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BJP Future - 7
One camp is Jaswant Singh, Yashwant Sinha and Rajnath Singh

The other camp is LK Advani, Arun Jaitley, Sushma Swaraj.

Arun and Sushma are in a tussle to go for the President of BJP

Arun SHourie is in between the two camps

This split could happen in the next 2-3 mths
<b>BJP will take action against all Jinnah supporters: Rajnath</b>
2009-09-06 19:50:00
Last Updated: 2009-09-06 20:49:19

Singh said, "If anyone dares to praise Mohammed Ali Jinnah, who was responsible for the partition of our country, along with all the horrific incidents that followed, strict action will be taken against them."

RSS blames Advani for poll debacle

Speaking at a workers conference, the saffron leader said his party has ideological differences on the Founder of Pakistan.

Jaswant Singh was recently expelled from the party, after his book 'Jinnah: India, Independence, Partition' created a furore in party circles.

BJP is paying for 'sins' of leaders: Lalu

With assembly elections scheduled for October 13 in Haryana, Singh accused the Congress government in the state and Centre for failing to control the price rise.

He alleged that prices of essential commodities rose whenever there was a Congress-led government at the Centre.

He claimed that the NDA government had checked price rise during its rule between 1998 and 2004.

Latest news: Raahul Mahajan to premier on reality show Rahul Mahajan ka Swayamvar. Chalta hai class, future India youth.
<!--QuoteBegin-dhu+Sep 19 2009, 09:10 AM-->QUOTE(dhu @ Sep 19 2009, 09:10 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Latest news: Raahul Mahajan to premier on reality show Rahul Mahajan ka Swayamvar.  Chalta hai class, future India youth.
When parents fails, they have product like Rahul Mahajan.
From Pioneer, 23 Sept., 2009

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NATION | Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | Email | Print |

<b>Shekhawat advises Jaswant to go for rapprochement</b>

Lokpal Sethi | Jaipur

Expelled BJP leader Jaswant Singh appeared to be a disappointed man as veteran BJP leader and former Vice-President of India Bhairon Singh Shekhawat advised him not to think in terms of not returning to the party.

Jaswant met Shekhawat with some of his followers on Tuesday to seek the former Vice-President’s advice and through him the support of the Rajput community.

<b>Though Shekhawat agreed that the expulsion of Jaswant from the party was unfortunate, he urged him to adopt a reconciliatory approach, instead of sticking to the stand that he would not go back to the party. “One should not take such kind of political decisions personally and should remain open to the changing situation,” Shekhawat said.</b>

But soon after his meeting with Shekhawat,<b> Jaswant said that there was no question of his going back to the BJP.</b> “Today neither I nor any one from my family, including my son Mavender, is in BJP,” he said. <b>He said that the expulsion from the party, which he had served for more than three decades, had hurt him so much that he could not think of rejoining the party.</b>

When his attention was drawn to the statement of senior BJP leader, LK Advani that he was against the expulsion of Jaswant from the party, Jaswant said, “I would not like to react on it.” He denied rumours that he was joining the Congress and said at this point of time he was not member of any political party.

<b>Accompanied by former Minister and senior BJP legislator Devi Singh Bhati, Jaswant said he would spend the next six days in the State to tour Jodhpur, Jaisalmer and Barmer, where he would meet fellow Rajput colleagues and address some meetings. During the meeting, Jaswant was joined by Bhagwan Singh Rolsahabsar, convener of Pratap Foundation, influential social organisation of Rajputs in the State.</b>


Google Cache on News stories about LKAji seeking retirement

WHy have the Swamiji leak the news or is it pre-emptive move by the Swamiji to ensure the news is read?
Or force him to resign before his another yatra.
She and Jaitely are now for top position.
Advani had expressed his desire immediately after elections to step down but he was requested to stay. His exit from the scene may consolidate leader of opposition position into Sushma's hands. I don't think Jaitley gets anything more than what he has. as far as BJP is concerned, it can takeover as ruling party if it's competitive in South.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>To cut ice with voters, BJP to use Vajpayee appeal</b>
PTI | New Delhi

After the absence of former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee cost the party dear in the Lok Sabha elections, BJP has decided to come out with an appeal to the voters from the ailing leader on Tuesday and harness it liberally in the three poll-bound States.

"Vajpayee will issue an appeal to the voters of Maharashtra, Haryana and Arunachal Pradesh on behalf of BJP tomorrow. Our spokesperson Prakash Javadekar and I will call on him in this regard," BJP election in-charge Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi told PTI.

Naqvi said though he was still not aware of what the appeal would be, the probability of a letter from the veteran leader to the electorate could not be ruled out. In some of the recent elections, Vajpayee has issued appeals to the voters through letters and a section of the party still swears by the sway he has among the people.

The appeal will include old clippings of Vajpayee's speeches (both audio and video), sources said.

<b>Vajpayee, 85, is suffering from heart-related ailments.</b>
<!--emo&:ind--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/india.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='india.gif' /><!--endemo--> The BJP found unexpected support from the CPI(M) a day after it made public a letter to the prime minister's office (PMO) in which India's ambassador to the US, Meera Shankar, accused some US companies of having paid bribes in India.

The CPI(M) demanded that the government investigate and take action against officials who allegedly took bribes from these US firms. Expressing concern, the CPI(M) politburo demanded that all US firms involved in giving bribes should be blacklisted and the persons who received bribes identified and punished.

<b>BJP may need surgery, says RSS chief Bhagwat</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh chief Mohan Bhagwat, who had asked the top Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] leadership to sort out problems in the wake of Lok Sabha debacle, on Tuesday seemed to suggest that the party may need a 'surgery' or even 'chemotherapy' treatment, a view rejected by BJP chief Rajnath Singh.

"<b>As far as BJP is concerned, whatever surgery, medicine, chemotherapy is essential for them, it has to be diagnosed by them (BJP),"</b> he told media persons in Jaipur  .

Bhagwat said, <b>"If they (BJP) need any organisational help, if they ask for it, we will provide them help".</b>

Asked if the party needed a 'surgery', BJP chief Rajnath Singh said, "Not at all, who says that?"

However, senior <b>BJP leader Murli Manohar Joshi  said, "The doctor can only talk about treatment, we are patients."</b>

Replying to questions, Bhagwat said RSS was not responsible for the sorry state of affairs in BJP.

On the defiance shown by former chief minister Vasundhara Raje, who resigned from the post of Leader of the Opposition nine weeks after being asked to step down, Bhagwat said it was for BJP and its leadership to find a solution.

On the issue of 'Marathi manoos', which was a key issue during the Maharashtra polls, the RSS chief said, <b>"Every Indian belongs to India. There are various languages and religions, which have their own identity. Hindutva for us is considering them as part of one (entity) and we do not believe in things like Marathi pride.</b>"<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Advani, Bhagwat discuss BJP succession plan</b>
Kumar Uttam | New Delhi
RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat called on senior BJP leader LK Advani here on Wednesday to discuss what sources say was the much-hyped “succession plan” for the party struggling to come to terms with the recent electoral defeats.

While the fine print of what transpired in the almost two-hour long one-on-one luncheon meeting between the two could not be known, sources close to these leaders admitted “specific matters” were taken up for discussion.

The “succession plan” would mean LK Advani and Rajnath Singh stepping down as LoP in the Lok Sabha and BJP president respectively. Those privy to developments taking place within the Parivar told The Pioneer that it was “almost certain” that Sushma Swaraj would be elevated as Leader of the Opposition in the LS after Advani steps down.

Media has speculated a lot on the timing of Advani’s stepping down but there has not been any official word from either the leader or his party. The RSS had earlier suggested that the timing has to be decided by Advani himself.

<b>Senior BJP leader Murli Manohar Joshi was also reportedly interested in stepping into Advani’s shoes, but sources say the RSS has sounded out to him that he would instead be getting a “respectful position” in the NDA setup.</b>

<b>But “discussions” are still on within the BJP and the Sangh to choose among from a panel of “three or four leaders” who would take over from Rajnath Singh as party chief in January, when the incumbent’s term comes to an end</b>. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Regarding the Karnataka developments

I support Yedi

It is a sad day when business tycoons are able to topple a popular CM

It is even more sad that 50% of the BJP MLAs who are supposed to be of good values system have been bribed by the Reddy brothers
who are supported by Jaganmohan Reddy
<b>Ananth Kumar fuelled the Karnataka crisis

In a new twist to the Karnataka's BJP crisis, there are worries in the top party leadership that one of them might be behind the revolt by the Reddy brothers.

On Sunday, one faction of the BJP leaked information about the mystery man.

According to the revelations:
At 12.30 am on October 25 - the mystery man met key rebel Janardhan Reddy.
At 8.47 am - took a chartered flight, owned by a Congress MLA, to Hubli.
He then met Karnataka Assembly Speaker Jagdish Shettar, who is representing rebels lead by Reddy brothers.

Top level BJP sources identify the man as Ananth Kumar, the former Union minister.

Meanwhile, those backing Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa on Sunday met senior BJP leaders L K Advani, Rajnath Singh and Sushma Swaraj.

Karnataka Speaker Jagadish Shettar also met the man who has been mediating on the crisis, Arun Jaitley and MP Ananth Kumar.

The BJP government in Karnataka spun into a crisis after the Reddy brothers, Janardhana and Karunakara Reddy, demanded Chief Minister Yeddyrurappa's ouster, claiming they have the support of 60 of the BJP's 117 MLAs.

However, Yeddyurappa supporters have told the BJP top brass that if the rebels have the numbers so does the chief minister.

"There will be no change in leadership in Karnataka. We have conveyed to the party leaders," said Sadanand Gowda, BJP Karnataka president.

The action shifted to Delhi after attempts by Arun Jaitley, sent to Bangalore to tackle the rebels, failed.

The rebel Reddy brothers are also continuing to target Yeddyurappa in public.

"Our senior is lying and cheating the people. If I even mention his name this function (Rajyotsav function) will be sullied," said Janardhan Reddy.

The rebels are expected in Delhi on Monday. And there's a faction in the BJP ready to do business with them.

Till Saturday, it was Yeddyurappa vs the Reddy brothers in Bangalore. Now the BJP's Karnataka trouble has arrived in delhi. And worse is the fact that the rift there is threatening to widen the divide between L K Advani and Rajnath Singh.

The first BJP government in South India is in self-destruction mode. The Reddy brothers oppose Yeddyurappa's style of functioning, and want a CM of their choice. This is working along the faultlines in the central BJP.

The Advani camp, that includes Anant Kumar, Venkaiah Naidu and Sushma Swaraj, are opposed to Yeddyurappa. They may support Speaker Jagdish Shettar as the next Chief Minister. But Rajnath and the RSS back Yeddyurappa, who denies there is a crisis.

"There are no differences in Karnataka BJP," said Yeddyurappa.

The BJP cannot encourage or ignore rebels. But one thing seems certain, Yeddyurappa's authority is set to decline, something that may disappoint Karnataka's powerful Lingayat caste and please the Congress.

Should brahmins be removed from BJP direct line leadership
Ananthkumar in Karnataka, Ganesan in TN, all incompetent over-ambitious
not realising that they control only 3% of the vote bank

Whereas Yedi controls 18% Lingayat vote bank

I am thinking that they should be retained only in advisory role like Shourie

From PTI, 5 Nov 2009

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->BJP flak for Jaswant’s Patna plea
Patna, Nov. 4 (PTI): Two days after expelled BJP leader Jaswant Singh admitted that he was “opposed” to L.K. Advani’s rath yatra and the party’s move to forge an alliance with Shiv Sena in Maharashtra, party leader Shahnawaz Hussain today rubbished the comments saying it held “no merit”.

“These comments have no merit. Jaswantji, who I respect a lot, never voiced opposition at any level in the party against our leader, Advani’s, rath yatra,” Hussain told reporters here.

“Jaswantji also did not utter a word about the party aligning with the Sena in Maharashtra,” he said.

<b>On November 2, the former external affairs minister at a release of the Urdu translation of his controversial book Jinnah, Partition and Independence had said that he had strongly disfavoured Advani’s rath yatra and had also opposed the party’s move to tie-up with Shiv Sena in Maharashtra.</b>

Referring to Jaswant’s advocacy for Muslims, <b>Hussain said: “I have never heard Jaswantji raise issues related to Muslims when he was in the party... BJP has done a lot for him and instead of working for its interests, he wrote a book. The party rewarded him with posts, and in return, he should have shown interest in its growth.”</b>  <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->


I think a new party is in the making. Recall Baba Ramdev visiting Deoband.

most of these rebel MLAs are from constituencies still flooded. but if the numbers of these MLAs are close to what is reported, people will teach bjp a lesson, not just the MLAs. yedi should leave bjp now and form his party.
How many lessons will be taught? Is it really about lessons or about back stabbbing and interfering with the electoral process. In the end they will make it easy for outsiders to come as they fight among themselves. And those who wish to teach BJP a lesson should bear that in mind.

Its clear some one is backing the rebels to de-stabilize/de-legitimize the CM. Why?

The Karnataka case is a very good example to study. The people voted for BJP under Yeddy's leadership due to JDS perfidy and the idea that BJP should get a chance to provide governance. This is now being thwarted. And its due to the group dynamics.

So let me ask the questions?

Whats the story for this crisis?

Pioneer op-Ed 6 nov 2009

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No end to BJP’s troubles

Kalyani Shankar

The crisis in Karnataka can only be resolved if the BJP’s central leadership is decisive. The party must save the Government in this southern State no matter what it takes.

<b>Why is the BJP unable to deal with its Chief Ministers from Kalyan Singh to Uma Bharti to BS Yeddyurappa?</b> The party had to replace then Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Kalyan Singh because he refused to change his style of functioning despite warnings from the central leadership. But the NDA was in power then and the leadership was strong at the central level.

<b>Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi does not like any interference in the affairs of his State. Former Rajasthan Chief Minister Vasundhara Raje also refused to change her style of functioning despite complaints from the BJP local unit and the RSS.</b> She continued her defiance when she dilly-dallied about resigning from her position as the BJP’s legislative party leader. <b>Now the BJP is faced with the same problem with a powerful section in Karnataka rebelling against Chief Minister BS Yeddyurappa and is on a ‘oust Yeddyurappa mission’.</b> The sad story is that despite getting a foothold in the south for the first time, the BJP is unable to manage the State on account of its own problems.

<b>The present crisis is mainly due to mismanagement and the ego trip of Mr Yeddyurappa and the rebels led by the powerful Reddy brothers of Bellary who are Ministers in his Cabinet. The tussle is for control over the prosperous mineral rich Bellary region and more clout in the Government.</b>

Mr Yeddyurappa, who should have noticed the signs of unrest, should have taken steps to nip it in the bud. On the contrary, he allowed things to simmer that today his own position is shaky. <b>The Reddy brothers have acquired clout because of their ability to fund several legislators during elections and these legislators owe their loyalty to them and not to the party.</b> The dissidents are <b>attacking the Chief Minister and his close associate Panchayati Raj Minister Shoba Karandlaje </b>for interference in other Ministries. It <b>reminds one of then Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Kalyan Singh and the alleged influence of his close associate Kusum Rai.</b>

<b>The crisis in Karnataka is also due to the State-level rivalry between BJP general secretary Anant Kumar and Mr Yeddyurappa. In the Brahmin-Lingayat power struggle, it was Lingayat leader Yeddyurappa who won the battle. The party decided to keep Mr Anant Kumar at the centre, leaving the State to Mr Yeddyurappa.</b> With the loyalists accusing Mr Kumar of engineering the present revolt in the State Cabinet, apparently this formula has not worked well.

One of the reasons for the delay in resolving the present crisis is also due to the fact that <b>the BJP central leadership is weak. BJP chief Rajnath Singh is a lame duck president and is on his way out. Leader of the Opposition LK Advani is not as strong as he used to be when a word from him was considered law. Former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee is out of the political scene.</b> The second-rung leadership is fighting for the cake. In such a situation, the State legislators are not ready to listen to the central leaders.

<b>It is money that speaks as most of the rebels had won their seats with the help of the powerful Reddy brothers and what they say they will follow. With a weak leadership at the centre as well as in the State, it is only natural for the crisis to continue.</b>

<b>Mr Jagan Mohan Reddy, son of late Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister YS Rajasekhara Reddy has also emerged as a player if one goes by the rumours</b>. Insiders say that he, being the business partner of the Reddy brothers, has a lot of influence with them and <b>is keen to destabilise the Yeddyurappa Government.</b>

<b>The first priority for the BJP is to save the Government, irrespective of whether Mr Yeddyurappa remains or goes.</b> So the crisis has to be resolved with a give-and-take attitude. <b>The new formula should include keeping Mr Anant Kumar away from meddling in the affairs of the State. Using the influence of Ms Sushma Swaraj with the Reddy brothers may keep them under check. Ms Swaraj has been nursing Bellary since she fought and lost elections from there. Clipping the wings of Panchayati Raj Minister Shoba Karandlaje may mollify the dissidents. The Chief Minister should undertake a Cabinet reshuffle to maintain a balance and also address the concerns of the rebels. The Reddy brothers should be mollified and Yeddyurappa should do everything in his power to restore the balance.</b>


Looks like this article clears a lot of doubts. The catalyst appears to be Mr Kumar deciding to meddle with the CM.
<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Nov 2 2009, 08:01 AM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Nov 2 2009, 08:01 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Should brahmins be removed from BJP direct line leadership
Ananthkumar in Karnataka, Ganesan in TN, all incompetent over-ambitious
not realising that they control only 3% of the vote bank

Whereas Yedi controls 18% Lingayat vote bank

I am thinking that they should be retained only in advisory role like Shourie
It can be definitely tried in TN. Ganesan did not deliver the goods last time. In 2014 BJP (or BJP like) party has to get more votes than they have got so far. Considering that Karunanidhi will be either gone or just an ailing King, BJP has to push hard. I would be happy if it gets at least 25% of MP seats - that is about 9 or 10. No harm in trying a non-brahmin in TN.

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