US Elections 2008 - II

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hope it never happens. It will be the worst for NRIs to have a traitor EJ as possible candidate. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you check exit poll who voted against Gay marriage in California.

Blacks 70%
<b>Asian 49%</b>
White 49%
Latino 53%
Others 51%
It failed because Blacks came out in full.

<b>Prevention of Farm Animal Cruelty Act.</b>
65% voted for new law. It will make eggs, meat very expensive. PETA and Vegetarians won this battle.

US is less EJ now and they are fastest shrinking lot.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->US is less EJ now and they are fastest shrinking lot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:rock--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rock.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rock.gif' /><!--endemo--> So they don't have power to play mischief in places like Khanadamal or Gujarat or any thousand destinations outside their border.
On Rush, throw some Oxycontin on the floor and he'll drool. No need to pay attention to him. He'll have little impact now. Watch Romney or any of those quite ones now - they are the dark horse for '12

[acharya]

<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+Nov 6 2008, 08:57 AM-->QUOTE(Viren @ Nov 6 2008, 08:57 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->US is less EJ now and they are fastest shrinking lot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:rock--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rock.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rock.gif' /><!--endemo--> So they don't have power to play mischief in places like Khanadamal or Gujarat or any thousand destinations outside their border.
On Rush, throw some Oxycontin on the floor and he'll drool. No need to pay attention to him. He'll have little impact now. Watch Romney or any of those quite ones now - they are the dark horse for '12
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THis is true.

Indians should focus on those remaining EJs who spend money on other countries. It is their way of charity.

I am now in touch with one such group which has a budget of only $400k but they are after many countries including Tibet.

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<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+Nov 7 2008, 02:27 AM-->QUOTE(Viren @ Nov 7 2008, 02:27 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->US is less EJ now and they are fastest shrinking lot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:rock--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rock.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rock.gif' /><!--endemo--> So they don't have power to play mischief in places like Khanadamal or Gujarat or any thousand destinations outside their border.
On Rush, throw some Oxycontin on the floor and he'll drool. No need to pay attention to him. He'll have little impact now. Watch Romney or any of those quite ones now - they are the dark horse for '12
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One should worry about commie groups who use church to destroy country and indeginous religion in target country. e.g FOSA, FOIL Narmada Bacho Andolan, Earth, RIver foundation etc, they use Church but funds comes from far left/Commie group from EUrope, USA and South Korea. India, China, Iraq, Tibet are target country. US just had its revolution in 2008.
They are playing dirty games in Khanadamal or Gujarat by marriage of church and Maoist.

Nepal was a successful mission. This is nothing to do with Rush or his Oxycortin or Romney. For that we have 3 yrs to sleep.

EJ group spent $50+ million defeating Gay marriage in US.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Many Faces of Sonal Shah Obama's Indian By VIJAY PRASHAD
http://www.counterpunch.org/prashad11072008.html

Barack Obama has appointed John Podesta to run his transition. During the lean years of the Bush administration, Podesta, native of Chicago, ran a shadow cabinet for the Democrats. Since 2003, the home of this government-in-exile has been the Center for American Progress (CAP), a liberal think tank set-up to rival the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute. The money, about $10 million per year, came from George Soros, Peter Lewis, Marion Sandler and Herb Sandler – the main liberal financiers. CAP has its set of fellows. Many of them worked in some capacity within the Clinton administration (where Podesta was Chief of Staff). There are hard-nosed people like Rudy deLeon (who went through every Defense secretariat in the Clinton years) and Jeanne Lambrew (who served as a health analyst in the National Economic Council during the waning years of the Clinton administration). But there are also the fresh faces, young people who came to Washington with glowing references from the Ivy League. Others marched over from the Hill, after serving various terms as staff members for the Democratic warhorses. They have been groomed to be part of the next Democratic administration. Their hibernation is over.
Obama has called.

The likely suspects have picked up the phone and moved to the transition headquarters. Among them is a former CAP fellow and now Google employee, Sonal Shah. Shah is well known in the South Asian American community, and is a fixture in the Washington liberal circuit. The latter know her for her Democratic credentials, most of which seem to lie somewhere between neo-liberalism and welfare liberalism. The bleeding heart pauses, but then ticks again to the tune of pragmatism. This is perfect material for the CAP, which is hardly enthusiastic about the Democratic Leadership Council's total commitment to triangulation (which means capitulation to conservatism), but it is not averse to a little political calculus itself. Shah, a product of the University of Chicago, shined her corporate shoes at Anderson Consulting (who was Enron's accountant), which probably made it easier for her to go into Clinton's Treasury Department, where she helped Robert Rubin put a U. S. stamp on the post-1997 Asian economic recovery. The corporate side was balanced with an interest in the ideology of "giving back." When Bush took office, Shah went to the Center for Global Development, and while there joined her brother Anand in forming Indicorps. Knowing full well the desire among many South Asian Americans to give back to their homeland, the Shahs created an organization to help them go and volunteer in India, to do for them what the Peacecorps did for young liberals in the 1960s. Shah left the CAP to work for Goldman Sachs, and then went to Google. Shah's story is not unlike that of most of the CAP fellows, many of whom honed their dexterity at trying to reconcile the irreconcilable, capital and freedom, private accumulation and human needs.

<b>But there is a less typical side to the Shah story. Born in Gujarat, India, Shah came to the United States as a two-year old. Her father, a chemical engineer, first worked in New York before moving to Houston, and then moving away from his education toward the stock market. The Shahs remain active in Houston's Indian community, not only in the ecumenical Gujarati Samaj (a society for people from Gujarat), but also in the far more cruel organizations of the Hindu Right, such as the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), the Overseas Friends of the BJP (the main political party of the Hindu Right) and the Ekal Vidyalaya. Shah's parents, Ramesh and Kokila, not only work as volunteers for these outfits, but they also held positions of authority in them. Their daughter was not far behind. She was an active member of the VHPA, the U. S. branch of the most virulently fascistic outfit within India. The VHP's head, Ashok Singhal, believes that his organization should "inculcate a fear psychosis among [India's] Muslim community." This was Shah's boss. Till 2001, Shah was the National Coordinator of the VHPA.</b>

In 2004, I ran into Shah at the South Asian Awareness Network conference in Ann Arbor, Michigan. At an earlier panel I questioned her links to the Hindu Right, and so asked people to be wary about her organization, Indicorps. She was furious, and we had a bitter exchange in the Green Room. But at no point did she deny her active connections to the Hindu Right. Her brother, Anand, wrote to me not long after, concerned that Indicorps, which he runs full-time from India, would be tainted by our tussle. "I was curious about Sonal's own personal relationship with the VHPA," I wrote back, "That sparked some concern for me. Of course we are free to have our multiple associations, and there is no expectation that all our affiliations necessarily influence each other. That necessity is granted, although it is my understanding that the VHPA is a very disciplined organization that demands a lot from its members – notably congruence in all the work that they do. Which is why I raised the question."

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Commie gang is worried with one appointment.

[Shambhu]

..and when commie gang is asked what exactly is virulent or fascist about Hindutvavaadis, they they come up with stories which only a psychopath could concoct.

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<!--QuoteBegin-Shambhu+Nov 9 2008, 03:06 AM-->QUOTE(Shambhu @ Nov 9 2008, 03:06 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->..and when commie gang is asked what exactly is virulent or fascist about Hindutvavaadis, they they come up with stories which only a psychopath could concoct.
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Problem, it is supported by Indian Government.

[Shambhu]

..hopefully people will see that commie/psec gang and govt both need to go..

[Guest]

<b>Obama's letter to PM Dr Manmohan Singh on the partnership he wants</b>
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As a starting point, our common strategic interests call for redoubling US-Indian military, intelligence and law enforcement cooperation. ................................................

I also hope that a civil nuclear cooperation agreement can open the door to greater collaboration with India on non-proliferation issues. This subject will be one of my highest priorities as President. I am committed to the goal of a world without nuclear weapons, and will make this a central element of US nuclear weapons policy. I will work with the US Senate to secure ratification of the international treaty banning nuclear weapons testing at the earliest practical day, and then launch a major diplomatic initiative to ensure its entry into force. I will also pursue negotiations on a verifiable, multilateral treaty to end production of fissile material for nuclear weapons.

I very much hope and expect India will cooperate closely with the United States in these multilateral efforts. With the benefits of nuclear cooperation come real responsibilities -- and that should include steps to restrain nuclear weapons programs and pursuing effective disarmament when others do so. I greatly look forward to working with you on these and other issues in the future.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Capt M Kumar]

<!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> The Coalition Against Genocide was instrumental in getting the visa of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi revoked in 2005, it recalled and voiced concerns that an attempt might be made to get his visa reinstated.

After India media reports linked Shah to the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, her brother Anand Shah had said the 40-year economist's family had nothing to do with the VHP or the Gujarat government.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/I...how/3696417.cms

[acharya]

Il Giornale, Italy
<b>He’s Just a President. Not the Messiah</b>
By Michele Brambilla

The divinization of politics (and, extensively, of those who do it) is one of the greatest shams of the modern era.
Translated By Andreea Muntean
9 November 2008
Edited by Sonia Mladin
Italy - Il Giornale - Original Article (Italian)

“The world has changed” (front page, Repubblica), “A new world” (Il Manifesto), “The Berlin Wall has fallen” (Liberazione). Here are a few titles published in our papers after America’s vote. Other reactions after Obama’s victory: “Now I am sure that we are about to assist to the return of civilization” and “We may, just possibly, also see a time of refreshing openness, enlightenment and creativity. ” (Michael Moore, director) or “This is an historical moment, the world is changing” (Patrick McGrath, writer), “Obama at the White House is like the first man on the moon,” (Wilton Daniel Gregory, president of The United States’ bishops). Nevermind Veltroni, Maria Giovanna Maglie will take care of him, what matters is that “The world is dancing from Berlin to London, from Paris to Africa”, as Il Corriere says (for the purpose of pure, objective journalism, they would reply). But it's ture, the world will change; starting next year there will be three Christmases and only days of celebration, if everyone will make love as they wish and the priests will be allowed to marry, but only at a certain age.

I am among those who shared the satisfaction of Obama’s victory and I agree to the last word to what John McCain said: “This is an historic election, and I recognize the special significance it has for African-Americans and for the special pride that must be theirs tonight.” I believe Obama will be a good president and I was overcome by emotion when I saw so many young people crying tears of happiness. I thought about African American teenagers and how many generations of sacrifice stand behind those tears. To cut it short, long live Obama, long live the first black president!

Even so, a somewhat childish enthusiasm makes me smile, the blind trust in political power, the faith in a president who will solve all the problems of the world. It was just yesterday when I learned that the magnificent speech which Obama held on the night of the victory was written by a member of his staff, a 27 year old man. Basically, the speech wasn’t his. This information should give us a better sense of reality, so that we take politics for what it really is, and not for what it could be. Politics is important, necessary, but relative: it serves for situations that pass anyway, it serves to shine light on people who are imperfect either way. A bad politician can surely bring hell on Earth, but no good politician can lead us straight to heaven. What will the enthusiasts say after Obama will pragmatically make his first prosaic decision? Let us remember, politics means first of all, pragmatism. And what will the enthusiasts say when Obama will reconfirm the NATO base in Vicenza?

The divinization of politics (and, extensively, of those who do it) is one of the greatest shams of the modern era. Since the enlightenment, a new world religion was born, a religion that promises something it cannot give: happiness. The disasters of the 19th century apparently meant nothing. I repeat: Long live Obama. The end of discrimination is indeed a sign of hope. But how pathetic is the enthusiasm of he who pictures the road of politics as a more or less smooth way to a new Eden. Up until now, politics hasn’t given anyone the joy to live. Let alone salvation.

[Guest]

<b>Obama tried calling me up: PM</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Obama had phoned fifteen world leaders, including Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari after being elected US President.

As Singh did not get any call from Obama, there were suggestions that the next US President was ignoring India. <b>Singh said Obama had written to him a "very warm"</b> letter even before he was elected President.
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Yes that letter says, Moron Singh give up your nuke and give Kashmir to Pakistan, for Shame of India that is warm letter.

[shamu]

Ha ha... MMS was desparately waiting for Obama's call. He would have rushed from anywhere if there was a call.

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<!--QuoteBegin-shamu+Nov 11 2008, 02:29 PM-->QUOTE(shamu @ Nov 11 2008, 02:29 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ha ha... MMS was desparately waiting for Obama's call. He would have rushed from anywhere if there was a call.
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How many times we got calls and emails from Obama in last 6 months, <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> and MMS is still sitting next to phone. Too bad.

[acharya]

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Racial Gerrymandering Is Unnecessary
By ABIGAIL THERNSTROM and STEPHAN THERNSTROM

The conventional wisdom among voting-rights advocates and political scientists has been that whites will not vote for black candidates in significant numbers. Hence the need for federal protection in the form of race-based districts that create safe black constituencies where black candidates are sure to win.

But the myth of racist white voters was destroyed by this year's presidential election.

Although six out of 10 votes cast for Barack Obama came from whites, he did not win an overall majority of white votes -- he lost among this group 43%-55%. But no Democrat since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964 has won the majority of whites. The reason is simple: Just as African-Americans and Hispanics are disproportionately Democrats, whites are now disproportionately Republicans.

Remember Mr. Obama's weak performance with working-class white voters during the primaries? Many speculated at the time, and right up to Nov. 4, that those voters who pulled the lever for Hillary Clinton would defect to John McCain.

Not so. Mr. Obama's 43% share of the white vote in the general election was actually a tad larger than that of John Kerry in 2004 (41%) or Al Gore in 2000 (42%).

So what happened to all those "racists" or "rednecks" that John Murtha spoke of so recently? If there had been that many of them, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Virginia and Florida would have gone the other way, and we would have a President-elect McCain today. Racism is the Sherlock Holmes dog that did not bark in the night.

Consider Iowa, with only a miniscule African-American population. The 5% of voters who said race was the most important factor in their choice of whom to vote for backed Mr. Obama 54% to 45%. Or consider Minnesota and Wisconsin, also overwhelmingly white, where Mr. Obama's lead was 18% and 21% respectively among the 5% to 7% of voters who made race their highest priority.

These results do not mean we now live in a color-blind society. But we can say that the doors of electoral opportunity in America are open to all.

The aggressive federal interference in state and local districting decisions enshrined in the Voting Rights Act should therefore be reconsidered. That statute, adopted in 1965 and strengthened by Congress in the summer of 2006, demands race-driven districting maps to protect black candidates from white competition. That translates into an effort to create black representation proportional to the black population in the jurisdiction.

That law gave federal courts and the Justice Department what are, in effect, extraordinary war powers to combat the evil of ongoing Southern black disfranchisement. But blacks are no longer disfranchised -- by any definition.

In fact, racially gerrymandered districts are an impediment to political integration at all levels of government. Herding African-Americans into "max-black" districts forces black candidates to run in heavily gerrymandered districts. The candidates who emerge from those districts are, unsurprisingly, typically not the most well-positioned to appeal to a broader swath of the electorate.

Black candidates can win in multi-ethnic and even majority-white districts with color-blind voting. Mr. Obama should make it a priority to give more aspiring black politicians the opportunity to stand before white (and Latino and Asian and other ethnic) voters. He won, so can they.

American voters have turned a racial corner. The law should follow in their footsteps.

Ms. Thernstrom is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Mr. Thernstrom is professor of history at Harvard University. They are the co-authors of "America in Black and White: One Nation Indivisible" (Simon & Schuster, 1997).

Please add your comments to the Opinion Journal forum.

[Capt M Kumar]

<!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> In cartoons, for example, President Abraham Lincoln was described as "Abraham Africanus, the First." Warren Harding refused to deny that he had African ancestors. Calvin Coolidge attributed his mother’s dark skin to her mixed Indian ancestry. A body of literature exists on Black presidents in the White House. It includes books by J.A. Rogers, Dr. Auset Bakhufu and David Coyle. These books point out that six presidents had African blood, but were able to pass for white.

Federal law enforcement agents from the Justice Department seized and destroyed all copies of William Chancellor’s book on Warren Harding and also seized and destroyed a Life magazine depicting a photo of President Dwight Eisenhower’s mother. She was a "mulatto."

http://blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=5113

[acharya]

Why do they put AD such as this in Indian newspapers

http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/20/stories/...201200.htm

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[Guest]

It is stupid Indian Commie Newspaper who link with these ads for penies.
These commies need money from everywhere to keep commie agenda alive.

[Capt M Kumar]

<!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <b>http://www.hotairpolitics.net</b>/

[Guest]

<b>Businessman Raghuveer Nayak and Gov. Blagojevich’s aide Rajinder Bedi raised money to buy Obama’s Senate sear for Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr</b>.<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I knew there had to be some sort of fire where I saw smoke.

According to Chicago Tribune, businessman Raghuveer Nayak who had ties to both Gov. Rod Blagojevich and U.S Rep. Jesse Jackson discussed raising $1 million for Blagojevich to help persuade him to appoint Jackson to President-elect Obama’s Senate seat.

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.  Like father like son.  After all, Jackson Sr. was the originator of “pay-to-play”.

Chicago Tribune states that Nayak, and Blagojevich’s aide Rajinder Bedi, attended a meeting October 31 and at the meeting, they told attendees they needed to raise a million dollars for the governor to ensure Jackson’s appointment.  It is alleged that Blagojevich attended the same meeting.

On October 31, federal prosecutors intercepted a conversation in which Blagojevich claims a representative for “Senate Candidate #5″ offered him cash in exchange for the Senate seat. Blagojevich said in the conversation, “we were approached ‘pay to play, the candidate would raise $500,000 for me and an emissary would raise an additional $1 million.”

Yesterday, we all found the infamous candidate #5, is Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.

Looks like we are finally getting rid  of another Jesse Jackson
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Who is Bedi ?
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Gov. Rod Blagojevich's main fund-raiser in the Indian community was newspaper owner Rajinder Bedi, a turbaned Sikh.

"Rod promised me that if he won he would make everyone in Illinois know what a Sikh is," said Bedi, who has stood on stages next to the governor at high-profile events - a gesture, said Bedi, that might seem insignificant, but does a lot to help Sikhs gain acceptance.

But the greatest gain may be in the flowering of the Sikh community. The Palatine gurdwara will finish a $2 million expansion project this fall and there are gurdwaras in Chicago and Island Lake.
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