USA And The Future Of The World -II

[Husky]

1) Need to read post 161 (further above) first:

Recall the US bone collectors seen in #161, who collected as trophies the bones of Afghan civilians incl children whom they'd murdered and then posed grinning with the massacred bodies.

And recall how the US state views the token arrested/sentenced soldier (sentenced for a measly 7 years, and expected to be cut much shorter still):

Holmes' family cried as judge Lt. Col. Kwasi Hawks read the sentence, prefacing it by telling Holmes that, "I hope and I believe you will have a long and productive life, and I believe a happy life."

2) Compare and contrast that with the treatment meted out to Manning - whose crime was to leak information on the murderous USA etc to Wikileaks:



www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/8906215/WikiLeaks-Bradley-Manning-to-have-first-hearing-before-military-court-next-month.html

Thursday 08 December 2011



WikiLeaks: Bradley Manning to have first hearing before military court next month



Bradley Manning, the US soldier alleged to have passed to WikiLeaks a trove of military and diplomatic documents, will have a first hearing before a military court next month, the Pentagon said on Monday.



[color="#800080"][Photo caption:][/color] Bradley Manning is suspected of leaking thousands of Iraq War documents to Wikileaks Photo: EPA

9:33AM GMT 22 Nov 2011

[color="#800080"](Photo looks like that of a child....?)[/color]



Manning, who has spent the past year-and-a-half in prison, is to appear before a Dec 16 tribunal in Fort Meade, Maryland, just outside Washington, DC, military officials said.



Army officials said Manning is to appear at an “Article 32 hearing,” the first step in a court martial that could end up in a life sentence.



“The primary purpose of the Article 32 hearing is to evaluate the relative strengths and weaknesses of the government’s case as well as to provide the defence with an opportunity to obtain pretrial discovery,” a Pentagon statement said.

It added that the hearing, which is scheduled to take place the day before his 24th birthday, is “similar to a civilian grand jury, with additional rights afforded to the accused.”



Manning allegedly gave thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks, which later published them online. He is charged with “aiding the enemy,” a crime which carries a maximum penalty of life in prison.



Manning is the only suspect facing trial in the United States for the document dump – a massive intelligence breach which led to an embarrassing daily drip of diplomatic revelations and military secrets in newspapers and websites around the world.



Manning, who was arrested in July 2010, served as a US intelligence official in Iraq.



[color="#0000FF"]His conditions in detention, which have included solitary confinement and being forced to sleep naked, have drawn the attention of Amnesty International, the American Civil Liberties Union and the British government.[/color]

Meanwhile psychopathic US murderers in the US army - going into ecstasies upon killing unarmed Afghan children/civilians - can get a much shorter sentence on 'good behaviour', will get a pat on the back of "There, there, don't cry you sociopath, just do a few years time and then you'll be welcomed back into AmeriKKKan society."



AmeriKKKa. Land of uh opportunity and to Be All That You Can Be. Just don't rock the boat, and don't Bite The Hand That Feeds. (Last is also a reasonably well-known song by Nine Inch Nails. As I recall, there's some fitting lines amongs its lyrics...)





3) And also compare the treatment of the psychopaths/US soldiers who operated in Afghanistan (see post 161 again) with the US government's most pointed vengeance towards British hacker Gary McKinnon:



www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/gary-mckinnon-they-cant-return-me-to-a-place-i-wasnt-in-1974573.html

16 May 2010

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Here, in his own words via email "with the help of his mother, Janis Sharp" McKinnon gives IoS readers an insight into how he feels after a four-year legal battle to stay out of the hands of the US authorities.



How are you feeling about the upcoming judicial review?

Nervous. Especially as the judge has been changed from Justice Mitting who sounded like a fair man, to two other judges, one of whom previously worked for the Treasury.



How do you spend your time?

In a state of constant stress. It's impossible to be motivated or to plan anything. Constantly wishing I could get out of my own skin.



What concerns you most?

Being alone in another country with a different culture and no family or friends near you or able to visit you is a terrifying prospect. Being dragged from my own home and country to a place I've never been in is terrifying in itself and is against the rules of our Magna Carta, which states that British citizens have a right to be tried by a jury of their peers. My peers are in the UK and this is where I should be tried. Look up the extreme conditions in those prisons and at what the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) say about those prisons and tell me that you wouldn't be terrified.



What do you want to say to the judges deciding your case?

Cyberspace doesn't exist any more than never-never land. I was no more in America than anyone who is on a long-distance telephone call. The fiction of cyberspace should be properly tested in a British court because it is no more real than Santa Claus. They cannot "return" me to a country I wasn't in, yet they continually refer in court to "returning me". If I was being returned to the place where my crime was committed, I would be returned to Crouch End. I am not a fugitive, I was physically in North London and have remained in North London.



Don't you think you should be punished for what you did?

I have been punished much more than I would have been had I committed a heinous crime. It's impossible to explain what eight years of heightened, constant stress does to you. I have lost eight years of my life and my parents have lost eight years of their lives. We live with this 24 hours a day and can barely think of anything else and it's impossible to plan anything or to feel happy when you know what might lie ahead.



[color="#0000FF"]So, what punishment would be appropriate?

A punishment proportionate to the crime and consistent with other accused hackers in the UK, including those accused of hacking into the Pentagon. As Robert Gates from the Pentagon said: 300 people a day still infiltrate Nasa and US military computers. There have been no other extradition requests from the US for any other hackers in the world, including a Romanian hacker who hacked into the Pentagon and was sentenced to eight months in Romania, and an Israeli hacker who hacked into the Pentagon and was not even given a sentence and no extradition request.[/color]

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It's "curious" to see with what vengeance* the petty-minded AmeriKKKan tyrants are after people like McKinnon and Assange of Wikileaks, and how the AmeriKKKans deal with some of their own (officer Manning) but not others (psychopath soldiers).

* But not curious Why.



I'm not surprised that AmeriKKKa is ISI's best (onlee?) and dear friend. "Soort zoekt soort" zeggen ze toch ook.



Same people - same mentality - that genocided the indigenous, the native Americans. Nothing's changed. Because there's been no retribution to change it, no reckoning. They got away with genocide and all they've learnt is that they *can* get away with it - in full view of the public.