Came via email a 18 year old's response on Shivraj Patil's resignation.
She's hit it right notes. If a 18 year old can see and think so clearly, our hopes for the future of this nation is indeed bright.
Emphasis mine...
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Our Home Minister, the Hon Mr Shivraj Patil has resigned.
The Hon M. Shivraj Patil has very graciously taken moral responsibility for the Mumbai attacks. One's heart goes out to the Hon Mr Shivraj Patil, who will forever be remembered fondly as one who housed no bitterness in his heart when he resigned, after failing to do his job and protect the citizens of his country.
The Hon Mr Shivraj Patil must be a very relieved man as well. I'm guessing that's what he implied when he said that he felt that a great burden had been lifted off his shoulders. It is a pity when one has a job that one is not particularly fond of.
<b>I'm awfully sorry for the Hon Mr Shivraj Patil, that he wasn't briefed about the responsibilities of the post of the Home Minister when he was sworn into office. Such a shame, really. How could one have been so inconsiderate to the Hon Mr Shivraj Patil? I truly hope he is happier, now that the burden of a nation's security is off his shoulders and now that he has washed his people's blood off his fair, moisturised hands.</b>
I hope I don't sound too bitter. I'm trying to emulate the Hon Mr Shivraj Patil, but I don't have the same amount of graciousness or dignity he does. So, I'm going to allow myself this rant.
<b> What did Mr Patil mean when he said he didn't feel bitter?
What is it that HE ought to be bitter about?
That he didn't do his job?
That he let people die because of his soft stand on terrorism?
That he muttered and mumbled and simpered long enough for two-dozen, well-armed men to hold a city to ransom like this?
What is HE bitter about?
If his job was such a burden, why didn't he step down long before this and let someone else do his job?</b>
How dare he imply that the lives of all those who died, because HE let them down, was a burden?
Dear Sir, this is not about how this has affected you. This is not about you.
It is about this country and its people - one that you let down.
One that you have given enough cause to be bitter about.
The Hon Mr Shivraj Patil is only a symbol of our entire political system. Not being a political science student, I don't know what exactly political science students are taught about election campaigns. But I'm sure that professors of this subject will agree with me when I say that a hostage situation is not one that you milk for votes. A terrorist attack is not one that you utilise to gain power at the Centre. You don't use your peoples' blood to colour your money, your power and your posts.
What do we do? I don't know. I have no answers.
Can we threaten to not vote until all our leaders collectively take steps to ensure that we no longer fall prey to negligence of this kind?
What do we do? Sit quiet and wait for everybody in this government to resign, so that another equally inefficient and corrupt government can come to power?
All I have are questions and a few, minimal expectations. I want somebody who doesn't consider the people he's serving a burden.
One that won't request me to fall back on my spirit to tide through terror attacks. One that will realise that power is not a tool to be used for personal gain.
This is not about whether our leaders feel morally responsible, or whether they feel they've failed us. This is about making sure they never fail us again.
S R is an 18-year-old,
*YBA student studying at St Xavier's College in Mumbai
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Joshi felt that the job of picking the chief minister should have been best left to the elected members of the assembly constituencies. There was no need to involve Antony and Mukherjee, at a time when they should have been manning their posts.
Agni coordinator Shama Kulkarni said, âWhat has happened is an absolute disgrace. At a time when foreign agencies were busy with their terror investigations, Narayan Raneâs supporters were demonstrating outside Mantralaya after he was not picked CM.â She added that it was essential that we vote, but having done so, we should also be âable to hold on to the power stringsâ.
Lok Satta Aandolan spokesperson Surendra Srivastava said, âFor the past 12 years, we have been highlighting the need for democratising political parties through direct elections to crucial posts, like chief minister and mayor, so that genuine leaders are there at the helm.â
But, he lamented, it had never been so. âOnly a few families control politics in India. They ignore genuine and able grassroot workers and appoint family members and relatives to crucial posts. The political parties are only concerned about winning the next elections. To them, the one who is capable of buying voters with alcohol and money is the best person to become the chief minister. Commitment and integrity count for
nothing.â
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i doubt he will do anything other than making noises.
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Suspended Congress leader Narayan Rane on Saturday hit out at his rivals within the party, saying some Indian political leaders were supporting external forces and financing terror activities in the country.
"The government must conduct an inquiry into this aspect and if required, I can provide evidence. I am making this statement with full responsibility," Rane told a packed media conference at his residence in Mumbai.
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"Deshmukh, along with state party president Manikrao Thakre and Mumbai party chief Kripa Shankar Singh, with the backing of some industrialists, conspired to prevent me from becoming chief minister, though 48 legislators had proposed my name - as compared to 32 who supported Chavan - to the party's central observers," Rane said.
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Continuing his attack on Deshmukh, Rane read out what he said were official government records proving that the outgoing chief minister had been involved in a number of land scams.
He threatened that he had gathered "so much evidence against Deshmukh" that he could expose a new scam every day.
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<b>Haryana Deputy CM converts to Islam, sacked</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Chander Mohan, who was Haryanaâs Deputy Chief Minister before he was dropped on Sunday, is now Chand Mohammad after he espoused Islam as his new religion and married Anuradha Bali, the Stateâs former assistant advocate general, who would now be known as Shiza.
The development comes as a major setback to the Congress, who had retained Chander Mohan, son of former Chief Minister Bhajan Lal, to the party fold, while his brother MP Kuldeep Singh Bishnoi has floated his own outfit-Haryana Janhit Congress.
Chander Mohan had mysteriously disappeared for nearly two months, and had surfaced only a week back, saying he was on a pilgrimage and would resume office soon.
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"The party would certainly act," said Mulana, but refused to comment on the former<b> Deputy Chief Minister's decision to go for remarriage without seeking legal divorce from his present wife, who continues to be a Hindu.</b>
As the deputy of Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda, Chander Mohan was holding the charge of Food and Civil Supplies portfolio.
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<b>After Rane, son takes on Congress</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Injustice has been done to my father by Congress leadership," Nitesh said, describing Congress leaders as "impotent".
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As the scuffle turned violent with Nitesh's supporters allegedly tearing off banners and hoarding with photographs of Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh [Images], police used force, caning Nitesh's men, to disperse them.
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CBI tells SC: Reprieve to Mulayam under govt orders
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NEW DELHI: The CBI's attempt to safeguard its image as a professional and regime-neutral agency suffered a body blow as it conceded before the
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Why I am not surprised? Mullah Yadav and Amar Singh are milking now.
Law Minister at the wheel in CBIâs U-turn on Mulayam case
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NEW DELHI: The Central Bureau of Investigationâs U-turn withdrawing its interim application in the Mulayam Singh Yadav disproportionate assets case this week came after Solicitor General Goolam E Vahanvati criticised the manner in which the agency calculated his assets and clubbed them with those of his relatives.
Vahanvatiâs six-page opinion, âacceptedâ in writing by Law Minister H R Bharadwaj and effectively demolishing the CBI case, came days after an intervention by Mulayamâs daughter-in-law Dimple Yadav (wife of son Akhilesh Yadav).
In a letter on October 27 this year, she wrote to Prithviraj Chauhan, Minister of State for Personnel & Training â the DoPT is the CBIâs administrative Ministry â asking him to take âappropriate steps in the interest of justice.â
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Compare that with its affidavit on October 26, 2007 where the CBI had said that it had completed the preliminary enquiry to ascertain whether the Yadav family owned assets disproportionate to their known sources of income.
The CBI had then said that it would file a regular case if verifications/enquires indicated commission of offence.
Surprisingly, CBIâs latest affidavit seeking withdrawal of the case makes no mention of its verifications or enquiries.
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Opp livid over clean chit to Amar, Reoti Raman, Ahmed Patel
Samajwadi Party leader Amar Singh and Congress veteran Ahmed Patel have been absolved of the charges of bribing three Bharatiya Janata Party MPs to save the UPA Government during the July 22 trust vote. The decision has drawn sharp criticism from the Opposition, which has claimed that the truth had become a victim of power play.
Submitting its conclusions, a parliamentary panel which probed the matter under the chairpersonship of Congress MP V Kishore Chandra Deo, found âno caseâ against Ahmed Patel. It noted that his alleged complicity in the episode was based on âpresumptions and surmisesâ. The panel laid its report in the Lok Sabha on Monday.
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These chor had no credibility.
I think the UPA will now go hammer and tongs after BJP and foist all sort of crimnal cases on BJP till the elections are held. How can the Lok Sabha committee abslove all the culprits? That means the innocent will be hanged.
India is under undeclared emergency/dictator rule.
Whether its Judge Banerjee or Parilament com. or Govt Press release , all belongs to complete joke and coverup.
Frontline article
Political Shakeout after Mumbai attack
What does Shivraj Patil bring to the table that he was so Teflon-coated? I dont see he has a following in Maharasthra politics. He s not a thinker. He is not a money bags. He doesnt inspire anyone. Yet he was untochable and from above account sure that he will still keep his job. And was forced out when there were sham resignations from AK Anthony and MMS.
Lok Sabha Debate on Mumbai Terror - LK Advani's Speech
I join each and everybody in this august House to pay condolences to all those innocent civilians, both Indians and foreigners, who lost their lives in these attacks. I join all of you also in paying our grateful homage to the security personnel who were martyred in these attacks. The names of Hemant Karkare, Ashok Kamte, Vijay Salaskar and Sandeep Unnikrishnan have now become household names. But there are also other brave policemen who risked their lives in confronting the terrorists, and the nation is grateful to them for having nabbed at least one of those terrorists alive.
***A nation's character is tested in times of crises like this one. And I must say that the security personnel and civilians who confronted the terrorists have shown what the true character of India is.
***After the battle was over and all the security personnel were boarding the buses in front of Taj Mahal Hotel, an ordinary jawan was asked by the reporter of a TV channel. "How do you feel now?" And the jawan answered, matter-of-factly, "Hamare liye kuch bhi mushkil nahin hai."These words of the Army jawan - "Hamare liye kuch bhi mushkil nahin hai" - should become the motto of the nation in our war against terrorism, and indeed in all our other endeavours in nation-building.
***The draft of the Resolution to be moved in the House, has taken note of the fact that the terrorist attacks are not isolated incidents limited to Mumbai. It has mentioned "the acts of terror committed in Jaipur, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Delhi and other places in India."
Frankly, I was disappointed to find that the near-simultaneous serial bomb blasts in Guwahati and other places in Assam in October this year are not mentioned in the draft resolution. This is a serious lapse. By any reckoning, both the scale and nature of what took place in Assam are a grim reminder of a very dangerous situation that has developed in this sensitive and strategically located state of India.***
India is united in the War on Terror
What I wish to state right at the beginning is that my Party, the BJP, and our Alliance, the NDA, will wholeheartedly support the passage of whatever emerges as the final draft of the resolution after incorporating useful suggestions from Honourable Members.I wish to state this very emphatically that we would like this Resolution to communicate, to all the people of India as well as to the entire international community ¾ and especially to the enemies of India who have waged this War of Terror against our nation ¾ the solid unity of this House, cutting across party lines. This Resolution should convey the unshakeable resolve of the Indian Parliament and Indian People that, in this War against Terror, we stand together, and not apart.
***This point is important because it is not simply about passing a Parliament Resolution. In times to come, our country may be required to take some decisive step if the rulers in Pakistan do not pay heed to the message contained in this Resolution. When this decisive step will be taken, how it will be taken and what its nature should be ¾ these are not questions to be debated today. But I WISH TO ASSURE THE NATION THAT THE BJP AND THE NDA WILL STAND TOGETHER WITH THE GOVERNMENT IF THE MOMENT ARRIVES FOR TAKING A DIFFERENT KIND OF ACTION AGAINST THE PERPETRATORS AND PATRONS OF THESE HEINOUS ACTS OF TERROR.
***Let me quote here from a statement issued by the Core Committee of the BJP on 4th December. "The four day long terrorist attack on Mumbai, India's commercial capital is a challenge that must be rebutted fully, visibly and tellingly. Given that Pakistan has totally rejected all requests of the Government, we expect the Government is assessing the stern steps that are required to ensure that Pakistan desists from pursuing jihadi terrorism.
As a nationalist party, the BJP shall stand by the government in the effective steps it takes in this regard."Let it be clearly understood by the enemies of India that in this War against Terror, THE GOVERNMENT AND THE OPPOSITION ARE UNITED; ALL CASTES AND COMMUNITIES ARE UNITED; ALL STATES ARE UNITED; ALL OF INDIA IS UNITED.
***There is not a shadow of doubt that this was yet another instance of export of terror from Pakistan. Pakistan has been exporting terror into India for the past nearly three decades. There is now a mountain of evidence to show Pakistan's complicity in the terrorist activity in India ¾ first in Punjab, then in Jammu & Kashmir and later all over the country. Yet, when confronted with hard evidence, the successive rulers in Pakistan have resorted to denial, dodging, rationalizing, sometimes justifying, and almost always seeking protection behind falsehoods.
***In the recent terror attacks on Mumbai, what we have seen is not just a thumb impression of Pakistan but a SIGNATURE IN BIG BOLD LETTERS. The terrorists who were involved in the marine attack came from Karachi. Pakistan's President Asif Ali Zardari has admitted that "non-state actors" from his country were involved in the attack. This half-admission from none other than the head of state in Pakistan is extraordinary in many respects. If non-state actors operating from the soil of Pakistan are involved, what is the state of Pakistan doing? What is preventing it from acting against these actors? Or is the whole thing nothing but play-acting to fool India and the international community?
***But there appears to be a new pattern in the way the ISI operates. I would like to quote here from an article in The Pioneer of 29th November 2008, in which Wilson John, a senior fellow with the Observer Research Foundation, writes as follows:"There is evidence of a cabal within the ISI, which noted Pakistani scholar Ahmed Rashid calls 'an ISI within ISI'. This body may be primarily responsible for formulating and executing the Pakistani State's jihadi strategy in Afghanistan and India, while giving the cover of deniability to the Army and civilian establishment."
***Wilson John writes further: (This is from a mail he sent me last night and forms part of his forthcoming book)"One myth that seems to be gaining ground in the western world is that this group is a `renegade` group within ISI and is not in control of the Army. Nothing could be more misleading and dangerous. When President Musharraf came under pressure from India and the western world to `turn the tap off` on terrorism, ISI's operations were quietly and effectively taken over by a group of retired officers, many of whom were recruited as consultants. This allowed the Pakistan government a clever but quite effective excuse to deny its involvement in the terrorist attacks launched against India."
***Howsoever hard Pakistan's rulers might try to pretend that the ISI has nothing to do with terrorist organizations like Lashkar-e-Taiba, the evidence to the contrary is compelling. A report in Washington Post on 5th December 2008 mentions that none other than Pakistan's current ambassador in the United States, Husain Haqqani, wrote in 2005, while he was a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace: "The most significant jihadi group of is Lashkar-e-Taiba which is backed by Saudi money and protected by Pakistani intelligence services." ***
What is the goal of terrorists?
It is important for us to know - and for the entire world to know - who has been carrying out these terror attacks, it is equally important that we know why they are being carried out. We are sometimes shy of discussing the ideology and goal of the terrorist campaign from Pakistan. However, without a clear understanding of this aspect, our strategy to counter this menace will not be effective. After all, for some people to agree to become suicide attackers, there must be a very strong motivation that is rooted in extraordinary zeal. And this is where it is highly disturbing to note that that there are forces in Pakistan who are unrelenting in their hatred for India and who misuse the name of Islam to whip up the anti-India sentiment.
***Lashkar-e-Taiba is quite explicit about why it wants to talk to India in the language of force. In a pamphlet titled "Why we are waging jihad", it states that its ideology goes beyond merely challenging India's sovereignty over the state of Jammu & Kashmir. It also affirms that its agenda includes "the restoration of Islamic rule over all parts of India". Lashkar-e-Taiba declares India, USA and Israel as "existential enemies of Islam". It is therefore not surprising that, in their attacks in Mumbai, the terrorists from Pakistan specifically targeted the Jews living in Nariman House.***
Real target of terrorists' attack: IDEA OF INDIA
Two things become very clear from the ideological motive behind the terror campaign against India.
Firstly, it is wrong on anybody's part to think that Kashmir is the root cause of Pak-supported terrorism. Secondly, the agenda of organizations like Lashkar-e-Taiba poses a potent threat to the very Civilisational Ethos of India. Since time immemorial, India has welcomed every faith that has come to our land. And that includes Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Zoroastrianism. India has always held all faiths to be true, has respected all faiths, and never discriminated people on the basis of their faith. Therefore, what we see in the terrorist attacks in Mumbai and previously in other places is an attack on our tradition of tolerance and peaceful co-existence amongst various faiths.
***This however does not mean that India's response to the threat of terrorism inspired by religious extremism is targeted against any particular religion or community. I would like to reiterate here what I have often said in the recent past ¾ namely, that terrorism has no religion and also that no faith or community should be stigmatized for the criminal acts of a few individuals or groups.As a matter of fact, the expression of Indian Muslims' anger over the terrorist attacks in Mumbai is a highly significant development.
Recently, a large congregation of Muslim clerics gathered in Hyderabad under the aegis of Jamiat-Ulema-i-Hind and passed a resolution against terrorism. This deserves to be welcomed.
***After the mayhem in Mumbai, M.J. Akbar, an eminent journalist and writer, and a former Member of this House, wrote in Toronto Star:"I am an Indian and a Muslim and proud to be both. Like any Indian, today I am angry, frustrated and depressed. I am angry at the manic dogs of war who have invaded Mumbai." Akbar also wrote something else which this House must take note of:"I am frustrated by the impotence of my government in Mumbai and Delhi, tone-deaf to the anguish of my fellow citizens. And I am depressed at the damage being done to the Idea of India."***
Colossal failure of governance
Today the feeling of anger and anguish among the people is palpable. Why are the people angry? Some people have tried to direct this anger against the political class as a whole, but, as more and more facts are reported in the media, the fact cannot be denied that the people are demanding answers from the rulers in New Delhi and Mumbai.The UPA Government at the Centre and the Congress-NCP Government in Maharashtra cannot shirk accountability, nor can they pretend that they have done all that is necessary by way of accountability by getting the Union Home Minister, the Chief Minister of Maharashtra and the Deputy Chief Minister of Maharashtra to resign.
***Many people are asking: Why have no heads rolled in the top echelons of bureaucracy? There is a survey in today Times of India that shows that over 40% of the respondents have held the Prime Minister accountable. After all, what the country has come to know in the aftermath of the Mumbai terror attacks is not just INTELLIGENCE FAILURE but GOVERNANCE FAILURE ON A COLOSSAL SCALE.
The Opposition is not making an issue of prime ministerial responsibility because his government is now at the fag end of its five-year term. I am sure the people will give their verdict when parliamentary elections are held in early 2009.***
Questions the Government must answer
In today's debate, however, the government has a responsibility to answer many questions about the total collapse of intelligence coordination between various agencies and also the utter failure of the political leadership to strengthen the internal security apparatus.
And I would like the Prime Minister and the Home Minister to answer these questions:
1) My colleague Shri Arun Shourie, in an article in the Indian Express on 1st December 2008, has given excerpt after excerpt from the speeches of the Prime Minister, Defence Minister, former Home Minister, and National Security Advisor, all of whom seemed to be aware of an imminent terrorist attack through the sea route.
My question to the Prime Minister and his colleagues is this: "To whom were your advice and warnings directed? Are you here to govern or to tender advice?"
2) In the immediate aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Mumbai, various agencies started saying that the intelligence they had was not specific. However, in the days that have followed, there is clear indication that fairly specific information was available that a marine attack on Mumbai was in the offing.
I would like to know from the Government:
a) What intelligence did the Coast Guard and the Navy have on Al-Hussaini, the Pakistani ship that carried the LeT terrorists from Karachi?
b) The Coast Guard had faxed a very specific alert to the BSF on the arrival of the Lashkar ship six days before the attack. Why was this alert not acted upon?
c) Why was there a delay of many hours in the arrival of the NSG commandos in Mumbai?
d) What time did the Crisis Management Group meet in New Delhi?
e) As reported in the latest issue of Outlook magazine, is it true that on November 26, when terrorists struck Mumbai, the national security advisor was at a party thrown by a Congress MP from Bihar at his residence and that he left around 11.20 pm, a full two hours after the attack had begun?
f) Why are there persistent reports of dissatisfaction in the ranks of IB and RAW, and also about the lack of coordination between the two?
3) On a more long-term policy and implementation level, I would like to know from the Government the action taken on a whole host of recommendations made by the four Task Forces on Internal Security, which were set up in pursuance of the direction given by the Kargil Review Committee? These were the most comprehensive recommendations since Independence for the overhaul of India's internal security apparatus. The implementation of these recommendations had begun during the NDA rule. I would like to know how this was followed up.
4) Post 26/11, the Government has given Pakistan a list of 20 fugitives, including Dawood Ibrahim, to be handed over to India. I would like to know what efforts were made by the Government of India in this direction in the past five years? Or is it the first time in five years that the issue of Dawood Ibrahim was raised with Pakistan?***
Amendments in the Resolution
The draft Resolution needs to be amended to better reflect the mood of the nation and the requirements of a resolute struggle against Pak-supported terrorism. Hence, I would like the following points to be included in the Resolution.
1) India shall take its diplomatic, political and operational efforts in the war against Pak-supported terrorism to its logical conclusion by insisting that Pakistan fully and irreversibly dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism built on its soil and being operated jointly by state and non-state actors, and further that Pakistan abide by the letter and spirit of the Joint Statement issued in January 2004 after the meeting between Prime Minister Vajpayee and President Musharraf.
2) The Government shall promptly abide by the judgements of the judiciary in respect of the past acts of terrorism such as the attack on Indian Parliament on 13 December 2001 and also the Supreme Court's directive, after the annulment of the IMDT Act, on stopping the influx of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh.
3) The Government shall constitute a Commission of Inquiry, headed by a retired judge of the Supreme Court, to go into all aspects of the intelligence and governance failures that contributed to the 26/11 terrorist attacks on Mumbai, and fix individual and institutional responsibility for the same.
4) The Government shall quickly initiate all necessary steps to strengthen the internal security apparatus in its totality by implementing the recommendations of the various task forces and committees.
5) The Government shall initiate necessary steps to enact in the current session of Parliament a stringent law against terrorism as recommended by the Administrative Reforms Commission.
6) The Government shall immediately recommend to the President to give her consent to the pending legislations against organized crime from various state legislatures on a non-discriminatory basis.
<b>Sonia can hold constitutional posts: Centre to SC</b>
By A Correspondent | December 19, 2008 | 16:54 IST
The Centre has told the Supreme Court that Congress president Sonia Gandhi can hold constitutional posts.
In a counter-affidavit, the Centre also said that Sonia Gandhi has been in India for more than 35 years as a citizen, and she is an Indian.
Further details are awaited.
URL for this article:
http://www.rediff. com///news/ 2008/dec/ 19sonia-can- hold-constitutio nal-posts- centre-to- sc.htm
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By A Correspondent | December 19, 2008 | 16:54 IST
The Centre has told the Supreme Court that Congress president Sonia Gandhi can hold constitutional posts.
In a counter-affidavit, the Centre also said that Sonia Gandhi has been in India for more than 35 years as a citizen, and she is an Indian.
Further details are awaited.
URL for this article:
http://www.rediff. com///news/ 2008/dec/ 19sonia-can- hold-constitutio nal-posts- centre-to- sc.htm
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Getting ready to replace MMS and take direct control. all family retainers are only retainers. need to have direct rul eor masses will blame INC.
My take is that Kalam did bring some clause related to reciprocity and asked here to furnish some doc/proof. This could have led to some publicty of the unknown factor to public.
This SC thing is to circumvent that and show this as proof for getting to the chair. What is her problem. Why can't she just make Rahul Gandhi as PM? Something different goofy events are happening all over and the mindbogling things are so difficult and my low brain is not able to connect all the dots anymore.
<!--QuoteBegin-Muppalla+Dec 21 2008, 02:53 AM-->QUOTE(Muppalla @ Dec 21 2008, 02:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->My take is that Kalam did bring some clause related to reciprocity and asked here to furnish some doc/proof. This could have led to some publicty of the unknown factor to public.
This SC thing is to circumvent that and show this as proof for getting to the chair. What is her problem. Why can't she just make Rahul Gandhi as PM? Something different goofy events are happening all over and the mindbogling things are so difficult and my low brain is not able to connect all the dots anymore.
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Muppallaji,
By the very same reason that Maino cannot ascend the gaddi (that you seem to accept), her son too cannot become the P.M. Please familiarise yourself with that reason clearly.
Actually if my info is correct Kalam, on the basis of counsel from Dr.Subramanian Swamy, told Maino that if she insists on becoming the P.M. he would refer the matter to the S.C. That did it!
To That same Dr.Swamy when he approached the S.C. to disqualify Maino for lying about her education in the nomination form, the S.C. requested him not to insist. I wonder if the S.C. will have the courage to uphold the law of reciprocity. If not...?
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