<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Muslims have been playing the victim since British rule no matter what and its a mistake in my opinion to give any credence to their demands which are mostly nonsense anyway<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Absolutely. British played a big part in goading the muslims to think this way. My point is that they already feel that way. Whether or not we give credence to it does not really matter.
A mullah with his rhetoric can whip them up to a frenzy much like in the Marad riots etc. When it comes to investigating cases like this we have to do this strictly by the book, no macho 'kill them in encounters' etc. Look at the case of afzal guru with accusations of human rights violation etc. The police have to build an airtight case backed by strong evidence.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->its not the govt's job to coddle them and make them integrate, when in 47 they stayed on after partition they implicitly agreed to integrate, if not any muslims who live in delusions of maintaining a separate identity (thru sharia in civil matters or whatever) always have their promised land next door and they don't belong in India<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's the govt job to make them integrate. Coddling them is not the answer, I agree with you. Outside pressure has to be applied otherwise the people will take the law into their own hands and we will have riots. I seriously doubt whether muslims agreed at all to be secular either implicitly or explicitly in 47. Most stayed b/c they couldnt afford to leave. We know that Maulana Azad wanted muslims to stay in India to make it Dar-ul-Islam. He saw the partition as a defeat to Islam in India. The Indian govt with its policies of catering to muslims really gives no incentives for them to integrate. Why should they? To paraphrase the PM, why should they lose out on the first cut of all resources?
How much ever we would like the hardcore jehadis to leave, do you think they will? They all think like Azad. Like I said before, we have to break the strangle hold of the mullahs and apply pressure on them to integrate.
In the face of an all-round attack, though MoS for home Sriprakash Jaiswal and Congress spokesperson Shakeel Ahmed both denied the soft-on-terror charge, the ruling coalition is in danger of losing the argument. The parallel growth of naxal violence and the spectacular failure of home minister Shivraj Patil's misplaced bid to engage Maoists in dialogue through a ceasefire agreement has only made the government's record look worse.
The UPA lead player's attention had been distracted since early July by the battle for survival in office after Left parties withdrew support and the Bangalore blasts have served as a rude wake up call.
Internal security has been the government's Achilles heel even as it is saddled with newer problems like soaring inflation. With seven months of go for general elections, Congress does not have too much time left to improve its grades.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Politi...how/3281887.cms
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->How much ever we would like the hardcore jehadis to leave, do you think they will? They all think like Azad. Like I said before, we have to break the strangle hold of the mullahs and apply pressure on them to integrate. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How you can do? When IM raped and looted India for 1000 years and still they think victim, something is wrong don't you think? Even Sikh PM had given first right of Hindus land to IM, but they are still blowing innocent people.
They will never integrate, they are true follower of Islam.
An unexploded live bomb was recovered on Saturday from Madiwala area in Bangalore, close to the spot where one of the nine low-intensity explosions had taken place, and was defused by the bomb disposal squad.
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Two persons were killed and 12 others injured in the serial blasts in the city on Friday.
The live bomb was detected in front of the Hyderabad House on Bangalore-Hosur Road this morning after a tip-off and bomb disposal squad was rushed to the spot, city Police Commissioner S Bidri said.
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/340831.html
NDTV
6 Bomb blasts in Ahmedabad
I think the muslims are deliberately trying to set off bomb blasts in bjp ruled states, hoping to provoke riots
What is needed is 100% social boycott
and strict law enforcement
NDTV...
Indian Mujahadeen sent email (claiming responsibility) - they had this on the ticker twice, and now not repeating anymore....
10 dead, 48 injured in 16 incidents (areas/blasts)
Bombos planted on cycles in tiffin boxes
PM, President "condemn" blasts...
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15 dead, 100 injured
17 BOMB BLASTS ROCK AHMEDABAD, 15 DEAD
The first blast took place in Maninagar, which is the Assembly constituency of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.
Jaipur, Bangaluru, Ahmedabad... next Bhopal? Patna?
07-26-2008, 10:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2008, 12:03 AM by dhu.)
low intensity bombs means what exactly? a decision was taken quickly after recent UPA performance?
my2c. with objective of a psychological effect. easier to carry out, and keep the jehad on. or maybe some more practical benefits like logistical issues, best practice template, allowed level of know-how transfer to the local mujahedins etc.
That bribing case that rocked Parliament last week - it's history.
Moron SIngh government yesterday said, they had alerted Karnatka CM, but what happened in Gujarat. Why they are calling it surprised?
Or Moron Singh government is telling Indian even Modi can't save Hindus.
Now Modi can't say, Guajart was bomb free.
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Minister of State for Home Affairs Shakeel Ahmed said: "We are surprised and shocked. On Friday, it was Banglore. Today it is Ahmedabad<b>. This happened even after the government of India issued high alerts to all sensitive states.</b>
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<b>"If they need any assistance, the government of India will provide it," </b>Ahmed said.
<b>"Let the hour of crisis pass</b>. We will seek information from the Gujarat government. Let the normalcy return."
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These SOB don't miss any time to play politics.
These bomb blasts will continue as long as hindus refuse to become dhimmis or convert to islam
Laughing stock of the entire world. We are now 2nd most affected by terrorism after Iraq, which is a war-ravaged country. I don't know what is more disgusting, Hindu complacency or Moron Singh's inaction.
Look at this comment from an unspecified forum -
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->At the end of the day, Indian Muslims are our own people and we cannot throw them out. If we wanted to, we should have done it in 1947, but today is 2008. They are as much a part of India as the rest.
So let us think of how we can live together, alleviate each other's misconceptions and take on the COMMON enemy (Pakis, Chinkis, Bhooka-nangas etc). It will be painful, but that is the only way forward without tearing India apart.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you read Moron Singh and his cronies statement, you will know they will do nothing. Indians should arm themselves and protect thier own family.
Right of Arm is must for Indians.
Wanted to keep my mouth shut but failed: IT IS Hindu complacency and concern about self-image in the West. We feel nice to say we are secular and tolerant of everything, we want the West to say we are secular and tolerant of anything no matter what.
I hope our esteemed forum members and former moderator in Ahemdabad are safe and sound. Just buzz us.
because your area is in blast list.
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RK Misra | Ahmedabad
Day after B'lore, 16 blasts kill 29 in Ahmedabad
Ahmedabad witnessed a bloody Saturday with 16 explosions in 70 minutes killing 29 and injuring 100 just a day similar blasts rocked Bangalore. Â
The weekend was rudely cut short by the first blast at 6.45 pm in Maninagar, Chief Minister Narendra Modi's constituency, and then continued from the fringes to the heart of the city. The targeting of Ahmedabad speaks of precise planning aimed at creating widespread panic.
The toll is expected to climb with many battling for life in hospitals. Reports said <b>two doctors treating patients at Civil Hospital also died in a blast at the facility. </b>
Amid all the gore, concerned citizens queued up at hospitals to donate blood. Chief Minister Narendra Modi, appealed to the people to remain calm and united in the face of provocation. "The time has come to get ready for the protracted and long battle against forces inimical to the country. Unity is essential for it", he said, terming the Saturday mayhem a terrorist attack on India.
The blasts came shortly after an email warning by the Indian Mujahideen outfit sent to a private TV channel daring the administration.
Officials described the blasts as low intensity but the clear targeting of crowded areas with the first and second one within five minutes talked of precision planning.
Beginning from Maninagar, the blasts rocked Hatkeshwar Circle, Bapunagar, Narol, Ishanpur, Sarangpur Bridge, Sarkhej, Raipur, Civil Hospital, LG Hospital and Vastrapur. Each of these areas witnessed two to three blasts.
<b>The explosions came within minutes of a TV channel receiving an e-mail from the ID, alarabi.gujarat@ yahoo.com</b>, which warned of blasts within minutes and dared the administration to avert them if it could. The e-mail was signed 'Indian Mujahideen'. An emergency meeting of the State Cabinet was convened by Modi even as Home Secretary Balwant Singh and DGP PC Pandey went into a late night huddle.
<b>Twenty ambulances have been placed at strategic locations to rush the injured to hospitals without loss of time and barriers have sprung up at entry points to the city. Forensic teams have fanned out to the blast locations to piece together the evidence.</b>
As innocent blood spilled the streets, there was widespread panic with hospitals and even police stations being targeted. Mobile networks were jammed as people sought to contact their near and dear ones.
The explosives were kept in tiffin boxes strapped to bicycles which were placed at crowded locations, designed to cause maximum damage.
An Ahmedabad Municipal Transport Service bus was selected in the minorities' dominated Sarkhej. The blast was calculated to turn the vehicle into an inferno but even though it's flank was ripped apart by the explosion,t here was only one casualty
In Narol, the explosive bicycle was placed near the hanuman temple, where devotees throng on Saturday evening. However, the blast here came a bit earlier in the day keeping the casualty low.
Knowing that the injured would be rushed to either the Civil Hospital or the L G Municipal Hospital in Maninagar, the culprits triggered blasts in both facilities sending waves of panic.
While one blast occurred near the trauma centre at Civil Hospital, the other took place in L G Hospital.
The diamond market in Bapunagar was selected as people converge near the bus stand in the evening to exchange notes on the day's business. There were two blasts here: One near the bus stand and another, minutes later, about 200 metres from the spot.
<i>The latest terrorist act has again highlighted the need for a firm and effective anti-terrorist legal framework. The Gujarat Assembly has passed a law on the lines of the Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act. It is pending with the President for assent for four years. A similar legislation for Rajasthan is also awaiting the President's assent. I demand the Union Government immediately recommend Presidential assent to these two legislations, whose need has been underscored by the repeal of POTA
-- BJP leader LK Advani
We will review the security situation on Sunday at 11 am. Let's not play the blame game. The Centre will be extending all help to the Gujarat Government
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Jihad kills more under UPA </b>
Pioneer News Service | New Delhi
The Congress has often sought to deflect attention from the UPA's track record in fighting terrorism by claiming that the situation was worse when NDA was in power. This misperception is strengthened by the high profile though foiled terror attack on Parliament House in 2001.
A comparative analysis of Islamist terrorist strikes during the six years (1998-2004) when the BJP-led NDA was in power and LK Advani was Home Minister, and those during the four years and two months the Congress-led UPA has been in power, knocks the bottom out of Congress's claim, most recently repeated by the Prime Minister in Parliament last Tuesday.
<b>At least 598 people have died and many more injured in jihadi attacks outside J&K since the UPA came to power in the summer of 2004.</b> These attacks include serial bombings, like those in Ahmedabad on Saturday, and raids by suicide squads, like the bid to blow up the Ram mandir at Ayodhya. <b>The toll in such attacks during the NDA years was 237.</b>
The loss of lives is much higher if separatist violence in J&K and in the North-East, and Maoist violence in other States are factored in. The overall tally for UPA years would be at least 5,272. Nearly a 1000 lives have been lost in Maoist violence, which has also resulted in the death of over 600 securitymen in the past four years.
There were 12 major jihadi attacks when NDA was in power from early-1998 to mid-2004. Of these, three resulted in heavy casualties: The massacre at Chhamba on August 8, 1998 (35 killed); the fidayeen attack on Akshardham temple on September 24, 2002 (32 killed); and, the bombings in Mumbai near Gateway of India and Zaveri Bazaar on August 25, 2003 (52 killed).
There have been many more jihadi attacks of greater severity between June 2004 and July 2008. The bombings in Delhi on October 29, 2005, resulted in 62 deaths; the blasts at Sankatmochan Mandir and Varanasi Railway Station on March 7, 2006, left 21 people dead; the commuter train bombings in Mumbai on July 11, 2006, claimed 209 lives; the Malegaon bombings of September 8, 2006, killed 40 people; the bombing of the Delhi-Atari special train killed 68 passengers; the bombings in Hyderabad on August 25, 2007, killed 44 people. The May 13, 2008 bombings in Jaipur killed 82 people.
In the past 24 hours, more than 30 people have been killed in the Bangalore and Ahmedabad bombings. Clearly,<b> NDA's record shines in comparison to that of the UPA Government. But misperception shrouds the truth</b>.
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Sonia and Moron Singh should get reward.
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