Progressive Duplicity and moral policing

02-12-2009, 03:08 AM

QUOTE(rajesh_g @ Feb 9 2009, 08:54 PM)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTENisha Susan, a features writer with a magazine, started this blog with the idea that it could be a forum where people could express their concern and views â particulary the disgust they feel over the recent turn of events. âOn Thursday, I had an impulse that we should do something. I planned this campaign and posted it on the blog. The next morning, there were more than 600 posts and now there are over 1,500 posts from all over the world, including small towns, the US, Singapore and of course, all Indian metros. There are people from all age groups, six-year-olds to senior citizens and a lot of men too,â said Nisha. 
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Nisha Susan's is a scribe for Tehelka? Surprise Surprise!!
Now knowing that this is a Tehelka enterprise, it would be wise to audit as to how many pink-chaddis they received and how many they sent to Muthalik.

Maybe that Muthalik could hold a big event and distribute all those pink chaddis amongst poor. Win win for all.

~~Pandyan~~ · 02-12-2009, 03:16 AM

Getting groped by (most likely predatory muslim males) seems to be preferred by these stupid and disgusting sluts. Apparently that is synonymous with "forward thinking" and "modernism". Hope they get some roofies in their drinks.

02-12-2009, 03:22 AM

Actress' wardrobe causes worry for TN legislators
QUOTEPresident PMK, Mani said, "Will anyone let his daughter, mother or sister wear such clothes, its anti Tamil."

from barbarindian blog
Ayiyayoo... it's not some "hindu(tva)" organization but the very 'progressive' PMK (DMK/UPA ally) itself is outraged at some clothes worn by actress.
Memo to Nisha Susan: can some chaddis be sent to this Mani from PMK?

02-12-2009, 03:34 AM

Another oldie that didn't make it to Hon Renuka Choudhary's desk, probabibly because this hostel is run by the DMK govt her ally.

Talk about big brother abusing basic privacy rights of women.
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QUOTESOUTHERN NEWS - TAMIL NADU Mar 25, 2006

'Menstrual register' in hostel raises eyebrows
Friday March 24 2006 10:05 IST
MADURAI: The log book of the Government Adi Dravida students welfare hostel in Sholavandan in Madurai district, has every routine detail â from purchase of rice and pulses to electricity charges.

But what has caused a flutter is the maintenance of an exclusive register to 'monitor' the menstrual cycle of the residents at the hostel!

This disgusting practice has already kicked off a debate, with women activists calling it 'an intrusion of privacy' and gross violation of rights. This practice in the hostel has been going on for quite some time now.

The hostel, functioning out of a ramshackle rented building with 58 inmates, including 24 Dalit girls and 34 non-Dalits - as against the sanctioned strength of 42 Dalits and 12 Backward Class and three other community students - is 'home' to girl students from standards VI to XII.

It has been maintaining the register with details like months and dates of the menstrual cycle of girls who had attained puberty.

Irregular menstrual cycles invite raised eyebrows and frowns from those running the hostel. When this website's newspaper reporter gained entry into the hostel and interacted with students, they revealed that the cook always kept an eye on them and questioned the students if they menstruated a day or two late.

"Doubting our morality, she uses abusive language when the menstruation gets delayed," said a senior student.

The girls inform the cook who gives them the register in which they enter the details like month, date and time with signatures.

The prudish hostel warden Selvarani, for whom 'morality of the girls' is prime, examines the register religiously every day.

When asked about the practice, a middle school student said, "Yes akka, I write down the details against each column and then go to the riverside to take a head bath.''

As the hostel does not have a bathroom, these girls claim that they are forced to go the river bank even after dusk to take a bath on the first day of menstruation. They also have to answer to nature's call in the open air. They also alleged that due to this loathsome practice, a few students left the hostel last year.

Condemning the sordid practice, M Jeeva, Regional Convenor, Tamil Nadu Child Rights Protection Network, said, "The poor parents of these girls want them to be educated. But they are subjected to this unethical practice, which is a gross violation of child rights."

This apart, the hostel lacks basic amenities and infrastructure. Moreover, the students say they are forced to do all household work right from carrying loads of vegetables from the Sholavandan bus stand to cleaning the warden's toilet.

Nutritious food was alien to them. However, warden Selvarani, who denied that the students were given a non-nutritious diet, took pride in maintaining a separate register to monitor the menstrual cycle of the girls.

"It is a clear example of maintaining discipline in hostel," she said, waving the register at this website's newspaper reporter.

02-12-2009, 03:40 AM

A boy can loose one year of college for shaking hands with girl. No, not in some 'hindu tablibani state' but in our good old progressive Tamil Nadu run by Manmohan Singh's ally. I can only imagine this teenager spending the year in a pub or bar which must make Renuka proud.

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QUOTENow for a rather funny report [video] on some colleges from TN:
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Â Â The outskirts of Chennai are home to scores of engineering colleges where discipline it appears is an obsession - sometimes even bordering on the ridiculous. Some rules even bar students from talking to the opposite sex. What we found was not only shocking, but disturbing: Metal barricades had been put up in buses to ensure that girls sat away from boys. While girls sat in the front rows, boys sat behind them. We also found exclusive dining areas for members of the two sexes. Interestingly the 'Non-Veg' section was synonymous with the 'Gents only' areas. [...] In yet another college it seemed things were getting from bad to worse - here we even found staircases clearly labelled 'Gents only', and 'Ladies only'. When we asked college authorities for an explanation, the Director said the rules were "only for for convenience".

Think this is not so serious? Well, think again.
QUOTEÂ Â [...] but for one teenager in an engineering college, who had to forgo a year for shaking hands with a girl, these are more than just an eccentric rule. He recalls the 'crime': "I just shook hands with a girl. It was her birthday and I wished her. A bus driver saw it and complained to the director. They harassed me by asking many questions. I got suspended for one and a half months. My attendance obviously suffered, and they dropped me for a year. They were harassing my parents. I have seen my mom cry only twice before. This was third time."

These people are going too far to prevent "contamination". But for these college going boys and girls, they are being deprived of a very necessary part of the process of growing up, at a formative age, when interacting with the other sex helps build healthy attitude towards sex and gender related issues
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02-12-2009, 03:53 AM

Let's walk back in time one more time..

event: India's first IPL T20 (April/May '08)

issue: cheerleaders were accused of wearing clothes not 'Bharatiya' enough.

Who has a problem and play moral police:

CPI leader D Raja ...wanted to ban cricket itself <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' />
Pakistani cricketer Shahid Afridi
Mh Dy CM RR Patil (Cong or NCP)
the list of these secular moral police is list, others can add.

But you know who stood up to this Secular Talibs:
Narendra Modi <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lmaosmiley.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lmaosmiley.gif' />
QUOTE"If there are dancers on stage for so many Bollywood stage shows, why should there be any objection to cheerleaders. We call them cheerleaders and others call them dancers".

02-12-2009, 04:01 AM

Maharashtra govt has in recent years banned bar-girls when the High Court of the same state has ruled otherwise.
Who made RR Patil the moral high priest of Maharashtra and how come Renuka Choudhary as Minister for Women's affairs not done anything for these displaced bar workers?
QUOTERather ironically, just around the time when the DCM's announcement regarding the dance bar ban was making headlines, the Nagpur Bench of the Bombay High Court gave a ruling on the issue of obscenity in dance bars. While according to the Home Minister the dances in bars are obscene and have a morally corrupting influence on society, the High Court held that dances in bars do not come within the ambit of S.294 of the IPC. 
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02-12-2009, 04:13 AM

Folks, have posted a series of post to highlight the hypocrisy of these so called 'progressive' leaders. The record shows that while in power they resort to the same common denominator (or even worse) which they accuse their rivals of.
It's sad that mainstream media holds one set standards in one instance if it's a UPA ruled state versus one ruled by non UPA state. It's analogous to life of riot victim is high in Gujarat versus say Maharastra or Kerala or Bengal.

This thread is about exposing such duplicity. This thread is not about merits or demerits of girl/boy friendship or allow/ban cheerleaders/bar-girls - do it else where.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 02-12-2009, 09:41 AM by Husky.)

Bharatavarsha, if you read this, read particularly the second article that follows. Sandhya says something better than I could have said it.

1. http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...196&SKIN=B
QUOTEOngoing Sexual Jihad - One more Hindu girl ended her life
11/02/2009 14:46:09Â HK

Mangalore: When the pseudo feminists and a section of media decries about the need and importance of Valentineâs day and Pub culture in Indian Society, Hindu girls are ending their life due to rape and torture by Jihadi Romeos.

16 year old Aswini Kulal is the recent victim of Sexual Jihad against Kafirs. Aswini Kulal who was raped by Abdul Salam ended her life on a piece of rope. Police arrested 26 year old Abdul Salam in connection with the suicide of this School girl.

Aswini was lured by Abdul Salam a typical Jihadi Romeo and raped her by taking her into his hideout in a hill top near Venoor.Â Â

Three school girls consumed poison and ended their life in Alappuzha, Those responsible in that case were also Muslim youth. National Medias which were in Mangalore before time during pub attack is no where in scene now in Mangalore to report the sad plight of this girl. Minister Renuka Choudhary who sprouted up as the saviour of liberal womenâs right since two weeks back too is mum about th eongoing sexual Jihad in the country.

The surge of Jihadi Romeos in Mangalore and near by areas is not isolated incidents (As our Secular Pandits wish to believe) but bitter truth. We urge the secular parents once again to enlighten their daughters about these monsters lurking behind. Lofty ideals of secularism will not help to soothe the grief of your daughter who find solace in a piece of rope or a spoon of poison. 

2. Meanwhile Minister NukeRay Choudhary (a crypto herself, in all likelihood) is busy encouraging christoism ('psecularism') in order to provide more Hindu victims for the jihadists:

http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayAr...spx?id=382
QUOTEâPub Bharoâ: Be my ValentineÂ Â Â
Sandhya Jain
09 Feb 2009

No matter how liberal a countryâs ethos, no matter how depraved and debauched its social reality, no polity in the world will permit a minister or public servant to call for a âPub Bharoâ movement in support of the Christian festival, Valentineâs Day, which falls on 14 February.

It is not just a question of public decorum or political orthodoxy. This touches the social and cultural health of a nation at its very core; alcoholism has grim societal consequences and can simply implode a nation from within. The erstwhile Soviet Union faced this disaster in its Stalinist-Communist years, and many Western nations are struggling with alcoholism, broken homes, and worse, drug abuse.

So there can be only ONE REASON why Ms. Renuka Choudhary, Minister of State for Women and Child Development (what an irony), could indulge in such outrageous bravado without being made to step down immediately â and that is the fact that the UPA chairperson and Congress party president Sonia Gandhi is an Italian-born Roman Catholic, and âpub cultureâ and Valentineâs Day are an intrinsic part of contemporary Western Christian society.Â

Western corporates have worked overtime for more than a decade to make Valentineâs Day a major event among Indian youth, to de-culturise them from traditional Indian mores. When India already has Basant, Baisakhi and Holi festivals, where is the need for Valentineâs for youth to let down their hair? This Western-style pressure-driven dating or shopping (ably assisted by leading Indian newspapers and columnists) has fizzled out in the past few years as a natural resistance developed among the youth who want to do things at their own pace.

The startling events in a Mangalore pub last month has come as grist to the mill of the Congress Party and its Western leadership, which is trying to convert the specious practice of âdrink alcohol at any time of the dayâ into an issue of individual, and particularly womenâs liberty. Personally I am quite sure that the pub is not the best substitute for the coffee shop or snack counter. I am also doubtful that the Congress approach will eventually succeed with parents, concerned citizens, and police officers coping with growing incidents of youthful drunken driving and their tragic aftermath.

Given the emerging truth about the capital city of Delhi, it would seem that pubs are already full to the brim, that too, with school-going minors, who should be thrown out by responsible managements. As the legal age for drinking in a public place in Delhi is 25 years (when the revellers would be earning and spending their own money), there is no way that waiters and bartenders can mistake young adolescents for working men. They are selling alcohol for the money, plain and simple. That is corporate culture; and that is precisely what responsible governments and societies seek to control.

A newspaper reported recently that minors below the age of 16 years are able to purchase liquor from government-owned shops! Every year, nearly 2,000 minors are involved in drunken driving cases in the capital alone, either as offenders or victims. The Excise Department blames the cityâs âpub cultureâ for drawing minors to consume alcohol.

Yet it is precisely this âpub cultureâ that is set to get a boost from the crusading Renuka Choudhary. The minister hopes this will also give a boost to Valentineâs Day, on which the âandolanâ will be launched in Mangalore city, and put the âmoral policeâ in its place.

Many questions remain unanswered about the Mangalore pub incident. The electronic media was called and in position to film the events as they unfolded, which images were later flashed on television screens across the country for days. But no one took the same precaution to call the police, and this needs to be explained.

Meanwhile, no doubt enthused by a groundswell of public opinion in its favour, given growing social reservations about pub culture and all-hour drinking it is inculcating among the youth, activists have put up posters decrying Valentineâs Day, noodle straps, and tight jeans. The Minister, in turn, has asked the youth to celebrate the day with gusto, and we can expect this to be raised to a national festival if UPA manages to form the next government.

Renuka has gone so far as to send a notice to National Commission for Women member Nirmala Venkatesh for blaming pub security for the incident. No doubt the liquor lobby will respond to the Congress during the forthcoming general elections.

As Valentineâs go, however, my vote goes to the acerbic Sri Rama Sene chief Pramod Muthalik. Brushing aside Renukaâs allegations that he does not know how to behave with the opposite gender or understand love, he has declared âlasting loveâ as his mantra. Thatâs the spirit (pun intended). Muthalik has promised to marry off all couples found celebrating this Christian festival; their photographs will be taken and plastered on public walls in the spirit of âpyar kiya to darna kya.â

So walk into my pub, be my Valentineâ¦
One of the comments:
QUOTEÂ dear sandhya behenji, actually we in india already have a festival of love in vasant panchami. in the gupta era young men and women used to go to parka and gardens and make bowers of flowers to worship kamadeva, the god of love and make a wish for their loved one's affections. the dominant colour was yellow and there used to be music and dancing as part of the festivities. perhaps to counter valentine we could revive this charming festival.Â Â
Â Shama ZaidiNice.
When does this festival traditionally take place?

~~Pandyan~~ · 02-12-2009, 09:40 AM

Viren, thanks for posting these articles. I nearly forgot about all these incidents. The hypocrisy is plain to see.

Husky · 02-12-2009, 10:20 AM

QUOTE(Bodhi @ Feb 7 2009, 08:17 PM)Those who consider "pub" to be a western influence on bhArata are ill-informed.Â For several centuries Hindus have enjoyed their maNDapas, and yes women from decent families could visit these taverns too.Â Many an important transactions have been executed over sessions of maNDa in ancient India.
[right][snapback]94348[/snapback][/right]Bodhi, "pub culture" is something totally different from what you describe. Just like the Shinto Japanese drinking their Saki in their traditional inns is not the same.
You're merely talking about the consumption of some alcoholic (or otherwise intoxicating) beverage at a dedicated place where this was sold and socially consumed. And that's where the similarity of the Hindu/Shinto situation with respect to modern 'culture' ends. One can't draw a straight line between the two.

02-12-2009, 12:28 PM

http://www.dailypioneer.com/155693/Liberty...ibertinism.html

Liberty is not libertinism

Kanchan Gupta

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Found this item in vernacular press. Havent seen this item in ELM although vernacular press said the item was from PTI. Eventually found it on this site. Anyway not sure how politically-savvy this pub-bharo-andolan is.

http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/la...National/1/20/1

QUOTEVillage women vote to shut liquor shop

Kolhapur (Mah), Feb 11 Women of Nandni village in Shirol tehsil today voted to close down a liquor shop in their area in the presence of the concerned officials.

Nandni village is 40 km away from here and famous for vegetable exports. The women decided to close down the liquor shop in their village under the leadership of woman sarpanch Suvarna Devkate.

Two earlier attempts to close the shop had failed due to poor support. This time a large number of women in the village had come together to spread awareness about the bad effect of liquor.

Leaders of the village and youth supported this campaign. Yesterday, the village panchayat was organised in the presence of Block Development Officer (BDO) of Shirol tehsil M R Jadhav, State Excise Officer (SEO) K T Londe. At the meeting, out of 4,622 women in village, 3,235 women were present and all unanimously voted in favour of closing the liquor shop.

According to the State government rules, if more than 50 per cent of women in a village vote for closure of the liquor shop, then the shop in that village can be shut and its licence cancelled.

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Meanwhile gandhigiri is in full flow - Durga Sena will send pink saris in reply to pink chaddis.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalo...how/4114706.cms

QUOTEShe is currently involved in sending pink saris to the group that's trying to send pink chaddis to Mutalik. She thinks it's the most polite yet fitting reply. According to her, over 950 women have already registered with the Durga Sena to send saris.

Bodhi · 02-12-2009, 03:33 PM

QUOTE(Husky @ Feb 12 2009, 10:20 AM)Bodhi, "pub culture" is something totally different from what you describe. Just like the Shinto Japanese drinking their Saki in their traditional inns is not the same.
You're merely talking about the consumption of some alcoholic (or otherwise intoxicating) beverage at a dedicated place where this was sold and socially consumed. And that's where the similarity of the Hindu/Shinto situation with respect to modern 'culture' ends. One can't draw a straight line between the two.
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what i posted should only be taken in sense of a tidbit and nothing more of course.

02-12-2009, 08:30 PM

QUOTE(Pandyan @ Feb 12 2009, 12:10 AM)Viren, thanks for posting these articles. I nearly forgot about all these incidents. The hypocrisy is plain to see.
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You are welcome Pandyan. These hypocrites rely on the short term memory of average public to cover up their acts for the entire year. In fact they wait for mid-Feb year after year after year to beat up on their opposition using one silly issue.

This Feb like Feb before and the one before, you'll find a lot of people crying their eyes out over some burnt greeting cards. Remember 58 people burnt in Feb (02)? nah.. no one cares for them. Burnt cards attract more attention than people (men/women and kids) lit on fire.

02-12-2009, 09:08 PM

Pink Condoms respond to Pink Chaddis. Get's funnier by the minute.

~~Pandyan~~ · 02-13-2009, 12:28 AM

QUOTE(Husky @ Feb 12 2009, 12:50 AM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bodhi @ Feb 7 2009, 08:17 PM)Those who consider "pub" to be a western influence on bhArata are ill-informed.Â For several centuries Hindus have enjoyed their maNDapas, and yes women from decent families could visit these taverns too.Â Many an important transactions have been executed over sessions of maNDa in ancient India.
[right][snapback]94348[/snapback][/right]Bodhi, "pub culture" is something totally different from what you describe. Just like the Shinto Japanese drinking their Saki in their traditional inns is not the same.
You're merely talking about the consumption of some alcoholic (or otherwise intoxicating) beverage at a dedicated place where this was sold and socially consumed. And that's where the similarity of the Hindu/Shinto situation with respect to modern 'culture' ends. One can't draw a straight line between the two.
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I agree with Bodhi and you as well. The practice of communal drinking and dining is familiar to all cultures and of course cannot be shunned. What is to be abhorred is that these "MODEN" bars and pubs are basically prostitution centers where naive and stupid Hindu girls can be exploited by Muslims and Xtians. These are nothing but centers of depravity and degenerate behavior that only sluts would pursue.

An example of how these MODEN kool yaars in the Indian cities tend to think -

QUOTEA group of college girls are animated as they voice their opinion at a brightly-lit cafe.

"Whatever we do, it's our choice and our life. If we make out in public and people see us it's our problem. Who are you to punish us?" asks one angry teenager. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7858157.stm

Even these gutter sluts here in the west don't act like this. These girls think every hollywood production is an accurate reflection of western society and that somehow it is synonymous with "modernity" and "progress". Sick and tired of hearing about this doctrine of "progress".

02-13-2009, 01:40 AM

And it keeps coming folks. Just last month in our good old Mumbai - Cong/UPA/NCP ruled state

Tauba, tabua, if the perpetrator was say named Ravi instead of Riyaz, Renukaji and her beer-sloshed-pinko-chaddis would have shut down the city.

22 year old Pak girl beaten up for sporting tattoo in Urdu - no not in Kabul or Quetta, in MUMBAI's poshest mall!!
QUOTEA Pakistani national, who had come to pursue a course in production from Whistling Woods International Institute in Mumbai, was beaten up at a Malad mall last week for sporting a tattoo in Urdu on her back. The incident scared the girl so much that she left for Pakistan on Friday.

Saba Najam, 22, was roughed up at Hypercity Mall in Malad last Monday after some people spotted a tattoo in Urdu on her back. The incident took place at around 8.30 pm when Saba had gone to the washroom of the mall.

Some women suddenly approached her and assaulted her over the tattoo which read âShukr Alham Du Lillahâ, meaning âThank you, Godâ.

Riyaz Ahmed Talukdar, a member of Jan Seva Sangh, a local NGO, had first spotted the tattoo on Sabaâs back and informed his mother, Shabana Talukdar. Riyaz said, âWhen I saw the tattoo I was furious as holy words from the Quran were on her back.â Shabana, along with a few other women, then came to the mall in the next 15 minutes and confronted Saba in the washroom.

They slapped the girl several times before the mall management intervened.

âSince both the parties concerned are our patrons we simply referred the matter to the police,â said Manvir Singh, spokesperson of Hypercity Mall.

The group, along with Saba, were taken to the Bangur Nagar police station.

According to Bangur Nagar police, Saba apologised profusely and said she hadnât known that the tattoo would hurt anybodyâs sentiments.

Danaji Nalavde, inspector in-charge of crime at the police station, said, âThere was nothing objectionable about the tattoo and there are no legal provisions under which we could have booked her. But since the group of people were agitated we asked Saba to give her statement in writing.â

In her statement Saba said she was sorry and that she would get the tattoo removed through laser surgery in the next three days. Nevertheless, the cops referred the matter to legal experts to see if they could book Saba for hurting religious sentiments or under any other legal provision.

On Friday night, however, Saba left for Lahore. Ravi Gupta, executive director of Whistling Woods told Mumbai Mirror that Saba seemed extremely disturbed after the incident.
(wow, Saba can deal with Talibanis in Lahore than our Mumbai, will Mahashtra govt offer any apology?)


âWe had spoken to the cops who assured us that there was no case against her. We told her there was nothing to worry about but she was too scared,â he said.

Saba hails from Lahore in Pakistan and had come to Mumbai in 2007 on a student visa. She joined Whistling Woods in 2008.

She got the tattoo done from a tattoo parlour in Bandra in February 2008.

Saba was unavailable for comment. Meanwhile, Riyaz says he is happy Saba has left the country.

Moral of the story: If you are Paki and hold our city as hostage for 72 hours killing 180+ people, we'll house you in best of facilities and hopefully one day commute your death sentence, if we ever get to that.
If you come here in peace to study but sport a tatoo that offend fragile egos of our minorities, we'll beat the crap out of you and chase you out.

02-13-2009, 02:21 AM

Come to think of it, Bodhiji's statement might actually make atleast some of these modern folks to have second thoughts about it -> if ancient hindus did it there must be something wrong with it. Who knows, someone might even call it the hindu-hadith or some such thing. Ofcourse if the next statement is -> westerners also do it, then they will take the next auto out to nearest pub. <!--emo& Smile

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02-13-2009, 02:30 AM

http://www.zeenews.com/states/2009-02-12...0news.html

Title says "Govt team contradicts NCW report on Mangalore pub attack case" - ignores that the "team" refers to 2-member-team from Renuka-ji's ministry.

02-13-2009, 02:33 AM

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mangalo...how/4119717.cms
QUOTEUnion minister for women and child development Renuka Chowdhury's statement regarding Talibanization of Mangalore has been condemned by the Rashtriyavadi Christhara Vedike here.

In a release here on Thursday, forum convener Franklyn Monteiro said the minister's irresponsible statement would tarnish the image of the region known for peaceful coexistence and create obstacles in the development process.

Stating that anti-social mafia was responsible for spreading pub culture in the district, he said the minister should apologize to the people for her reckless statements. He also called on the youth not to take part in Valentine's Day celebrations.

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