The Real Indian IQ

[G.Subramaniam]

135 IQ, DC



Rao, D = SIB

Rajaram, A = SIB

Bhatnagar, K = NIB

Dhara, S = NIB

Krishanmurthy, N = SIB

Ramaswamy, M = SIB

Bal, R = SIB

Kaul, R = NIB kashmiri

Srinivasa, V = SIB

Verghese, J = Syrian Xtia



Total = 10



SIB = 6

NIB = 3

Syrian Xtian = 1

[G.Subramaniam]

When I started the thread, I thought the 81 IQ was false,



But, as I start looking at hard data, from National Merit list of 135 IQ,



The hard data is very depressing



It is very obvious, that



1) the Han are beating us by a factor of 3. The only castes that keep up with Han elite and Jews are SIB and Punjabi Khatri and Jain.

2) Only a handful of castes show up on this list. 80% of the NRI population is from castes that barely show up on these lists

And most of the NRI awards are from the same handful of castes.

3) Brain drain of castes deeply affected by Quota is deeply screwing India in the long term.

The late Shiva Subramanya, ran Star Wars defence for USA, If he had not been screwed by quota, he could have done same in India

4) The average long term IQ of India is barely above 90, The caribbean Indian Y-DNA H1, NI-OBC, which is 50% of India. never shows up in these lists. The caribbean Indians are from Bihar OBC. In the Bihar Super 30 coaching which gets them into IIT, what is not well explained is that to get these 30, they have to screen 30k or only 1 in 1000 makes it or 3 SD gap

5) There are 50 non-brahmin Tamil Sangams in North America, and despite these lakhs, only a handful of them show up in these lists. In the USA, they cant fiddle with quota as in TN

6) The highest IQ dravidian caste is Reddy, they handily beat Syrian xtian, Tamil Velala, and Chetti bania

7 ) NIB is roughly at NI bania generic

8 ) North West Indian landlord castes, R1A such as Patel and Jat are at Reddy landlord levels. The problem in SI, is that except for SIB, there is none above Reddy. SI bania scores below Reddy

9) Among SIB, Maharashtrian brahmins ( ending in kar ) are minimal. Telegu brahmins score as often as Tambrams

10) Bengalis are grossly over-rated, Bengali Brahmins and Kayasths score only slightly above generic NIB and NI-kayasth. Bengalis score below SIB, Khatri, Jain, Sindhi

[G.Subramaniam]

Pennsylvania, 135 IQ

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Biswas, B = NI kayastha bengali

Shankar, S = SIB

Reddy, S = Reddy

Nataraj, K = SIB

Agarwal, V = NI bania

Gulrajani, I = NI bania Sindhi

Vaddempudi, R = SIB

Balaji, B = SIB

Pughazhendi, A = Tamil Velala

Padgaonkar, S = SIB





Punati, V = SIB

Bhamidpati, D = SIB

Bhamidpati, K = SIB

Penugonda, A = SIB

Suganthan, P = SIB

Iyengar, A = SIB

Dighe, S = SIB

Nimgaonkar, V = SIB

Narayan, A = SIB

Rajawat, A = NI rajput





Viswanathan, V = SIB

Patel, S = Patel

Shekhar, N = SIB

Masireddy, S = Reddy

[G.Subramaniam]

In above post,



Total = 24



SIB = 16

NI bania = 2

Reddy = 2

NI Kayastha bengali = 1

TN velala = 1

[G.Subramaniam]

Illinois 135 IQ



Gupta, S = NI bania

Karan, A = NI kayastha oriya

Kumar, V = SIB

Kumar, P = SIB

Maheshwari, R = NI bania

Sheth, U = NI bania

Singh, N = Jat Sikh

Tolapa, A = SIB

Sriram, R = SIB

Sadhana, A = NI bania Sindhi





Doshi, A = NIB bengali

Patel, A = Patel

Raju, S = SI rajput Telegu

Sudhakar, S = SIB

Sreedhar, H = SIB

Kotadia, S = NI bania Sindhi

Agnihotri, J = NIB

Dharmavaram, G = SIB

Gupta, R = NI bania

Kasuganti, S = SIB







Maheshwari, N = NI bania

Meduri, A = SIB

Reddy, A = Reddy

Kulkarni, K = SIB

Bhatia, A = NI bania Khatri

Bavishi, A = SIB

Balasubramania, S = SIB

Pasupathy, A = SIB

Sankar, A = SIB

Chopra, A = NI bania Khatri







Datla, S = SI rajput Telegu

Rai, A = SI bania bunt

Sailesh, A = SIB

Saxena, P = NI kayastha

Venkatesan, N = SIB

Singam, V = Tamil Velala Jaffna

Dutta, N = NI bengali baidya

Kumar, C = SIB

Rastogi, R = NI bania

Vaidya, S = NIB bengali

[G.Subramaniam]

In above, total = 40



SIB = 16

NIB = 3

NI bania = 10

[G.Subramaniam]

135 IQ Delaware



Siva, K = SIB

[G.Subramaniam]

135 IQ Wisconsin





Patel, K = Patel

Shreekumar, A = SIB

Trivedi, A = NIB

Gunasekaran, S = Tamil Velala

Kalluri, P = SIB

Ramakrishnan, V = SIB

Pathak, R = NIB guj

Ramnarayan, N = NIB bhumihar

Nair, N = Nair

Nagarajan, A = SIB

[G.Subramaniam]

135 IQ Michigan



Lakshamanan, N = SIB

Narayan, S = SIB

Nallani, A = NI bania Sindhi

Shah, V = NI bania guj

Acharya, J = SIB

Kandadia, A = NI bania Sindhi

Maripudi, S = SIB

Jena, S = NIB Oriya

Gaur, M = NIB





Kumar, D = SIB

Mahajan, D = SIB

Mukundan, A = SIB

Patankar, H = SIB

Rajachudamani, S = SIB

Seetharaman, Y = SIB

Sriranga, P = SIB

Sulibhavi, A = SIB

Suresh, R = SIB

Rao, N = SIB





Zaveri, R = NI bania Jain

Rathi, M = NI bania

Chintalapuri, S = SIB

Padmanabhan, S = SIB

Panyam, V = SIB

Pandya, Y = NIB guj

Gollapudi, S = SIB

Suryadevara, R = SIB

Inturi, S = SIB

Chavali, N = SIB





Mukerji, A = NIB bengali

Prasad, V = SIB

Arakali, S = SIB

Bokil, N = SIB

Chandra, S = SIB

Devireddy, S = Reddy

Gudipudi, R = SIB

Krishna, D = SIB

Purekar, H = SIB

Singhal, D = NI bania

[G.Subramaniam]

In above, total = 40



SIB = 28

[G.Subramaniam]

Most NRI have the opinions that we are a high IQ group



The data from NY demolishes that



There are 969 on the lists, hundreds of jews and Han



and ONLY 27 Indians



about 3%



And 17 of that 27 is the familiar brahmin-NI bania combo



Keep in mind that NY has lakhs of carib Indians, DNA-H1, who are 50% of India and none are on that list



Change the caste mix of the diaspora, and the results are drastically different

[G.Subramaniam]

https://mathcounts.org/Page.aspx?pid=1872



Has mathcounts winners list for 2011



Total = 56 finalists

Han = 34

Jews = 4

Indians = 9 ( brahmin NI-bania combo )

Euro = 9



#3 = SIB

#9 = SIB

#10 = SIB

#18 = SIB

#26 = NI bania Sindhi

#30 = NI bania

#33 = SIB

#45 = NIB bengali

#53 = NIB



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70% of the Indian pop is quota candidates, and none of them can match the Han

[G.Subramaniam]

What is the average IQ of the caribbean Indians, in NY



Is it 85, same as African American with much better family values, perhaps it is 90, Hispanic IQ, with much better family values



They seem to make more money than whites, due to cab driving and 7-11 stores



The Average Indian IQ = = Caribbean Indian IQ

[G.Subramaniam]

135 IQ Maryland



Sriram, S = SIB

Agarwal, S = NI bania generic

Kumar, T = SIB

Krishnan, M = SIB

Venkataram, P = SIB

Chellapa, D = SI rajput, coorgi

Mittal, U = NI bania jain

Puttagunta, R = SIB

[G.Subramaniam]

135 IQ Washington State



Shankara, N = SIB

Mehta, A = NIB guj

Saha, P = NI bania bengali

Chepuri, S = SIB

Deo, I = NIB bengali

Paramesh, R = SIB

[G.Subramaniam]

https://mathcounts.org/Document.Doc?id=520



2010 Mathcounts Finalists



56 Finalists, of which 39 = Han



#2 SIB

#20 SIB

#21 SIB

#38 NI bania Sindhi

#41 SIB

[G.Subramaniam]

http://maa.org/news/usamo2011/winners.html



12 finalists for US math olympiad team - 2011



8 = Han

1 = SIB

1 = Jew

2 = Euro

[G.Subramaniam]

http://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2011/pr20110531.cfm



5 member, 2011 US physics olympiad team



3 Han

1 SIB

1 Jew

[G.Subramaniam]

California STAR scores. 7th grade from elite districts



Cupertino, English, Math



White = 408, 404

Korean = 418. 426

Chinese = 441, 450

Indian = 439, 459

Vietnamese = 404, 398

Japanese = 380, 409

Black = 356, 351

Hispanic = 358, 341

Filipino = 405, 412





Palo Alto, English, Math



White = 420, 435

Korean = 446, 488

Chinese = 446, 501

Indian = 450, 494

Japanese = 433, 468

Black = 338, 332

Hispanic = 358, 359

Filipino =





Saratoga, English, Math



White = 423, 432

Chinese = 455, 497

Indian = 461, 495





The good news and bad news



At the elite levels, the highest ranked Hindus can keep up with the Hans, the bad news is, 70% of the Indian pop, which is absent in these districts cant



To look at the overall state of California,



CA, english, math



White = 384, 375

Korean = 412, 426

Chinese = 416, 434

Indian = 406, 410

Vietnamese = 393, 406

Japanese = 401, 413

Black = 340, 328

Hispanic = 342, 340

Filipino = 384, 379





At the state level, the Average Indian, which includes a lot of non-elite IQ mid-level castes, cant keep up with the Han



And California Indians are definitely not from the bottom 50% like Caribbean Indians and SC-ST



When the Nishad component, 50% is added, Indian performance will drop further

[ashish]

[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='21 January 2012 - 02:07 PM' timestamp='1327183190' post='114279']

The Sri Lankan civil war started due to Sinhalese wanting quotas against the Tamils. And almost no SIB in Sri Lanka



In the above lists, except for SIB, just a handful of tamils made it,



Which means Sinhalese IQ must be much much lower than Tamil IQ, perhaps almost at black levels



Thats due to enstupidation of buddhist societies, due to celibacy of monks ( the higher IQ segment )

[/quote]



But Sri Lanka is at least twice as prosperous as Tamil Nadu. Is that because -



1. Tamils in Sri Lanka are more Christian, therefore more modern or



2. Indian TN is paying a heavy price due to India's federal structure where most of their wealth is being sent to low IQ populations



?