if she did)?
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<b>Viren Ji :</b>

<b>1. It is from the Urdu Newspaper "Express"

2. The Top Right Hand Address is the Address of the "Sender" - Benazir Bai Ji and The Bottom Left Corner is the Address of the Addressee - in this case Peter Galbraith</b>

The Letter could have been planted by the ISI in the Urdu "Express".

Let us see Benazir Bai Ji's reaction!

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[Naresh]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 14 2007, 10:04 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 14 2007, 10:04 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Nareshji,</b>
Lo karlo !! I was on dot  <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Now I know Pakis and Pakis Army are normal, still predictable, which is good, otherwise I was bit worried.

<b>India protests against Pakistan envoy house break-in</b>

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<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

Under advice from Foreign Secretary Menon (Previous posting before becoming Foreign Secretary, Menon was Indian High Commissioner to - you guessed it right - Pakistan) Our Prime Minister The Right Honourable Man Mohan Singh Ji will offer another One Hundred - if not more - Confidence Building Measures to Pakistan!

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[Naresh]

<b>Mudy Ji & Viren Ji :</b>

Peter Galbraith - son of John Kenneth Galbraith - with a Delegation from National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, visited Pakistan around 1988 to report on the Pakistani Elections.

So although the letter could be a “Fake” planted by the ISI it seems to be addressed to the right person.

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[Guest]

Nareshji and Mudy,

Thanks. No fan of BB cause I believe she's just the other side of the coin when compared to Mushy - both are counterfiet when it comes to Indian issues.
Couldn't help notice the print quality of the letter. Seems like nice laser printed letter. Remember back in 90s it was still those noisy dot-matrix or daisy printers.
Unless they used a decent electronic typewriters.
Fake letters against Bush's term in National Guard was busted based on use of fonts not prevelant back in early 70s. Hope someone's paying close attention to this letter.

Another indication that 'things could have been easier with Rajiv around' seems to imply that Rajeev had a "working" relationship with BB where he'd have sold the nation for her (not that's not happened in other instances).
Puts a cloud over entire Brasstacks episode.
Memory bit foggy, so just speaking out loud here.

[Guest]

Virenji, Nareshji & others,
Please watch last two days Mushy's interview, he is behaving like a cry baby in front of journalist and west, but he is a sneaky Mohajir, fooling everyone, especially punjabis, Sindhies.
Historical tit-bit, Can you believe it, we both are born in same hospital (St. Stephen Hospital, Delhi) <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> . So now I know what he is upto.
Lets see, who will get beating first in Indian embassy.
Anyway, popcorn time for us.

[Guest]

<b>Britain's Sky says Musharraf considered resignation</b>
Very misleading headlines, he never said, only he was saying IF, ElSE or FOR , WHILE loop, no discussion on CASE SWITCH or default.
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...292782,00.html

Full transcript and video.