USA And The Future Of The World

[Shambhu]

HIndus ask Obama to protect worls from mulla/killas. Good photos.
http://sarvesamachar.com/click_frameset.ph...-for-world.html

[Guest]

Abortion funds are back. Lets see which country will get maximum budget for abortion.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>PELOSI SAYS BIRTH CONTROL WILL HELP ECONOMY</b>  <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sun Jan 25 2009 22:13:43 ET
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi boldly defended a move to add birth control funding to the new economic "stimulus" package, claiming<b> "contraception will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government." </b>

Pelosi, the mother of 5 children and 6 grandchildren, who once said, "Nothing in my life will ever, ever compare to being a mom," seemed to imply <b>babies are somehow a burden on the treasury. </b>

The revelation came during an exchange Sunday morning on ABC's THIS WEEK.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus?

PELOSI: <b>Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children's health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those - one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.</b>

STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that?

PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think they want to follow China.

[shamu]

I think specific communities, like hispanics, will be targetted.

[Guest]

China's initiative was a permanent measure and it was damaging, is damaging and will be damaging. A lastin feature for a long time to come.

This initiative of the U.S. is not llike the Chinese one. It is more recommendatory and aiding in nature. This is purely related to the downturn in the economy and can easily be reversed and perhaps surely reversed when a Republican president succeeds Obama. As long as they have the ability to 'import' people thru legal and illegal immigration this sort of phenomenon is resorted to in capitalist economy.

Capitalist economy is based on 'capital' formation. A 'dhaarmic' economy has different basis and had shown great ability in bringing about great empires. It is worth discussing in a thread of its own.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-shamu+Jan 26 2009, 01:07 PM-->QUOTE(shamu @ Jan 26 2009, 01:07 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->I think specific communities, like hispanics, will be targetted.
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African American ,Hispanics and rednecks

[Guest]

Results of EJ solution on 'abstience' are there for all to see.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The U.S. teen birth rate is still the highest among industrialized countries.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The statistics for 2004, released Friday, revealed that <b>35.7 percent of all births were to unmarried women and that the percentage of unmarried mothers increased for all ages and races.</b> The increase translates to almost 1.5 million children being born to unwed mothers last year, up significantly – four percent – from 2003.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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[Guest]

Now Preisdent is with same story, not very encouraging.

But no restriction on illegals as state provide them free pre and post natal treatment.

And in Japan

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<b>Bad economy spurs egg and sperm sales</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->MASSACHUSETTS (WPRI) - These days, more men and women are trying to survive the bad economy by selling their sperm and eggs.

According to the Northeast Assisted Fertility Group , the number of women filling out applications to donate eggs has doubled. The number of women asking about donating their eggs has jumped by about 30 percent at some egg-donor agencies.
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[dhu]

Any indication they are making switch from primarily East Asian stolen ( ie Adopted ) children to South Asian adopted children?

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-dhu+Jan 26 2009, 11:48 PM-->QUOTE(dhu @ Jan 26 2009, 11:48 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Any indication they are making switch from primarily East Asian stolen ( ie Adopted ) children to South Asian adopted children?
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Already happening through Mother Teresa offices.

[Shambhu]

Obama has finally arrived! I have always maintained: elections be damned, you are not, repeat not, a US president till muslims burn your pictures. Faithful in Iran do the honours.
<!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle5510665.ece

Read the whole blog
http://voiceofhindus.blogspot.com/2009/01/...-threat-of.html

[Guest]

<b>Obama tells Arabic network US is 'not your enemy'</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Obama cited his Muslim background and relatives, practically a taboo issue during the U.S. presidential campaign, and said in the interview, which aired Tuesday, that one of his main tasks was to communicate to Muslims "that the Americans are not your enemy." <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[dhu]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->132. Memorandum From the Central Intelligence Agency to the 303 Committee/1/
/1/Source: Department of State, INR/IL Historical Files, Minutes of 303 Committee, 6/22/66. Secret; Eyes Only.
Washington, June 22, 1966.

SUBJECT
The Asia Foundation: Proposed Improvements in Funding Procedures

1. Summary

<b>The Asia Foundation (TAF), a Central Intelligence Agency proprietary, was established in 1954 to undertake cultural and educational activities on behalf of the United States Government in ways not open to official U.S. agencies. </b>Over the past twelve years TAF has accomplished its assigned mission with increasing effectiveness and has, in the process, become a widely-known institution, in Asia and the United States. TAF is now experiencing inquiries regarding its sources of funds and connections with the U.S. Government from the aggressive leftist publication, Ramparts./2/ It is conceivable that such inquiries will lead to a published revelation of TAF's CIA connection. In the present climate of national dissent and in the wake of recent critical press comment on CIA involvement with American universities, we feel a public allegation that CIA funds and controls TAF would be seized upon, with or without proof, and magnified beyond its actual significance to embarrass the Administration and U.S. national interests at home and abroad. Some immediate defensive and remedial measures are required [2-1/2 lines of source text not declassified].

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"The Asia Foundation was founded in 1954 and throughout the 1960s had an annual budget of about $8 million. This money was used to support Asian schools and libraries, give travel grants to Asians for international conferences, and in support of expanded Pacific trade. In 1967 it was revealed that they were receiving CIA funds. Victor Marchetti, once an executive assistant to the CIA's deputy director, is less delicate -- he says Asia Foundation was established by the CIA and until 1967 was heavily subsidized by them, even though some of their activities were legitimate.

<b>These days the National Endowment for Democracy model is preferred over those old, risky, secret CIA conduits, so in 1984 the Asia Foundation Act provided for funds from the Department of State. </b>In 1987 the Foundation received $10 million from State and another $3.7 million from AID, in addition to private support (88 percent of which was in the form of donated books) and matching Asian contributions. We wonder if Asia Foundation is really out of the U.S. intelligence loop after all. "
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[dhu]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It's imperative that Asia takes lead in the new economic paradigm
R Vaidyanathan

It will take decades to accept that the axis of global economy has shifted to Asia. The current global recession [or is it a deep depression] is being attempted to be cured by the conservatives and liberals in the USA and Europe in their own old-fashioned ways.

Allow the markets to recover with a gentle nudge from government, say the conservatives, while the liberals want strong government intervention of a Keynesian type. Obama says these differences are no more important -- it is more about the effectiveness of the government rather than size. This is Bollywood, sorry Hollywood dialogue without substance.

In the midst of all this gloom, a news report says that China has become the third-largest global economy, pushing Germany aside. Also, India and China are still expecting to grow at more than 6% this fiscal and may continue in the same way the next fiscal when the developed economies are struggling between negative growth and marginally positive numbers.

Let us go back in history. Angus Maddison (World economy -A millennial perspective; OECD; 2007) in his path-breaking study suggests that India (25%) and China (22%) had nearly 50% of the global GDP in 1700 AD and again in the 1820s. The great decline started after that, reaching 9% (China 5% and India 4%) in 1950.

This implies that after nearly 300 years, the tide is changing again and India and China are returning to where they were.

But this won't be linear transformation. The traditional Abrahamic civilisations -- as Samuel Huntington would have put it -- are on a decline. In the known human history, this is the first time non-Abrahamic traditions such as India/ China are going to gain dominance in the economic affairs of the world.

The basic flaw in the developmental model of the USA is that they have become a consuming economy. Their important economic indicator is the retail consumption figures. Household savings have become negligible, actually less than 2%. Not only that; US was a consuming economy and Asian Economies like China and India were saving economies.

India with its 35% savings rate is one of the largest savers in the world. The economies of Europe are also struggling due to their demography, wherein an increasing number of elderly is to be supported by the state.

Let us look at the demographic profile of Europe and the US in the next few decades, as per UN population projections. The average total fertility rate in 2000 was 1.57 for developed countries and 3.05 for developing countries. The rate for Europe was 1.4, Japan 1.3, USA 2.1, India 3.1 and China 1.72. It is felt a rate of 2.1 is an appropriate replacement rate, including some death of infants etc.

The situation could worsen over the next decade. Estimates suggest that in the next 50 years, USA will grow by 100 million people and Europe will shrink by as many. For instance, in another 40 years, the German population would be lesser by nearly 30%.

One-third of the population will be more than 65 and they will outnumber children by two to one. Italy's rate is 1.2, and in that Catholic country, in another 40 years, more than 40% will be above 65 years.

In Russia, two out of three pregnancies are terminated before birth, and Russian women average 2.5 to four abortions each, and their death rate is, believe me, 70% more than the birth rate. Putin warns that in 15 years, there will be 22 million less Russians, that is, a seventh of its current population. Japan is already facing the age crisis. Of course, the Whites in England are not having enough children, with London readying to have "ethnic majority" in a decade. One can go on.

The ageing of the developed countries, coupled with a desire of the labour class, including white collar workers, to work for lesser hours, is creating a catastrophe.  This is the nature of the crisis. The labour force will be extremely scarce and expensive in the developed world. The elderly will also demand better protection, and the state will spend all its money to become the new caring "child" for these old people.

Since societal norms (in terms of caring for the elderly by the off-springs, etc) have gone for a toss, the aged are the responsibility of the state, and this implies more taxes and a lesser amount available for other activities of the state. Hence, there is a massive crisis in "social security" funds in Europe and the US.

Hence, the pension funds and other funds were looking for larger return in emerging markets. In other words they have to earn for the elderly in the developed world and also attempt to reduce risk. Hence they were creating products which were "supposed" to reduce risk by diversification and also create institutions that provide one-stop solutions or what could be called womb-to-tomb solutions. Only, these are not solutions as much as problems.

But the emerging markets have a large pool of labour willing to work for longer hours for smaller wages. Globalisation and internet technology introduced the possibility of outsourcing and the rest is history. Now, there is widespread anger about globalisation, not among the emerging markets, but among developed markets. This could make protectionism more fashionable in the West and only delay their recovery.

If we look at the top ten economies (India is the twelfth based on nominal GDP in US dollars) of the world, we find that other than China, no country is expected to have a significant growth rate over a year from now. Actually, all of them, other than China, are in recession, in the sense of having two or more consecutive quarters of decline. The state as an agent of change or sustenance is not going to work since the required deficits are a very large percentage of their GDP. It is argued that a country like the USA has come out of recession in the late twenties and Europe has seen worst scenarios.

But that was during a time when there was no "war on terror." Whether one likes it or not, the thesis by Huntington has many strands of truth. There are three major strands of development, which are collinear with the economic crisis and the three have to be seen together rather than as distinct entities.

The economic downturn, demographic catastrophe -- what can be called Age Bomb -- and clash of civilisations are interlinked, and that is the uniqueness of the current crisis. The Age Bomb is going to work against White Europe and Israel and in favour of Islamic majority in Africa and the Middle East.

The developments in Swat province in Pakistan are ominous with the control of large areas by Taliban who are imposing their ideas of governance like closing down girl's schools, banning music and hanging the non-believers. The Afghanistan-Pakistan theatre of war will involve American and European forces for many years, maybe decades.

On the European side, we find that England is the Terror Central with almost all terrorist organisations of the world having headquarters in that country -- be it ETA rebels or Chechen or LTTE or LeT or Khalistanis or Mirpuri groups. Already, UK claims to monitor nearly 4,000 groups/individuals for terror related concerns.

This number will only go up. Actually, if you join the dots of terror acts in any part of the world, you will find Pakistan on one side and the UK on the other in terms of planning and plotting the same. The West needs to fight its war on terror maybe over several decades.

In that context, the growth rates of India and China are like dream rates. Both have a huge domestic market and both have ancient civilisations favouring families and trust. It is imperative that civilisations such as India (12th largest economy), China (third largest) and Japan (second largest) should come together to set up a new world order which is non-Abrahamic in nature and which is focused on conflict avoidance and conflict resolution when the clash of civilisation is taking place among the others.

The Indian, Chinese and Japanese civilisations do not have words like jihad or crusade or heathen or kafir or pagans, which are used to essentially communicate a world view of "My way or highway."

The economic axis has shifted to Asia and it is important that Asia seizes the initiative to steer the world towards a new economic order based on family values, savings and inter-temporal equity. The new economic architecture should be evolved in New Delhi, Tokyo and Beijing.

The writer is professor of finance and control, Indian Institute of Management - Bangalore. Views are personal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Capt M Kumar]

"Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and we, I believe, continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," Holder said in his speech at Justice Department on the occasion of Black History Month.

"Though race-related issues continue to occupy a significant portion of our political discussion, and though there remain many unresolved racial issues in this nation, we -- average Americans -- simply do not talk enough with each other about things racial," he said.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/157510/America...ey-general.html

[acharya]

Mail.ru, Russia
The U.S. Monopoly Is Over
By Vladimir Zhirinovsky
As a solution to the economic crisis, America needs to form a strategic union with Russia.
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Obama must understand that the U.S. monopoly is over. America cannot be the only dominant power; the economy of this country cannot be held up as the standard, and the American dollar cannot be the tool of American policy. America does not have its own manufacturing industry. Without the disposal of a few extra dollars, it is impossible to improve the U.S. economy. And this effortlessly earned currency can be disposed of through war. In that sense, Оbama is a war President. The fate of Gorbachev awaits Obama., and as did Gorbachev, Obama will resign in the year 2010 or 2011 in the midst of waves of protests in America: “Promised but did not deliver!”<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Оbama will return to hard anti-Russian rhetoric. They will criticize us in the realms of energy, democracy and human rights. They want to return to the Yeltsin times, and they want us to refuse a firm regime. It is in fact necessary for us to strengthen our regime and our foreign policies even more.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Guest]

If you get a chance, watch today's Glen Back programme on "If US economy collapse in 2014" War Game.
Very scary and interesting at the same time.

Here is video. Watch it
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[Guest]

<b>US has begun to capitulate</b>

[Pandyan]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Feb 21 2009, 11:01 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Feb 21 2009, 11:01 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you get a chance, watch today's Glen Back programme on "If US economy collapse in 2014" War Game.
Very scary and interesting at the same time.

Here is video. Watch it
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Buy Liberty Dollars. USD is screwed. We are in for a depression for the whole world.

[Guest]

Just now while driving back home, I was listening to talk on radio, caller was a Cop, he was predicting civil unrest extra, advising people should keep five days food in home. It can help during earthquake and civil unrest. I was surprised my liberal area is real mad with stimulus package and Tuesday, BO will announce tax hike for so-called "Rich" above 80K or 250K family and business. This is very wrong time to increase tax, infact they should reduce Capital tax. This is recipe to Carter Days.

Keep five days food can at home all the time. I live in Earthquake zone, we always have emergency stock at home in any case.

It will be Global depression.