Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan 3

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In a taped conversation between then General Pervez Musharraf and Muhammad Aziz Khan, his chief of general staff, which India released in 1999, Aziz said that the army had the jihadis by their " tooti " (their privates).
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2009/01/...n-in-peril.html

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Anyway, read that article.

So I think time will soon come that the Pak Govt (such as it is) [PGSAII] asks covertly for US intervention to save it from the advancing Taliban, while officially denying any such request (and denying vehemently too!).

After US is done, PGSAII hopes to reap the benefits of becoming relatively Taliban-free for a short time, time enough for a systematic flight to the real Islamic Paradise: Eurabia. Flight is needed because PGSAII knows that the Taliban will come for their necks as soon as feasible.

The people of Pakistan will have to fend for themselves, and most of them will end up supporting the Taliban. The rest of them will end up dead, courtesy Taliban.

The war in Iraq is already winding down. Look for the US to make lots and lots of Predator drones and TOW missiles. Buy Raytheon stock!!

Pakistani people will migrate into Sindh: that is what I think.

ramana · 01-29-2009, 05:16 AM

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf

The above is the testimony of Ashley Tellis today to the US Senate Homeland Security Committee on LeT's global role. It is a good articulation of LeT's past and future trends.

01-31-2009, 11:22 AM

Gurus

Is there a place where i can watch the whole interview ? I only see 4 parts on youtube. This is interview of Gen Jamshed Gulzar Kiyani.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_WAtLcu5s

TIA.

Naresh · 01-31-2009, 07:19 PM

[center]Caste-ism is Alive, Kicking, Rampant and Rife in the Egalitarian Religion of Peace in the Land of the Pure![/center]

Fatima to run for BBâs seat in coming polls Saturday, 31 Jan, LARKANA: Sindh National Front chief Mumtaz Ali Bhutto said on Friday that Fatima Bhutto would run for NA-207 in the next general elections. The seat was won by Benazir Bhutto in all elections between 1988 and 1997. It is now being held by Faryal Talpur, President Zardariâs sister. Talking to journalists in Mirpur Bhutto, Mumtaz said that Zulfikar Junior, Fatima Bhutto and Sassui Bhutto were the real political heirs of Zulfikar Ali Bhuttoâs family âas Zardaris cannot become Bhuttos just by changing their caste.â He hinted at early merger of the SNF and the Pakistan Peopleâs Party-SB, saying talks on the issue had entered final stages. A new chapter on struggle with peopleâs support would be written with the merger of two parties, he said. Change would not be brought about without peopleâs support, they said. (Posted @ 10:53 PST)

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Naresh · 01-31-2009, 09:51 PM

Mid-Year Economic Review July-December: MoF estimates GDP growth at around 3.7% in 2008-09

QUOTEISLAMABAD : The Ministry of Finance said on Friday that better growth prospects in the agriculture and services sector will keep up the hope of real GDP growth at around 3.7 percent in 2008-09.

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Naresh · 02-02-2009, 04:30 AM

IMF review mission shifts venue

QUOTEKARACHI â The International Monetary Fund mission is not coming to Pakistan due to security reasons and the fund would conduct the review of the economic performance of the country in Dubai.

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Naresh · 02-02-2009, 05:48 PM

FO cancels cricketersâ tour to India

ISLAMABAD : The Foreign Office cancelled on Monday the tour of five Pakistani cricketers to India.

According to details, five cricketers, who have been asked not to travel to India, include Yasir Hameed, Danish Kaneria, Asim Kamal, Mohammad Hafiz and Yasir Arafat. These players had to go to India to participate in the IPL auction ceremony. The Ministry of Sports had already given them permission to visit India.

The three-point advisory issued from the foreign ministry hints at strained Indo-Pak relations in the wake of Mumbai attacks. It says that Indian cricket team refused to visit Pakistan and that India has not given security guarantee to Pakistani players.

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Naresh · 02-02-2009, 09:42 PM

No Pakistani player in IPL, confirms Modi

NEW DELHI : Indian Premier League chairman Lalit Modi has confirmed that no Pakistan player would participate in the second edition of the Indian Premier League.

Modi also said they will not put any Pakistani player up for auction for the next edition of the twenty20 league which starts from April this year.

Earlier, Pakistan Cricket Board has advised their players not to travel to India as the situation is not conducive for traveling amidst tension between the neighbouring nations.

"We have been informed by the foreign ministry today that the situation is not conducive for Pakistan cricketers to travel to India," Sports Minister Aftab Jilani said on Monday.

On Saturday the sports minister had sent its recommendations on a note moved by the PCB to the President's Secretariat for the final no objection certificate.

The PCB had moved the note to the Ministry seeking guidance after the IPL authorities asked it to confirm if Pakistani players were allowed by their government to take part in the IPL.

The IPL authorities had made it clear that if Pakistani players were stopped by their government from playing in the Twenty20 tournament they would not be paid anything but if they couldn't take part in the league because of Indian government's directive they would be fully compensated.

Five Pakistan cricketers--Yasir Hameed, Yasir Arafat, Asim Kamal, Danish Kaneria and Mohammad Hafeez--were due to appear in the IPL player auction at the Indian state of Goa on February 10.

The twenty20 extravaganza is starting from April 10 this year and top players from almost all Test playing nations are expected to participate.

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Naresh · 02-02-2009, 10:38 PM

Cross-border trade to remain suspended : Indian minister Monday, 02 Feb, SHIMLA : Trade relations with Pakistan will remain in suspension while investigations regarding the Mumbai attacks continue in Pakistan, Indian Minister of State for Commerce, Industry and Power Jairam Ramesh Sunday. âTrade improving initiatives cannot be resumed till the conspirators of Mumbai terror attacks are brought to justice,â the Hindu newspaper quoted Ramesh as saying. Ramesh also told reporters that his own tour of Pakistan scheduled for later this year had also been put on hold for the same reason. âEarlier, India was planning to export tea to Pakistan through the Waga border crossing. After the Mumbai attacks, the plans were put on hold. The government is now exploring the Afghanistan and Iran markets,â he said. (Psoted @ 17:55 PST)

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Naresh · 02-02-2009, 10:47 PM

Obama worried about Afghanistan, not Kashmir

QUOTEWASHINGTON, Feb 1 : Richrd Holbrooke, US President Barack Obamaâs special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, arrives in Islamabad on Feb 9 for exploratory talks with Pakistani leaders.

And even before his schedule was announced, the State Department made it obvious that Ambassador Holbrooke had a single-point agenda : winning the war in Afghanistan and Fata. He would not deal with other regional issues, certainly not occupied Kashmir.

âKashmir was not going to be a part of Ambassador Holbrookeâs portfolio. Weâve made that very clear,â said State Department spokesman Robert Wood when asked if Mr Holbrooke would also help India and Pakistan resolve the Kashmir dispute.

The State Department also reminded Pakistan that while the US was not willing to play any mediatory role in resolving the Kashmir dispute, it did believe that India had a major role in Afghanistan and if Mr Holbrooke ever had to consult India, those consultations would be about Afghanistan.

âIndia has a lot of interests in Afghanistan. Ambassador Holbrooke, other officials will be consulting with India,â the spokesman said.

QUOTEObama officials, however, say their new strategy will be âpragmatic, rather than idealâ. They say they know that fixing Afghanistan and Pakistan is going to be harder than fixing Iraq, and the penalties for failure are greater.

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Naresh · 02-03-2009, 04:40 AM

Rs23.5b embezzlement in Defence Ministry

ISLAMABAD - Public Accounts Committee (PAC) of the National Assembly has exposed Rs 23.5 billion irregularities in Defence Ministry in the face of non-payment of PTV license fee, constructions of Troops Family Welfare Centre and Mangla Garrison, and other issues.

Audit Report 2005-06 with 40 objection paras of Defence Ministry was presented in the PAC meeting held at Parliament House on Monday. Leader of Opposition in the National Assembly and Chairman PAC Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan presided over the meeting.

The PAC revealed that Pakistan Army personnel had not been paying PTV license fee, Rs 25 per month in electricity bill, since the time of its implementation. It directed authorities concerned to collect PTV license fee from Pakistan Army personnel right from January 01, 2009.

Ch Nisar said it was wastage of public money and the looted amount would be recovered, adding both Army personnel and civilians should follow the rules and regulations for the dignity of the country.

Objection paras, worth Rs 116.8 million, were discussed in the meeting while remaining paras would be discussed today (Tuesday). There are 40 objection paras of Audit Report 2005-06 and the PAC Chairman has sought reports of most of the paras within one month. The Audit official told the meeting that Wapda was not recovering PTV license fee Rs 25 in the electricity bill from military men.

Defence Secretary Lt Gen (Retd) Syed Athar Ali told the meeting that Pak Army personnel had not been paying PTV license fee but now from January 01, 2009 onward they would pay the fee. He said that the previous dues should be written off. He further said that there was a 50 per cent discount in power tariff for Pakistan Army personnel.

Riaz Hussain Pirzada said that PTV license fee should be levied on military officers and not on Jawans. Yasmeen Rehman said it was very serious negligence and law should be equal for all in the country. Hamid Yar Hiraj said that according to Constitution all citizen had equal right and law should be same for all.

The Chairman PAC said that proposals should be presented within a month to amend the law if it was needed. He was of the view that some elements in Pakistan Army were tarnishing its image.

Auditor General Rana Tanvir Ali Agha proposed to hold a separate meeting with Defence Ministry in that regard to take up this issue. He said that a total of Rs 1.3 million dues were payable under the head of PTV license fee from military and suggested to write it off.

About another objection para, the Auditor told that Defence Ministry wasted Rs 1.497 million in unauthorised expenditure on the construction of Troops Family Welfare Centre out of defence budget. He said that rules and regulations were violated in the construction of Mangla Garrison that was divided into two sections and due to this Pakistan Army had to bear financial loss.

The committee also sought explanation from Defence Ministry over non-recovering of dues worth of Rs 3 million from contractor of Army Garrison Chonia and defaulters of Mangla Garrison within two weeks.

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Naresh · 02-03-2009, 06:16 PM

Debt seen rising by Rs2trn this year

QUOTEISLAMABAD, Feb 2 : Pakistanâs public debt is expected to go up by over Rs2 trillion by the end of 2008-09, the highest ever increase in a single year.

The public debt is estimated to rise by 34 per cent to Rs7,931 billion by June 30 from Rs5,901 billion in 2007-08 because of massive depreciation in the value of the rupee and external loans obtained for budgeting the balance of payments.

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**acharya** · 02-04-2009, 03:38 AM

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-new...ns-of-grandeur/


Delusions of grandeur
By R.A. KHAN submitted 1 day 4 hours ago

Judging from the confrontational attitude, harsh rhetoric, reckless criticism and the vindictive mindset, it appears that the bigwigs of the Indian Establishment are less interested in uncovering the facts and more inclined towards using the Mumbai tragedy to bully and browbeat Pakistan and tarnish its image at the international level.
To begin with, India promptly dropped the ongoing composite dialogue, threatened to launch surgical strikes and use other punitive measures to discipline Pakistan. Its leaders accuse Pakistan of not fulfilling its commitments, not acting on the dossier, issuing flat denials and using terrorism as an instrument of state policy. India has no extradition treaty with Pakistan, yet it insists that the November suspects be handed over to it.
Its print and electronic media is fervently engaged in whipping up war hysteria. It continues to ignore Pakistan's standing offer of joint investigation for fear that it may reveal loopholes. Bharat knows that her much trumpeted 'evidence' is nothing more than shoddy and superficial 'information'. It is ready to snap all business, transport and tourist ties should Pakistan fail to cooperate.
Raj Thackeray's goons are already busy burning CD's of Pakistani artists, banning sale of books by Pakistani authors and sending death threats to Pakistan's envoy. It has stepped up its propaganda campaign to malign Pakistan and push the US into declaring it a terrorist state. The multi-pronged exercise is, in fact, meant to impress upon Pakistan that India is a regional supremo and the former must kow-tow to it.
India's supercilious attitude is not new. The Quaid-i-Azam, for instance, had discovered this mean streak decades ago. In an answer to a question by a Swiss journalist whether there was any hope of Pakistan and India coming to a peaceful settlement of disputes and differences on very vital and important matters, he said: "Yes, provided the Indian government will shed the superiority complex and will deal with Pakistan on an equal footing and fully appreciate the realities." Four months earlier in an interview to Duncan Hooper, Correspondent of Reuter, the Quaid had said: "We are always ready to come to an understanding or enter into agreements with Hindustan as two independent, equal, sovereign States. But all this propaganda and agitation, all the threats that are held out by prominent Congress speakers are not likely to restore goodwill and friendly relations between the two states."

The Quaid's observations on India's pretentious attitude and unsavoury conduct are as fresh and relevant today as they were some sixty years ago. The aforesaid ills have multiplied since the Indo-US nuclear deal, the pampering and support of the US neo-cons and its intimate nexus with Israel and the Zionist lobby. This heady concoction has given a further boost to her hegemonic ambitions and a comic dimension to her irrepressible desire to play the regional policeman.
The Mumbai affair appears to have furnished India with yet another 'unique opportunity' to settle old scores. The exaggerated hullabaloo following the event has a definite purpose-namely, to humiliate Pakistan and bring her down a peg or two. Or bulldoze her into becoming a 'client-state' like Bhutan or Nepal. What else can Pakistan expects from a Congress government which "impelled by a jingoistic illusion," strove even in 1947 to put "an end to the existence of Pakistan by what they thought would be a walk over or mere police action. Patel, regarded a strong man of India, even went to the length of declaring on one occasion that if India were so minded she could sweep up to Peshawar. When this was seen to be impossible, Hindu militarism created the myth of military danger from Pakistan and battened itself on it" (Nirad C Chaudhri's book titled Continent of Circe).
Fifteen years later, Hindu jingoism again drove India into open conflict with China. Everyone knows how the skirmish ended. Jingoism can indeed play havoc and unleash the dogs of war. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has not - yet - succumbed to the shrieks of the Congress hawks or to the clamour of the xenophobic rabble-rousers of the Bharatiya Janata Party but has not desisted from launching a psychological and diplomatic offensive against Pakistan. The matter is clear-cut: both countries should try and get to the bottom of the case and punish those involved in the carnage.
The government of Pakistan is totally focused on the issue. A number of suspects from the Lashkar-e-Taiba have been rounded up. The probe has been put on the 'fast track'. A team of experts has been constituted to conduct a transparent and legally tenable inquiry. Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani has assured that the perpetrators would be brought to justice. India has no reasons to doubt Pakistan's intention or describe the inquiry as 'eyewash'.

David Miliband, the British foreign secretary, on a recent visit categorically stated that the State of Pakistan was not involved in the terrorist attack. He praised Pakistan's resolve never to allow the use of its territory against any country. Miliband also lauded Pakistan's balanced and gentlemanly response in contrast to India's crude emotional outbursts. The foreign diplomats briefed recently were entirely satisfied with the rate of progress and of the considered view that the two countries should jointly investigate the Mumbai attacks. What else does India want? If it is really keen on rooting out terrorism, it must work in tandem with Pakistan.
To begin with, it must resolve the Kashmir issue which has hung fire for the last six decades. India has always dodged the issue. It wants Pakistan to forget Kashmir and hates to see it referred to as a disputed territory. No wonder its leaderships was cut to the quick when David Miliband stated that an early resolution of the Kashmir dispute was imperative as it was the root cause of terrorism.
India's frenzied reaction could be gauged from the fact that Manmohan Singh, the Indian premier, instantly dashed off a letter of protest to Mr Gordon Brown, the British prime minister. No matter what its hang-ups, Bharat must recognise what the rest of the world does - namely, that Kashmir is disputed territory. Election gimmickry, extravagant claims, Mumbai melodrama and political abracadabra will not extinguish the mighty flame that is Kashmir.
It is time India shed its delusions of grandeur, rid itself of the Ashoka syndrome, reined in its vaulting ambitions and curbed its ingrained propensity for intransigence. Pakistan is seriously engaged in ferreting out the truth. It has offered India unreserved cooperation but the latter rejects every overture of harmony and goodwill. Sixty days have passed since the Mumbai carnage but India has shown no flexibility in its stance. On the contrary, it is building pressure and doing its utmost to paint Pakistan as an irresponsible state. India must clearly understand that its Machiavellian stratagems like economic blockade, global isolation, regional encirclement and covert operations will not work and hurl it once again in the Slough of Despond.
Fence mending is the need of the hour. India should rise above its legacy of hostility and distrust, set aside its pathological prejudices, rid itself of false pride and clearly demonstrate its willingness to settle disputes through dialogue and discussion. Pakistan is a state with nuclear capability and possesses vital geo-strategic importance. Perpetual sabre-rattling and hawkishness could lead to a clash of arms and even to a clash of apocalyptic proportions. India must heed the tocsin and dump the hubris that holds reason prisoner. Pakistan loves peace; but not peace at any price. In case war is thrust upon it, it shall, of course, adhere to Henry V's classic advice:
"But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of a tiger,
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage."
The writer is an ex-professor, Government College, Lahore
E-mail: rashidahmedkhan00@yahoo.com

Naresh · 02-05-2009, 06:27 PM

KANGAYAM R. RANGASWAMY â The Terroristani pretending to be an Indian :

Joining hands to combat extremism (II)

WE can do no better than go through the insightful analysis of a respected academic like Prof Anwar Syed to get at a factual and unbiased view even if the subject happens to be something terrifying like âterrorismâ (âTerrorism withinâ, Feb 1).

Because of the very nature of the subject some gray areas are present which may require further analysis.

âThe war on terrorâ is a leftover nomenclature from the Bush era which the new, scholarly President Obama will give up soon and coin a new phrase palatable to people around the world.

Prof Syed makes reference to the question of replacement of âofficersâ in the Pakistan armed forces âwho might be ambivalent about their mission of eradicating the militantsâ, which is a bone of contention with the US commanders in the region.

Armies the world over deal with any such situation where a soldier or officer disobeys a lawful order by simply invoking the mechanism of âcourt martialâ.

Even the generals are not exempt from this disciplinary procedure. We have, however, not heard of a single case where any uniformed person has been disciplined in this manner in Pakistan. This gives rise to suspicions that the Army may be glossing over such infractions for reasons of their own.

US Vice President Joe Biden is keen on pushing through his proposal to provide development aid, other than military aid, to Pakistan to âreduce the sense of deprivationâ and poverty levels in areas where militants abound.

This is an area of controversy. Let us say that with American or our own money we do build bridges, roads and schools in a region like Swat, the Talibanised militants swarming in the region will surely like to destroy them as fast as they are built.

It stands to reason, therefore, that militancy has to be completely destroyed before development activities can take place.

Again, there is the gnawing question: Will terrorists ever give up their profession? It is like mounting a tiger. One doesnât know how to dismount. However, let us closely watch Saudi Arabiaâs well-thought-out programme for rehabilitating âtrroristsâ in society.

KANGAYAM R. RANGASWAMY
United States

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Naresh · 02-05-2009, 10:40 PM

24 killed, over 30 injured in DG Khan blast

DG KHAN : Death toll has climbed to 24 while over 30 others were wounded in a bomb explosion that ripped through a mourners procession in Muslim Town here, IG Punjab confirmed Thursday.

Talking to Geo News, IG Punjab Shaukat Javed said the explosion left no crater on the ground indicating the blast could be a suicide attack.

The blast ripped through a mournersâ procession in Muslim Town outside Johar Ali Imam Bargah.

Rescue teams arrived at the scene immediate after the explosion and shifted the dead and injured to the district headquarter hospital where many are said to be in critical condition.

The explosion, which shattered the windowpanes of the nearby buildings, enraged the participants of the procession and they chanting slogans against the government.

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Naresh · 02-06-2009, 05:12 AM

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02-06-2009, 10:52 AM

This is Shia -Sunni lovefest.

02-06-2009, 10:58 AM

Curtail Army chiefâs powers: Hameed GulQUOTERAWALPINDI: The Pakistan Ex-Servicemen Association (PESA) on Sunday unanimously adopted a resolution in the Defence of Pakistan conference, urging the government to register all cases, including the imposition of emergency, the Lal Masjid and the murder of Nawab Akbar Bugti against General (retd) Musharraf and bring him to justice.

Lt Gen (retd) Hameed Gul while presenting the resolution said that all the deposed judges should be reinstated and the judiciary should be restored to its November 2, 2007 position. He also announced full support of ex-servicemen to the lawyersâ long march.

Those who participated in the conference included Lt Gen (retd) Asad Durrani, Gen (retd) Mirza Aslam Beg, PML-Nâs Khawaja Asif, Ahsan Iqbal, JI chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Justice (retd) Saeeduz Zaman Siddiqui, Justice (retd) Wajihuddin Ahmed, President High Court Bar Association Sardar Asmat Ullah, representatives of civil society, lawyers and others.

Hameed Gul stressed the need for introducing certain changes in the Army set-up and a commission having representation of ex-servicemen and other departments. He said the US should stop drone attacks as these were hitting the nation hard. If the US does not stop these attacks, the drones should be shot down, he added.

He said all the missing persons should be recovered as soon as possible and Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan should be allowed to lead a normal life. He said the government should make strong internal policies to deal with the economic crises or it would become difficult to defend the country.

He said the Kashmir movement should be reinvigorated to win the right of self-determination for the Kashmiris.He said the operation in the NWFP and Balochistan should immediately be ceased and the Army should be called back. The problem over there should be solved through parliament. âWe need unity at this time as we have some serious threats and our enemies are trying to destabilize us so that they may get their ugly goals,â he said and added that parliament should be made strong to grapple with the national and international threats.

He said the natural resources of Europe and the US would come to an end in 50 years therefore, the US was trying to capture the natural resources of Central Asia by using India. He said the US had also designs to obstruct the economic growth of China.

Lt Gen (retd) Hameed Gul said the Army chief had unlimited powers, which needed to be curtailed. Even the other forces chiefs were kept in the dark regarding important decisions and the Kargil example could be quoted in this regard. He urged a strong coordination among the services chiefs on matters of national interest.

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Qazi Hussain Ahmed strongly criticized the poor policies adopted by the previous dictatorial regime. General (retd) Mirza Aslam Baig said, âWe have been thinking that the new government in the US would be helpful for us but Barack Obama has declared Pakistan as a battlefield. Israel and India can create many problems for Pakistan and thatâs why there is a need to get united and work for the country.â
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02-06-2009, 11:04 AM

Obama policy

- responsible withdrawal from Iraq within sixteen months
- keep troops only to fight remnants of alQaeda in Iraq, no permanent bases
- close Guantanamo
- stop torture with no exception, brutality increases terrorism
- speak to an Islamic forum within 100 days of presidency
- increase troops in Afghanistan, increase aid to Afghanistan and Pakistan
- aid increase in proportion to performance
- finish the fight with alQaeda and Taliban
- attack high value target such as osama bin laden in Pakistan if Pakistan unable or unwilling to

http://www.newsweek.com/id/182650
Obamaâs Vietnam

The analogy isn't exact. But the war in Afghanistan is starting to look disturbingly familiar.
John Barry and Evan Thomas
NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Feb 9, 2009

02-06-2009, 11:11 AM

Senators declared assets depict majority dirty richQUOTEFederal Minister Israrullah Zehri, who faced criticism for terming the act of burying alive of three girls in Balochistan a tribal tradition, is the richest Senator, the returns showed. He owns around 50,000 acres of agricultural lands worth several billions of rupees, mostly in Balochistan.............

These people are animals.

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