|
India-Israel Co-operation and Challenges
|
|
01-08-2009, 11:04 AM
<b>PM vows unwavering support to Palestine</b>
That is why Moron Singh let Jews get killed by his Paki Muslim brothers in Nariman House. 
01-09-2009, 05:13 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jan 8 2009, 11:04 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jan 8 2009, 11:04 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>PM vows unwavering support to Palestine</b>
That is why Moron Singh let Jews get killed by his Paki Muslim brothers in Nariman House. [right][snapback]92803[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What palestine? I don't recognise any 'palestine'. Rome's Palestina is long gone.
01-09-2009, 06:14 PM
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/01/wha...n-its-arms.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->What if Israel lays down its arms? jan 7th, 2009 true enough. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: sri Here is an interesting quote: If the Arabs (christoislamics of Arabian ethnicity) lay down their arms there will be no war. If Israel lays down its arms there will be no Israel<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
01-09-2009, 06:19 PM
For those naives having sympathy for palestinian children casualties
If it is a boy, he would have grown to be a jihadi If it is girl, she would have breeded a dozen jihadis Consider Tsunamis, earthquakes , floods, that affect islamic population as divine culling of demons
<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Jan 9 2009, 06:19 PM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Jan 9 2009, 06:19 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->For those naives having sympathy for palestinian children casualties[right][snapback]92860[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The first news about the recent battle going on in the ME mentioned 2 children had been killed. Then they admitted it: an islamaniac attempt to attack Israelis (soldiers?) backfired and kids on the islami side ended up dead instead.
All the Palestinian children who've died are due only to islam. Palestinians of ME are trying to buy their way to international sympathy through the bloodletting of their own children. Despicable ideology christoislamism. Just sick. <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Consider Tsunamis, earthquakes , floods, that affect islamic population as divine culling of demons <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The 'demon' is the christoislamic mindvirus. Those people by rights - by nature - ought to have been Natural Traditionalists. Their real Gods want them back.
01-11-2009, 03:40 AM
"Mumbai wasn't just about Pakistanis seeking retribution against India's Hindus......"
".....because if that were the case they wouldn't have targeted and tortured and murdered Jews. * So let us call Mumbai what it is, Islamic terrorism -- Islamic terrorism... .. * It is an ideology of hatred and violence, a method of committing the most heinous acts known to man, * all in the name of a religion, all in the name of Islam. Joe Kaufmann Coalition of Hindu, Jewish, Christian Organizations against Mumbai Terrorist Attack http://www.prlog. org/10156248- peace-rally- in-florida- on-mumbai- terror-attacks. html Hundreds in South Florida participated in a Peace Rally and candlelight vigil last evening to show solidarity with the victims of Jihadi terrorist attacks in Mumbai India. The rally was attended by a cross section of people from Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Buddhists, Jain and Sikh communities. The peace rally started at about 4PM at Las Olas Blvd in Ft. Lauderdale and the mourners marched towards Beach Place shouting slogans against Jihadhists. Shanti (Peace) Mantras and Har Har Mahadev, slogans were chanted during the procession. "It is an ideology of hatred and violence, a method of committing the most heinous acts known to man, all in the name of a religion, all in the name of Islam. Mumbai wasn't just about Pakistanis seeking retribution against India's Hindus, because if that were the case they wouldn't have targeted and tortured and murdered Jews. So let us call Mumbai what it is, Islamic terrorism -- Islamic terrorism." said Joe Kaufmann the chairman of 'Americans against Hate' with a loud applause from the attendees. He ended his speech by saying that "To the world's Muslims, I say get out from hiding and speak out against the groups that commit this evil, because you know that your radical brethren target you as well. And to the world, I say do the right thing -- before it's too late to do anything." "In the wake of this terrible tragedy there are few words of comfort that can be offered as we collectively mourn the loss of those lives lost in Mumbai Massacre. This was an act of Jihadi terrorism inspired by radical Islamic ideology. And to deny this truth is to deny any measure of Justice that can be afforded the victims we now mourn." said Adam Hasner. Majority leader in the Florida House of representative in a written statement read at the rally. In an emotionally charged speech Rabbi Andrew Jacobs of the Ramat Shalom said "200 innocent victims were murdered and 300 innocent souls were injured in Mumbai, and make no mistake the attacks on Hindus, Jews, Westerners and other were not simply an attack against India, it was another battle waged by brutal terrorists as they pursue their Global Jihad." "We the American people, and the Indian people and people around the world will stand against Islamic terrorism and we will win, we will have victory. The way we can win is this: three things - through love, unity and education. We must educate the world concerning Islamic fascism. To win against it you have to name the enemy that you are fighting. You are fighting Islamic fascism. They are out to destroy all the western and decent cultures along with Israel" said, Reverend O'Neal Dozier of the Worldwide Christian Church. "We have gathered here to show our sympathy, concern, support and solidarity with all the families who have lost their loved ones and hundreds injured by this heinous barbaric and cowardly act in Mumbai India, on 26th of Nov, by the ruthless Islamic terrorist organization from Pakistan" said Dr. Iyengar. These sentiments were reciprocated by Dr. Vinod Patel who reminded the gathering the need to condemn the 'Global Jihadi terrorism' for killing fellow human beings unprovoked and in cold blood and urged the authorities in India to do their duty to protect the mankind and not get swayed away by politics. It was a show of unity and solidarity between various Hindu, Jewish and Christian groups which came and stood together against the nefarious design of Jihadi terrorists. The crowd was not to be deterred by a windy South Florida afternoon and lit candles and immersed flowers in the ocean in the memory of victims. A resolution adopted on this occasion urged the government of United States to intensify its campaign against global terrorism, particularly the one perpetrated by its so-called allies and others in the Indian sub-continent and declare such nations as Rogue nations. Coalition of Community Organizations United against Global Terrorism Americans Against Hate Ramat Shalom Christians and Jews United for Israel Unitarian Universalist Congregation World Wide Christian Center Shiva Vishnu Temple South Florida Hindu Temple Jain Center Of South Florida Shiva Mandir Florida Arya Samaj Sindhi Association of Florida Florida Security Council Shri Laxmi Narayan Temple Palm Beach India Association International Kashmir Federation (IKF) Indian Religious and Cultural Center (IRCC) United Hindu Front World Hindu Council of America http://coalitionfor peace.org/
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jan 8 2009, 11:04 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jan 8 2009, 11:04 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>PM vows unwavering support to Palestine</b>
That is why Moron Singh let Jews get killed by his Paki Muslim brothers in Nariman House. [right][snapback]92803[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Related: http://satyabhashnam.blogspot.com/2009/01/...ial-policy.html (via Rajeev2004blogspot ) <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Saturday, January 10, 2009 <b>Congress makes its official Anti-Jew policy loud and clear</b> We saw a few days ago that this Anti-Hindu Anti-Sikh communal nefarious Congress led UPA Government added another star to its long list of religious discrimination and intolerance following its inherited Muslim appeasement policies by doing to Jews what it has been doing to Hindus for more than seven decades. Now Antonia Maino aka Sonia Gandhi headed Congress has made its Anti-Jew policy out and clear. Pranab rules out Gaza-like strikes <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->External affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee on Saturday reiterated that all options were open for India though he ruled out Gaza-like strikes, saying the situation here could not be compared with the ongoing conflict in Gaza. <b>"I have not gone and occupied any (of) Pakistan's land which Israel has done. So, how can situation be comparable,"</b> Mukherjee said when asked whether a response similar to that of Israel can be contemplated by India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Other than the usual post-Terrorist attack parroted statements, blame games, cheap politicking, and piggybacking on the US to do all the dirty work, the Congress led UPA has now made it public and official their stand on Israel. It is clear from Pranad Mukerjee's statement that they are in agreement with the radical Islamist Anti-Jew theory that Israel and Jews have occupied someone else land.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Rest at link. Sonia is a real catholic all right, a True Christian. Anti-semitic to the core. And so is her christo gang 'govt' (UPA). Christoislamicommunazis are always anti-semitic. So predictable.
01-15-2009, 04:41 AM
<b>Why Israel Feels Threatened </b>
By BENNY MORRIS Li-On, Israel December 30, 2008 Op-Ed Contributor http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?optio...d=1035&Itemid=1 Many Israelis feel that the walls â and history â are closing in on their 60-year-old state, much as they felt in early June 1967, just before Israel launched the Six-Day War and destroyed the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian armies in Sinai, the West Bank and the Golan Heights. More than 40 years ago, the Egyptians had driven a United Nations peacekeeping force from the Sinai-Israel border, had closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping and air traffic and had deployed the equivalent of seven armored and infantry divisions on Israel's doorstep. Egypt had signed a series of military pacts with Syria and Jordan and placed troops in the West Bank. Arab radio stations blared messages about the coming destruction of Israel. Israelis, or rather, Israeli Jews, are beginning to feel much the way their parents did in those apocalyptic days. Israel is a much more powerful and prosperous state today. In 1967 there were only some 2 million Jews in the country â today there are about 5.5 million â and the military did not have nuclear weapons. But the bulk of the population looks to the future with deep foreboding. The foreboding has two general sources and four specific causes. The general problems are simple. First, the Arab and wider Islamic worlds, despite Israeli hopes since 1948 and notwithstanding the peace treaties signed by Egypt and Jordan in 1979 and 1994, have never truly accepted the legitimacy of Israel's creation and continue to oppose its existence. Second, public opinion in the West (and in democracies, governments can't be far behind) is gradually reducing its support for Israel as the West looks askance at the Jewish state's treatment of its Palestinian neighbors and wards. The Holocaust is increasingly becoming a faint and ineffectual memory and the Arab states are increasingly powerful and assertive. More specifically, Israel faces a combination of dire threats. To the east, Iran is frantically advancing its nuclear project, which most Israelis and most of the world's intelligence agencies believe is designed to produce nuclear weapons. This, coupled with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's public threats to destroy Israel â and his denials of the Holocaust and of any homosexuality in Iran, which underscore his irrationality â has Israel's political and military leaders on tenterhooks. To the north, the Lebanese fundamentalist organization Hezbollah, which also vows to destroy Israel and functions as an Iranian proxy, has thoroughly rearmed since its war with Israel in 2006. According to Israeli intelligence estimates, Hezbollah now has an arsenal of 30,000 to 40,000 Russian-made rockets, supplied by Syria and Iran â twice the number it possessed in 2006. Some of the rockets can reach Tel Aviv and Dimona, where Israel's nuclear production facility is located. If there is war between Israel and Iran, Hezbollah can be expected to join in. (It may well join in the renewed Israeli-Palestinian conflict, too.) To the south, Israel faces the Islamist Hamas movement, which controls the Gaza Strip and whose charter promises to destroy Israel and bring every inch of Palestine under Islamic rule and law. Hamas today has an army of thousands. It also has a large arsenal of rockets â home-made Qassams and Russian-made, Iranian-financed Katyushas and Grads smuggled, with the Egyptians largely turning a blind eye, through tunnels from Sinai. Last June, Israel and Hamas agreed to a six-month truce. This unsteady calm was periodically violated by armed factions in Gaza that lobbed rockets into Israel's border settlements. Israel responded by periodically suspending shipments of supplies into Gaza. In November and early December, Hamas stepped up the rocket attacks and then, unilaterally, formally announced the end of the truce. The Israeli public and government then gave Defense Minister Ehud Barak a free hand. Israel's highly efficient air assault on Hamas, which began on Saturday, was his first move. Most of Hamas's security and governmental compounds were turned into rubble and several hundred Hamas fighters were killed. But the attack will not solve the basic problem posed by a Gaza Strip populated by 1.5 million impoverished, desperate Palestinians who are ruled by a fanatic regime and are tightly hemmed in by fences and by border crossings controlled by Israel and Egypt. An enormous Israeli ground operation aimed at conquering the Gaza Strip and destroying Hamas would probably bog down in the alleyways of refugee camps before achieving its goal. (And even if these goals were somehow achieved, renewed and indefinite Israeli rule over Gaza would prove unpalatable to all concerned.) More likely are small, limited armored incursions, intended to curtail missile launches and kill Hamas fighters. But these are also unlikely to bring the organization to heel â though they may exercise sufficient pressure eventually to achieve, with the mediation of Turkey or Egypt, a renewed temporary truce. That seems to be the most that can be hoped for, though a renewal of rocket attacks on southern Israel, once Hamas recovers, is as certain as day follows night. The fourth immediate threat to Israel's existence is internal. It is posed by the country's Arab minority. Over the past two decades, Israel's 1.3 million Arab citizens have been radicalized, with many openly avowing a Palestinian identity and embracing Palestinian national aims. Their spokesmen say that their loyalty lies with their people rather than with their state, Israel. Many of the community's leaders, who benefit from Israeli democracy, more or less publicly supported Hezbollah in 2006 and continue to call for "autonomy" (of one sort or another) and for the dissolution of the Jewish state. <b>Demography, if not Arab victory in battle, offers the recipe for such a dissolution. The birth rates for Israeli Arabs are among the highest in the world, with 4 or 5 children per family (as opposed to the 2 or 3 children per family among Israeli Jews). </b> If present trends persist, Arabs could constitute the majority of Israel's citizens by 2040 or 2050. Already, within five to 10 years, Palestinians (Israeli Arabs coupled with those who live in the West Bank and Gaza Strip) will form the majority population of Palestine (the land lying between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean). Friction between Israeli Arabs and Jews is already a cogent political factor. In 2000, at the start of the second intifada, thousands of Arab youngsters, in sympathy with their brethren in the territories, rioted along Israel's major highways and in Israel's ethnically mixed cities. The past fortnight has seen a recurrence, albeit on a smaller scale, of such rioting. Down the road, Israel's Jews fear more violence and terrorism by Israeli Arabs. Most Jews see the Arab minority as a potential fifth column. What is common to these specific threats is their unconventionality. Between 1948 and 1982 Israel coped relatively well with the threat from conventional Arab armies. Indeed, it repeatedly trounced them. But Iran's nuclear threat, the rise of organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah that operate from across international borders and from the midst of dense civilian populations, and Israeli Arabs' growing disaffection with the state and their identification with its enemies, offer a completely different set of challenges. And they are challenges that Israel's leaders and public, bound by Western democratic and liberal norms of behavior, appear to find particularly difficult to counter. Israel's sense of the walls closing in on it has this past week led to one violent reaction. Given the new realities, it would not be surprising if more powerful explosions were to follow. Benny Morris, a professor of Middle Eastern history at Ben-Gurion University, is the author, most recently, of "1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War."
02-12-2009, 04:09 AM
Looks like Mr Netanyahu will be new Prime Minister of Israel.
sullivan-county.com and other sites already referred to palestinian terrorist Arafat as being an apparent relation of the infamous nazi mufti of Jerusalem.
This person seems to know more of the details: http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91867 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Submitted by Ianus (Poland), May 6, 2007 at 18:15 Pete Farmer wrote : > <i>After the war, the Haj became a respected elder and figurehead in the Pan-Arabist movement of the 1950s and 1960s. He consulted with Egyptian President and leading Pan-Arabist Nasser, and later became a young Yassir Arafat's hero and idol.</i> He was more than that to Arafat . Arafat's mother Hamida Khalifa al-Husseini was a cousin to the very same Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini . So Arafat was his nephew or grand-newphew and his full name was Muhammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Husseini. To avoid negative impression this might have on the Western media, Amin al-Husseini's nephew simply shortened his name. The trick worked .<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/92465 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Submitted by Ianus (Poland), May 10, 2007 at 16:12 Dear Seamus MacNemi , Thanks a lot for your valuable comments . > Well. I think we're finally on the same page in the same book. We share perhaps more things than we previously thought . You're no Moslem, nor am I . And I am in favour of kafir solidarity. > Tell us more of what you know about <b>Haj Mohamed Amin AlHusseini.</b> (AKA Arafat's uncle) The story would be too long to tell as he deserves a more competent and critical biographer- on the par with his idol Hitler. Let me just refer a few things from a Nazi book published in 1942 : " The English , the Jews , the Arabs in Palestine" by Giselher Wirsing , where a whole chapter (p.141-151) is devoted to him . He belonged to the powerful al-Husseini clan opposed by the Nashashibis . He virulently condemned in 1917 the Balfour declaration from the very moment he had learnt of it . In 1919 he went on his first pilgrimage (hence his title "Haj") to Mecca where he met the sheriff Hussein . He soon gained much esteem in Palestine for his radical views and Moslem piety. Next year he organized the first major anti-Jewish riots which didn't prevent the British to appoint him soon the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem as at that point the Brits wanted to weaken the Nashashibi clan that seemed to powerful to them. That the conversation with Hussein were quite warm and friendly is demonstrated by the fact that he soon got 70 000 pounds from the sheriff "to reconstruct" the Al-Aqsa Mosque . But most probably he used a lot of that money to buy arms in Transjordan where free arms markets existed across the border , although the Grand Mufti was disliked by king Abdallah. He participated in both congresses of Cairo and Mecca that were summoned to re-establish the caliphate abolished by Mustafa Kemal Ghazi . Some even suggested his candidature for caliphate . This idea didn't materialise but brought him much popularity as a saint hero of Islam in its struggle against the evil forces of "world Jewry". In 1931 he summoned a world congress to Jerusalem where 154 deputies participated. But he was not happy about it. He had hoped for many more. From outside Palestine and Transjordan only 66 deputies participated , whereas only the imam of Yemen sent an official governmental representative . To make a virue of necessity he used the congress for the propaganda purposes. He had the remains of his old friend sheriff Hussein who had died in Cyprus under British custody and a Moslem saint from India - Muhammad Ali - solemnly buried within the precincts of the al-Aqsa mosque. The brother of Muhammad Ali became a friend of his and so friendship with Indian Moslems was concluded with plans to use it aginst the infidel British . In the meantime Haj Amin al-Husseini organized the anti-Jewish riots of 1929 . In Hebron and Jerusalem Jews were slaughtered. 25 Arabs were sentenced to death but only 3 were executed. The British wanted visibly no Arab anger. Haj Amin al-Husseini was also involved in the riots of 1936. A memorandum was sent to the British High Comissioner "to form a government with an Arab majority as it was the case in Syria and Iraq" and "to stop any Jewish immigration whatsoever". The Arabs were promised a self-rule status in the future but it didn't satisfy them . In April they began to shoot and kill Jews and declared a "general strike". "The Order of the Insurgent Sheikhs" played a prominent role in the massacres and assaults that followed . In this atmosphere the Grand Mufti founded the "Arab Higher Committee" as a sort of Arab government without British permission where also the Nashashibi clan was represented. The common enemy united all Arabs for some time at least. Many Arabs from outside Palestine joined armed Arab gangs in their anti-Jewish attacks . The most famous of them was Fauzi ed-Din el-Kaukyi from Syria. He was a former Turkish officer and organized Drus fighters against the French. As it became too hot for him in the French-controlled zone he fled to ibn-Saud where he reorganized his army. Then , after Iraq had become independent , he came there and trained Iraqi officers. Some of them were involved in the failed pro-Nazi coup of 1941. In 1936 he turned up in Palestine as "commander-in-chief " of the brigands hunting Jews . To put down the riots the British had to concentrate in Palestine 10 000 soldiers under general Dill. The members of the Arab Higher Committee were arrested and exiled to the Seychelles Islands. But the Grand Mufti was not among them. He was hiding and then re-emerged in Saudi Arabia on another "hajj" to Mecca elaborating new plans on how to kick the Jews out of Palestine or kill them and promote the cause of Allah. But he saw that to that a better partner "partner" than ibn-Saud had to be found. And the obvious choice was Hitler. > His name should be repeated long and often lest people forget and his heinous crimes be again swept under the rug and he be made a hero as he was in the last fifty years. Right. > The British knew all about him, but they did nothing. Nor did his name escape the notice ot the O.S.S., but somehow his name and a lot of others got shuffled in the deck of the game of international "catch me if you can" after the war and he disappeared from the scope. Personally, I fault the Arabists in the British Foreign Office and there were more than a few of those. Opportunism and corruption and false hopes of the Brits helped the Grand Mufti a lot . The British reckoned that they will continue to rule in the Near East after the war , so they didn't want to anger the Arabs by persecuting their "saint". > As well, It cannot be said that The American government was all that sympathetic to the plight of the Jews, even with the evidence of the concentration camps staring them in the face. There was a substantial cabbal of antisemites in the CIA which persisted up until the time of the Six Day War. After the war they began to lose favour as attitudes toward Israel changed and gradually they were phased into obscurity because they had become an embarrasment to the government. Some former CIA instrumentals were even later found to be training terrorists for the Libyan dictator Muhamar Khaddafi. Absolutely right. > It gets thicker and more tangled the more you look at it with the Russians. the Americans , the French and the British all playing a hand. At times it was difficult to see really who was doing what and to whom or why. The Americans seem to have a great knack for shooting themselves in the foot tactically when it comes to international relations. They turn potential allies into inimicable foes as the drop of a hat for reasons that are difficult to discern, by seeming to always chose the wrong side in a conflict. Isn't it because the American political elite is so incompetent and corrupt ? Behind many an innocent mistake perhaps is hidden a bribe , a deceptive promise or simply a politician's hubris ? Comparing the incompetent and self-defeating American policy of today with the analogous policy of the British of yesterday a apt comment sent to a different forum comes to my mind : " In fact, after a lifetime of studying the history of Europe during the 19th and 20th centuries, I have had to conclude, reluctantly, that the British political elite during the period from 1860 to 1950 was unquestionably the most incompetent (...) ignorant, deceitful (...) national leadership to afflict any people in modern times. Imagine. In just two generations British politicians managed to destroy completely Great Britian's empire, squander the fabled wealth of the nation, and encompass the death of two millions of "England's finest"--all in the name of greatness, security, and peace, leaving Britain (forget the "Great") by 1950 a pitiable shadow of its former self. And by 1950 the bureaucratic, redistributionist socialists were in charge, 'national socialism! British variant. They still are." > Had they been willing to recognise Ho Chi Minh, the war in Viet Nam would never have happened. But they shunned him and he turned to the Russians instead. So suddenly (one would suppose) they had a new communist insurgency to deal with. All Dr. Ho wanted was to liberate his country from the vice grip of French colonialism. After all. The Viet Namese people had been the allies of the British and Americans in the war with Japan. What was more natural than for them to wish to continue on the path to independent nation hood and recognition as a legitimate national entity. But the French would not have it, and so the war. > But, I digress. Viet Nam is history and Israel is today, and it's the same old story with only slight variations on the theme. Many people think the world would be a much better place if the Jews would just disappear. It's a mad idea ! The real problems will begin the moment Israel , the last outpost of the West in the Near East , disappears. Having got rid of Israel the rage of the Moslems will turn against the West with all its bloody might. > But, since the Jews stubbornly refuse to oblige them, they hate the Jews. It's Difficult for me to imagine what goes on in the mind of an antisemite. Why all the fuss after all? What is it about a tiny nation of some six or seven million people in a world of billions that makes them stand out both for admiration and scorn. Antisemitism can't be expalained without psychopathology , I think . Envy and hatred born out of inferiority complexes are extremely potent drives in human behaviour. (Not really. Anti-semitism is merely due to christianism and inherited by islamism. They couldn't convert Jews - which would have proved the validity of the christian ideology which is founded on Judaic literature (OT) - so they tried to kill them by generating generational hatred with their propaganda. The lies are still alive and have metamorphosed over time into all kinds of conspiracy theories. But then, that's the legacy of christianism for you: perpetuated hatred.) > Perhaps it's the impact their thinking has had on the world. After all both Christianity and Islam owe their very existences to the fact that the Jews went up to Sinai and recieved the Law of G-d to be given to mankind. The conflict seems to have something of a civil war within the three monotheisms. > Had it not been for Moses , there would never been either a Jesus or a Mohamed. To digress a bit , Moses owes perhaps more to the Egyptian priests than Jesus or Mohammad to him. > But perhaps thats the very crux of the matter. The nations of the world are simply jealous of the favour that G-d showed to the Jews and they all want to get in on the act. Like jealous children vying for the favour of a loving parent, evern body wants to be the first in the line of G-ds favour. Well, it's time for the children to grow up. I agree with you , although I have never approved of the underlying idea of monotheism .<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/91525 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Submitted by Ianus (Poland), May 3, 2007 at 17:11 Dear Seamus MacNemi, you wrote : > Given the amount of information available on the internet and elsewhere in the archives of history, I find it truly amazing that the American educational establishment makes such little effort to bring any of this to light. I learned nothing of any of this in school and, to my knowledge, nothing has ever been mentioned in the media. Small wonder . Too many unpleasant questions and unflattering answers would have been involved. ( Employing high-ranking Nazis , among them many war criminals, was widely practised by the US . Roosevelt's indifference to the fate of the European Jewry despite repeated warnings and desperate requests could not be hidden for ever). In general history hasn't preserved many records of truthful victors. > Contrary to the belief of many, we don't have to go far back in history to find the source of todays problems. It all can be traced to the time between the two world wars with the rize of Nazism in Germany. Moslem antisemtism originated at the very birth of Islam and blaming the Nazis for its resergence now is unfair and strange. Had there been no Nazism , Moslem antisemitism would still be as rabid as it is now , since it has always been part of Moslem identity . I suspect that blaming the Nazis for Moslems' fiendish hatred of Jews reflects a desperate need of the present time to find some "moderate" (=non anti-semitic) Islam to serve as a substitue to the aggresive Moslem world we are facing. But such a theory - which isn't correct to my mind - just circumvents the problem instead of attacking it directly . The problem is namely that Moslems are anti-semites because of Islam , not beacuse of Nazism which is now to all intents and purposes a dead , historically discredited ideology. > Of course, we can't forget the Russians. If it hadn't been for Stalin and the Communist undermining of the Weimar Republic in Germany none of this would have ever come into being. Hitlers rise to power was predicated on the restoration of order in a nation wracked with an economy in ruins, high rates of unemployment and social unrest promulgated by the Communists. I don't know what history book you are following here , dear Seamus MacNemi . But it was not Stalin , but Woodrow Wilson that played a more sinister role in Germany's history in the second and third decade of the 20th century. During and after her surrender in 1918, Germany relied on the false promises ("just peace", "self-determination" etc. ) Wilson had given to her. Had Wilson not lied the Germans into Versailles , no Hitler would have emerged and no Stalinists would have been listened to by the despairing and exasperated masses.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Found on an Israeli (?) forum. The comment seems to be by a Jewish person:
http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforu...22657.aspx <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> Shirrush  Reefdiver 5/8/2007 3:13:22 PM Any identity is also defined by what it is not. <b>Christianity happens to epitomize the very antithesis of Jewish identity. A Jew, be he religious, national, or merely cultural, is first and foremost not a Christian.</b> What's so hard to understand here? Do we need to dig into the muck of <b>18 centuries of relentless Christian hostility towards the Jews</b> to make that point, or will you do it on your own? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Confirms what was already known: that a Jew and a christian are mutually exclusive. But why won't christians get this into their heads, but still continue on with their terrorist claims like "jewish christian" or "christian jew" (or "messianic jew", and other variations). Christianism=replacement theology: appropriation, identity theft, genocide.
05-04-2009, 10:00 PM
07-21-2009, 10:35 AM
Fifteen Lebanese civilians had crossed into Israel last Friday waving Hezbollah flags. The Israeli troops spotted the group, but did not confront them as they returned to south Lebanon minutes later.
This is not the first time when Tel Aviv has accused Indian troops stationed in south Lebanon of having helped Hezbollah. Indian troops were blamed by Tel Aviv for not only quietly watching the abduction of three Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah in October 2000 but even assisting them after having accepted bribes. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/Wo...how/4801490.cms
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/02/m...-roll.html
Quote:Thursday, February 18, 2010 Rock on Israel.
How the professionals do it.
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/02/h...akers.html Quote:How Mossad tackles terror makersAlways comforting to know that Israel at least protects itself. In contrast one remembers the hideous chidembarrassment embarrassingly wafting his fist (so was he waving?) at TSP about 2 terrorist attacks or so ago and declaring to "do something" about it "next time". Roll around Next Time and His Uglyness is still sitting around making the mother of all lame speeches - the "we surrender" but in more roundabout words. At least Israelis look good. Oh and they're competent too. I especially love how they don't give a rat's end what the rest of the world thinks or the howling of the psecular naysaying voices including the Bleeding Hearts variety (that bleed for terrorists onlee of course). Israel's only interest: the survival of their nation with a minimum of any damage to anyone (but this minimisation must never be such that it will lead to endangering themselves/their first intention). Didn't watch Munich - though Bana is always interesting, and the Croatian can pass for Israeli without me having to suspend disbelief - but I always thought the Israeli counter to the islamic murder of the Israeli Olympic athletes was brilliant: Israel definitely cares about its own and will look after its own. Both to make sure the enemy thinks twice before trying such a crime again - knowing the repercussions to expect - and to ensure that the victims and their families are given some real recompense. So who said revenge doesn't pay? Only cowards. Because in practice, one sees that it does pay. With increased security. With confidence in a tormented population that refuses to play the assigned role of the eternally helpless victim. With relative peace (compared to giving islamania a free run let alone encouraging it as christorule in India does). Indians who boo Israel and support the hostile islamaniac world surrounding it (including the bloodthirsty terrorist brigade among "palestinians") are basically telling Dharmics that Dharmics also have no right to protect themselves and ensure their survival against islamaniac terrorism either. I mean, if the lecture is good for Israel, it's good for Indians too right? Cowards deserve what they get. The only pity is they would take non-cowards down with them. Actually, the non-cowards are made the first sacrifice.
06-03-2010, 10:21 AM
Israel drags India into row
In an unusual step, Israel, which is facing global criticism for attacking an aid flotilla, has said violent incidents in countries like India and Pakistan in the past one month which claimed 500 lives have been 'ignored' while it is being condemned for its 'unmistakably defensive actions'. This is the first time that Israel has dragged India into a controversy. New Delhi condemned the Israeli attack saying there was no justification for indiscriminate use of force. http://www.indiatimes.com/photostory/6003951.cms
06-03-2010, 11:14 AM
Quote:New Delhi condemned the Israeli attack saying there was no justification for indiscriminate use of force. Indian should watch video and check why Israel retaliated. At least they don't have PM with bangles and hena on both hands. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9DiczGv4zg[/media] These peace keeper were beating heck out of Israeli forces and Moron Singh can't save its own citizens but happy to do yapping.
06-03-2010, 06:45 PM
From the perspective of USA, Israel is to ME Asia, what is Pakistan is to India. Pakistan and Israel both exist because of the benevolence of USA. They were both created by Europe to take care of its dirty business. While India can learn several lessons from Israel on how it conduct its foreign policies, we should not forget it was the second country in 21st century to be created based on religion. Indians cannot help from admiring how Israel takes care of its dirty business, but we need to remember that all the three religions from the region have caused havoc on this planet. Presently Judaism has just taken the back seat giving the reins to its younger siblings.
06-05-2010, 04:45 AM
[quote name='Swamy G' date='03 June 2010 - 06:53 PM' timestamp='1275570932' post='106704']
From the perspective of USA, Israel is to ME Asia, what is Pakistan is to India. Pakistan and Israel both exist because of the benevolence of USA. They were both created by Europe to take care of its dirty business. While India can learn several lessons from Israel on how it conduct its foreign policies, we should not forget it was the second country in 21st century to be created based on religion. Indians cannot help from admiring how Israel takes care of its dirty business, but we need to remember that all the three religions from the region have caused havoc on this planet. Presently Judaism has just taken the back seat giving the reins to its younger siblings. [/quote] Yes, better to have a mostly neutral opinion here. Some Jews are very friendly to Hindus, while others act really racist and nasty, so I can't say if they are good or bad. Plus as Hindus we don't have a stake in the "Holy Land" like the Christian fundamentalists who see the Jews as preserving Jesus holy land for them. Israel is basically a useful arms supplier for India and the Jewish lobby can be a key ally in Washington. Not sure what else Hindus and Jews have in common besides a common enemy of Islamic extremism. Perhaps after the Oil industry collapses in the world, India will get much closer to Israel as being nice to Gulf Petro states won't be needed. We want the enemies of Hinduism, Christian militants and Muslim militants fighting each other both in the world and in India. Remember earlier in the 20th century (esp. before 9/11), the Christians and Muslims ganged up against Hindus. Infact even after 9/11, Bush invited all the "religions" , he invited Christians, Jews, Muslims and even Sikhs but no Hindus. Why? Because Hindus are seen as "pagans" by the Abrahamic extremists, i.e. not "people of the book" and therefore don't worship the same "God". We want Jesus and Allah fighting each other in India (esp. places like Kerala and Andhra Pradesh)
06-06-2010, 12:34 AM
Quote:We want Jesus and Allah fighting each other in India (esp. places like Kerala and Andhra Pradesh)<img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
|
' /> ââ¬â collectively known as the 'specialists' ââ¬â were told to