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Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6
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Quote:karyakarta92 said...

I visited Bidar district a few months ago. It's demography has been altered beyond recognition. There are Christist convert villages and Mohammedan villages on either side of the highway. Hindus are marginalized and enfeebled and on the verge of reduced to minority status. A family friend contested for the Lok Sabha on a BJP ticket and lost to the idiot Dharam Singh of the KKKaangress due to block voting by Mohammedans and Christist neo converts. Their belligerence needs to be seen to be believed. These brutes need to be checked.
It's been and being repeated in several places in Bharatam. Organising strategic voteblocks for bringing christianism into power and keeping it there is christianism's modus operandi.

2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/12/h...sault.html

Quote:how hindus can survive the 4M assault: English translation of Smt Sasikala Teacher's Speech

dec 19th, 2009

[color="#800080"](Not the 4 "Ms" again. It's not "missionaries" that are the problem. It is christianism itself. In fact, it is the ROOT problem.)[/color]

the fiery sasikala teacher tells a few home truths. what she says is the absolute, unvarnished truth, which the p-secs would rather not have the peepuls know. so, peepuls, please read it. i have listened to her speeches in malayalam before, and they are great.

the missionaries, mullahs, marxists and macaulayites hate her because she exposes their lies.

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Ghatotkacha Nair

Date: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Subject: English translation of Smt Sasikala Teacher's Speech



Please look up http://ghatotkacha-nair.blogspot.com/200...waken.html

for a translation of Smt Sasikala Teacher's Speech, 'TO AWAKEN THE HINDU FROM HIS DEEP SLUMBER'.


Ghatotkacha Nair

Posted by nizhal yoddha at 12/19/2009 08:47:00 AM 0 comments Links to this post

This official knows the tragic history of Christianity's "encounter" with native culture.

[url="http://www.christianpost.com/article/20091224/columbian-official-bans-christianity-arrests-28-believers/index.html"]Columbian Official Bans Christianity; Arrests 28 Believers[/url]

Quote:A Columbian governor banned Christianity on a reservation for indigenous people and has imprisoned 28 of the natives for refusing to renounce their Christian faith.


The governor reportedly wants the Kogui to maintain the traditional identity of the tribal region, including animism. He has threatened to imprison all the Christian members of the Kogui community unless they renounce Christianity. This could result in over 100 more Kogui individuals being imprisoned
Enlightened woman knocks down infallible Pope during Christmas mass


[size="4"]The Pope’s moral blunders on outsourcing[/size]

Religion and business rarely mix well. This shows up in the encyclical of Pope Benedict XVI. The encyclical generally supports globalization, but criticises Western companies that outsource business to developing countries.

This criticism has an unfortunate ethnic slant. The Pope echoes the wish of a white labour aristocracy in the West to snatch jobs and income away from much poorer but more competitive workers in Third World countries. That is repugnant in both economic and moral terms.

The Western argument cannot quite be called racist. Politicians and workers in the West are not all white—some are black or brown. Yet the ethnic implications of the Western protest against outsourcing cannot be ignored. The protest rarely focuses on outsourcing to white countries like Poland, Latvia or Bulgaria. It focuses overwhelmingly on outsourcing to black, brown and yellow nations.

This is mainly on economic grounds---wages are lower in Asia than in Eastern Europe, and so the scope for outsourcing is far greater. Yet the ethnic implications cannot be ignored. The mainly white labour aristocracy of the West is clamouring to get companies to shut down jobs and production in countries with black, brown and yellow workers. This means impoverishing poor workers to subsidise the labour aristocracy. Instead of being ashamed of trying to rob the poor of jobs, the labour aristocracy talks in high moral tones, as though it has a God-given right to jobs that have actually gone entirely on merit to the Third World.

For most of history, China and India were the richest countries in the world, with the most advanced technologies and best jobs. The Industrial Revolution changed that—the best jobs moved to the West, and millions of Indian textile workers were rendered unemployed by British mills. The Western labour aristocracy never complained of that shift of the best jobs from the East to the West, but cannot countenance a shift in the opposite direction.

One valid Western objection, on both economic and moral grounds, relates to the use (mainly by China) of prison labour, forced labour and child labour to produce cheap goods for export. Such exports have largely been checked, and now constitute a negligible part of outsourcing. This objection does not apply at all to India’s burgeoning exports of software or BPO, or to the shift of 80,000 IBM jobs or 35,000 Accenture jobs to India.

China has become the world’s biggest supplier of manufactured goods, while India has become a major exporter of computer software, back-office services and R&D. This has transformed the economies of the two most populous countries in the world, made them the fastest-growing in the world, and helped hundreds of millions of poor people to rise out of poverty.

You might think that the Pope would hail this as a great development for humanity. Instead he has parroted the bogus claims of the white labour aristocracy.

His encyclical says, “the so-called outsourcing of production can weaken the company’s sense of responsibility towards the stakeholders---namely the workers, the suppliers, the consumers, the natural environment, and broader society---in favour of the shareholders, who are not tied to a specific geographical area and who therefore enjoy extraordinary mobility.”

The racial implications of this leave me dumbstruck. The Pope has posed the issue as one of stakeholders versus shareholders. But are white stakeholders the only ones that matter? When IBM shifts 80,000 jobs to India, 80,000 Indian stakeholders replace American ones. Are the rights of 80,000 Indian stakeholders any less than those of the American ones they replace? When Chinese suppliers outbid American ones in supplying hardware to IBM, are the Chinese lesser stakeholders than the Americans they replace?

The Pope is simply wrong in posing outsourcing as a conflict between shareholders and stakeholders. Outsourcing merely globalizes stakeholders across the world instead of leaving them within narrow national walls. And as a believer in one world, the Pope should be encouraging this spread of stakeholders across all humanity.

Shareholders are getting globalised no less than workers, suppliers or consumers. Many shareholders of Citibank and IBM come from the Middle East, China or Japan. Are they not stakeholders on par with American ones? There is no moral imperative at all for Japanese or Arab shareholders of IBM to try and shift jobs from the Third World to the US. Yet US politicians and trade unions talk as though morality lies in US jobs alone.

In truth, it is a perversion of morality to penalise non-American workers and shareholders just to promote US jobs. Hopefully Pope Benedict will have the courage to say so in his next encyclical.

In our area, county officials had banned X-mas display. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />
Yesterday in Judge Judy Show, one woman came with her case, She was so called Ambassador to Nagaland and planing to visit India to make documentary on Genocide in Nagaland. Her visa was revoked week after she received her visa from Indian Consulate,San Francisco.

When Ms Collins started speaking her garbage on Nagaland, Judge Judy stopped her and told her stick to case etc. Ms Collins came out very aggressive and arrogant idiot.

Why Indian Embassy issued such visa?

Here is link on Idiot


[url="http://www.nagalim.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=5"] link[/url]
[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/US-to-honour-Mother-Teresa-with-stamp/articleshow/5397544.cms"]US to honour Mother Teresa with stamp[/url]

..The stamp honouring Mother Teresa is expected to be issued on August 26, her 100th birth anniversary.

* Dalit youth alleges he was forced to eat human excreta

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Dindigul (TN), Jan 14 (PTI) In a shocking case of caste discrimination, a dalit has alleged that he was forced to eat human faeces by a group of 'high caste Christians' for walking with chappals in their street in the district.

The dalit youth, in his complaint to Batalagundu police inspector, said "a group of high caste Christians forced human faeces into my mouth after beating me for walking with chappals in their street".

Sadayandi, who is from Indhira Nagar in Meikovilpatti in Dindigul district, claimed the incident occurred on January 7 when a group of more than 10 'caste christians' stopped him and asked if he was not aware of the "order" that dalits should not walk with chappals in their street. Then they asked him to remove his chappals and slapped him with it, he said.

"One of them suggested that I should be fed human excreta.

A different dimension to Indian economy

Quote:India: Over 300 leading Indian industrialists bring Christian values to economy

According to Mendonca, the Christian community has a duty to act within the Indian economy to bring the principles of Christianity to the business world. "Christ was not against wealth and the business world - he says - but He did not admit an immoral or unethical use of money." He urges all employers to use the teachings of Caritas in Veritate by Benedict XVI as a guide to operate in a moral and ethical way in today’s world devoid of values.
AP Hindus try to take Hindu temple back from christogovt into Hindu hands, and get beaten up by christoterrorists in charge. Very important to note is that the term "temple authorities" below refers to the christos who have been placed in charge of the temple by the christogovt. Note also the mention of how the christos controlling the temple have been allowing/enabling the building of christian structures in Hindu Temple to Narasimha.

In TN, the christogovt's cryptochristo committee controlling Hindu temples is called the HRCE. What's it called in AP?


Quote:Supporters of HDPS were beaten by Simhachalam Temple Authorities [color="#800080"](=christogovt appointed terrorists in charge of temples)[/color] in AP

26/01/2010 14:13:38 Press Release

“Stand up, be bold, be strong. Take the whole responsibility on your own shoulders, and know that you are the creator of your own destiny. All the strength and succor you want is within yourself. Therefore make your own future.”

Swami Vivekananda

About two hundred supporters of Hindu Devalaya Parirakshana Samithi accompanied Sri Kamala Kumar Swami to have darshan of Lord Varaha Lakshmi Narasimha Swamy Devasthanam, to become aware of the conditions at the Temple and to find out about a number of issues pertaining to the operation of the Temple management, Goshanal (Cow shed), Temple land usage, construction of more than 40 churches on either encroached lands of the Temple or illegally acquired lands, priest salaries, and missionary activities on the Hill.

These devotees were going in a line by chanting slogans such as [color="#FF0000"]“Endowment Act must be repealed,’’[/color] Government has no business managing Hindu Temples,” “Hindu Temples belong to Hindus,” “Cows should be protected,” “Missionary activities must be stopped”, “encroached lands must be recovered,” and similar slogans.

Sri Kamal Kumar Swami met with Sri Prem Kumar, Executive Officer (EO) of Simhachalam Temple and asked him about the following questions:

1) When does the Temple will recover 3,000 acres that were allowed to be either encroached or illegally sold?

2) Recently the Temple acquired the lands from the tribal’s that were using these Temple lands for their residence for many, many years. When you can remove their houses and recover their lands, what efforts are you making to acquire 3.000 acres occupied by churches?

3) It appears that 47 churches were built on these 3,000 acres land. What are the plans for the Temple and EO to vacate the lands and remove the structures?

4) Why do the Temples are taken over by the government? These Temples belong to Hindus and they should be given back to Hindus?

5) Recently a number of newspapers have reported about the death of cows in the Goshala being operated by Devasthanam. Why is it that many cows are dead when they in the custody of Temple authorities? How are they fed and treated? Is there a veterinary doctor to look after these cows? What is the budget to maintain these cows?

6) What about the salaries of the priests? Are they being paid on a regular basis?

7) Government audit raised a number of concerns about the use of nearly 80 crores of Temple funds under your management? What is the status of the questionable use of these funds?

The supporter also wanted to know the answers to these and other questions. Since the Temple authorities were not able to provide adequate response to these questions, they got irritated and became angry. Then they started abusing the devotees using filthy language.

The Temple authorities stated that these devotees can’t enter the Temple with Omkara flags and chanting slogans. These devotees were stopped about 500 feet away from the main gate (Rajagopuram). Devotees said they will stop at the main gate and also said they are very much aware of maintaining the sanctity and purity of the Temple. They have no problem of observing the rules and the guidelines of the Temple.

The authorities did not like their response and started lathi charge. A number of Temple employees, Temple security force and shop keepers (who depend on government for their contract to do business) started beating mercilessly the defenseless and unarmed devotees with lathis. A number of devotees were injured, some were bleeding, two of them were admitted in the hospital and two others were arrested and later released.

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Published on Deccan Chronicle (http://www.deccanchronicle.com)

Seer disciples clash with temple staff

Visakhapatnam, Jan. 25: A clash broke between Simhachalam temple employees and disciples of Kamal Kumar Swamiji of AP Temple Parirakshana Committee here on Monday. They clashed with lathis and exchanged filthy abuses. One person with severe injuries was shifted to hospital and the Gopalapatnam police arrested a disciple of the Swamiji.

[size="7"]The Swamiji along with his disciples from Vizianagaram, Visakhapatnam and East Godavari [color="#FF0000"]wanted to enter the temple to study illegal structures and activities of Christian missionaries[/color][/size]. They were marching towards the temple raising slogans when the executive officer, Mr P. Prem Kumar, accosted them at the information centre.

While the Swamiji was arguing with the executive officer, his disciples raised slogans against the [color="#800080"](christo-govt appointed crypto-christist)[/color] temple officials. When the Swami asked permission to enter the temple, the EO asked him to stop slogans and wind up their flags.

His followers got enraged and charged the EO why saffron flags would not be allowed inside the temple. Heated arguments ensued and one of the disciples of the Swami attacked the EO.

The incident drew the attention of the local traders, security staff and the employees [color="#800080"](AP has lots of christos and strategically converted crypto-christos and these are all carefully appointed; rather like in TN)[/color] who came in large numbers and chased the disciples out of the temple. While running away from the temple, some of the disciples of the Swami sustained injuries. The employees in the process tore away the beeds necklace of the Swami.

The police rushed to the spot and brought the situation under control.

One of the disciples K. Satyanarayana of Kakinada was taken into custody.

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So very Rome.

When will Hindus learn.

Meanwhile some Hindus continue to eagerly present christianism as better than islamism. It's not, of course. In a competition for "What Has Been More Destructive, Islamism Or Christianism", christianism would always win hands down.
[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Child-traffickers-from-North-East-set-up-base-in-Tamil-Nadu/articleshow/5500852.cms"]Child traffickers from North-East set up base in Tamil Nadu[/url]

CHENNAI: Hundreds of children from the northeastern states are being trafficked by well-networked groups, who have found a safe haven in Tamil Nadu. The rescue of 76 malnourished children, from Manipur and Assam, from a home at Kuzhithurai in Kanyakumari district this week is only the tip of a vast network, which receives crores of rupees from churches and agencies abroad by showing a large number of children under their “care”.

Children from Manipur, especially those belonging to the Kuki tribe, are targeted by traffickers masquerading as evangelists and missionaries as people in the insurgency-hit areas are willing to send off their children if they are promised a good education.


The children aged six to 15 are kept in pathetic conditions and are often made to do jobs like carpentry, cooking and laundry. There have even been cases of children dying under suspicious circumstances and some being molested and abused.

Incidentally, a majority of homes charged with trafficking are run by missionaries or evangelical societies. “These institutions exploit religion to make money. With many of them not registered with the government, the homes escape scrutiny,” says Vidya Reddy of Tulir, Centre for Prevention and Healing of Child Sexual Abuse.
Big mistake. Just declare a military tribunal and have them imprisoned for the next fifty years. Or better yet, stage an encounter with the families of the children.

[url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100201/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_haiti_americans_detained"]Haiti says Baptists may be tried in US[/url]

Quote:Haiti's prime minister said Monday it's clear to him that the 10 U.S. Baptists who tried to take 33 children out of his quake-ravaged country without permission "knew what they were doing was wrong."

But Prime Minister Max Bellerive also told The Associated Press his country is open to having the Americans go before courts in the United States because his own nation's judicial system was devastated by the Jan. 12 earthquake.
Evangelism & Conversion Methods

[url=" http://www.crusadewatch.org/index.php?op...&Itemid=54"]My link[/url]

Missionaries employ various strategies to destroy other religions/cultures and convert people to their religion/denomination. The exact strategy deployed depends on the target population's situation. There are 7 categories of conversion methods: 1)Pre-evangelism 2)Personal Evangelism 3)Preaching Evangelism 4)Persuasion evangelism 5)Pastoral evangelism 6)Programmed evangelism 7)Prayer Evangelism. All the methods employed come under atleast one of these categories though many come under multiple categories. Here is the listing of the prominent methods employed.

* Alluring Children with 'Gifts', 'Toys' & Pizza ( 2 items )

Toys with 'The Message' are given to children as gifts. A cube is very popular among teenagers. EvangeCube -- It's a cube the size of a softball made of eight interlocking blocks that flip and fold into the story of Jesus Christ on some sides and messages from Bible denouncing the native religion. This is very popular in Africa, Russia and Asia. In UK the school children are asked to stuff shoe boxes with a gift to be sent to some African nation. In US evangelicals clandestinely organise Pizza parties in schools.

$1 + Pray Jesus = $10 (Gospel of Wealth) ( 2 items )

Majority of the world is crazy for money & wealth. People are ready to go to any extent to acquire wealth. Church is very successful is exploiting this rage by telling people to donate (called invest) to God (i.e., their Church) and pray. Church claims that God answers their prayers by returning atleast 1000% of what people offer. When people don't get anything in return they are told that their prayers aren't sufficient or $10+prayer will atmost get him/her a bicycle not a Rolls-Royce. This is called the "Health and Wealth" gospel in the U.S.A. - you give the church 10 percent of your gross income, and God is obligated to miraculously provide for you. This idea is big in Mormon and Pentecostal circles, and it's making strong inroads among Baptists and "non-denominational" evangelicals. According to these preachers, if you aren't rich and healthy, it's because you lack faith. Uneducated, impoverished people are willing to try anything to get a good life.

* Abduction/Kidnap ( 5 items )

Abduction was a very popular method employed on tribes. It was Primarily employed on native tribes of Canada, America and Australia. This strategy is still used but at a much smaller scale while ensuring secrecy

Academic/History Rewriting ( 1 items )

This strategy helps in generating a low opinion and delinking natives from their native religions, cultures and traditions. Fredrich Max Muller, Wendy Donniger, Paul Courtright, Jeffrey Kirpal etc are examples of these. Max Muller claimed that "he will write/translate Upanishads in such a way that no Hindu would ever respect them again". Jeffrey Kirpal established an incestuous relationship between Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Vivekananda whereas Paul Courtright calls Hindu Lord Ganesha a oral-sex obsessed character.

A normal Hindu won't call himself a 'proud Hindu' after reading this literature and often becomes an object of ridicule in his society. Though many of these Scholars don't call themselves active missionaries they successfully play part-1 of the missionary game i.e., delinking.

* Alcoholism ( 1 items )

Missionaries brought alcohol and promoted alcoholism to many tribal communities (example Polynesia/Tahiti). The leaders habituated to alcohol did everything what missionaries said losing their entire communities to christianity.

Brainwashing/Hypnosis ( 1 items )

Conversion is a "nice" word for Brainwashing...and any study of brainwashing has to begin with a study of Christian revivalism in eighteenth century America. Apparently, Jonathan Edwards accidentally discovered the techniques during a religious crusade in 1735 in Northampton, Massachusetts. By inducing guilt and acute apprehension and by increasing the tension, the "sinners" attending his revival meetings would break down and completely submit. Technically, what Edwards was doing was creating conditions that wipe the brain slate clean so that the mind accepts new programming. He would tell those attending, "You're a sinner! You're destined for hell!"

* Business/Employment evangelism ( 2 items )

Many Christian employers and employers use employment to lure and many times force a non-Christian into their sect of Christianity.

* Charity, Bribing and Buying souls ( 5 items )

Charity is the most popular technique employed currently. This provides a very secular cover and insulates from all forms of questioning. This is used primarily to place long-term missionaries. They take the form of language teachers, social workers, AIDS/HIV workers etc.

Child Trafficking/Orphanages ( 2 items )

Though there a very few genuine Christian charity orphanages majority of the orphanages springing up today are mainly centres of indoctrination. They believe in the 'Catch them young' principle. Many orphanages claim that they are building the future christian workers.

Christian Ashrams & Sadhus ( 3 items )

Hindus have high respect for Ashrams (Hermitage) and Sadhus (Swamis). Grasping the popularity Christians have started donning saffron robes and look-alike ashrams. Many Hindus get fooled by those outward appearances and become part of these ashrams. A good example is ShantiVanam Ashram run by swindler Fr. Bede Griffiths. The place looks and feels like a Hindu ashram. Fr. Bede Griffiths wears saffron robes, sports a vermillion mark and the entire place reverberates with meditation and chanting. Behold everything they utter is Jesus and Paul.

* Communication Manipulation ( 3 items )

Communication is the key to evangelism. It is not what you say BUT 'HOW YOU SAY'.

Evangelists understand this concept better than anyone else. All the missionaries are trained in Marketing and Journalism. Marketing techniques are used to push their product (Jesus=Salvation; Other religions=Hell). Journalistic techniques are used to spin their stories, manage media and create stories about non-christian religions

* Confrontational Evangelism ( 4 items )

* Contextualization/Inculturation ( 21 items )

Contextualization is the process of adoption the native culture, practices and beliefs to make the non-christians believe that they are not in a different world. It is an infiltration technique. Hindus have 'Mangal sutra', (a special type of chain) as part of the marriage ceremony. Not to be left behind, Christians now offer it's equivalent 'Yesu - Sutra' in the marriages. Every Hindu and Buddhist ritual have copycats now.

* Controlling Influential Powers/Positions ( 9 items )

Evangelicals do not operate as hit-and-run operatives. Their ultimate objective is to control everything in the world. Earlier Church used to control everything including food, dressing, thinking and even sexual positions (allowed only missionary position). Evangelicals in the present day are trying to bring back their 'good-olden-days'. To achieve this they need to hold all the powerful positions whether in Judiciary, Army, Politics or Media. Here is a collection of news articles related to this strategy

* Create Guilt ( 1 items )

This strategy revolves around the idea of blaming the native religion as the source of major problems. In 1975-1976 missionaries failed in all their strategic attempts to convert Panare Indians of the Colorado Valley. The missionaries re-edited the Bible saying "The Panare killed Jesus Christ because they were wicked....God will burn you all, burn all the animals, burn also the earth,the heavens, absolutely everything.He will burn also the Panare themselves.". Panare Indians fealt guilty of their ancestral crime and converted to Christianity to avoid 'Revenge of Jesus'. This is currently being used against Muslims. Muslims are told that Islam is the source of extremism in the world and Muslims should come out of Islam to be guilt-free.

* Creating 'LEFT-BEHIND' fear ( 2 items )

This strategy works wonders on psychologically weak people. Evangelical Christians believe that theirs is the only true religion. They usually ask the non-christians the question of 'What would be their fate in case Christianity is the true religion and native religion is false?'. Evangelicals then describe the fate of non-christians in terms of hell, lake of fire and blood-thirsty 'second coming of Jesus' etc and advise the natives to play safe. Many psychologically weak non-christians want to play safe and convert out of fear of being 'LEFT-BEHIND'

* Denigration and Hate Spreading ( 11 items )

According to Christianity every non-christian religion is a work of Satan and every non-christian worships Satan. These strategies are primarily used to motivate their fellow missionaries and to create ill-will among non-christians about their religion

* Disaster Relief Exploitation ( 8 items )

Missionaries view disasters as a GOD send opportunity. They utilize disasters in two ways

1)Disaster Relief: "This Tsunami(disaster) is one of the greatest opportunities God has given us" says K P Yohannan, President of Gospel for Asia. Many like him do not have objection to taking advantage of hurting and suffering people are going through. In the name of disaster relief the victim's basic needs such as food,clothing, housing, medical needs are provided with a condition that they convert to christianity.

2) Satan Propaganda: Missionaries claim that the disaster stuck their region or village because God is angry with them. GOD is angry because non-christians worship devil and are under Satanic influence. Most of the victims will be psychologically weak and under manipulatable conditions because they lost their family members , property and undergoing depression. According to Southern Baptist Convention's official guide on Evangelism: The motivation behind Southern Baptist Disaster Relief efforts can be summed up in one phrase:?A cup of cold water in Jesus? name.?

* Divide & Conquer(convert) ( 1 items )

This is one of the most popular deceitful techniques employed throughout the missionary history. Differences and enimity among individuals are created or exploited in pitting one group against another. This is very popular among tribals as it is very easy to generate enimity between two clans. The British and American missionaries successfully employed this technique in India by Horizontally and vertically dividing the Indian society into Aryans and Dravidians, Dalits & non-Dalits. The "Missionary Scholars" manufactured theories (without proof) supporting these divisions with the help of some sold-out Indians.

* Education/Schools ( 12 items )

Education is a major strategy proven to work wonders in many poor nations such as Africa, South America whereas it is a partial success in India, Sri Lanka and Pakistan. Education evangelism comes in various shapes and sizes. Primary schools, Vocational training, Nurse training, Music lessons are prominent. In many regions such as Afghanistan and many Islamic countries, Education though didn't help much in direct evangelism but helped missionaries put their foot into unreached regions and establish contacts with people. School work is an excellent mask for evangelical activities.

* Excessive children/Armies of God's soldiers ( 1 items )

Many Christian families produce excessive number of children to be brought up in a different fundamentalist cult like mentality. These kids grown up in such restrictive and conditioned environment are expected to carry forward and impose the fundamentalist mentality they are brought up in. The pastor or father controls everything related to upbringing of the children such as even picking the nail color the kids can use.

* Exorcism ( 4 items )

Catholic church promotes the notion that the negative tendencies in the world are due to Devils(imaginary creatures). How to get rid of Devils?. Catholic church practices an occult medieval practice called Exorcism. When a comman man is in trouble, the local church clandestinely brainwashes the gullible that Devils are source for all the ills and they have the solution called 'Exorcism' to get rid of Satan/Devils. The common man under distress easily falls into this trap

* Exploiting the Prisoners ( 1 items )

Prisoners are usually at the mercy of jail officials. Evangelicals usually take up employment in prisons or befriend prison officials.

* Fear of "End of World" (Acocalypse) ( 3 items )

Missionaries brainwash and instill a fear that 'end-of-the-world' is coming. Missionaries 'guarantee' heaven (as if they own that dreamland) to converts and those who don't convert are cast in the 'Lake of Fire'. Guillible,illiterate and weak fall prey to that concept and convert. Earthquakes and recently Indian Ocean Tsunami were all marketed by missionaries as a'divine wrath and warning from GOD' for not converting

* Fooling non-Christians to do missionary work ( 1 items )

* Fooling people with yigal mesika magic products ( 1 items )

Yigal Mesika makes products such as 'Electric Touch' primarily for magicians. Christianity's origin lies in unnatural and miracles and people, primarily in third world are fooled with these products. People in the developing countries such as Africa, India, Nepal etc., have never heard of these products. Missionaries use these and fool people to think that they have supernatural powers to gain converts.

* Free houses or agricultural land ( 2 items )

Missionaries often buy souls by promising and sometimes providing free housing or agricultural land to poor. In many instances pastors cheat by luring free housing on a future data which never sees light.

* GENOCIDES ( 4 items )

The Vatican-sponsored Croatian Ustashe regime is famous for the death camp records it set during the Nazi genocides. Native tribes of Canada do not have a sympathetic ear. Wiccans, Native Americans, Natives of South America are a few examples

* Government support ( 2 items )

Many repressive states around the world force people to choose the religions they recognize. South Korea, China, Indonesia, Russia are some such countries. Earlier a converted ruler used to force the entire population to change the religion.

* Healing ( 5 items )

This is a major fraud committed on weak minds.Benny Hinn is a modern-leader in this field

* Luring students with on campus programmes ( 1 items )

Many evangelical groups such as 'Campus Crusade' organize sports events, study programmes, study-abroad programmes, free books etc to convert people. Converts get special benefits as on-site coordinators, scholarships etc which are very tempting to impoverished students.

* Marriage/Family Pressure ( 3 items )

This is a very popular technique among middle-class families. In a marriage involving a non-christian bride (often against her family's wishes), the christian family assures that they do no have any objection with girl's religion. Within weeks of marriage the christian family declares that the girl's religion is not acceptable to them giving the newly wed girl two options i.e., conversion to christianity or divorce. In order to save her marriage the girl often converts. Many marriage counsellors in India report a significant rise in such cases. Unable to bear the torture in many instances the girl commits suicide. Read the experiences of Sanal Edamaraku.

* Medical/Hospital Evangelism ( 3 items )

Evangelism in hospitals and by medical staff is a very popular mechanism in under-developed or developing countries. Usually patients and their family would be in a state of distress and ready to do anything to get out the hardship. Hospital staff exploit this weakness and convert people fooling them that conversion would help them recover lost health

* MINI/MICRO LOANS ( 1 items )

A very popular technique among sub-urban regions wherein the pastor/father gives a small amount as a loan. Ofter the native is asked to repay when he is not in a position to payback (ex: crop dumpling phase etc). The other option given to the farmer is conversion to christianity.

* Miracles & Miracle-boxes ( 7 items )

"Come to church and get the miracle you need" is the slogan representing this traditional game. Presently the game of Miracles is very popular in third world countries and tribal regions. The primary condition for Vatican to anoint somebody a saint is 'Proof of Miracles'. In poor regions a missionary asks people to write their wishes like bicycle, casette player, bullock cart on a piece of paper and put in the wish-box. A week after the Church from West with slush funds fulfils 'those' miracles. Intelligensia, rational and educated in west are abandoning church partly due to such cheap games.

* Music training & Programmes ( 2 items )

Give me the music of a nation, and I will change the mind of that nation. said Plato.

Almost everybody in the world appreciates some form of music. Evangelicals are very successful in 'Music Evangelism' wherein they lure population by offering free guitar lessons and training in western dance and music in return for conversion. High-school and college going youth are particularly vulnerable to this strategy.

* PERSECUTION GAME ( 5 items )

Missionaries always keep up the ante that 'Christians around the world are persecuted because of their beliefs'. Are Christians really persecuted in India? Persecution game is played to gain sympathy, extract dollars from western sources and ward off any potential opposition to their sinster activity. Part of this process was creation of USCIRF (US Commission for Internation Religious Freedom) which is supposed to monitor persecution of christians around the world but it won't look at the heinous crimes committed by christians. Check All India Christian Council (the nodal organisation of all christian entities). The website is titled 'Christian Persecution IndiaPaul Kurtz analyses the movie The Passion was made as a political weapon.

* Police and Police Stations ( 1 items )

Police and Police stations are fast becoming agents of conversion. Police threaten the society to convert or face the brunt.

* Promoting political activities ( 1 items )

Evangelicals form political groups or atleast a pressure group. Sensing the power of such groups that too the ones supported by western powers many more people convert into Christianity for their personal and political gains. South Korea is a text book for this practice.

* Public Relations(PR) Campaigns ( 5 items )

If there is anybody in the world who mastered the art of Public Relations (PR), it is the Western Church. They remain unscathed irrespective of the magnitude of crimes and genocides they commit. Their public relations engine works throughout the day. Due to their PR campaigns many people develop a larger than life view of missionaries and fall prey to their nefarious activities.

* Scaring with Hell house/fear evangelism ( 2 items )

Christian-themed haunted houses/hell-houses are very popular in US. According to a conversative estimate there are atleast 1000 such houses in US. These houses are extremely graphic and reverberate with scary sounds reproducing Christian definition of Hell. These houses serve dual purpose ie., income generation through ticket sales and bringing in more converts as many convert due to fear.

* Scripture Manipulation ( 3 items )

Evangelicals are masters in manipulating their scriptures as well as non-christian scriptures. They are promoting and funding theories that Hinduism evolved (though 5000+ years old) evolved from Christianity, Buddhism civilized itself by adapting Christian thoughts and Islam was created by Vatican Church to promote it's vested interests.

* Terrorism & Militancy ( 8 items )

North-East India is a living example of Church sponsored terrorism. Tribals who refused to convert to Christianity are massacred. Baptist Church of Nagaland is the command centre of terrorism in Nagalim i.e., "Nagaland for Christ"
^ All the above.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world:


Lord told woman to drown newborn son

Was it the defence that's trying to blame it on her being high or something? But - since they're into finding excuses now anyway - the foremost and most acceptable one is that it was all the fault of The Holy Spook she was possessed with. Everyone: Blame the holy spook (which is gawd which is jeebus - I refer you to the "trinitarian doctrine" for this. That's why she instantly recognised that it was the Lawd Gawd that wanted her baby dead, and which is why the sheep followed the commandment).
Quote:Participants this week were guardedly optimistic (at best!) about the potential for significantly disrupting and transforming gender relations following natural disasters.

The possibilities for change were not in question. Most would certainly agree with Bahattin Aksit's observation from Turkey that "as physical and social space collapse" during disasters, "there is an opportunity for transforming gender roles and maintaining them in the post-disaster period." Indeed, several instances were offered of positive change. From Armenia, the NGO Women and Development targeted rural women for grassroots health education, capitalizing on the period after a major earthquake to provide more knowledge, skills, and resources to women as family health providers. Perhaps more significantly, Armine Mikayelyan and her colleagues noted (Armenia), the post-disaster period helped break women's traditional silence around health issues related to male migration, such as sexually-transmitted diseases. Because rural women were explicitly targeted for training, they were not only more able to keep families healthy but "became surer and saw themselves as part of their problem's solution."

Indian women, too, reportedly gained self-confidence following gender-sensitive relief measures targeting women:

Disasters can be great liberators!! While witnessing a very vocal meeting of rural women in village Srirampur, Orissa, about a year and a half after the cyclone of 1999, I was informed by the NGO there (Church's Auxiliary for Social Action) that before the cyclone, women would rarely come out and interact on social issues, let alone interact with outsiders. This changed after the cyclone, because relief packages of most NGOs, and even the government, were targeted at, or through, women. That phase really empowered them, made them amenable to interacting on social issues, and also increased their self-esteem and their status within their families and society! [Anshu Sharma, SEEDS, India]

Self-help income-generating measures following South Asian cyclones] started a new social system, wherein the position of women is higher than it ever was. This appears to have been well accepted by everyone. Also important here is the role of an Indian Constitutional Amendment reserving one-third of seats in elected local governments (rural and urban) for women. Though there have been teething problems in the process, there is promise of a very positive impact. [Anshu Sharma, SEEDS, India]



Quote:christist church-managed genocide: Your Crime is Not Diminished by Time, or Apology

feb 7th, 2010

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Your Crime is Not Diminished by Time, or Apology

Why Nothing has Changed for Victims of Church Torture, or for the Victimizers

By Rev. Kevin D. Annett

"Its worse now, because I m supposed to be healed. They get away with everything and Im still here on the corner." -- Bingo, a homeless native survivor of Catholic Indian Residential schools, Vancouver, August 10, 2009

Here in Canada, I have an odd deja vu feeling these days that I'm working again on the Intensive Ward of the UBC Psychiatric Hospital, except somehow the patients have taken over.

It's a feeling that's reinforced whenever a smiling government or church official announces that the residential school era has "finally found closure" now that a few words have been uttered, and a bit of money thrown around. Somehow, these guys mistakenly believe that their liability and guilt as been diminished by their lawyers.

To stay sane, I stay close to people like Bingo and the many thousands of others who imagine they survived the electric shocks, the beatings, the sodomizing and starvation and tortures that were daily residential school life. It was official policy in Canada to destroy innocent children. [color="#FF0000"]Probably one hundred thousand children died at the hands of priests and nuns and other clergy, and their minions[/color], many of whom still walk around free.

[color="#0000FF"]"Then I saw the priest take that little baby and throw him into the furnace. I heard a little cry and heard his body go pop in the flames. We weren't ever supposed to tell."[/color]

Irene Favel saw the burning alive of a newborn baby in the summer of 1944, not in Auschwitz, but in Lestock, Saskatchewan, at the Muscowequan Catholic Indian school. And she described it live on a national CBC television broadcast on July 3, 2008.

After the broadcast, no-one protested, save a handful. No outraged editorials responded with passion or appeal. No church official was ever charged or brought to trial.

[color="#0000FF"]In May of this year, an aboriginal woman named Charlotte Stewart and her sister Beryl held a press conference in Vancouver where they described watching their sister Vicky, age nine, get murdered in Edmonton by a United Church residential school employee named Ann Knizky.[/color]

"We want the United Church held responsible" said Charlotte to the two reporters who showed up.

"We want this woman brought to trial and the church to admit what happened. Vicky needs a memorial site so she won't be forgotten."

The church said all the predictably correct words, in a letter to Charlotte a month later, written only after the Stewarts threatened church officials with a lawsuit. But no-one is being held responsible, and the police are refusing to investigate.

[color="#0000FF"]On a national scale, this protection of perpetrators has been guaranteed by the Canadian government's refusal to bring criminal charges against the churches for their killing of all those children. And the same guilty churches have even helped to choose the "Truth and Reconciliation" commissioners who will pretend to "investigate" the residential schools while promising that no names will be named or wrongdoing reported.

This kind of miscarriage of justice is called "healing and reconciliation" in Canada.[/color]

I won't ask the obvious question anymore, which is how can church and state get away so easily with such a huge and monstrous crime. We know exactly how. The question is not even why might makes right, or how religion can sanctify murder, for history teaches us why.

[color="#800080"](Yes: because the non-existent jeebus willed it so.)[/color]

[quote name='dhu' date='04 February 2010 - 07:07 AM' timestamp='1265246973' post='103889']

Big mistake. Just declare a military tribunal and have them imprisoned for the next fifty years. Or better yet, stage an encounter with the families of the children.

[url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100201/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_haiti_americans_detained"]Haiti says Baptists may be tried in US[/url]


more people are involved now, lets see how Hillary will coverup this scandal.
Was this posted already?


Quote:Humnabad church attack: police arrest pastor

feb 9th, 2010

how christists manufacture grievances.

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From: sri

Humnabad church attack: police arrest pastor


Special Correspondent

Police say the accused hired three goons to vandalise the church

After the attack: A file photo of the Humnabad church in Bidar

district which was attacked by miscreants on November 17.

BIDAR: The Bidar district police Thursday claimed to have solved the

case of an attack on a church in Humnabad town in Bidar district on

November 17 with the arrest of a former pastor of the church and three

hired goons
who allegedly attacked the church.

Superintendent of Police Satish Kumar in a press statement said here

that the main accused, Vasant, who was the pastor of the Humnabad

church till June this year before his transfer to a church at

Basantpur in Chincholi taluk in Gulbarga district had conspired to

damage the church with the hope that the church authorities would

cancel his transfer and keep him in Humnabad.

[color="#0000FF"]Mr. Kumar said the investigation revealed that the accused

[color="#800080"](that is, the christian pastor)[/color] had taken

the help of B. Sunil, S. Mallikarjun Swamy and S. Manjunath, all

belonging to Humnabad town, to damage the church with a promise of

paying them Rs. 10,000. According to Mr. Kumar, the main accused had

already paid Rs. 1,000 as advance to the trio for carrying out the


[color="#0000FF"]The attack[/color], which had embarrassed the district administration and the

police, [color="#0000FF"]had caused quite a stir among the Christians who wanted the

Government to take immediate action against those responsible for the

attack.[/color] Furniture, electrical fittings in the main prayer hall and the

cross on the dome of the church were damaged. [color="#0000FF"]The Opposition parties

such as the Congress and the Janata Dal (Secular) had also joined the

Christians in demanding action against those responsible for the


[color="#800080"](And now action has been taken: they've arrested the christian

pastor and his hired chums.)[/color]

Mr. Kumar said that a special team of police officers, headed by

Additional Superintendent of Police Thyagarajan and Circle Inspectors

M.H. Satish, working in Humnabad police station and James Menenzis

working in Raichur, was formed to solve the case. The team questioned

several persons and finally the pastor. [color="#FF0000"]The accused revealed the names

of the three people he had hired to attack the church.[/color]

[color="#800080"](So the facts have been revealed by none less than the criminal christian, the pastor, itself.)[/color]

Posted by nizhal yoddha at 2/09/2010 10:14:00 PM 0 comments Links to this post

maybe a image make more then 1000 words

see the movie Agora.
I don't know why HK's nationalists are so surprised.

(And of course there's a christist in the comments arguing for why it's all free speech and trying to turn the actual issue into something irrelevant entirely.)

Quote:Kerala Christians Denigrating National Flag and National Anthem

03/02/2010 16:55:06 HK

After denigrating Hindus and Hinduism , Missionaries had gone a step further now they ridicules our National Flag and National Anthem. If Jihadis are blunt in their game plan Missionaries are more wicked and crooked and stabs you from back, when given a chance.

Following two Videos clearly exposes their true colours. In the first video Christian Pentacost Pastor K A Abraham from Sharon Fellowship Church in Thiruvalla denigrates the National flag. According to this clown's interpretation Saffron stands for violence, Green colour to neo rich (Refering to Rich Muslims in Kerala following gulf boom) and finally he boasts that the white colour in the Tricolour denotes Christianity for its peaceful nature.And for the entertainment of the traitors sitting there he continues- The Asoka Chakra the symbol of power was kept in the centre of Christianity that is white and to add more for his imagination Asoka means Without Sorrow and for those hapless souls sitting there they should praise their lord jesus and come to White That is Christianity!

Needless to say no Government agencies, not even any Hindu organisation had yet filed a criminal case against this traitor who sells his Nation to gain couple of dollars from the whites.

As no action was reported against this criminal more and more poisonous snakes now started to creep out from their holes and started showing their true colours. Here in this following Video, A Christian function is concluded by singing a parody of our National Anthem Jana Gana Mana. In the song they praises John Paul 2nd and Jesus as their lord.

Only sensible comment there (every other Hindu got sucked into the diversion/interfaith dialogue of the christist on "freedom to screech"):

Quote: S

04/02/2010 02:42:12 Cult of christianity

What do you expect from christians ? These people have mass-murdered in Europe, North America, South America, Asia and Africa. You seriously think that they will respect your flag or that you are a special case ?

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