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Nexus Between Entities Influencing India
Effects of cryptochristianism (including that of Samuel Reddy and N.Ram):

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Mar 15 2009, 10:11 AM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Mar 15 2009, 10:11 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->From comment at
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->narayan said...

    Rajeev did not know where to post this news. Please post it on your main blog page. Last time i<b>n 2004 also the bishops conference asked all Christians to vote for congress.</b>
    3/13/2009 12:54 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The Chindu is doing so again now. Sandhya had earlier written how The Chindu's kryptokatholickristo N.Ram - he of two (sequential) christian wives - attended some exclusive catholic bishops conference. Chindu advertises again (note how YSR's name Samuel isn't mentioned anywhere, praise cryptchristianism):

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Andhra Pradesh</b> 
Andhra Pradesh - Visakhapatnam   

<b>Pastors root for YSR</b>

Staff Reporter

VISAKHAPATNAM: Pastors and Christian religious heads from the city and district expressed the view that only the Congress can safeguard and uphold the secular fabric of the Constitution that guarantees all citizens the freedom to pursue the religion of their choice. Thousands of pastors and Christian religious leaders participated in a meeting organised by Visakhapatnam Pastors Fellowship at the Municipal Stadium here on Friday. Later giving details to newsmen, <b>State Pastors Fellowship president Rev K. Pratap Sinha said that a Special Minority Corporation was established, a subsidy of Rs.20,000 was being extended to Christians to visit Jerusalem and Rs.15,000 worth material was being sanctioned to poor Christian couples who were marrying at mass weddings. All these benefits were being extended to Christians in AP as nowhere else in the country, he said and gave full credit to Chief Minister Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy for these programmes.</b>

Bishop K.R. Singh said that the Rajasekhara Reddy Government had introduced several welfare schemes for the poor .

Visakha Pastors Fellowship president M.A. Paul called for unity among the community members. The pastors would pray for the success of Rajasekhara Reddy from March 23 to April 23.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The following is christoterrorist theft of a Hindu tradition: much Hindu temple money and a lot of the money given to Mathas went to them conducting mass marriages of poorer Hindu couples. Now Hindus' money is stolen and given to christoterrorists so they can convert more:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rs.15,000 worth material was being sanctioned to poor Christian couples who were marrying at mass weddings.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Poor Hindus, it's Hindus' money used to fund the christoterrorists' visits to Jerusalem (if only it was a one-way ticket, I'd not complain).

1. Kanimozhi daughter of Karunanidhi is married to a Tamil christian from Singapore.
That takes care of the DMK (in case anyone was having second thoughts about the DMK's christoterrorism).

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>pvas 19/04/2008 05:50:29
MK may have christian ties...</b>
Someone should investigate MK's christian ties. The fact that he remains tight-lipped about christianity, christian rituals and practices, and church activities, but talks venomously about Hinduism and Hindu practices suggests clearly that he is NOT an atheist, but anti-hindu with christian leanings. Added to this, is the fact that his daughter, Kanimozhi, is married to a converted Tamil christian from Singapore. It is my bet that this man, MK, receives strong backing and support(financial and political) from christian organizations. He needs to be completely exposed - show him up for all that he is. His 'pro-tamil' ideology is just a camouflage for what he truly is - an anti-hindu, christian fraud, with a sole obective to destroy hinduism and make TN a christian state!  <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I guess it's all really innocent.

2. Now for both Jayalalitha (and her party) and that other christo dravoodian party MDMK

<b>Tamil Nadu Lawyers’ mutiny – the Church’s first big step</b>
13/03/2009 03:03:02
By Radha Rajan

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is not simply coincidence that all processions and demonstrations in support of the LTTE and Velupillai Prabhakaran, in the guise of support for Sri Lankan Tamils have a Christian padri leading from the front. Roadside meetings addressed by politicians belonging to the ‘Viduthalai Chiruthai’ (Leopards for Freedom, a name closely resembling the Tamil appellation for the LTTE, ‘Viduthalai Puli’ or Tigers for Freedom or simply Tamil Tigers) are also organized near churches; the flock in these churches constitute the audience at these meetings. A few years ago a Christian nun was arrested in South Tamil Nadu for distributing inflammatory pamphlets in support of the LTTE and Tamil Eelam (the secessionist Tamil state). <b>Velupillai Prabhakaran, and his son who has been anointed terrorist-heir apparent, are both Christian; the LTTE’s verbose supporter in Tamil Nadu, the notorious Vaiko or Vai. Gopalaswamy is also allegedly Christian. Vaiko, chief of MDMK,</b> yet another secessionist dravidian Tamil political party was incarcerated by Jayalalithaa under the NSA for sedition. He is now her devoted Walter Raleigh. 

The most striking tell-tale sign of the hand of the church in the cause of the Tamil secessionist movement is Jayalalithaa’s endorsement last week of Tamil Eelam; she had been vehemently opposed to the idea of Tamil Eelam and had staunchly maintained that she was as committed to the territorial integrity of Sri Lanka as she was to the resolution of the civil war with justice for the Sri Lankan Tamil people. This radical departure on Jayalalithaa’s part of endorsing Eelam is only a continuum of the radical departure she made in December 2008 when several Christian padris, which included one Bishop, conducted special Christian prayers on Christmas day followed by special service in her home at Poe’s Garden. This went far beyond the usual Christmas festivities in which Hindu political leaders participate for their Christian cadre and for secularism. Needless to say it was Vaiko who offered Jayalalithaa lemon juice after her day of fasting for the well-being of the LTTE.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And Joy Lolita is the one who enabled the defamation, incarceration (and subsequent torture by christian 'police' officers) of Kanchi Shankaracharya. Her cryptochristianism merely made it look like it was the secular law. No it wasn't. It was just plain old christoterrorism. It's just that she's now becoming a bit more open about it.
<i>Meera Nanda is a John <b>Templeton Foundation Fellow</b> in Religion and Science (2005-2007). She is the author of ‘Prophets Facing Backward: Postmodernism, ...</i>

<img src='http://newhumanist.org.uk/images/Meera-Nanda1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
[quote=Husky,Mar 15 2009, 02:38 PM]

Quote:Kanimozhi daughter of Karunanidhi is married to a Tamil christian from Singapore

The present husband is second and he prefers to stay in Singapore rather than chennai

'Sundar', it is irrelevant where he stays. It merely shows Kanimozhi's preference and what her dad karunanidhi is okay with. Very secular and 'atheist' of the supposedly atheist DMK (christo DMK).
So what if Kanimozhi's husband is staying overseas (when her dad who curiously approved of a christian son-in-law is still in India). Anita Simon 'Pratap' married a Norwegian and moved to Norway. Doesn't make her less of a christian or less of a threat to the Dharmic subcontinent. She is still meddling by writing her christononsense in books and pro-LTTE articles.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Insulting National Anthem - Court orders summons to Shashi Tharoor</b>
24/03/2009 02:54:38  www.expressbuzz.com

KOCHI: Finding that “there is sufficient grounds to proceed with the complaint” that Shashi Tharoor showed disrespect to the National Anthem at a function held at Ernakulam on December 16, 2008 the Ernakulam Additional Chief Judicial Magistrate on Monday ordered to issue process by way of summons for his appearance before the court at 11 am on April 18.

To solve the question as to whether a charge could be framed against Tharoor under Section 3 of the Prevention of Insults to National Honour Act, 1971, for the alleged act, his presence is necessarily required, said ACJM Cherian K Kuriakose. The allegation levelled against Tharoor is that he interrupted the singing of the National Anthem at the end of the function organised by the Fedbank Hormis Memorial Foundation in which he had delivered the K P Hormis Memorial Lecture.It is alleged that while the singing was in progress, Tharoor picked up the microphone and directed the elite audience to stand up the way the US people do while singing their national anthem, with right palm placed on the chest, instead of standing to attention in tune with the official instructions followed in India.

Some members of the audience followed his instruction when the singing resumed, but not all.The Magistrate had taken cognizance on the offence and conducted an inquiry by examining the complainant and two witnesses.

The complaint argued that the action of the accused was an expression of insensitivity and inconsiderateness to the age-old tradition followed in the country in obedience to the official code of conduct prescribed for the rendition of the National Anthem.

Any new suggestion could have been given by the accused either prior to the singing or after. Or, he could have placed it at the appropriate forum for modification of the standing official instructions.

Respect is an expression of attitude of mind. Hence, the prime question would be whether the alleged action of the accused could be viewed prima facie as an expression of disrespectful mental attitude, the ACJM said.

As per the official instructions, when the National Anthem is sung or played the audience shall stand to attention. Therefore, the alleged direction given by the accused to the dignified audience is literally and prima facie in defiance to the above imperative official instructions imparted to the nation which should be taken as a grossly inappropriate gesture on the part of the accused. Sworn statement by the complainant Joy Kaitharath and two witnesses would prima facie give the indication that the argument of the complainant’s counsel carry weight.

It was also alleged that the interruption of the singing of the anthem ipso facto would render the accused liable to penal action under Section of the Act under which intentionally preventing the singing of the National Anthem and causing disturbance to any assembly engaged in such singing is punishable with imprisonment up to three years and fine.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
^ And:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>This Crypto Christian Congress MP fooled the Nation over the years</b>
24/03/2009 02:52:23 

Kodikkunnil’s candidature challenged


KOCHI: A Division Bench of the Kerala High Court on Monday posted for instructions of the Election Commission of India on two public interest writ petitions alleging that Kodikkunnil Suresh is not a member of any Scheduled Caste community and therefore he has not been entitled to contest elections in constituencies reserved for the Scheduled Castes.

During the hearing, the Bench consisting of Chief Justice S R Bannurmath and Justice Kurian Joseph queried how Suresh was allowed to contest elections from a reserved constituency more than once in the past.One of the petitioners N Sasidharan of Poovanthuruth, Kottayam, is a member of the Mannan community, which is a Scheduled Caste, who intends to contest election from Mavelikkara Constituency where Suresh is the designated UDF candidate. The other petitioner Biju T Cherukol of Mavelikkara, a state committee member of the NCP, is aggrieved by the fact that the authorities are not taking any action on the petitions filed by him seeking action against Suresh.

Both the petitioners allege that <b>Suresh is a Christian Cheramar born to Christian parents and was baptised. But, he contested and won elections from Adoor reserved constituency using a fake caste certificate that he is a member of the Hindu Cheramar community, which is a Scheduled Caste.</b>

He was a Member of Parliament for 14 years and is going to contest the election from Mavelikkara reserved constituency for which he is disqualified as Cheramar Christian community is not a Scheduled Caste.According to Sasidharan, <b>Suresh was baptised at the Ayroorppara Malankara Catholic Church. His original name was Moniyan. As per the records of Pothenkode LVHS and his SSLC book, he is a Christian Charamar.</b>

Therefore, the direction to the Election Commission to declare that Kodikkunnil Suresh is disqualified from contesting any further election to Parliament and that his elections in the past were invalid.<b>Legal action against Suresh, including to return of the benefits received by him as a Member of Parliament, criminal action against him and the Nedumbangad tahasildar and the Vembayam village officer who issued the false caste certificate, are also sought for.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Cryptochristianism is lethal to Hindu Dharma. Must be exposed.

About post #63:
And I thought Nukeray chowdhury was an eyesore.
Are we collecting pictures of scary-looking people now? Part of a "Terrorist Brides: Uglee People To Ogle At" calendar? Teesta seetlewaddle, Mehbooba Mufti, Jennifer Arul of NDTV, Anita Simon 'Pratap' of the LTTE-cheering-squad, Meera Nanda and all those other christoislamicommuni freaks are very grotesque-looking (understatement). I don't know if this was something they were aiming for, but they sure achieved it.

Please put a warning on the images, the way I did with Anita Simon 'Pratap'. Still having the occasional nightmare from seeing her face. And now there's the blemish of Meera Da Nun to cope with.
Consider the other IF-ers: some may even need therapy to deal with all this pain.
Still on Shashi Tharoor.

St Stephens churns out so many in the same mould.
<b>NYC Alums of St. Stephen's College, Delhi</b>
(Why in New York?)

An image with -
From left: Arjun Thakran, <b>Barkha Dutt, Shashi Tharoor</b>, Anil Kumar, Muzaffar Chisti, Kamlesh Sharma, Mariam Paul, Rahul Bhattacharjee

What you get when people send their kids to christo madrasas: brainwashed sheep.

See the list of persons they have at the above link. 6 people in NY who went to St Stephens are now listed as working in the "Indian Mission to UN" and 5 listed as working at "United Nations".
Explains so much.
I added info about Shashi Tharoor. His mom is Lily Tharoor. Does anybody know if Keralite Hindus have Lily has a name?
Once on Bill Maher's commie leftist program, Shashi Tharoor described himself as "Hindu". His mother is most likely an Xtian.
Awwww, Bill Maher's program is great. I too read about some of his family members being interested in Sanskrit, Classical Malayalam etc. As long as there is a sincere respect for local traditions and culture things should hopefully be good.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>chandrabhan prasad: return to feudalism</b>
mar 27, 2009

ooh... that is a stinging blow! and to think it comes from a prasad, who emphasizes he's a harijan, is a double blow!

is he in effect calling communists pimps?


One of the big mistakes socialism made was to dismiss man's innate abilities of creating wealth. So disastrous the socialism turned that all erstwhile socialist republics of the East Europe and Russia are now largest exporters of female bodies. West Bengal comes only next to them.
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 3/27/2009 09:56:00 PM 1 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The comment:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sanjay said...

    <b>Chandrabhan Prasad is a self-confessed ex-Maoist who was running a organisation in Maharashtra to slaughter Brahmins.</b>

    He is actually a convert Christian, a church agent on the payrolls of the Americans and Vatican. Hence he wails every week against Hinduism and communism. He is a crypto Christian missionary.

    3/27/2009 11:55 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Oh look, he's a christonazi. All terrorists are either christians or islamists. Communism is merely their temporary stopover. They go the christo route after that.

"Chandrabhan prasad" is allowed to write for the DailyPioneer for some reason, see to the right of http://dailypioneer.com/COLUMNIST/Column.html where he's listed as a Guest columnist.
These people are master infiltrators. That is one skill, besides effective propaganda, that they have learnt exceedingly well. They can come in slowly and gain control of any human organization, academia, news papers and other media, religious groups and especially political parties. Study their history in Europe of how they brought "revolutions" by hiding within opposing political groups. Even in India they attempted at subverting pre-independance congress by infiltrating through its file and gain control.

Study the case of an ext-marxist Mr. Sudheendra Kulkarni, the political advisor / speech writer / ghost-blogger / strategist of Advani-Ji, now a member of BJP's election strategy committee.

A 6 year old article:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sudheendra Kulkarni: A lateral mover from left to right

Aditi Phadnis | July 21, 2003

When Atal Bihari Vajpayee set up his second Prime Minister's Office in 1998 (the first one doesn't count because the government lasted for 13 days) most people commented on one category that seemed over-represented -- former journalists. In addition to Kanchan Gupta, Ashok Tandon and H K Dua there was Sudheendra Kulkarni.

Since then, while Dua and Gupta have dropped out and Tandon concerns himself mostly with the media, it is Sudheendra Kulkarni whose rise has been nothing short of meteoric.

Though there are no public statements from him, his appointment as advisor to the ministry of information and broadcasting has put him plumb in the centre of the current controversy over implementing the conditional access system. And given the influence he has come to wield in the PMO, it will be his view that bids fair to determine the fate of this issue.

As yet, it's hard to fathom his thinking. His sympathies are said to lie neither with the multi-system operators, nor cable operators nor broadcasters. "I am the government. If you don't do what you promise to do, we have ways of making you do it," he is reported to have told a representative of Murdoch.

Kulkarni's life seems to have had three beginnings. It is unusual enough for a BTech from Indina Institute of Technology, Bombay in 1980 to become a journalist. But more unusually, he was associated with two publications owned by Rusi Karanjia -- the Daily and Blitz  -- that were radical chic in their outlook.

Kulkarni's colleagues from those days remember him as courteous and soft-spoken who had read Marx and Lenin well enough to internalise their lessons. When the star writer and USP of Blitz, Khwaja Ahmad Abbas, died, his column called The Last Page was given over to Kulkarni. His writings of the time are full of emotion and passion.

In the early 1990s, L K Advani came to Mumbai. At a press conference he said he had no problems with intellectual disagreement. It was misrepresentation of his views that upset him. "I have for instance, read Sudheendraji's article today. It is not favourable to us, but I liked what he wrote. It was provocative," Advani said. For Kulkarni, this was a second beginning.

The third beginning proved to be a false start. For someone so committed to socialism, it was hard to join a corporate house. But going against the grain, he did, joining the Reliance-owned Observer of Business and Politics as an executive.

Suddenly Kulkarni, better known for his signature un-ironed clothes and wild hair, went in for an image change. At some point, he also worked for the Hindujas. It was not a phase that lasted long.

At the time the CPI (M)'s bullock cart was going nowhere. But Advani's rath was going all over the place. This was the life he had craved. He organised all Advani's campaigns in Maharashtra stayed with the rath, sometimes slept in it when he was too tired to go anywhere else.

When Advani woke up every morning, summaries of editorials, coverage, every printed word on the BJP was served to him with his tea. The BJP was, thus, able to fashion its public strategy even on the move.

Kukarni internalised the RSS's values and identified himself enough with the Sangh to write resolutions for meetings of the national executive.

Govindacharya's room in the BJP's Ashok Road office became his hang-out too.

It was, therefore, no surprise to anyone when he was made director (communications and research) in the PMO. Because Vajpayee was strict about not allowing bureaucrats to attend party meetings, Kulkarni found himself uniquely placed to represent the party's views in the PMO and take the PMO to the party.

Though he had been hired to write the prime minister's speeches, his involvement with people's causes grew. One speech, made three years ago at the Indian Labour Conference, stands out because it committed, in a fire and brimstone tone, the government to an irrevocable course of labour reform.

Many of his ideas have been co-opted officially by PMO. Linking the idea of India by roads through the Golden Quadrilateral was his idea that was fleshed out by others in PMO. The idea that crops should be insured to ensure a return to farmer even if they fail was sketched out by him.

Kulkarni has also been part of the government's task force on IT. He believes there can be resistance to power sector reforms, but there will never be resistance to IT because first-generation entrepreneurs have access to it to better their lives with talent and hard work.

He should know. Lateral entry into the Sangh doesn't usually take you very far. Kulkarni's rise, however, suggests that hard work can take you anywhere.


His joining BJP/Advani coincides BJP/Advani taking a more definitive turn towards secularism.
The following comment in the Rajeev2004 blog is also on the above-discussed communista Sudheendra Kulkarni:
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Jan 13 2009, 05:58 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Jan 13 2009, 05:58 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Related to ^ that, but in defense of nothing and no one (I was going to post the following elsewhere, but I suppose it fits here):

Plus one of the comments:
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Saturday, January 10, 2009
<b>Advani Gets a Blog</b>
BJP leader L.K. Advani gets his own blog.
Posted by san at 1/10/2009 05:44:00 PM
Labels: bjp, media, technology

<b>Ghost Writer</b> said...

    It's probably being ghost written by that <b>Commie S Kulkarni.</b>

    these commies are utter rascal infiltrators. They first pushed the Centrists and conservatives in the Congress out of the way (thanks for the memories Jawahar Stalin) - and now they have pushed a fifth column in the BJP too

    Advani rode the tiger (TM - Ramalinga Raju) when it cam eto Babri - but never owned up to the consequences (good and bad) of the demolition. Instead he simply wanted to be accepted as a secular.

    His blog will contain the same wannabe secular, Dhimmi tripe - it has already started with reinforcing the secular Jinnah speech comment.
    1/10/2009 7:40 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Mar 29 2009, 05:19 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Mar 29 2009, 05:19 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/03/cha...-feudalism.html
The comment:
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sanjay said...

    <b>Chandrabhan Prasad is a self-confessed ex-Maoist who was running a organisation in Maharashtra to slaughter Brahmins.</b>

    He is actually a convert Christian, a church agent on the payrolls of the Americans and Vatican. Hence he wails every week against Hinduism and communism. He is a crypto Christian missionary.

    3/27/2009 11:55 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Oh look, he's a christonazi. All terrorists are either christians or islamists. Communism is merely their temporary stopover. They go the christo route after that.

"Chandrabhan prasad" is allowed to write for the DailyPioneer for some reason, see to the right of http://dailypioneer.com/COLUMNIST/Column.html where he's listed as a Guest columnist.
[right][snapback]95882[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Let's not blame 'chandrabhan'. It's his christianism. Here's where it originated:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Francis Xavier was the pioneer of anti-Brahmanism which was adopted in due course as a major plank in the missionary propaganda by all Christian denominations.</b> Lord Minto, Governor General of India from 1807 to 1812, submitted a Note to his superiors in London when the British Parliament was debating whether missionaries should be permitted in East India Company’s domain under the Charter of 1813. He enclosed with his Note some <b>“propaganda material used by the missionaries” and, referring to one missionary tract in particular, wrote: “The remainder of this tract seems to aim principally at a general massacre of the Brahmanas”</b> (M. D. David (ed.), Western Colonialism in Asia and Christianity, Bombay, 1988, p. 85). Anti-Brahmanism has become the dominant theme in the speeches and writings of Indian secularists of all sorts.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->This is what christianism does. Hence it is what christians do.
Non-existent jeebus and the babble is evil. Only genocide and lies come from it: anti-semitism, anti-gypsyism, anti-Africans, anti-Tutsi, anti-every resisting body.
<b>Movement for Accountability to Public
(via comment at HK)

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Dhar's book Open Secrets</b>
by opus dei (< a link to some sulekha blog that is missing)
Posted on June 15, 2005 1:26 AM EST

A retired Indian Police Service officer, Maloy Krishna Dhar, has revealed in his book Open Secrets certain "facts" that otherwise would have remained secret in the files of the Intelligence Bureau, which he served for 29 years. Though some of these incidents have always been talked about at informal gatherings, no one from the IB ever tried to produce it in "black and white". Dhar, in his 519-page book, makes a reference to an alleged plot by Dhirubhai Ambani's Reliance Industries to replace the then Prime Minister, Rajiv Gandhi, with his cousin Arun Nehru. He also gives vivid accounts of Maneka Gandhi's phone being tapped during Indira Gandhi's regime, the love life of BJP leaders Uma Bharti and K.N. Govinda-charya, an encounter with a Delhi policeman who had managed a posting at a coveted police station in central Delhi after spending Rs 5 lakhs for this and the identification of four Union ministers in Indira Gandhi's Cabinet as alleged conduits of the KGB, the intelligence agency of the erstwhile Soviet Union. Although the author doesn't provide any direct evidence to prove his points, he claims to have picked only those incidents which had a direct bearing on him as an IB operative and with which he was involved on official orders from his boss in the IB. A former joint director in the IB, Dhar's book also contains a reference to how Dhirubhai Ambani gained a foothold inside the Indira Gandhi administration through certain bureaucrats. The author also claims in his book that Mr. George Fernandes was rated by the IB as a foreign spy because of his links with Socialist International. "Several surveillance measures were adopted to keep a tag on his activities," Dhar claims in his book. On Maneka Gandhi he says: "The popular perception that Maneka was thrown out of 1, Safdarjung Road is not correct. She had meticulously prepared for the event ... My static watchers and moles inside the Prime Minister's house had noticed Maneka transferring out small baggage items, which allegedly contained cash, from Safdarjung house to her mother's place at Jorbagh ... Soon after Maneka contrived her exit from the Safdarjung residence of Indira Gandhi, I was directed to mount renewed technical and human intelligence operations against Maneka Gandhi and her mother... I was directed to bug the target phone and locate a `safe house' to record the transmitted telephone and room conversations... The assigned task was accomplished without breaking into the premises of Maneka Gandhi." On Dhirubhai Ambani and Arun Nehru he writes: "Rajiv's woes were aggravated by a spate of `scandals' ... Arun Nehru, V.C. Shukla and powerful lobbies that ranged from industrial houses to thirsty and hungry politicians ably assisted him. In fact, certain accounts attributed a plotted coup by the Reliance Industry of Dhirubhai Ambani to replace Rajiv by Arun Nehru. They were indeed close during the days of bonhomie when Arun collected funds for Rajiv's political campaign. Dhirubhai was known to be a kind financier behind many a successful politician in India."

"We know nothing about you." told Mr. P.A. Sangma looking at Sonia Gandhi. Every leader in that room were aware of the fact that the Russian spy agency KGB had deposited US $2 billion (Rs 9400 Crores) in a Swiss bank account in 1985 in the "minor" account of Rahul Gandhi managed by his mother Sonia Gandhi that was reported years back in .Schweitzer Illustrierte, a Swiss news magazine. Is Sonia Gandhi, who called Vajpayee a gaddar (traitor) is the actual traitor? Does Sonia Gandhi alias Maino is a possible KGB and the Vatican secret agency Opus Dei's plant in India.

Sonia had bluffed Parliament in the 'Who is who' record which is part of the Parliament record, wherein it was stated on page 291 that Sonia Gandhi had a diploma in English from Cambridge University. This is false information and Sonia does not have even a high school certificate. This amounts to lying to the Parliament. Sonia had gone to work as a housemaid in the town of Cambridge and was learning English in a teaching shop. Russian Intelligence agencies have planted her in front of Rajiv Gandhi to trap him. The nation has no clue about who Sonia really is. What Sonia was doing between 1963 to 1967 in UK if she was not studying? India has no time to waste to find out the truth of Sonia Gandhi. She has a pedestrian intellect and not a suitable material to head our nation.

Who is Sonia? She is Antonia Maino of Italy and was born to Mrs. Paola Maino, in a small village called Orbassano, near Turin city. Her father was Stephano Maino and was a member of the fascist party. Sonia's parents were poor. Sonia was sent to UK from Italy to work as a housemaid in Cambridge. As her English was poor she used to attend a part time English speaking class at a roadside tutorial. Mrs. Antonia Maino was given the name 'Sonia' by her late mother-in-law, Indira Gandhi. But there is no notification in the gazette regarding this change in name. This change of name runs in Nehru family is to fool the Indian public for their votes. Indira Gandhi was Indira Priyadasini. Indira married as per Islamic rites Feroz Khan after converting herself to Islam. Indira’s muslim name was Maimuna Begum and later both had changed their name to fool the public of India on the advice of Ghandi by an affidavit in a court to Indira Gandhi and Feroz Gandhi. .

Before finding out about Sonia Gandhi, we should see what chilling incident happened in our neighboring Sikkim. In Sikkim a CIA agent Hope Cooke was presented as an American research student to the Sikkim prince and future King Palden Thondup Namgyal, for creating an independent Sikkim. . The then king appointed Ms. Cook as the English language tutor to the crown prince. Ms. Cook conveniently fell in love with her student and this culminated in the Royal wedding. Sikkim. Prince Palden Thondup Namgyal aged 39 married Hope Cooke, 22 in 1963 and conveniently his father Tashi Namgyal, the eleventh chogyal died in the same year. Sikkim used to be a protectorate of India, which had overall responsibility for its defense and foreign relations. Barring this, the territory enjoyed some autonomy under the Chogyal (ruler). The Indian intelligence was aware of CIA plot. Our government in 1975 ended the special status of Sikkim and Cook along with chogyal emigrated to US. Sonia could be the KGB or the Pope’s Opus Dei’s answer in India to what CIA did in Sikkim.

Russian spy agency KGB’s deposit of US $2 billion (Rs 9400 Crores) in a Swiss bank account in 1985 in the "minor" account of Rahul Gandhi managed by his mother Sonia Gandhi as was reported years back in .Schweitzer Illustrierte, a Swiss news magazine was not for free. Antonia Maino alias Sonia Gandhi has to payback for such an investment. Is this the amount Russians paid for buying India? . It is no wonder that Mushareef is asking for the mediation of Kashmir issue by Sonia Gandhi. Sonia was Antonia Maino and was born in1944 in Luciana in Italy as per her birth certificate submitted to our Government. Strangely her official father Stefano Maino a mason, a fascist, and a Nazi army volunteer was a prisoner-of-war in Russia continuously from 1942 to 1945. At the time of Sonia’s marriage to Rajeev the papers had even reported that both were of the same age. So a new birth date of 1946 was created and the place of birth became Orbassano in Italy and the name became Sonia which is uncommon in Italy. In 1966 she was working in London for an ISI operative Salman Thassir. Sonia’s link to KGB is also reported in the press. When Manmohan Singh's government taken office, Russia called back its career diplomat Ambassador in New Delhi and posted as the new Ambassador a person who was the KGB station chief in New Delhi during the 1970s. So it may not be surprising that recently we made urgent payment to Russia that was widely reported, even though the prices are not negotiated or finalized. Facts are stranger than fiction. The revelations by the principal Swedish Bofors case investigator Sten Lindstrom on the pressure from the congress government in India that resulted in the misdirection and closing down of the Bofors investigation is really stunning information that points the finger at Rajiv and Sonia. The pressure from India also led to the Swedish National Audit Bureau sending a blanked out version of its inquiry to India. When a team of senior executives from Bofors traveled to India to testify before the Joint Parliamentary Committee, they were prevented from doing so. Instead they met a small group of officials to whom they did not hand over any names He says that Ottavio Quattrocchi, the Italian middleman who negotiated the political payoff through A E Services, and who was paid $7,123,000 as a gift must be interrogated along with Sonia Gandhi . 320 million Swedish kronor had been paid as bribe for the Bofors deal to the Hindujas and Win Chadha. Win Chadha used to get faxes in Dubai on cabinet decisions on Bofors from the office of Rajiv Gandhi when Rajiv was the prime minister. I still remember the day Rajiv Gandhi visited the Dubai businessman Chabria at his office in the Jumbo house in Bur Dubai in the night like a thief when Chabria was wanted by the Indian police and it was a real shocker for me. I would not have believed it had I not seen the incident. Only time will tell as to what was the reason for that secret and clandestine meeting in Dubai. Italian government has approached our government in October 2003 with a request to drop the case against Quattrocchi which means that the Sonia marrying Rajiv is not a simple boy meets the girl thing, but could be a planned operation by the Vatican.

If Sonia becomes the PM of India the havoc that will visit us is incalculable. Everything about our national security, defense, scientific and technological progress by BARC, ISRO, DRDO, ICAR, ICMR, our trade policies will be an open book to Russia, Rome and even to the Muslim nations. The Italian mafia will take over Indian institutions and businesses. The consequences are very dreadful and macabre to imagine as our nations will be taken over through the backdoor. In 1996 George Fernandez moved a resolution in the parliament which says that a person who is not an Indian by birth should not be allowed to hold high offices. Sonia never forgot this incident. Subsequently foreign funds came for the establishment of Tehelka, a website whose CEO was a nephew of Arjun Singh of Congress. The chief of Zee TV is close to Congress. Tehelka went into elaborate deception to discredit the Defense department of corruption. They showed senior politicians, bureaucrats and army officials apparently taking bribes from journalists posing as arms dealers. Tehelka.com's sponsor Zee TV prominently featured the story, sensationalizing it in the bargain. As far as the contents of the Tehelka tapes are concerned, they are worth nothing. The 'evidence' of the tapes would be thrown of any court in five minutes. Even worse, they would not be admissible even in an FIR (first information report), without which there cannot be an investigation. To begin with, the 'evidence' was obtained illegally. Even the police need a court order to tape secretly. When the tapes were shown on TV, most people could not make head or tail of the comments provided by the broadcaster. Parliament was paralyzed for days by the opposition.

Possible involvement of ISI, KGB, Opus Dei

1. During Nehru's time Indira Gandhi might have been on the payroll of KGB. Later as per U.S. Congressional hearing records Indira Gandhi's family most likely Rajiv and Sonia, were on the payroll of the Pakistani Banker the late Agha Hassan Abedi, who founded the Bank known as Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). BCCI was a drug money laundering outfit finally owned by the ruler of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Zyed. Mr. Manmohan Singh when he was the governor of Reserve Bank of India was advised by RAW not to issue license for opening the ISI bank BCCI in Bombay as BCCI was funding spying in India and was also funding the Pakistani nuclear programme. Yet Manmohan simply approved it. BCCI was used even by Reliance for its hawala transactions. (BCCI had grown as a result of it running a supply centre for ‘Pakistani minor girls’ to Sheikh Zyed and other leading Sheikhs in the Gulf. Naturally Sheikh became the leading share holder of BCCI. These details are available in the US senate reports.) The BCCI also known as the cocaine bank collapsed with a loss of $ 16 billion. All that Manmohan got was a scholarship for his daughter, but his main benefit turned out to be that the congress party immediately inducted him to the party. Many details are available in our parliamentary proceedings when the collapse of the BCCI was discussed. Sonia had connections to the Vatican Bank which was active in Europe and America drug market where as BCCI specialized in the Asian drug market. Abedi's reach extended to the U.S. also. He even had the former Secretary of Defense Clark Clifford as his lobbyist for a fee of nearly $100 million. All this was exposed in U.S. Congressional hearings.
2. KGB might have murdered Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Sastri, in Tashkent, by poisoning so that Nehru family can come back to power. Following the India-Pakistan War of 1965, Shastri met in Tashkent with President Ayub Khan of Pakistan and signed a “no-war” declaration. He died the next day Jan 11, 1966. The story put out by KGB that a Muslim cook with Lal Bahadur Sastri's entourage had poisoned him in Tashkent and escaped to Pakistan may be a cover-up for what KGB had done.

3. Sonia Gandhi was groomed and presented in front of Rajiv Gandhi by KGB, to hook Rajiv which was successful. Subsequently Rajiv marries Sonia.

4. KGB may be involved in the plane accident of Sanjiv Gandhi and might be pure murder to eliminate Sanjiv and to bring in Rajiv as the successor to Indira Gandhi. This paved the way for Rajiv Gandhi to become PM, who is married to KGB agent Sonia.

5. Rajiv Gandhi was killed by the Sri Lankan terrorist group LTTE which is totally supported and financed by christian organizations abroad. Rajiv Gandhi was blown up in Tamil Nadu on May 21, 1991 by a Roman Catholic female suicide bomber Dhanu, 24, whose real name was Kalaivathi. Once Rajiv was killed the external spy agencies might have worked behind the scenes to promote Sonia Gandhi. Potential threats to Sonia’s leadership were one by one eliminated in excellently planned natural accidents which are a KGB specialty. All the deaths of potential future contenders of congress presidency were killed in accidents on Sundays. Sunday murders are a specialty of Christians and this is well proven in India's North Eastern states where the Christian terrorists murder Hindus mostly on Sundays. Muslims generally carryout terrorist killing of Hindus on Fridays. Rajesh Pilot died in a road accident on Sunday, Jitendra Prasada died of brain hemorrhage on Sunday and Madhava Scindia was killed in a place crash on Sunday. Kamal Nath, another prominent young Congress leader narrowly escaped when a small plane he was traveling in crashed, killing some others on board. On Sunday 30th September. 2001 Madhavrao Scindia who was deputy leader of the Congress in the Lok Sabha and one of its senior-most members, and who was also one of the boyfriend of Sonia in London, was killed along with seven others. They were charred beyond recognition in a plane crash. Seventeen minutes before the plane was due to land in Kanpur, the Air Traffic Control in the city lost contact with it. The plane caught fire in mid-air and became a ball of fire by the time it hit the ground. Mystery shrouds the circumstances under which the aircraft crashed near Motta village in Mainpuri district. The Beechcraft C-90 aircraft used by Mr. Scindia belonged to Jindal Strips and was maintained by India International Aviation Ltd. In June 2000 the senior Congress leader Rajesh Pilot met with the fatal accident in the highway on a stretch between Jaipur and Dausa.

On the KGB connection, Dhar writes: "My painstaking research and intelligence penetration had succeeded in identifying four Union ministers (of Indira Gandhi's Cabinet) and over two dozen MPs who were on the payrolls of KGB operatives. Some of them are still around... But the most surprising area of penetration of the KGB was the ministry of defense and those layers of the Armed Forces which were responsible for procurement of military hardware. My list of these galactic stars did not amuse my bosses and I was advised to `secure that information' (sic) in my archive. No one at the top had the gumption of illuminating the government with the identity of the Soviet targets... The most interesting case was that of a member of Parliament who regularly received a pay packet from the Soviet embassy for covering certain segments of the kitchen cabinet of Indira Gandhi."


And one that I think was already posted here at IF?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->27 Sept 2002


From Our Delhi Bureau

NEW DELHI: Schweitzer Illustrierte, a Swiss news magazine, has alleged in an old issue that the Soviet intelligence agency KGB had deposited US $2 billion in a Swiss bank account in 1985 in the "minor" account of Rahul Gandhi managed by his mother Sonia Gandhi.

Janata Party President Dr Subramanian Swamy, who had secured an order from the Delhi High Court to the CBI to investigate alleged receipt of slush money by late former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi's family, has cited a November 1991 issue of the Swiss magazine in support of his charge.

In an affidavit filed before the High Court, Dr Swamy has contended that the CBI should have atleast contacted the news magazine to ascertain the facts. Dr Swamy says a proper CBI inquiry would reveal a scandal which will make the Bofors kickbacks pale before it as it involves corruption indulged in by late former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi and exposes the slush money received by Congress President Sonia Gandhi.

Dr Swamy has contested the CBI's contention before the High Court last month that the "allegation" that Rahul Gandhi had received benefits from the commercial dealings of an Indian firm in coopertion with the Soviet foreign trade organisations is vague and hence it did not conduct any inquiry.

He has claimed in the affidavit that during his recent visit abroad this year, he had received "reliable information" that then KGB chief Victor Chebrikov had sought, in writing in December 1985, from the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU), "authorisation to make payments in US dollars to the family members of Mr Rajiv Gandhi, viz Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi and Ms Paola Maino, mother of Sonia Gandhi."

He has further claimed that the payments were authorised by CPSU by a resolution CPSU/CC/No 11228/3 dated 20/12/1985 and the same was also endorsed by the USSR Council of Ministers in Directive No 2633/Rs dated 20/12/1985. He also claimed that these payments had been coming since 1971 as the payments received by Sonia Gandhi's family "have been audited in CPSU/CC resolution No 11187/22 OP dated 10/12/1984.

It may be mentioned here that Dr Swamy had filed a writ petition before the Delhi High Court last year claiming that his allegations against Sonia Gandhi and her family members were based on the documents in the KGB archieves. He said the CBI should have obtained a Letter Rogatory to seek the information from the Russian Government instead of rejecting his charges outright. The case is listed for the next hearing on October 28. END<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

was a matter already alluded to in
- a post by Dhu in the Lanka thread,
- two earlier posts
- by Shankara in the old "Power centers in the corridors of power" thread
- and one posted by Capt M Kumar
Following comment at VV reminded me of another comment at HK:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Priyankas-father-in-law-found-dead/articleshow/4356528.cms pls write on this.. <b>Is there something fishy in all these deaths in the family. Also about the RSS connection of vadra family</b>
  Pls write on this too 
  03 Apr 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><b>ADDED:</b> The link to the TOI article had already been posted by Mudy (along with one from HT) in the Corridors of Power thread.

Comment at HK:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> prasanth
25/03/2009 20:58:41  priyanka gandhi and RSS
mrs priyanka vadhera,instead of advicing varun gandhi to read gita first try to respect your father in law. Respecting elders is the tradition of bharath.<b>How come only Robert vadhera is secular and all the other people in his family are communal. His families relation with the RSS is quite old.</b> Didn't you knew it when you were dating robert vadhera.It seems that love was blind at that time. then why the double speak now. Be proud of your in laws families assosciation with the nationalist organisations and if possible try to imbibe some indian values from them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And the news article from the VV link:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Priyanka's father-in-law hanged himself: Police sources</b>
3 Apr 2009, 2219 hrs IST, TNN
NEW DELHI: Rajendra Vadra, father of Robert Vadra, Priyanka Gandhi Vadra's husband, was found dead at a guest house in Yusuf Sarai area on Friday. A source requesting anonymity claimed that it was suspected to be a case of suicide as Vadra was found with an ironing cord around his neck. Police officials, off the record, initially said the death was caused by a heart attack, but later clammed up. No official statement was forthcoming from either the family or the police.
(Inconsistent script. Someone fire the screenplay writer.)

Vadra's body was found by a room attendant at around 9.30 am in City Inn, where he had been staying for the last fortnight. His body was taken to Safdarjung Hospital and a post mortem conducted. <b>Sources within the hospital claimed that there were injury marks around the neck, but declined to be quoted.</b> Neither the police, nor hospital authorities divulged any details about the cause of death.

<b>Vadra, who was in his 60s, was reportedly alone at the time of his death. His body was cremated</b> at the Lodhi Road Crematorium on Friday afternoon in the presence of Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, Priyanka and his son Robert, along with other family and friends. Rahul left early for campaigning in Bihar while the others stayed on with the family. The family of the deceased refused to speak to the media about the incident. <b>The police declined to comment on whether an inquest would be conducted into the allegations of suicide.</b>
(Cremated, so Rajendra Vadra was still Hindu.)

Vadra was reportedly undergoing treatment for cirrhosis of the liver and severe diabetes at Max Hospital. He was staying at the guest house even though he owned a house in New Friend's Colony.

<b>About eight years ago, Robert Vadra had issued a public notice stating that his father, Rajender, and brother, Richard, were "duping" people by promising jobs at the Uttar Pradesh Congress Committee and other favours. Rajendra later threatened to file a defamation suit against his son. In an interview, he had also expressed displeasure at Robert's marriage with Priyanka.</b>

Rajendra was a resident of Civil Lines area of Moradabad and ran a brass and wood handicrafts business. <b>Robert's brother, Richard Vadra was also found dead in mysterious circumstances in September 2003 at his Vasant Vihar residence, and his sister Michelle died in a car accident in 2001.

While the Vadra family claimed to be a supporter of the Congress Party, Rajendra's older brother Om Prakash had donated his property to a trust in Moradabad, some members of which are affiliated with RSS. A school still stands on that land. The family is originally from Sialkot, Pakistan, and Rajendra's father moved to India at the time of partition.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->In the photos at the TOI link, Priyanka looks the part of the sad daughter-in-law though her husband Robert Vadra couldn't get along with his dad.
Post 1/2

Greater Minds write:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>robert vadra's relatives are dropping like flies. enquiring minds want to know why</b>
apr 5th, 2009

this vadra guy is the fellow famous for being married to bianca maino alias priyanka nehru.

he is also famous as the only person who is named in the list of VIPs (others are the president of india, the chief justice, the speaker, but not the chief of army staff) who are exempt from being frisked and searched in airports! why this nobody is explicitly named in this context, along with high officials of the indian state, is not clear.

interesting that antonia maino alias sonia nehru and raoul maino alias rahul nehru will be frisked, but not robert, the country's son-in-law, i guess.

i am making a prediction that robert vadra will be the future prime minister of india, sort of like zardari in pakistan.

apparently all of robert's immediate family (except his mother) have died. father hanged himself, sister died in a road accident, and brother committed suicide.

<b>but mother is alive. ah, but then mother is a white woman and a fundamentalist christist, who got rajinder (the hindu father) to convert and forced all her children to be fundamentalist christists too. such people have 'divine' (yeah, right) protection in india.</b>

amazing how various kkkangress people also have died in accidents, very conveniently for the nehru dynasty. eg. sanjay gandhi, rajesh pilot, scindia, et al.

<b>---------- Forwarded message ----------</b>
From: S. Kalyanaraman
Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Subject: <b>Something is amiss in the reports of deaths in Priyanka's family</b>

It is natural to grieve when a death occurs in a family. Condolences to the family members.
(To whom exactly? The only family members who might possibly have cared - daughter Michelle and son Richard - both dead, one if not both died rather mysteriously 'suicide' before this current suspicioso death of their dad. Robert Vadra is more than merely estranged: he sued his dad. The dad was separated from his christo wife: the mother of Robert et al.
At best, Robert and Bianca have proved that they're bad at dramatic acting - with the little show they put on during the dad's cremation. Go on. Give them an oscar. That's what it's for right? For leaking "Tears on demand?")

I was recently reading a report on hawala (to research further on the public loot from Hindusthan kept in tax havens). An interesting route mentioned was diamond smuggling. As everyone knows, India is a favoured destination for cutting and polishing small-sized diamonds. For the last two years, there is a blitzkrieg of promoting diamonds forever to the gullible consumers of Hindusthan. The amazing part of the situation is that Belgium, a diamond-trading hub, has suddenly become the third largest trading partner with India, next only to USA and UK, according to the India-Belgium chamber of commerce. Of course, Dredging International of Belgium got lucrative contracts for dredging in the Indian Ocean...

Strange is the marketplace of Hindusthan.

One wonders why Priyanka's father-in-law, said to have been running a brass and wood handicrafts business, hanged himself.

Would the investigators be equal to the task of figuring out the causes of the tragedy series reported below?


<b>Priyanka's father-in-law hanged himself: Police sources</b>

3 Apr 2009, 2057 hrs IST, IANS

Priyanka Vadra with her mother Sonia Gandhi and brother Rahul Gandhi attends the cremation of her father-in-law Rajinder Vadra in New Delhi. (PTI Photo) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb.c...60&resizemode=4

Priyanka Gandhi with husband Robert Vadra and brother Rahul Gandhi leaves after the cremation of her father-in-law Rajinder Vadra in New Delhi. (Reuters Photo) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb.c...60&resizemode=4

NEW DELHI: Rajinder Vadra, the father-in-law of Priyanka Gandhi Vadra, was on Friday found hanging from a ceiling fan in a south Delhi guest house, highly placed police sources said.

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Rajinder Vadra resided in the Civil Lines area of Moradabad in Uttar Pradesh and ran a brass and wood handicrafts business from there.

Around seven-eight years ago Robert Vadra sent a notice to his father and elder brother Richard, accusing them of using his relationship with Priyanka Gandhi to try and get people appointed to the Uttar Pradesh Congress committee and the Moradabad District Congress committee.

<b>Rajinder Vadra, who was separated from his family</b>, had in an interview denied his son's allegations and expressed his displeasure at his marrying Priyanka, the daughter of Congress president Sonia Gandhi.

<b>His daughter Michelle died in a car accident some years ago.</b>


<b>Another tragedy in Vadra family</b>
20 Sep 2003, 0730 hrs IST, ANUBHA SAWHNEY, TNN
NEW DELHI: <b>Richard Vadra, estranged brother</b> of Priyanka Gandhi's husband Robert Vadra, reportedly committed suicide in Moradabad on Friday.

The tragedy comes two years after the Vadra family lost Michelle — Robert and Richard's sister — in a road accident on the Delhi-Jaipur highway in April, 2001. No details are available on what happened in Moradabad. Robert Vadra refused to comment on his brother's death when contacted by TNN.

In January 2002, Robert Vadra placed ads in newspapers, declaring that he had nothing to do with his father, Rajinder, and brother, Richard, and that any attempts by them to gain favours by pretending to act on his behalf should be disregarded. The notice was issued on Robert's behalf by advocate Arun Bhardwaj.
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While Robert is the proprietor of Artex Exports, through which he sells costume jewellery, Richard ran an independent export business. Rajinder Vadra, separated from his wife, Maureen (nee McDonagh) is an exporter of metal handicrafts and operates from Amar Colony.

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So many 'accidental' deaths and 'suicides'. Convenient, n'est-ce pas? Chalk it up to christo gawd's divine intervention. No need for albino monks to go chasing the targets down when the miraculous ways of gawd smite down the heretics and inconvenients left and right. Or perhaps it's not so miraculous. Maybe it's just a bunch of humans. The catholic hit squad, I mean. No, I'm not talking about the "more-catholic-than-the-pope" Mafia (although they suicided the Vatican banker, see the American Atheists website. It's a catholic thing). But I was speaking of the modern jesuits. What are they called - that famous anti-semitic organisation. The "works of the gawdevil", the "opus deiaboli".

See next post if you don't know what is meant with the murder-suicide of the Vatican Banker by the mafia-hitmen working for the Vatican.
Post 2/2:

Continuing on the matter of the rather catholic-sounding murder 'suicides' above (mafia-style 'suicides'). Read for clarification:

The following 3 articles are from the American Atheists' website (atheists.org), the news "Flashline" section.

1. http://web.archive.org/web/20080115233445/...line/calvi4.htm

Web Posted: June 6, 2005

In the latest chapter of a decades-old scandal, four people have been indicted in connection with the 1982 murder of Roberto Calvi, a powerful international financier and the man dubbed "God's banker" for his close ties to the Vatican.

  Calvi was found hanging beneath Blackfriar's Bridge in London on June 18, 1982. His body was weighed down with 14 pounds of bricks and mortar, and he had $15,000 worth of currency stuffed in his pocket. Although his hands were secured behind his back, the incident was promptly ruled a suicide and the matter mysteriously dropped.

  Calvi had been on the run using a false passport and numerous aliases following the collapse of his Banco Ambrosiano, a financial institution that partnered and laundered money for the Institute for Religious Works (IOR), the Holy See's bank headed by Archbishop Paul Marcinkus.

  All told, nearly $1.4 billion disappeared from the accounts of Banco Ambrosiano, including several hundred million dollars in loans and other financial instruments guaranteed by the IOR, and funneled through a complex network of dummy corporations and off-shore tax havens. Part of the money was diverted to the Solidarity Trade Union in Poland, while other funds subsidized the activities of fascist movements throughout Latin America, and a "shadow government" operating within a renegade Masonic lodge known as P-2 or "Propaganda Due."

Named in the indictment are Flavio Carboni, his ex-girlfriend Manuela Kleinzig, and mobsters Pippo Calo and Ernesto Diotallevi. A trial is set for October.

  Two years ago, partly in response to pressure from Calvi's family Italian prosecutors issued a report saying that the influential banker did not commit suicide. British authorities reopened their investigation as well.

  Several theories have emerged to explain the bizarre series of events which began with the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano, and revelations that the IOR had guaranteed hundreds of millions of dollars in questionable loans and money transfers. Calvi's son, also named Roberto, told an Italian newspaper that while he believes organized crime members carried out the execution of his father, "someone else" was behind the murder. BBC notes that, "In recent years more evidence has come to light, suggesting Calvi was murdered by the mafia to stop him divulging damaging details about links between the mafia, the Vatican and P2."

  His death, observed BBC reporter Chris Summers, took place when Italian business and politics operated in an environment of "smoke and mirrors," where nothing was quite what it appeared to be.

  The Vatican moved quickly to block any investigation of the Banco Ambrosiano fraud, citing diplomatic immunity and its status as a sovereign nation-state under a Concordant established by the regime of dictator Benito Mussolini. (Mussolini's government had also "initialized" the IOR with a sizeable contribution of funds quickly making the Holy See a major player in Italian finance and a lucrative partner in off-shore tax frauds and other scams.) Archbishop Marcinkus, head of the IOR at the time of Calvi's disappearance, avoided arrested by Italian authorities while living within the extraterritorial boundaries of Vatican City. Indeed, Calvi told attorneys "If the whole thing comes apart, it will be enough to start the Third World War."

  The unsavory alliance of mobsters, ambitious politicians and greedy Vatican officials depended on large part on the Holy See's secretive financial network, its huge holdings within major Italian corporations and the Vatican's status as an independent nation-state beyond the purview of Italian officials. Calvi was aware of much of the operation, and accumulated a series of documents and other material as "insurance." In 1988, some of the papers surfaced when police raided the headquarters of a drug gang. Among the evidence were letters addressed to high officials in the Vatican Curia, including the Holy See's Secretary of State Cardinal Agostino Casaroli. Two of the letters referred to the transfer of 1.5 billion lire (approximately $1 million) to cover funds advanced to Flavio Carboni to acquire documents written by Calvi. The Vatican ended up paying Carboni nearly $2 million ("All of it Vatican money" according to Carboni)for those documents, and according to investigators may have released another $40 for other Calvi documents.

  There are other aspects of the Calvi murder that have relevance today, more than two decades after the disgraced banker's corpse was found dangling beneath Blackfriar's Bridge in the City of London:

    ¶      <b>The powerful, semi-secret Catholic group known as "Opus Dei,"</b> is famous for more than its alleged connections with the mythic DaVinci Code fiction. In fact, "Opus Dei" operates as a "Personal Prelature" accountable only to the Pope of Rome. There is compelling evidence that the group stepped in to cover short-falls at the IOR and Banco Ambrosiano, thus insulating the Vatican from potential scrutiny and liability in the midst of Italy's biggest financial scandal.

    ¶      The Vatican through its legal entity, The Holy See, remains unique among the world's religious movements in that it is considered both a nation state and sect. It enjoys official diplomatic relations with over 180 governments including the United States, maintains a growing network of diplomatic missions (which supposedly account for much of the Vatican's "red ink") and is an active "observer" at the United Nations and international NGO events. In the U.S., this dual status has raised questions of whether entities like the <span style='color:red'>National Conference of Catholic Bishops are, in fact, operating under the instructions of another "government," and should thus register under the Foreign Agents Act.</span>
(Naxal Ram - of the christocommunista paper the Chindu - attended something that sounded like the Indian equivalent.)

  This sovereign status has allowed the Vatican to resist scrutiny in a myriad of investigations, including the one into the collapse. A ruling by a U.S. court last month, however, in another case related to the Vatican bank, may indicate that the wall of secrecy surrounding the Holy See's financial intrigues may be pierced in some instances. On April 18, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (frequently the target of charges of so-called "judicial activism") ruled that a lawsuit over restitution from the Second World War could proceed. The case involves charges that property expropriated from Serbs, Jews and Russians looted by the Nazi-controlled Croatian government (at the time a self-proclaimed "Catholic State") was sequestered and "laundered' by the Vatican.

  Fearing that the suit was gaining momentum, the Holy See had asked Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to intervene on behalf of the Vatican. According to attorneys Jonathan Levy and Tom Easton, the amount at issue could be more than $100 million. The case is ALPERIN v. VATICAN BANK.

  On the other side of the globe, the new revelations in the murder of Roberto Calvi are refocusing attention on the role of the Vatican and its ties to covert fascist groups, intelligence services, mobsters and greedy, ambitious politicians. Time is running out, though, for the full story to be told about the Calvi incident and the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano. Archbishop Paul Marcinkus is 81-years old, and assigned to a church in Phoenix, AZ. He still enjoys the benefits of a Papal Passport and diplomatic immunity. It is also doubtful that the new pope, dubbed Benedict XVI, Joseph Ratzinger, is eager to clean house at the Vatican. Indeed, he has maintained most of the old bureaucracy that operated the Holy See under the regime of Pope John Paul II, who covered up everything from sex scandals to the full story behind the papacy's complicity in events dating back to World War II. Unraveling the machinations of the Vatican Bank is proving to be a slow, tedious process. For those seeking justice and a full accounting of one of the biggest financial scandals in recent history, revelations about the murder of Roberto Calvi provide, at least, another step forward.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

2. http://web.archive.org/web/20080115233455/....line/vat13.htm
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  Roberto Calvi, the man once dubbed "God's Banker," was murdered according to new autopsy results. Will the finding put the spotlight back on a decades-old financial scandal involving the Vatican bank, or end up as the most "under-reported" story for 2002?

Web Posted: October 29, 2002

<b>An investigation into a man linked to a decades-old Vatican bank scandal reveals that he was murdered, and did not commit suicide as earlier claimed.</b>

  Roberto Calvi, a leading Italian financier, was found suspended from Blackfriars Bridge in London in 1982. He was chairman of the powerful Banco Ambrosiano, and had close ties with top-ranking Vatican officials as well as organized crime. <b>His death came amidst revelations that the Institute for Religious Works (IOR), the Holy See's financial arm, was involved in money laundering and other suspect activities. Principals in the story were linked to fascist groups including a renegade Masonic lodge that was working to overthrow the Italian government, Mafia operatives and foreign intelligence services.</b>

  An initial investigation concluded that Calvi had somehow managed to commit suicide. His body was disinterred in 1998 and a new probe revealed that he had been strangled, and his body then suspended from beneath the London bridge and weighed-down with bricks. One theory investigators have operated on is that Calvi, who was intimately involved with money laundering and other suspect financial activities with the Vatican, may have been murdered for not repaying loans to organized crime, or was silenced for complicity and what he knew about the unravelling Ambrosiano-Vatican scandal.

  There was no official explanation of why it took four years to perform the new autopsy and release the results.

  The latest report notes that Calvi's neck bones did not show the kind of damage that would have been caused by suicide through hanging, and that his hands and fingernails were clean. "If he had stuffed bits of brick in his own pockets and climbed a rusty scaffolding to hang himself, there would have been traces," noted a Reuters news report.

  Three men are awaiting trial in Rome accused of conspiring to murder the prominent financier. The accused -- Francesco DiCarlo, Flavio Carboni and Pippo Calo -- all have ties to organized crime groups. Prosecutors are expected to examine the results of the new evidence in Calvi's autopsy and possibly use it in forthcoming trials.

  But the background of Calvi's mysterious death is part of a larger tapestry of events which includes the collapse of banks in Europe and the United States, the role played by the Vatican in laundering money and stealing assets of Jews and other refugees from the World War II period, and even efforts to stage political coups and shelter former Nazis and fascists from being brought to justice. Calvi's links to the Vatican bank/IOR have resulted in books, and even a recent movie -- "God's Banker" -- which has played throughout Italy, much to the consternation of the Holy See. The Church has even tried to have posters and other advertisements for the film censored.
(The Vatican will go to HUGE LENGTHS to conceal what it did in WWII and after.)

  "The Vatican is reported to be furious over the film," noted a BBC story last March, "and the Holy See's press office said it had 'absolutely no comment' when asked for their reaction."

(The Vatican Rat Lines: the Vatican helped the nazis escape. See also "Vatican Bank Claims" site.)

  The Calvi story touches on persons and developments going back to the time when the Vatican Bank was first chartered by the Italian fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini. Throughout the 19th century, the holdings of what was originally considered "the Papal State" were confiscated thanks to the unification of Italy. With an ear to the interests of the Vatican, Mussolini proposed in 1929 a Concordant which formally recognized the sovereignty of the Holy See as a geopolitical institution. The equivalent of approximately 85$ million was granted to "actualize" a banking institution under the control of the papacy, known benignly as the Institute for Religious Works.

The IOR was more than a simple internal banking system for the relatively small "government" of the Catholic Church. It benefited from shrewd investments, and eventually would become a haven for "offshore" funds secreted by corporations, organized crime, intelligence services and other groups. During World War II, over $100 million flowed into the IOR coffers thanks to the imposition of the notorious "kirchensteur" or "church tax" imposed by the Nazis in Germany and occupied countries. Other assets, believed confiscated from Jews, Serbs and other nationalities were also safely smuggled into the Vatican treasure chest where they found safe haven and legal immunity.

  In 1969, the Vatican brought into its inner financial circle Michael Sindona, a man with ties to the Mafia dating to the 1940s. Using various "letters of introduction" from key Catholic officials, Sindona had risen rapidly in the world of Italian banking, and was described as "Uomini Di Fiducia," a Man of Confidence in the eyes of the Holy See. Sindona established his own investment empire, and worked closely with Vatican officials to invest in other banks and financial holdings.

  In the United States, Sindona was prominent inside the hierarchy of the Illinois Republican Party. He was also working with the Inzerillo crime family (cousins of the New York Gambino family), and used their funds to invest in private banks and holding companies such as the Liechtenstein-based Fasco AG to the Banca Privata Finanziaria, which had been founded in 1930 by a fascist ideologue.

  Among Sindona's contacts and close associates were Roberto Calvi (Banco Ambrosiano) and an American Bishop, Paul Marcinkus, who would later rise to the position of Archbishop and head of the Institute for Religious Works.

  ¶      Another curious thread of the tapestry involving the Vatican Bank was Liccio Gelli.

  Gelli was welcome in the homes of Italy's leading bankers, industrialists and church officials. He had been a member of the Black Shirts Battalion in Italy, and served with the fascists during the Spanish civil war. With the advent of WW II, he became oberleutnant in the Nazi SS assigned as liaison with the elite Herman Goring Division, and developed close ties to the OVRA, or Italian Secret Service.

  <b>Gelli was also involved with a Croatian priest, Krujoslav Dragonovic, a man instrumental in operating a smuggling service known as the "Vatican ratline."</b> Hundreds of ex-Nazis and clerical fascists were successfully smuggled out of Europe using Vatican passports and other transit instruments. Funds from the IOR often helped in the re-settlement of the war criminals, and spoils from the Third Reich looting spree were sequestered in the untouchable vaults of the Vatican bank.

  <b>Gelli went on to establish an impressive list of international contacts.</b> He was instrumental in bringing Juan Person to power in Argentina, and years later brokered an agreement between French arms manufacturers and the Argentine military for the acquisition of Exocet missiles used during the Falklands war. His penchant for supporting authoritarian, neo-fascist clerical regimes was best articulated by his frequently-mentioned homily, "The doors of all bank vaults open to the right..."

  With his background in fascist movements and ties to intelligence services, Gelli also presided over a secret "lodge" known as Propaganda Due, or P-2. It was structured along the lines of traditional Masonic groups (although the fraternity did not officially recognize P-2 or Gelli), with Gelli as the Grand Master. Its ranks included leading industrialists and financiers, the heads of various intelligence and police services, gangsters and individuals with close ties to the Vatican. In Italy, Sindona and Calvi were both linked to P-2, as was Klaus Barbi, the notorious "Butcher of Lyon."

  Branches of P-2 were established in Argentina, Venezuela, Paraguay, Bolivia, France, Portugal and Nicaragua. The Latin American lodges included junta and death squad leaders, such as Jose Lopez Rega, head of an Argentina-based murder-for-hire intelligence apparatus which also ran a cocaine smuggling operation on the side.

  In Italy, a likely member of P-2 was <b>Cardinal Paolo Bertoli</b>, an official with the church's diplomatic corps. It was Bertoli who introduced Liccio Gelli to the head of the Vatican Bank, Paul Marcinkus. Another entree for both Gelli and Calvi into the Vatican was Italian lawyer and businessman Umberto Ortolani, who in WWII served in the intelligence corps. Ortolani, another P-2 member, was also a enrolled in the <b>Catholic Knights of Malta</b> -- a group which included leading American and European business and intelligence community leaders -- and was elevated by Pope Paul VI to the official status of "Gentleman of His Holiness" within the Holy See.


  A number of developments occurred which brought down Calvi, Gelli, and others tied to the Vatican Bank. Throughout the 1970s, the IOR had served as a shelter for "hot money" and stolen assets, and under the directorship of Marcinkus and others, had guaranteed hundreds of millions of dollars in loans connected to Banco Ambrosiano.

  ¶      Sindona fell first, when in April, 1974 his Franklin National Bank collapsed. Banca Privata disintegrated six months later, with the Vatican's loss pegged at about $27 million. The following month news about Sindona's speculative and illegal offshore capital flight ventures leaked, and Liccio Gelli tipped off the wanted banker to a police arrest warrant. By the time Sindona surfaced in Switzerland, Franklin Bank had collapsed, and Vatican exposure on the debacle reached $240 million.

  ¶      Calvi was also overextended, and some Ambrosiano-Vatican ventures were in serious trouble. Marcinkus, in September, 1981, steps in with "letters of patronage" with the IOR seal to seek more financing. The IOR later admits that its partnership with Banco Ambrosiano in the control of eleven ghost companies based in Panama adds up to a debt of about $1 billion.

  ¶      Word breaks in the news media that Liccio Gelli and his P-2 lodge had created a virtual "state within a state" with the intent of overthrowing the Italian government and establishing a clerical-fascist regime. The membership rolls of P-2 are made public. <b>Also exposed is Flavio Carboni, a "fixer" with ties to the Holy See, various political groups, Propaganda Due and the Vatican -- and a recipient of cash from Banco Ambrosiano for construction projects in Sardinia. Calvi boasts, "Behind those loans is the Vatican, the Pope."

  ¶      In England and elsewhere, investigations into Sindona have widened to include Roberto Calvi and the Vatican Bank. One group being mentioned is Opus Dei, the semi-secret Catholic "prelature" founded by Jose Escriva de Balaguer (recently elevated to sainthood by Pope John Paul II). A powerful financial backer of Opus Dei, Spanish industrialist Jose Mateos, was also treasurer of Propaganda Due and a close associate of Roberto Calvi. Prior to his disappearance, Calvi revealed to associates that in exchange for 16% of Banco Ambrosiano, Opus Dei would help close the institutions $1.3 billion debt. Marcinkus opposed the plan, though, fearing that it would require him to be replaced with a representative of Opus Dei.</b>
(By the way. Opus Dei and its founder were anti-semitic and fascist. Literally. Not a secret. See note at end.)


  <span style='color:blue'>On June 18, 1982, Calvi's body was discovered dangling from Blackfriars Bridge in London.</span> Sindona had gone down, P-2 was exposed -- with Gelli fleeing to Switzerland and later literally "disappearing" from a Swiss prison -- and more questions were being asked about the Vatican's complicity in the Ambrosiano affair, as well as the failed Propaganda Due coup.

  Sworn depositions from members of the Calvi family reflect that he blamed "the priests," men like Marcinkus and Ortolani, and possibly Opus Dei. By this theory, the Vatican reaped huge sums of money through participation in illegal offshore banking schemes, "peekaboo finance," and other questionable financial devices. It is also intriguing to consider the political clout the Vatican purchased, especially with Banco Ambrosiano making huge loans to Italy's major political parties, from the Christian Democrats and Socialists to even the Communist Party.

  The Vatican emerged relatively untouched by the Calvi affair despite the many links between it and principals like Gelli, Carboni, and others. In 1984, the Italian Government guaranteed the return of about $600 million to those who had loaned money to the Ambrosiano-IOR group. Nearly $400 million still remains missing, unaccounted for in the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano.

  Flavio Carboni, one of the men possibly implicated in the murder of Calvi, has also been under investigation for his involvement in a scheme to sell contents of Calvi's missing briefcase to Czechoslovakian Bishop Paolo Hillica. Hillica had been wiretapped by Italian authorities while in conversation with Carboni negotiating for the briefcase, believed to contain documents embarrassing to the Vatican. Hillica, in turn, is linked to another bizarre story, the "miracles on demand" industry centered around alleged apparitions of the Virgin Mary in Medjugore.

  Calvi's body was exhumed on Wednesday, December 16, 1998. News stories suggested that the autopsy results would be release the following year. Now, nearly four years later, comes word that <b>Roberto Calvi did not load his clothing up with bricks and broken mortar and climb to the underside of Blackfriars Bridge to commit suicide, but was killed elsewhere to become a prop in a staged suicide.</b>

  Carlo Calvi, his son told the Toronto Star in December, 1998, "My father had many enemies within the Vatican... The Vatican was at the time effectively selling its extra-territoriality for profit."

  For the Holy See, the outcome was different. There was the mysterious death of one pope, and the rise of a new pontiff who, despite his avuncular public style, has done little to bring transparency to the Vatican Bank. The United States extended official diplomatic recognition to the Holy See, making Catholicism the only world religion which enjoys such a unique governmental status. It was no secret by Reagan-era strategists that one reason for the diplomatic gesture was to tap into the extensive intelligence and organizational resources the Church possessed, particularly in Eastern Europe. With the "fall of the wall," the Church moved aggressively to try and replace the hegemony of fragmented Communist parties throughout the region with its own vision of stern clerical control using the facade of a limited democracy. Soon, as the Stalinist regimes disintegrated, the Holy See was denouncing new secular governments and the prospect of "too much freedom" and the rejection of spiritual values.

  Calvi's death, and the revelation that it was the result of murder, may turn public attention toward a financial scandal that vanished from the media radar screen without being fully resolved. Despite its ramifications, it is a story which so far is under-reported, and may still have significant consequences. For a church besieged by revelations of priestly pedophile abuse and complicity in the looting of personal property from victims of the Holocaust, it is a story best left ignored.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

3. http://web.archive.org/web/20080214164536/...line/calvi5.htm

Web Posted: November 18, 2005

Trial has begun in Rome, Italy over the 1982 murder of Roberto Calvi, the man dubbed "God's Banker" who had close ties to the Vatican, global financial institutions, organized crime and a shadowy neo-fascist movement.

  Calvi was found hanging with his hands tied behind his back under Blackfriar's Bridge in London on June 18, 1982 Bricks and thousands in British Pound currency were stuffed in his pockets.

  Investigators originally ruled the death a suicide, but in 1998 an Italian judge ordered the exhumation of Calvi's body for a new autopsy and a subsequent probe into the incident. Authorities began a new investigation in 2002 after medical experts revealed that Calvi had in fact been strangled near the bridge and then hung from it. Several defendants, including a convicted mobster were indicted, and went on trial last month.

  Legal proceedings will resume on November 28.

  While the case has remained a sensation on the continent even after more than two decades, news coverage of the trial by American media has been sketchy. Many of the personalities, events and details in the Calvi story involve Europe. But it is the recurrent "Vatican connection" through a Chicago archbishop, Calvi's indirect ties to the collapse of a major New York financial institution, and the peculiar relationship between the Holy See and the U.S. government which provides a distinct American flavor to the mysterious case.

  The man at the center of the story, Roberto Calvi, was head of Banco Ambrosiano, a private financial institution with links to the Vatican. The bank failed in one of the most catastrophic financial debacles in modern Italian history, with the equivalent of nearly two billion dollars vanishing into off-shore accounts. Banco Ambrosiano was also involved with the Vatican Bank, benignly titled the "Institute for Religious Works" or IOR. Subsequent investigation uncovered a rogue cast of characters, and evidence that the IOR and Ambrosiano were financial safe havens and pipelines for "flight capital" and other illegally laundered monies.

    ¶      Among those linked to Calvi was Archbishop Paul Marcinkus. Ordained in Chicago, Marcinkus was posted to the Holy See in Rome, and served in the Vatican Secretariat of State. He rapidly moved up within Vatican bureaucracy from personal papal bodyguard to head of the IOR -- a post he held from 1971 to 1989. There he worked closely with international financier Michael Sindona to expand the Vatican's portfolio of international holdings, transforming the Institute for Religious Works into a quiet but reliable shelter for questionable capital. Sindona, laundering money from associates in organized crime, funneled huge sums of money through Banco Ambrosiano and the IOR. The Vatican Bank also worked closely with the United States government as a cover money conduit to groups like the Solidarity Trade Union in Poland. Thanks to Marcinkus, Sindona was to become a "man of confidence" within the Vatican who enjoyed unique access to officials of the Holy See, even the pope.

monthly special    ¶      Michael Sindona had been among Calvi's patrons at the Banco Ambrosiano, and helped expand the small "Catholic bank" into an international financial institution. Sindona's financial manipulations make a story of their own, and investigations after the Ambrosiano collapse would document how his elaborate international network of banks and offshore companies served as vehicle for laundering dirty money earned from everything from heroin traffic to "soft money" investments.

    ¶      Perhaps the most mysterious character in the Calvi saga was Liccio Gelli. A former member of the fascist Black Shirts Battalion and liaison between the Mussolini regime and the infamous Herman Goring SS Division in World War II, Gelli survived the conflict and amassed an impressive list of contacts. He also obtained sensitive information on hundreds of key political, military and financial figures not only in Italy but throughout Europe, Latin America and elsewhere thanks to his access of files from the Italian secret service (OVRA) and possibly British Intelligence. Gelli helped to smuggle Klaus Barbie, the infamous "Butcher of Lyon" to safe haven in Argentina, and even managed to sell his services to the CIA and NATO. He also ingratiated himself with the regime of Juan Person in Argentin

  In 1963, Gelli began the takeover an obscure Italian Masonic lodge, Propaganda Due or P-2, and using the blackmail files of the OVRA and other information, began aggressively recruiting members of the military and intelligence services, as well as key financial and political figures. (The Grand Lodge of Italy quickly severed recognition ties with P-2 when it learned of Gelli's activities.) P-2 expanded its operations to Argentina, Venezuela, Paraguay, Bolivia, France, Portugal and Nicaragua. Associated of Klaus Barbie were recruited, as were leaders from death squads operating in Latin America. One member was the notorious Jose Lopez Gega, an Argentinean <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>clerical fascist who also ran a cocaine smuggling operation into the United States.</span>
(There used to be a website called ClericalFascism or something. It was about the deep involvement of the Vatican and christian priests in nazism.)

  Gelli, like Sindona, enjoyed unprecedented access to the Vatican thanks to his close friendship with Cardinal Paolo Bertoli of the Holy See's Diplomatic Corps. Bertoli is known to have introduced Gelli to Paul Marcinkus. Another close associate and member of this "Gang of Four" was Umberrto Ortolani, a former OVRA Intelligence Officer and co-patron for Calvi while he was moving up in the Banco Ambrosiano. Ortolani was also tied to a secretive Roman Catholic order known as the Knights of Malta, and was elevated by Pope Paul VI to the status of "Gentleman of his Holiness." He also sponsored Liccio Gelli for membership in the Knights of Malta.

    ¶      As the scandal enveloping Calvi and the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano unfolded, police raided Gelli's private offices on March 17, 1981 and seized a treasure trove of documents including one of the membership lists of P-2. Among the 962 members identified in the papers were 43 generals in the Italian armed forces, eight admirals, 43 members of Parliament, all of the heads of the respective security and intelligence services, editors and publishers of major Italian papers and, of course, Michael Sindona and Roberto Calvi. Word of several other lists eventually surfaced, and one P-2 member "went public" with charges that key functionaries of the Holy See were involved in the clandestine group. The cell was shut down by prosecutors amidst evidence that Gelli and P-2 were establishing a "state within a state," and were plotting what amounted to a fascist coup. He eluded police for years, was captured in Cannes, then escaped prison and recently died.

    ¶      <b> Among those on trial in the murder of Roberto Calvi is gangster Flavio Carboni, considered a "fixer" with ties to police, political groups, intelligence services and the Vatican.</b> Banco Ambrosiano backed a risky construction project Carboni had launched in Sardinia. He also admitted being with Gelli in London with Calvi after the embattled banker had fled in the wake of the Ambrosiano collapse. Skeptics say that Carboni was a close friend of Calvi's and had no credible motive for carrying out the murder.

    ¶      Carboni is the man believed to have sold the contents of a brief case Calvi had taken to London to a Czech Bishop, Pavel Hnilica. Hnilica admitted to using funds from the Vatican Bank to purchase the Calvi documents, but said that he did so because Carboni promised that this would insulate the Holy See from any publicity having to do with the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano. Today, those papers remain missing although researchers say they might contain further evidence of the ties between Calvi, Gelli, Marcinkus and illegal activities at the IOR and Ambrosiano. Hnilica was ordained a priest in the Jesuit order, and in 1964 was appointed Bishop of Rusadus.

  In 1993, an Italian court convicted the Catholic prelate for his involvement in using Vatican money to obtain the briefcase.


  When it was learned that over a billion dollars have evaporated from Banco Ambrosiano's ledger and that the Vatican had guaranteed numerous loans with "letters of comfort" and other financial instruments, the Holy See was in the glare of public inquiry and official investigation. It was later revealed that the conservative Roman Catholic group known as Opus Dei had reportedly tried to shore up the $1.3 billion shortfall, but Calvi had already fled to England in an attempt to avoid Italian prosecutors. In 1984, the Vatican tried to close the book on the whole Calvi scandal by paying out $241 million to Ambrosiano creditors "for moral considerations" without admitting to any responsibility.

  Sindona's carefully assembled empire of companies and other holdings, including Franklin National Bank in New York, all crashed in 1974. He died of poisoning while serving a prison sentence.

  Eventually, police warrants were issued for Archbishop Marcinkus who was left at the helm of the Institute for Religious Works by Pope John Paul II. Marcinkus managed to avoid arrest by staying within the confines of the Vatican. Under cover of diplomatic immunity he eventually resigned from the IOR and in 1990 retired to Arizona.

  That legal veil, say critics, permitted not only Marcinkus but other functionaries of the Holy See to immunize themselves from questioning and prosecution about the Calvi affair. Some point to the current scandal involving priestly pedophilia and the obstructionist attitude of the church hierarchy as examples of how the Vatican lacks the accountability and "transparency" many believers say is essential if the Holy See is to survive in the modern world. And the secrecy enveloping the Vatican as an antonymous nation state may be concealing other scandals as well. David Yallop, author of the 1984 best-seller "In God's Name: An Investigation into the Murder of Pope John Paul I" reads like a modern detective thriller, and lays out a compelling argument suggesting that the late pope was eliminated over his threat to reform the Holy See and "clean house" at the Vatican Bank. Equally disturbing is John Cornwell's 1898 work, "A Thief in the Night: Life and Death in the Vatican."

  Other provocative works like "Unholy Trinity: The Vatican, the Nazis and the Swiss Banks" by Mark Aarons and John Loftus probe earlier history, and explore the people and events liking the Holy See with the Third Reich.

  For many researchers, the Calvi murder is at the center of a nexus of events spanning several decades, and underscores the secretive relationship the Vatican -- through the IOR and principals like Roberto Calvi and Paul Marcinkus -- has enjoyed with powerful financial interests, intelligence services, secret political cabals and foreign governments.


  Among the world's religions, the Roman Catholic Church is unique in being both a faith and a nation state. The modern era witnessed the creation of the present Holy See in June, 1929 when the Italian fascist leader Benito Mussolini engineered the Lateran Treaty. It gave the Vatican full control over its grounds and buildings. And in exchange for supporting Mussolini's authoritarian government, the church received a check for 750 million lire, about $39 million in currency of that era used to initialize the financial institution that evolved into the Vatican bank.
(Can you say "Blood money"?)

  Today, the Holy See has official diplomatic relations with 174 countries, as well as the European Union, Russia and the Palestine Liberation Organization. A total of 69 nations maintain accredited missions with permanent resident diplomatic staff to the Vatican. This theocratic state is also active in a number of international organizations, with permanent "observer" status in the United Nations. It also has delegations within the International Atomic Energy Agency, and the UN Industrial Development Organization. It has a staff of slightly over 3,000 employees working in Vatican City, and is a member of the World Trade Organization.

  The special status has provided the Roman Catholic Church with extraordinary political influence throughout the world. Critics say that the Vatican wields considerable advantage in affecting the course of social and political developments across the globe, especially in issues pertaining to population control; rights for women, gays and other groups; and human rights. As the Banco Ambrosiano affair suggested, through institutions like the IOR the Vatican accumulated financial wealth and power involving the papacy in an unsavory arrangement with gangsters, rogue political operators and quite possibly even murder.


  Beginning in 1998, the Calvi affair was back in the news when the family of the late financier had his body exhumed. The new autopsy confirmed that Calvi was murdered elsewhere, and his corpse then hanged from beneath Blackfriar's Bridge. Investigators caught a major break in the case when in December, 2002, Mafia kingpin Antonio Giuffee told police that Calvi was murdered in part for absconding with mob money being laundered through Banco Ambrosiano.

  It is known that as the bank collapsed, Calvi approached friends in the Vatican to cover losses. He allegedly told associates in the Holy See that unless Ambrosiano was protected, he would expose powerful men in Italian finance and politics. Calvi disappeared the day after those frantic phone calls to the Vatican, along with the briefcase packed with sensitive documents.

  Leading the effort to solve the mystery of Roberto Calvi's murder has been Carlo Calvi, the banker's son who left Italy in 1977 and now lives in Montreal, Canada.

  His father, says Carlo Calvi, "was a dynamic businessman but not a good judge of people."

  Police and prosecutors have zeroed in on four suspects now on trial: Flavio Carboni; his former girlfriend Manuela Kleinzig; and Pippo Calo and Ernesto Diotallevi, two "fixers" with close ties to the Mafia.

  There are concerns, though, that the four could be scapegoats for a wider conspiracy, and that significant aspects of the case implicating the Vatican, government agencies, other banks and special interests could be conveniently ignored. The judge in the current proceedings, Mario D'Andra, has been vehement in demanding a swift trial.

  "Let's try to keep in mind that this is a trial about facts that happened almost 24 years ago," he declared. And Carboni's attorney, Renato Borzone has argued that there is no proof of his client's participation in any murder, charging Italian prosecutors with "relying on a phony testimony by turncoats" in order to make their case.

  On the opening day of the proceedings, Borzone told the court, "Today, a new battle begins to find the truth about Calvi's death.

  Carlo Calvi theorizes that while mobsters may have executed his father, "the murder was organized by politicians. The Mafia had simply the role of carrying out the murder."

  <b>Questions linger not only about who killed Roberto Calvi, but who ordered the murder.</b>

-- Conrad F. Goeringer,
November 16, 2005<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

"Oh it's all a coincidence" said the Hindus.
<i>Of course</i> it is:
- Italian Helena in charge. But another in the long line of catholic infiltrators into non-catholic governments. (Previously this role was filled by Jesuits and the converts they tutored, like in China. But we got our own alien publicly-catholic entity with loyalties to the Bishop of Rome which we can point out clearly for being an alien catholic and traitor to Bharatam. Buddhist Vietnam had a catholic dictator too, but he looked Vietnamese and in the hole where his heart ought to have been there was the void of a christian traitor).
- To prop up Santa Antonia, she is set up with a whole puppet cabinet filled with public christians, crypto christians (like Ambika Soni), and sell-out traitors.
- Mafia-style 'suicide' murders of people who know too much or are in the way.
- Hindu money stolen and put into 'neutral' Swiss accounts. Let's move it to catholic Austria and then to catholic Italy and then to the Vatican bank. Stoopid Hindoos will never know.

And some notes and links.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A dictator and the fascist, anti-Semitic founder of Opus Dei, and more:
    <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some of the sainthood choices, though, are prompting controversy.
    The theocratic dictator and 15th century Girolamo Savonarola was approved last month.
    <b>John Paul also attracted controversy early in his pontificate when he beatified Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, the founder of the Opus Dei group who was a virulent anti-Semite and fascist sympathizer.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

From: Pope running "Saint factory"? John Paul beatifies monk accused of mental illness, fraud, philandering<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

- Lawsuits against Vatican for helping nazis escape and stealing from Holocaust victims (don't be shocked, it's what christianism does):

- On Vatican Rat Lines:
But to understand the full extent of that, I needed to read all of
http://freetruth.50webs.org/Appendix4.htm <b>"What is the Vatican Hiding"</b>

- ClericalFascism site:
About the following in the previous post:
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Apr 6 2009, 05:48 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Apr 6 2009, 05:48 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->2. http://web.archive.org/web/20080115233455/....line/vat13.htm
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b> FLASHLINE

    In Italy, a likely member of P-2 was <b>Cardinal Paolo Bertoli</b>, an official with the church's diplomatic corps. It was Bertoli who introduced Liccio Gelli to the head of the Vatican Bank, Paul Marcinkus. Another entree for both Gelli and Calvi into the Vatican was Italian lawyer and businessman Umberto Ortolani, who in WWII served in the intelligence corps. Ortolani, another P-2 member, was also a enrolled in the Catholic <b>Knights of Malta</b> -- a group which included leading American and European business and intelligence community leaders -- and was elevated by Pope Paul VI to the official status of "Gentleman of His Holiness" within the Holy See.

3. http://web.archive.org/web/20080214164536/...line/calvi5.htm
  Gelli, like Sindona, enjoyed unprecedented access to the Vatican thanks to his close friendship with Cardinal Paolo Bertoli of the Holy See's Diplomatic Corps. Bertoli is known to have introduced Gelli to Paul Marcinkus. Another close associate and member of this "Gang of Four" was Umberrto Ortolani, a former OVRA Intelligence Officer and co-patron for Calvi while he was moving up in the Banco Ambrosiano. Ortolani was also tied to <b>a secretive Roman Catholic order known as the Knights of Malta</b>, and was elevated by Pope Paul VI to the status of "Gentleman of his Holiness." He also sponsored Liccio Gelli for membership in the <b>Knights of Malta</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The catholic church has many little bands of faithful who give them deniability while carrying out their more messy operations.
The Knights of Malta mentioned above are yet another of their nazi and fascist (and anti-semitic, of course) catholic gang of terrorists, a la Opus Dei:

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Jan 15 2009, 06:41 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Jan 15 2009, 06:41 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJu...odAmericans.pdf
<b>Good Americans by John Judge, 1983</b>
A document about the German Nazis, the earlier oryanists, taken by the US after world war II (and who were soon after happily working in the CIA and other official US depts).
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A group of the most fanatically conservative elements of the Catholic Church, men who still supported the inquisition in Spain and who used flagellation as prayer, formed a lay order known as <b>Opus Dei, the Works of God.[4]</b> These were joined in rank by the ancient military order of the church <b>’ the secretive Knights Hospitallers, or the Knights of Malta.</b> [ 5 ] Their ultimate objective was the downfall of the new Soviet government. No method or means was too extreme, <b>so these forces backed and helped to create Franco in Spain, Mussolini in Italy, and Hitler in Germany.</b> Some of the U.S. firms continued their financial trade and support of the fascists throuphout all of World War II, with Russia as the target.[6]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]93227[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

It's always interesting to note how effective the catholic church's PR and info suppression is. In India you still have Hindus saying that the evanjehadis (fundamentalist christians) are supposedly the real threat to Bharatam and not the catholic church. Uhhh, No. The catholic church has made it a commonplace in its history to pull down governments and convert nations. And it has gruesome ways of doing it which it will not shrink from employing if and when it possibly can. Sure the evanjehadis are terrorists (all of christianism is). But the catholic church has made a science of it. The catholic church is at least as scary as islamic jihad and actually more likely to be successful and get away with absolutely everything. Unlike islamic jihad, it actually plans its moves in advance. It occasionally gambles and loses (like when it fully backed and actually helped construct nazism/fascism in WWII, and now it does everything to cover up this history. Whereas, had it won, it would be applying its nazi success story everywhere). Usually, it makes sure it wins.

Hindus ought to remember that in Bharatam, between 75%-80% of the christian sheep are catholics. All sleepers. Their first loyalty is to the pope. In fact, in this world, their *sole* loyalty is to the pope and then his representatives. This is A RULE. (Only NL catholics are not necessarily loyal to the pope, since they basically got collectively condemned by the vatican for supporting the Dutch protestants against the oppressive catholic Spanish invaders in the 80 Year War. The Dutch who sided with the pope are the Belgians and they think the NL Dutch are damned forevahhhh. Another exception seems to be Chinese catholics whom the communist Chinese govt wisely does not allow to have the pope/vatican as its ultimate head.)
Anyway, Indian catholics are loyal to the pope/Vatican above all else in the world. He is gawd's representative on earth for them. They will *never* be loyal to Bharatam first. It is against their religion to expect them to disobey the pope on any Indian matters that go contrary to the vatican - because hellfire threatens them for not obeying the 'vicar of christ'/pope (as the bishop of Rome now calls itself). Only heretic catholics would do such a thing (Hilda Raja is an example; actually she's a heretic christian and had she lived in Europe a few centuries back the inquisition would have burnt her. Since the church no longer commands supreme power, in this psecular age, such people have been allowed/able to survive. But they do not represent catholicism; they don't represent christianism either.)
For Hindus to expect catholic christians in India to behave otherwise shows either ignorance of catholicism or a foolish naivete that goes contrary to all facts. Catholics of England were loyal to the pope and were going to retake the heretical protestant country for the catholic church (hence the Gunpowder Plot saga). Catholics of WWII Yugoslavia, Catholics of Ukraine and Russia today. All are catholic first and hence loyal to the pope first.

All of the Dharmic subcontinent has more to fear of catholicism than of other christianisms. While other christianisms are certainly violent and genocidal, they are not as ruthlessly successful as catholicism. It has more chance to succeed, and ultimately it is more determined: it will wait for centuries if that's what it takes, and it will still try to re-implement its plans.

This is not a threat. It is not a conspiracy theory of course. And it's not a scare-story either. It is just the plain simple fact of the catholic church. (Just like individual born-again fundies are convinced they are right and go to any lengths to missionise=terrorise - it does not matter to them whether they lie, kill, breakup families or literally genocide communities - the catholic church's mindset is exactly the same. Except that, instead of being an individual, they are an institution. A monolith. And instead of having the short lifespan of an individual evanjehadi or the rather brief existence of born-again orgs, the catholic church's objective is over 1.5 millennia old, and acts with a singleminded purpose.) Can read the ex-Franciscan monk Joseph McCabe or even people like Baron Avro Manhattan for confirmation (and they have more to say on this). For example: for centuries the Vatican planned to take Orthodox Russia or bring it down. The intention is still on the cards, and just as high up on the implementation agenda and just as important for the Roman church as ever. It will keep trying until 1. It succeeds; OR 2. Christianism/catholicism no longer exists.
Two things.

1. Bear with. My point eventually has to do with the following linked to by Bodhi:
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Apr 7 2009, 03:10 PM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Apr 7 2009, 03:10 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:red'>Truth about Rahul’s MPhil </span>

CHENNAI: Rahul Gandhi appears to have been economical with the truth on his affidavit while filing his election nomination papers in Amethi this weekend.
He enrolled under the name ‘Raul Vinci’, a pseudonym given by the British authorities in a common practice as there are a good number of VVIP wards from around the world enrolled at British educational institutions. The pseudonym came to light during the 2004 elections in the Telegraph and the Hindu.
[right][snapback]96183[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><b>Comments at the ExpressBuzz link Bodhi gave, include the following:</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Rajiv Ghandi had converted to Christianity and changed the name to Roberto and married the Italian Christian Edvige Antonia Albina Maino who was presented in front of Rajiv Gandhi in Cambridge by Archbishop Paul Casimir Marcinkus</b> alias Paul the Gorilla Marcinkus. Now She has the illegal name of Sonia Gandhi. Rajiv Ghandi and Antonia Maino had one daughter and one son by name Bianka and Raul. For the Indian public these names are presented as Prianka and Rahul. Rahul is also holding an Italian passport in the name of Raul Gandhi. Rahul Gandhi married Juanita daughter of a Colombian heroin peddler. The marriage was conducted anonymously in the island of Tenerife in Canary Islands. Juanita holds a Venezuelan passport

By n.krishna
4/7/2009 9:47:00 AM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Compare with items on the Vatican Banker Calvi murder case from 2 posts above (more mentions of the same entity 'Paul Marcinkus' in that post, I am not repeating all instances):
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Calvi had been on the run using a false passport and numerous aliases following the collapse of his Banco Ambrosiano, a financial institution that partnered and laundered money for <b>the Institute for Religious Works (IOR), the Holy See's bank headed by Archbishop Paul Marcinkus.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->http://web.archive.org/web/20080115233455/http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/vat13.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->  In Italy, a likely member of P-2 was Cardinal Paolo Bertoli, an official with the church's diplomatic corps. <b>It was Bertoli who introduced Liccio Gelli to the head of the Vatican Bank, Paul Marcinkus.</b> Another entree for both Gelli and Calvi into the Vatican was Italian lawyer and businessman Umberto Ortolani, who in WWII served in the intelligence corps. Ortolani, another P-2 member, was also a enrolled in the Catholic Knights of Malta -- a group which included leading American and European business and intelligence community leaders -- and was elevated by Pope Paul VI to the official status of "Gentleman of His Holiness" within the Holy See.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. What a holy coincidence. It's like some morbid game of 6 Degrees Of Separation. Maybe there's a reason all these 'suicide' murders and money launderings are so similar after all.
And here's Paul Marcinkus' buddy, the nazi ustashi helper:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Gelli was welcome in the homes of Italy's leading bankers, industrialists and church officials. He had been a member of the Black Shirts Battalion in Italy, and served with the fascists during the Spanish civil war. With the advent of WW II, he became oberleutnant in the Nazi SS assigned as liaison with the elite Herman Goring Division, and developed close ties to the OVRA, or Italian Secret Service.

  <b>Gelli was also involved with a Croatian priest, Krujoslav Dragonovic, a man instrumental in operating a smuggling service known as the "Vatican ratline."</b> Hundreds of ex-Nazis and clerical fascists were successfully smuggled out of Europe using Vatican passports and other transit instruments. Funds from the <b>IOR</b> often helped in the re-settlement of the war criminals, and spoils from the Third Reich looting spree were sequestered in the untouchable vaults of the Vatican bank.

  Gelli went on to establish an impressive list of international contacts. [...]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Their crimes reach to here.

2. Intriguing comments at the Raj2004 entry copied in a post somewhere above: http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/04/rob...e-dropping.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Blogger  witan said...</b>

    <b>1. Maneka Gandhi's father (a Sikh) was also "found dead", and there were suspicions at that time he might have been murdered.</b>
    2. The news says Rajinder Vadra's body was cremated. Christians do not like cremation. Was Rajinder Vadra a Hindu? Please also see: Vadra farm hosts RSS school, shakhas , in Indian Express, 09 March 1998: “Sanjay Manu Vadera Farm, the favourite retreat of the Vadras, has a tastefully done-up farmhouse, a swimming pool -- and Saraswati Shishu Mandir -- a school run by the RSS. Om Prakash Vadera, the family patriarch and the uncle of Robert Vadra, says he donated the school to the RSS in 1995. "I am the permanent chairman of the school," he adds. (The family uses different spellings for their surname.)”
    All this revive the old question, what religion (if any) do Priyanka, Rahil (aka Rahul), and Sonia follow? It is important, because today a couple of hours back, I saw on TV, Rahil and Sonia at a havan performed for propitiating the gods before Sonia filed her "nomination" at Rae Bareilli.
    If Rajinder Vadra was a Christian, why was he cremated? Was it for preventing possible exhumation of his body for forensic tests?

    4/06/2009 4:38 AM
<b>Blogger Guruprasad said...</b>


    Another interesting observation is why did a converted christian's body cremated and that too in such a haste? Is somebody trying to hide some evidence here



    4/06/2009 6:57 AM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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