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[HareKrishna]

Oradea,Transylvania.

[sumishi]

[quote name='HareKrishna' date='16 February 2010 - 10:03 PM' timestamp='1266337530' post='104270']

There wasn't any topic about Bildergerg ,masons,secret government and other secret organizations ...

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Its amazing how people are either unaware of or hesitate to venture into topics and discussions of these kind. Responses to the initial post in about four months - zero.



Instead of spending some time delving into information related to these "invisible" forces influencing world affairs, and coming to their own conclusions based on their own analysis, most would offhand deny their existence with contempt. Centuries have passed, but people still hold on to such attitude as exemplified by the geocentric church refusing to look through Galileo's telescope proclaiming it to be the instrument of the devil.



The public has always been in denial of what highly organised groups of evil control freaks are capable of. And so, throughout history, tyranny always stages comebacks, and finally the people rise to wipe it out but only after tremendous sacrifices and casualties. The following generation then forgets the lessons of history and those with evil intent slowly rise to the top again and the cycle repeats.

[Guest]

[url="http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=133200&p=3&topicID=35778276"]Check these picture from house of Drug boss in Mexico[/url]

[Guest]

We had discussed them from time to time in US thread or US election.

[sumishi]

[quote name='Mudy' date='12 June 2010 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1276287114' post='106856']

We had discussed them from time to time in US thread or US election.

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Nice to know and thanks for the info Mudy. Meanwhile, I would request HareKrishna (or the Admin) to re-label this topic to something like "New World Order and India" or "One World Government and India."



It was probably George Bush who first used the term "New World Order" in 1991.



That's where all these hidden sleights of hand are leading towards, and the Copenhagen summit was a major step towards trying to put in place the financial foundation of such a bureaucratic global governance through a global tax regime -- that it apparently came apart at the seams was a breather <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.



Gordon Brown recently had called for a global financial consitution to deal with the (manufactured) global financial crisis (BBC, 19 Feb, 2010).



This move towards a one world order aided and abetted by the manufactured global financial crisis is something that should be analysed and debated in full in its own separate thread like this one. My opinion is that discussing such insidious geopolitics in threads dealing with News tends to fragment the chain of linkages on this extremely important and dangerously undemocratic hidden trend.

[Guest]

[url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/jun/14/charlie-skelton-bilderberg-2010"]Bilderberg 2010: What we have learned[/url]

A huge agenda of global issues was crammed into four days of 'secret' meetings by a mysterious group of power brokers. But who elected them and why are we paying for them?

[sumishi]

[quote name='Mudy' date='15 June 2010 - 07:06 PM' timestamp='1276608502' post='106948']

[url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/jun/14/charlie-skelton-bilderberg-2010"]Bilderberg 2010: What we have learned[/url]

A huge agenda of global issues was crammed into four days of 'secret' meetings by a mysterious group of power brokers. But who elected them and why are we paying for them?

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Thanks for the link Mudy. Finally the "behind the scenes" power brokers are being reported in the mainstream press. Probably because the mainstream media is finding it hard to ignore them without further losing credibility. BTW, the major global media houses are under the influence, if not direct control, of these "globalists."



According to Professor Carroll Quigley, in his book "Tragedy and Hope (1966)," there exists a conspiratorial network which wants "nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole ... his [the individual's] freedom and choice will be controlled within very narrow alternatives by the fact that he will be numbered from birth and followed, as a number, through his educational training, his required military or other public service, his tax contributions, his health and medical requirements, and his final retirement and death benefits."



In "None Dare Call it Conspiracy (1971)," Gary Allen & Larry Abraham opine that the network "... wants control over all natural resources, business, banking and transportation by controlling the governments of the world. In order to accomplish these aims the conspirators have had no qualms about fomenting wars, depressions and hatred. They want a monopoly which would eliminate all competitors and destroy the free enterprise system."



Allen & Abraham say further that "...the first job of any conspiracy, whether it be in politics, crime or within a business office, is to convince everyone else that no conspiracy exists. The conspirators success will be determined largely by their ability to do this. That the elite of the academic world and mass communications media always pooh-pooh the existence of the Insiders merely serves to camouflage their operations."



More excerpts from "None Dare Call it Conspiracy (1971)":



"Because the Establishment controls the media, anyone exposing the Insiders will be the recipient of a continuous fusillade of invective from newspapers,

magazines, TV and radio. In this manner one is threatened with loss of "social respectability" if he dares broach the idea that there is organization behind any of the problems currently wracking America. Unfortunately, for many people social status comes before intellectual honesty. Although they would never admit it social position is more important to many people than is the survival of freedom in America"



"One thing which makes it so hard for some socially minded people to assess the conspiratorial evidence objectively is that the conspirators come from the very highest social strata. They are immensely wealthy, highly educated and extremely cultured. Many of them have lifelong reputations for philanthropy. Nobody enjoys being put in the position of accusing prominent people of conspiring to enslave their fellow Americans, but the facts are inescapable."



"It is difficult for the average individual to fathom such perverted lust for power. The typical person ... has no desire to exercise power over others, to conquer other lands or peoples, to be a king. He wants to mind his own business and enjoy life. Since he has no lust for power, it is difficult for him to imagine that there are others who have ... [b]ut we must realize that there have been Hitlers and Lenins and Stalins and Caesars.."

[BlessedAgni]

Most of the list of [url="http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/meeting_2010_2.html"]participants[/url] consists of bankers. With a few politicians. What could they possibly want to talk about Pakistan? Notice the [url="http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/conferences.html"]last 2[/url] years also had Pakistan in its agenda. Is it to make it an economic hub? is it to provide it with more finance ? What is it?

[sumishi]

This BP Oil Spill and Explosion (April 20) in the Gulf of Mexico is getting "curiouser and curiouser," as Alice would say in Wonderland.<img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Seems Goldman Sachs dumped more than 50% of its shares in BP, and the BP CEO dumped 33% of his, in the weeks prior to the spill.<img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />

[url="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-business/article-23847193-goldman-sachss-shares-sell-off-beats-gulf-oil-spill-debacle.do"]Goldman Sachs beat oil spill debacle with BP shares sell-off[/url]

[url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7804922/BP-chief-Tony-Hayward-sold-shares-weeks-before-oil-spill.html"]BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill[/url]



Obama might try to push through the carbon tax after the failure to do so in the Copenhagen summit (thanks to the anthropogenic global warming fraud exposed through climategate mails and the "Danish text" leak)

[G.Subramaniam]

Ravi Sangisetty - Louisiana, 3rd Congressional District



In December 2008, Ravi married his wife Sarah, now a graduate of Tulane Law School. The couple lives in Houma, where Ravi’s parents, both immigrants from India, still reside and maintain thriving medical practices. Ravi draws inspiration from their successes and finds that their values of hard work, self-determination, family, and community are the same on which our great region was built.



Ravi now works in Houma as a business attorney at the law firm of Duval, Funderburk, Sundbery, Lovell and Watkins. He stays involved with his alma mater, Vandebilt Catholic High School, and attends mass at St. Bernadette Catholic Church.

[G.Subramaniam]

Kamala Harris is a Baptist. Or Ami Bera is an Unitarian.

[G.Subramaniam]

Kamala Harris and Ami Bera and Ravi Sangisetty are Democrats, and all xtians

[Guest]

Here....there is still some hope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satveer_Chaudhary

[Guest]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/arti...gD9GEH8F01



Record # of Indian Americans running...

[RomaIndian]

I received my DNA results from 23andMe, i need now alot of indians to use the compare genes tool... im InquiringMind please invite me if you are there or send me message or post in this thread additionally. Tell me also your background so far i have 4 indians but they are low similarity with me, they are south and east indian.



My mtDNA is T2b4 a subclade of T2

My y-DNA is E1b1b1a2*

[HareKrishna]

[quote name='RomaIndian' date='27 June 2010 - 01:21 PM' timestamp='1277624604' post='107198']

I received my DNA results from 23andMe, i need now alot of indians to use the compare genes tool... im InquiringMind please invite me if you are there or send me message or post in this thread additionally. Tell me also your background so far i have 4 indians but they are low similarity with me, they are south and east indian.



My mtDNA is T2b4 a subclade of T2

My y-DNA is E1b1b1a2*

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E1b1b is distributed as far south as South Africa, and northwards into North Africa, from where it has in more recent millennia expanded to Europe and Asia. E1b1b1 is the predominant subclade of E1b1b, representing almost exactly the same population. The E1b1b clade is presently found in various forms in the Horn of Africa, North Africa, parts of Eastern, Western, and Southern Africa, West Asia, and Europe (especially the Mediterranean and the Balkans)

E1b1b and E1b1b1 are quite common amongst Afro-Asiatic speakers. The linguistic group and E1b1b1 may have dispersed together from the region of origin of this language family.[12][13][14] Amongst populations with an Afro-Asiatic speaking history, a significant proportion of Jewish male lineages are E1b1b1 (E-M35).[15] Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18%[3] to 20% of Ashkenazi and 8.6% to 30% of Sephardi Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.





T2

Haplogroup T is thought to have originated in Mesopotamia and/or the Fertile Crescent (modern Syria and Turkey) approximately 10,000-12,000 years ago, and then moved northwest in to Europe and east as far as modern Pakistan and India.

The mitochondrial Haplogroup T is best characterized as a European lineage. With an origin in the Near East greater than 45,000 years ago, the major sub-lineages of Haplogroup T entered Europe around the time of the Neolithic 10,000 years ago. Once in Europe, these sub-lineages underwent a dramatic expansion associated with the arrival of agriculture in Europe.

Haplogroup T2 is one of the older sub-lineages and may have been present in Europe as early as the Late Upper Palaeolithic

Haplogroup T is currently found with high concentrations around the eastern Baltic Sea. According to Oxford Ancestors, Haplogroup T "includes slightly fewer than 10% of modern Europeans. Its many branches are widely distributed throughout southern and western Europe with particularly high concentrations in Ireland .

According to the Genographic Project: "Haplogroup T has a very wide distribution, and is present as far east as the Indus Valley bordering India and Pakistan and as far south as the Arabian peninsula. It is also common in eastern and northern Europe.

[RomaIndian]

[quote name='HareKrishna' date='27 June 2010 - 07:36 PM' timestamp='1277663305' post='107202']

E1b1b is distributed as far south as South Africa, and northwards into North Africa, from where it has in more recent millennia expanded to Europe and Asia. E1b1b1 is the predominant subclade of E1b1b, representing almost exactly the same population. The E1b1b clade is presently found in various forms in the Horn of Africa, North Africa, parts of Eastern, Western, and Southern Africa, West Asia, and Europe (especially the Mediterranean and the Balkans)

E1b1b and E1b1b1 are quite common amongst Afro-Asiatic speakers. The linguistic group and E1b1b1 may have dispersed together from the region of origin of this language family.[12][13][14] Amongst populations with an Afro-Asiatic speaking history, a significant proportion of Jewish male lineages are E1b1b1 (E-M35).[15] Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18%[3] to 20% of Ashkenazi and 8.6% to 30% of Sephardi Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

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Im E1b1ba2* a subclade of E1b1a .. its most common in the balkans... here is the distribution of my y-haplogroup



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...b1b1a2.png

[RomaIndian]

You may well be 100% European, but its unlikely. What you fit best

is a mix of Italian and from actual India. Nothing else fits well at all.

This actually means that you are either some sort of mix from those areas,

or from somewhere in between. You do not, however, fit as Adygei

(near Georgia or Armenia) at all well, even as a mix. Draw a curve line

from Italy to India, avoiding Palestine and other Arab areas which you really

don't fit ( despite the 14% bleedthrough from Europe and India).

[Guest]

[url="http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2010/May28/2891.html"]Bilderberg Group Role In Economic Collapse?[/url]

[sumishi]

[quote name='Mudy' date='12 July 2010 - 08:38 AM' timestamp='1278903659' post='107407']

[url="http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2010/May28/2891.html"]Bilderberg Group Role In Economic Collapse?[/url]

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Also, this thread -- [url="http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/2454-international-banking-and-the-capitalist-conspiracy/"]International Banking and the Capitalist Conspiracy[/url] -- gives the historical background to the hijack of the global economic system by international bankers, with which the Bilderbergers (and such other burgers) are aligned.