<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am an Indian and of the firm opinion that the government should not spend one rupee on sports. Let it first provide food,clothes and shelter to all the people. If private orgs want to fund and send an Indian team then nobody's going to stop them. But the government has better things to do.
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Comment from that article. With that kind of mentality, we might as well also disable any form of military we have left in India since the money can be spent feeding people. What a loser. I agree with Bharatavarsh, these kinds of people have no concept of pride or any spirit of competition left in them.
Here is a comment from that article I agree with.
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Indians have done a good job of imbibing the worst qualities of white people and continuing the least desirable traditions of colonialism. I wasted many hours of my childhood playing the stupid game known as cricket and watching the match-fixed games, I wish I could get that lost time back.
Why is Mani Shankar Aiyer, the minister of Sports? What has been his achievement in the field of sports?
03-15-2008, 11:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2008, 11:29 PM by Bharatvarsh.)
Not only that, the previous occupant of that spot was Sunil Dutt and i have yet to find what sports he exactly played (i am not sure if munching on pakoras is considered a sport).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Karan Thapar: But what about the fact that itâs not just the heads of the sports federations you have problems with, many of those heads end up being senior politicians? We are talking about people like PR Dasmunsi, who looks after football, not just Suresh Kalmadi but also Sharad Pawar, Lalu Prasad Yadav. Will they be happy for your sports policy to go ahead, because even they have not met you.
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That should explain part of the reason why we are a no name in International Football.
05-01-2008, 03:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-01-2008, 03:57 PM by Husky.)
Bharatvarsh, Pandyan and anyone else interested,
Have you ever watched the cool Japanese program "Ninja Warrior" where men, women and kids go through all kinds of physical challenges in order to become the next "Ninja Warrior". Of course, real Ninjas could do all kinds of ultra-cool stuff, but nevertheless this program is entertaining to watch. Natural traditionalist Japanese stuff. There are fishermen, school teachers and professors, to business (wo)men all coming to take the challenge. When some of them fail once or more times, the program briefly shows how these people go to their Buddhist or Shinto Temple to train in discipline, mental and physical stamina and come back powered up to try again and succeed. It has great viewer-entertainment value. Beats the olympings anyday. And it's nice to see individuals set targets for themselves and try, try and try again until they succeed.
I like how it promotes self-improvement in many aspects, very Japanese. One guy went to the Buddhist temple and IIRC they showed how he remained silent for a very long time and meditated before returning. And there was a montage on another who one looked to be doing all kinds of training with Buddhist monks in the background. India should emulate Japan in this and create a similar program.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Have you ever watched the cool Japanese program "Ninja Warrior" where men, women and kids go through all kinds of physical challenges in order to become the next "Ninja Warrior". Of course, real Ninjas could do all kinds of ultra-cool stuff, but nevertheless this program is entertaining to watch. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you know what channel it shows up on?
I don't even have cable, so only get a few free channels, the only show I watch without missing is the Sopranos online since i never watched the last 2 seasons.
I will try to find an episode online of it.
05-01-2008, 06:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-01-2008, 06:26 PM by Husky.)
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Do you know what channel it shows up on?
I don't even have cable, so only get a few free channels, the only show I watch without missing is the Sopranos online since i never watched the last 2 seasons.
I will try to find an episode online of it.
[right][snapback]81142[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Local free channel, not likely to be beamed to N America. But searching the web shows that it seems/seemed to be playing in N America in a channel called "G4" according to http://listingsca.com/Media/Broadcast/TV/
Is that one of the free channels you get?
Keep an eye out for it: it gets one on the edge of one's seat and hoping the amazing contestants to succeed.
Here, a page from web search:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Yahoo! Canada Answers - Have you ever watched the show "ninja ...Have you ever watched the show "ninja warrior"? I have and it is awsome. Even though it is japanese, I love it!!! If you want to watch it, go to <b>channel 136</b> ...
answers.yahoo.<b>ca</b>/question/index?qid=20080313175720AATIYGE&show=7 <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This page also mentions some channels:
http://www.applesaucegang.org/forums/viewt...fedf3fe24fc978e
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Good day, bad day</b>
Pioneer.com
AP
India began its Olympic campaign on a mixed note on Saturday with three ace shooters failing to qualify while women archers, a rower, a badminton player and a pugilist made it to the next rounds.Â
<b>Showcased as India's best bets, Anjali Bhagwat, debutante Avneet Kaur Sidhu and veteran Samresh Jung failed to fire their way into the finals of the their individual events.</b> The only silver lining on a gloomy day for shooters came from <b>Manavjit secured 12th position and remained in contention for a place in the final six.</b>
In archery, L Bombayla Devi, Dola Banerjee and Pranitha Vardhineni will take on hosts China who finished third straight in the quarterfinals.
The Indian camp got good news in rowing with Bajranglal Takhar making it to the quarterfinals of the men's singles sculls event. In boxing, Vijender Kumar scored an opening round win over JG Jack in the opening round of the middleweight category (75 kg) though Dinesh Kumar was not lucky in light weight category. In badminton, Saina Nehwal routed her Russian opponent Ella Karachkova 21-9, 21-8 to storm into the second round of the women's singles event.
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TV Commentators were having field day on 1.2 Billion Indian people and 6-7 medals in last 4 Olympics.
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Like everything else in India, sports are also most neglected area. China Babus did amazing thing, they had pride and love for country. In India, its all about minister and Babus tantrums comes first and rest goes to hell.
Titbit :
I know a Delhi, later UP swimming champion and his timing was better than national level but to get to compete in national level whole series of bribe comes into play. To compete abroad, babu will pick coach who will be his friend or relative etc etc and without paying babu no movement. On paper he had received 4-5 years of scholarship for studies, practice fee, special diet fund and Coach Fee. But, in reality he never saw single paisa. So babus had funded his wife shopping or alcohol or whatever.
Not sure how is situation now.
Those who make it to Olympic, I salute them.
Plus you have bastards like Mani Shankar Ayyar as head of Ministry of Youth Affairs and Sports. Exactly what qualifications does this self-described "secular fundamentalist" have to hold such an office? No wonder these shameless scum can't even win more than one medal for a billion people.
Today during conference someone asked me, Why India is so poor in sports? I replied him back, India is suffering from disease called Babu Abusive Power Syndrome (BAPS), without bribe nothing happens, teams or players are selected by ministers or Babu, bribe them or lose spot. So Indians buy Gold and Silver from Zaveri Bazar without competing. I told them, now you know why India failed or unable to reach its potential, because Indian bureaucracy behave as crab and greedy.
<b>Abhinav Bindra wins 10m air rifle gold</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Abhinav Bindra won India's first ever individual Olympic gold medal on Monday with a thrilling come-from-behind victory in the men's 10 metres air rifle event.
Bindra was fourth after qualifying but had a brilliant final round and even hit a near perfect 10.8 on his last visit to pull in front of Henri Hakkinen of Finland, who dropped to bronze with a poor final shot of 9.7.
That allowed China's Zhu Qinan, the defending Olympic champion and heavy favourite, to pass him on his final shot and win the silver medal.
"It's just great," Bindra said just before climbing on to the podium.
Zhu suffered a late lapse in concentration in the qualification earlier on Monday morning when he had to rush his final shots to make the time limit, thus dropping to second place behind Hakkinen ahead of the final.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Despite a population of around 1.1 billion people, India had only won four individual medals, none of them gold, since sending their first team to the Summer Games in 1928.
They have won the Olympic hockey tournament eight times and taken three other medals in the sport, though none since 1980.
India's only other Olympic medals were a bronze for freestyle wrestler Kha-Shaba Jadav in Helsinki in 1952 and a bronze for tennis player Leander Paes in 1996.
Weightlifter Karnam Malleswari became India's first female Olympic medallist with bronze in the 69kg category in 2000 and shooter Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore won silver in the double trap event four years ago in Athens. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Abhinav Bindra won India's first ever individual Olympic gold medal on Monday with a thrilling come-from-behind victory in the men's 10 metres air rifle event.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Rescues country from total shame. 1 more medal and it will be an all time record.
Abhinav's blog: http://abhinavbindra.blogspot.com/
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Saina Nehwal advances to quarter finals. One more win and she will have a chance to win another medal.
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Bindra's dad put in his own money to build a range at home. We can analyse all we want and blame GOI etc, but the fact is growth in sports has to be organic. And sports is not our priority right now. Its time too will come.
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Interesting stats reg shooting medals. Watched it somewhere
Bindra reached finals in Athens
He is world #1
Since last 10 years shooters have been doing great and have won over 100 medals at international events.
At commonwealth games Indian shooters won almost half of all medals.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bindra's dad put in his own money to build a range at home. We can analyse all we want and blame GOI etc, but the fact is growth in sports has to be organic. And sports is not our priority right now. Its time too will come.
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Rajesh, here you are wrong, Indian had potentials and outside India they are doing very well. In US Gymn team there is one Indian, Lot of Indian origin or new citizen of different countries are competing in Olympics.
It is very frustrating when it comes to support from Indian Government as simple as competing, majority of completion requires player should be accompanied by coach and Doctor or medical arrangement on foreign land. To provide this, Babu Machinery gets active and whole BAPS. Even when competitors are ready to pay for its own air tickets, but providing tickets for coach and doctor are difficult plus if you add accommodation.
Only if private sector jumps in and bypass Indian Government completely, handle BAPS and let competitor worry about competing only, we may see light.
08-11-2008, 08:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2008, 08:31 PM by Bodhi.)
(nothing to do with olympics), but does anybody follows WWF and 'Khali' the Hindu Devil (who is a strict vegetarian)?
Mudy
I didnt say Indians are incapable of doing well in sports. All I am saying is its not our priority right now. We do well with organic growth. We cant do well with top-down growth like China. We have to do it bottom up. Its going to have to be slow and steady.
Rajesh,
If Babus and Ministers stop creating road blocks, 90% problem will be solved. Sports should be high priority, it will create jobs, pride, unity and healthy country.
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