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About this again:
In order to find this (unterminated) direct quote that Lokesh Chandra attributed to the Avatamsaka Sutra,
Googled for:
- "it has woods, it has streams, and tanks"
- "it has woods, it has streams"
The search results for the former are a subset of the latter (well obviously) and so am pasting the search results for the 2nd one. For completeness, these are all the search results as of the current period, including what Google says are "similar" ones.
What it shows is actually interesting:
- None of the search results lead to the actual text of the Avatamsaka Sutra
- All search results lead to what Rajeev Srinivasan had written. Note that Rajeev wrote his Rediff article on December 31, 1997 (as seen from if you view the HTML source on the page). Compare this with the visible dates for all the bloggers in the above.
- Note also that Rajeev is the one who used 2 x '' (two times singlequotes) preceding the word Potalaka in his article, instead of doublequotes. And all the search results contain just that version: 2 singlequotes.
- In other words: everyone else all got the statement not from Lokesh's book, but from Rajeev. They're quoting Rajeev - as their source, as "evidence" for "Shabarimalai=Buddhist". (Unless Rajeev had copied and pasted the Lokesh quote too, 2 x singlequotes and all, from some online forum himself). Rajeev's become their authoritative source on what his authority Lokesh Chandra had claimed.
- So the source for the propagation of the subversion on the internet that "Shabarimalai=Buddhist" is... not even Lokesh Chandra but... Rajeev Srinivasan. He could have used his influence for spreading facts instead of irresponsible rumour-mongering based on Lokesh's mere (and bad) speculations.
About this again:
Quote:[Lokesh Chandra in his book The Thousand-Armed Avalokitesvara:] The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: "Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks, and is in fact a sort of earthly paradise. Buddhabhadra (A.D. 420) calls Kuan-yin mountain Kuangming or 'Brilliance', which is usually given as the rendering for Malaya, but a later translator, ShikShAnanda, transcribes the name Potalaka" (Watters 1905:2.231)
In order to find this (unterminated) direct quote that Lokesh Chandra attributed to the Avatamsaka Sutra,
Googled for:
- "it has woods, it has streams, and tanks"
- "it has woods, it has streams"
The search results for the former are a subset of the latter (well obviously) and so am pasting the search results for the 2nd one. For completeness, these are all the search results as of the current period, including what Google says are "similar" ones.
What it shows is actually interesting:
Quote:The Buddhist Connection - Rediff.com
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... 'The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''
Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
India Archaeology - Groups - Yahoo
https: // groups.yahoo.com/group/IndiaArchaeology/message/8208
... 'The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''
Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
India Archaeology - Groups - Yahoo
https: // groups.yahoo.com/group/IndiaArchaeology/message/8218ââ¬Å½ Cached
... 'The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''
Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
The Legend of Vavar - Yahoo Groups
https: // groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/.../topics/8184 ââ¬Å½Cached
... 'The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''
Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
Shadow Warrior: for makara sankranti, an old column of mine from ...
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13 Jan 2012 ... ... the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''...
Buddhabhadra's (AD 420) rendering of Potala (or Potalaka) is ''Brilliance.
The Buddhist Connection: Sabarimala and the Tibetans | Sulekha ...
creative.sulekha.com/the-buddhist-connection-sabarimala-and-the-tibetans_ 323345_blogââ¬Å½ Cached
'The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''
Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
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... Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''Potalaka is on the sea-
side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
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... Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''Potalaka is on the sea-
side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
The Legend of Vavar - Yahoo Groups
https: // beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/.../8184ââ¬Å½ Cached
... 'The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''
Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
ALTER EGO: AYYAPPAN (AKA) SASTHA (AKA) AYYANAAR ! THE ...
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31 Dec 2010 ... ... Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''Potalaka is on the sea-
side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
SABARIMALA: June 2009
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29 Jun 2009 ... ... Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''Potalaka is on the sea-
side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
SABARIMALA: LORD AYYAPPA
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29 Jun 2009 ... ... Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''Potalaka is on the sea-
side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
SABARIMALA
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1 Oct 2010 ... ... Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''Potalaka is on the sea-
side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
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... 'The Avatamsaka Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''
Potalaka is on the sea-side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
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side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
ALTER EGO: December 2010
getreadytofail.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.htmlââ¬Å½ Cached
31 Dec 2010 ... ... Sutra describes the earthly paradise of Avalokitesvara: ''Potalaka is on the sea-
side in the south, it has woods, it has streams, and tanks''.
- None of the search results lead to the actual text of the Avatamsaka Sutra
- All search results lead to what Rajeev Srinivasan had written. Note that Rajeev wrote his Rediff article on December 31, 1997 (as seen from if you view the HTML source on the page). Compare this with the visible dates for all the bloggers in the above.
- Note also that Rajeev is the one who used 2 x '' (two times singlequotes) preceding the word Potalaka in his article, instead of doublequotes. And all the search results contain just that version: 2 singlequotes.
- In other words: everyone else all got the statement not from Lokesh's book, but from Rajeev. They're quoting Rajeev - as their source, as "evidence" for "Shabarimalai=Buddhist". (Unless Rajeev had copied and pasted the Lokesh quote too, 2 x singlequotes and all, from some online forum himself). Rajeev's become their authoritative source on what his authority Lokesh Chandra had claimed.
- So the source for the propagation of the subversion on the internet that "Shabarimalai=Buddhist" is... not even Lokesh Chandra but... Rajeev Srinivasan. He could have used his influence for spreading facts instead of irresponsible rumour-mongering based on Lokesh's mere (and bad) speculations.