US Elections 2008 - III

[Pandyan]

Last I saw 18-20% of Hillary's crowd said they would vote for McCain if she didn't become the nominee.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Folks, sorry missed out a lot of stuff. I see that HRC has withdrawn and they are trying to unite dems. What are the numbers like ? How many HRC supporters going for McCain ? Any good polls ?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
At this stage, 65% woman will vote for McCain, 80% Jews will vote for McCain.
Clear situation will come out in August.
Like yesterday, Obama refused to share his donor's list with Hillary. And Hillary later refused to share her donor list. Things are not rosy inside.
Democratic Pary is very divide. Dean term will be over in Aug, looks like Obama man will take over DNC, chances are Tom Daschel or Jesse Jackson or may be Donna Brazille will lead DNC. Interesting time ahead.
Yesterday Gallup poll was BO 44- Mc 44 , numbers look bad for BO considering this should be Democrats year and he should be riding on nomination bump.

<b>Hill, Yes! O., No</b>!
<i>The Battle Isn't Over for Many Women Who Fought for Clinton</i>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Defining the Just Say No Deal coalition is not simple. The clearest and strongest sentiments seem to be that party leaders tried to force Clinton out of the race prematurely, allowed sexism and misogyny to go unchecked in the media, and made decisions about the Florida and Michigan contests that were designed to favor Obama.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Guest]

this will give you idea, Obama character and divide democratic party and its purse.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Obama Bombs</b>
Barack had his opportunity tonight to start healing the rifts in the Democratic party and, to put it bluntly, he flopped. (CNN is giving the Barack spin, but don’t believe it.) <b>I am told from people who attended the fundraising soiree at the Mayflower Hotel that the One was a dud.</b>

Hillary, ever the good trooper and team player, gave Barack an intro to her big dollar donors and an opportunity to start the healing. But Barack continues to play the role of petulant bore. He gave an uninspired, mechanical speech. The charm exhibited on the campaign trail that left women swooning, was missing in action. Folks from the Hillary camp described the speech as snobbish, arrogant, and boring. But it was Barack’s response to questions from Hillary’s supporters that produced sour bile.

1. What about the Vice President slot? The questioner told Barack that if he named Hillary as the Vice President that the Democrats would be in a position to own the White House for the next 16 years. Barack said nothing to give Clinton supporters hope that he would consider the Senator from New York.

2.<b> Will you help Hillary retire her debt? On this one Barack said he had written a check for $2300 (note, no check from Michelle), but that his real interest was getting access to the phone lists of Hillary’s donors and contacts. Hillary supporters at the gathering sat on their hands, their checkbooks, and their lists</b>.

<b>3. What will you do to stop the sexist smear of Hillary? The questioner noted that Barack did nothing to quell the rampant sexist attacks on Hillary during the campaign and that she continues to be brutalized. Barack said, “Yes, I know. But there is another woman who has been brutalized as well. The healing will take a long time to fix.”</b>

So there you have it. No vision. No magnanimous gesture. <b>It is still all about Barack and Michelle. Most of the Hillary supporters left unassuaged. Instead of a promise from Barack to tell his supporters to stop the attacks on Hillary and her supporters, he essentially put his hands in his pockets and shrugged his shoulders</b>.

Let’s be clear. The recently concluded Democratic party primary season does not even begin to compare to the death and horror that convulsed America during the Civil War. <b>But the hurt feelings and anger among Hillary supporters are real. And Barack’s refusal to tackle this issue head on is but one other reminder that he is not ready to unite a nation fractured by political strife</b>. We know Mr. Lincoln, and you sir are no Abraham.
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[Guest]

link<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->One major Clinton donor described it this way:<b> "This felt like when your mom forces you to go visit your Aunt Ida and she has to pinch your cheeks and you're sitting there in an uncomfortable suit and you can't wait to leave."

Another Clinton-leaning person who was in the room said after the meeting wrapped up that there is still "a lot of anger" toward Obama among Clinton's wealthiest fans.

"It was pretty bad," this source said. He said donors were joking that the scene was like "an Irish wake" and that you "could cut the air with a knife" it was so tense in the room.

"He better go back to the internet," said one donor about the Democratic nominee’s fundraising tactics</b>. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many Clinton donors are anxious to hear more about Clinton's future role in the Obama campaign. For example, will she have her own campaign plane to use for appearances? Will she speak at the Democratic convention in late August and when? They also want to know if Clinton's delegates will be allowed any kind of symbolic vote on the convention floor.

<b>Asked tonight if there would be a roll-call vote at the convention in Denver, Clinton and Obama exchanged looks, with Clinton smiling, and said that was still being negotiated.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Guest]

This 'hope' kool-aid is indeed deadly. Olbermann could be inspired for to run his next 'worst person in the world' by watching the guy in his mirror <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->five whole months ago, when George Bush was urging enactment of a law with retroactive immunity and a lessening of FISA protections. Now that Barack Obama supports a law that does the same thing -- and now that Obama justifies that support by claiming that this bill is necessary to keep us Safe from the Terrorists -- everything has changed. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Those who spent the last five years mauling Bush for "shredding the Constitution" and approving of lawbreaking -- only to then praise Obama for supporting a bill that endorses and protects all of that -- are displaying exactly the type of blind reverence that is more dangerous than any one political leader could ever be.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Keith Olbermann: Then and now

[Guest]

Olbermann is best decribed by Karmabites1 <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Have you read his latest tantrum ? link link2- huffi
<b>Serenity Lost: Obama And The Netroots</b>

[Guest]

It's called buyers remorse.

[Guest]

Mother-fukker loser Mudy and Kuthe-ke-bache Viren,
If what the arse-hole Mudy posted here is TRUE - i.e. 65% of women back McCain, then McCain should be leading the polls by a wide margin as 53% of US electorate is women

But I suppose most of the baffoons posting in this forum has no commonsense as can be seen by various posts in this forum.

Go to hell, hindutva baffoons. Go and masturbate in front of the porttrait of that gay savarkar.

Baffons like you posting trash and thinking that is going to have an impact on world affairs reminds me of the saying - "Dogs bark, but the caravan will keep moving forward"

[Guest]

NPR review on Obama - Must listen

[acharya]

<img src='http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-BS254_oj_rov_20080625205143.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Guest]

LOUISVILLE -....About 650 of Kentucky's most influential Republicans — and <b>a few Democrats </b>— attended the event at the Kentucky International Convention Center. Organizers said the total raised was $2 million

Scott Jennings, a Republican strategist for Peritus Public Relations...said that is the most money ever raised at a presidential-level fund-raiser in Kentucky.
link

[Guest]

offical website of Obama
<img src='http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/cajuncocoa/Marxists4Obama.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[Guest]

This is new seal of Obama <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<img src='http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/obama-rubber-chicken-002_thumb6.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[acharya]

Lieberman: U.S. May Be Attacked In 2009
McCain Supporter Says Terrorists Have Tested New Presidents By Launching Attacks In First Year Of Term
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/29/...in4217516.shtml

Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., on "Face The Nation"
Lieberman Praises McCain's Policy

Sen. Joe Lieberman talks to Bob Schieffer about his support for John McCain, saying that McCain's foreign policy will make the United States' enemies weak and allies strong. | Share/Embed

* Sen. Joe Lieberman talks to Bob Schieffer about his support for John McCain, saying that McCain\'s foreign policy will make the United States\' enemies weak and allies strong.
Lieberman Praises McCain's Policy (11:19)

(CBS) In describing the reasons he believes the Republicans' presumptive nominee for president would be better prepared than the Democrats' to lead the nation next January, Sen. Joe Lieberman said that history shows the United States would likely face a terrorist attack in 2009.

"Our enemies will test the new president early," Lieberman, I-Conn., told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer. "Remember that the truck bombing of the World Trade Center happened in the first year of the Clinton administration. 9/11 happened in the first year of the Bush administration."

Lieberman nonetheless distanced himself from remarks by McCain chief strategist Charlie Black, who came under criticism for suggesting in an interview that McCain's election chances would be improved if a terrorist attack occurred before November.

"Sometimes even the best of them say things that are not what they intended to say," Lieberman said. "Certainly the implications there I know were not what Charlie intended. And he apologized for it. Senator McCain said he didn't agree. And, of course, I feel the same way.

"But here's the point. We're in a war against Islamist extremists who attacked us on 9/11. They've been trying to attack us in many, many ways since then."

A former Democratic nominee for vice president, Lieberman endorsed McCain for president because, he says, the Democratic Party he joined in the early 1960s is not reflected by the party's current leadership.

He also said that he feels McCain is better prepared to be commander in chief than Barack Obama. "[McCain] knows the world," Lieberman said. "He's been tested. He's ready to protect the security of the American people."

Lieberman also assailed Obama and fellow Senators who called for a timetable of withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq and opposed the "surge" of additional U.S. forces pushed forth by President Bush.

"It's now working," Lieberman told Schieffer. "If we had done what Senator Obama asked us to do for the last couple of years, today Iran and al Qaeda would be in control of Iraq. It would be a terrible defeat for us and our allies in the Middle East and throughout the world. Instead, we've got a country that's defending itself, that's growing economically, where there's been genuine political reconciliation, and where Iran and al Qaeda are on the run. And that's the way it ought to be."
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[Guest]

Seems like some have got over the kool-aid hangover and have sobered up.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There’s a new group on “MyBarackObama.com” called “Senator Obama — Please Vote Against FISA.” Stop by and tell the Senator that you’ll be voting for him in November and hoping that in the meantime, he does the right thing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Guest]

Listen to leftist npr radio link, they are on dot, slowly people are opening eyes and mind.
<b>NPR’s Scott Simon on Obama’s Exploitation of the Race Card</b>

[Guest]

Remember Obama attacking Clinton as '<i>Senator from Poonjab'</i> for links to Sant Chatwal?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> The three page 'opposition research paper', titled Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)'s Personal Financial and Political Ties, which has begun circulating in the blogosphere, criticises the Clintons' links to India in an effort and attacks her record on outsourcing, and on protecting American jobs. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Obama camp attacks Hillary's Indian links


Well, that was then; now we could have a President from <i>Poonjab</i> <!--emo&:clapping--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' /><!--endemo-->


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Chatwal to raise $10 million for Obama

See the "change"? Yes he can ! (change I mean)

[Shambhu]

Heard on radio yesterday that BO "will not question anyone else's patriotism and will not allow anyone to question my patriotism".

Lame pre-empt. McCain went to prison after crashing, breaking his collar bone, and having the other collar bone broken by his gracious hosts.

BO constantly scans the horizon for more Ayers-wannabees to add to his guestlist.

<!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--> BO <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--> BO

[Guest]

Now Obama have no problem with Chatwal links with Motel and other scams.

[Guest]

Hey, remember the "failed policies of Bush" such as the funding for faith-based intitatives?

Guess, who's just vowed to back that program.
No prizes for guessing.

With the flip-flops we are seeing, hard-core Obamities should be best advised to stay away from butter knives.