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Nexus Between Entities Influencing India
Can't remember if all the following characters were covered on this thread already. As seen at the link to follow:

Admiral Ramdas + wife Lalita Ramdas + their spawn Kavita Ramdas + her Paki husband and islamic offspring + Lalita's brother + his wife the muslimah.


Quote:nice place to drop a neutron bomb: August 14 in SF: Joint Celebration of India and Pakistan's Independence days

aug 9th, 2010

you can get a whole lot of the appeasers, wagah candle-holders, and other assorted traitors and useful idiots in one fell swoop.

why aren't vijay prashad, angana, and biju mathew not present, i wonder? more pressing engagements -- like pressing their lips to pakistani bottoms?

why are there so many addled cockamamie hindu women (eg. lalita ramdas who coyly does not mention that she is married to a mohammedan pakistani) [color="#800080"](actually, her daughter)[/color] involved in this nonsense? notice that every single pakistani woman speaks up for pakistan's interests, but half the indian hindu women do too.

[color="#800080"](But they're *not* Hindus: people aren't Hindus just 'cause their names are still Hindu. There are many seculars with Hindu names in India. And, nowadays, many christians besides - wandering around with stolen Hindu names.

Moreover, people who bat for christoislamism are by definition not Hindus: they are anti-Hindus and always traitors. Hence Lolita Rammdas and her daughter Cavity are both islamaniacs, just like her husband and brother.)[/color]

must be something in the education system in india.

[color="#800080"](Yeah. It's called de-Hinduisation. 1) Hindu -> 2) Cultural-Hindu/Nationalist -> 3) nationalist/patriot [i.e. sentimentality] -> 4) secular/general disinterest and apathy -> 5) psecular/crypto anti-Hindu -> 6) public christoislamaniac.

The point of no return happened in step 2 - with the de-Hinduisation of the Hindu. The rest simply followed, usually taking place from one generation to the next. Humans are strange ideological creatures. Some weed of an ideology always takes the place when a space is created.)[/color]

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Tatiana Deogirikar <tanya@stanford.edu>

[color="#800080"](What an "interesting" name.)[/color]

Date: 2010/8/9

Subject: August 14 in SF: Joint Celebration of India and Pakistan's Independence days

To: Center for South Asia <southasia@lists.stanford.edu>

On the 64th Anniversary of Pakistan and India's Independence

[color="#0000FF"]Friends of South Asia and Global Fund for Women[/color]

[color="#800080"](Really? So, will the women of the globe actually get to see these funds? Hmmm?)[/color]

invite you to

We Refuse to Be Enemies:

A panel discussion on the peace process between India and Pakistan

[color="#800080"](Where peace, as we're told, means islam. (But islam does not mean peace, of course: the meaning is not two-way. Islam means submission. So the sentence actually reads: "A panel discussion on the submission process btw India and Pukestan.)[/color]


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rraajjeevv said...

Lalita Ramdas is the wife of Admiral L Ramdas. It is their daughter, Kavita Ramdas who is married to a Pakistani.

8/09/2010 10:13 AM

KapiDhwaja said...

Where is 'South Asia' btw, can't find it on the map. Tried google earth too:-)

8/09/2010 11:22 AM

abhijna said...

Ms. Lalita Ramdas married to Ret. Adm. L. Ramdas. Their daughter (Kavita Ramdas) married to a Pakistani. I am not sure whether she converted to Islam or not, but her daughter's name is a typical Muslim name.

Anyway, Ms. Lalita Ramdas's brother married to a Muslim woman. May be you should go through this article.


8/09/2010 12:43 PM

M. Patil said...

This Ramdas family is a disgrace to Hindu community and India.

b.t.w the crowd at these South Asian events is sparce. There is more crown at family gatherings in Bay Area. South Asian tag is just for SAJA type folks, not for highly qualified and high achieving Desis.

8/09/2010 9:26 PM


Quote:that idiot admiral ramdas -- his daughter married a paki, and now he's the pakis' biggest ambassador in india.
I'm sure he was always Pukestan's ambassador. And that's why his wife and brother-in-law are perfect for him, and the apple didn't far fall from the tree: his daughter is a Mrs Paki and granddaughter is a muslimah.

this bit from Radha Rajan:

Quote:Defaming the army and the police takes me back to two events -- the meeting that Nirmala Deshpande and Admiral Ramdas arranged in madras with 150 Pakistanis among whom were retired army men. One of them, Gen.Karamat Ali declared, don't take too much pride in your army. There will come a day when your army will be as defamed as the Pakistani army.
Ramdas is buddies with Nirmala Deshpande who works with that infiltrator smarmy uglyface ("swamy Agnivesh") who works closely with evangelicals. All anti-Hindus motivated by their individual ideologies to destroy heathenism which stands in their way of dar-ul-islam/India-for-jeebus/communotopia.

Ain't cryptoism grand. And that's why exposing people's ideological motivations - i.e. their christoislamicommuni "sympathies" or rather identities - would have been useful (~2 decades ago).

A little sidetracking, but cryptos with Hindu names reminded me: recently came across a link - I think via acta indica? - on an "Indian journalist" and cryptochristist on fire for jeebus called "Vishal Arora", complete with his openly hyper-evangelical connections like wife etc. Of course he doesn't want to publicly admit to being on fire for jeebus. And that is why heathens should expose just *that* aspect of cryptos. Everything else becomes self-destructive collusion.

At least this Vishal Arora admits to being a christian - once his religious affiliation are brought to light - but it's his wife's affiliations that show the extent of what motivates these people in everything they do, especially everything they (wish to) appear as doing "secularly". <- There is no such thing as "secular" anti-heathen activism in christoislamaniacs. It is always religiously/ideologically motivated.

And more generally: when it comes to christoislamism, spouses are always indicative. And that's why exposing the spousal connection - such as with Lalita Ramdas' brother and her daughter Kavita Ramdas, such as with the christianism of both wives of N.Ram - is always ... enlightening to those (who ought to be) concerned.

Anyway, when the ideologies driving people are not transparent (and are kept hidden), the onlooking audience - assuming impartiality where there is none in reality - can easily be manipulated into drawing the wrong conclusions. E.g. in the case of the original article of this post: "Oh, how sweet, Indian Hindu people and Paki muslim people are joining hands under a unified identity of Friends of South Asia to work towards bringing about peace. Obviously they are the Good Guys."

Something that's self-evident, but it doesn't hurt to explicitly state it: [color="#0000FF"]there is no such thing as a Hindu married to a christoislamic. Whatever else it may or may not be, it's not a Hindu.[/color] By definition.

I recently read somewhere that Aristotle left behind this: "Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society."

Sounds about right. (Actually, I'd make that last bit "a practically dead society".)

And is modern de-Hinduising India, apathetic as it now is towards all Dharmic interests, not suddenly "mystifyingly" the most tolerant towards inter-marriage with christoislamania - when in all preceding Hindu generations, the family would very Dharmicly break all ties with such traitors and would never recognise these as Hindus (because they specifically aren't Hindu for marrying into something that is in its very essence inimical to the Hindu religion - i.e. christoislamism). And this is but symptomatic of the larger error, which originates in how de-Hinduising India is tolerant towards the religion of christoislamism itself (and is incapable of any other position than tolerance, because it was programmed into exactly this attitude, which is but the other aspect of the de-Hinduisation/secularisation process): everything from protectionism to outright defence/apologetics is to be witnessed.

And saying No to christoislamania - which is the natural Hindu reaction-mechanism/anti-body - is now decried as "intolerant, fundamentalist, communalist" by even the seculars of Hindu parentage. When, in reality, such a reaction is simply Hindu (and more than Hindu, it is universally "heathen"). All response/behaviour contrary to this is simply the effects of subversion.
Heard something worrisome. Maybe it is a wild conspiracy theory but it comes from a decent source.

It appears that just before the Vajpayee government India gave up control to UK. Our budgets are prepared by the British high commission in January and then our politicians are trained to repeat like parrots.

Can someone verify if this is true or not? If it is true we have lost all to the global bankers who continue to suck us dry. Seems bulk of the CWG loot went to them with the real number being 500 crores

Again, please don't dismiss this outright. I am pretty shaken up.
^^^ Damn these guys are so clever. As soon as India fell back into colonialism the song and dance about India shining, Ms. Indias etc started. These faux tricks keep the poor Indians happy just like the emporers new clothes.
[quote name='Niki' date='23 September 2010 - 06:49 AM' timestamp='1285204294' post='108435']

Heard something worrisome. Maybe it is a wild conspiracy theory but it comes from a decent source.

It appears that just before the Vajpayee government India gave up control to UK. Our budgets are prepared by the British high commission in January and then our politicians are trained to repeat like parrots.

Can someone verify if this is true or not? If it is true we have lost all to the global bankers who continue to suck us dry. Seems bulk of the CWG loot went to them with the real number being 500 crores

Again, please don't dismiss this outright. I am pretty shaken up.


There are indications like that. It is actually geo political and much larger issue.

A Judgement Based On Populist And Political Sensitivities

By Dr John Dayal

01 October, 2010


The judgment of the Lucknow Bench of the Allahabad High court today on the Babri Masjid-Ram Janmabhoomi dispute is patently based on populist and political sensitivities, rather than on points of law. The judges have given a legal cloak to popular Hindu mythology that the Lord Rama was born at the very spot where the mosque was built over the ruins of a Hindu temple sometime in 1528 AD during the reign of Emperor Babar. Though the fractured judgement does not bring a closure to the dispute, Hindu groups, who see the demolition of the mosque on 6 December 1992 as the natural outburst of an injured majority sentiment, have hailed this as a victory and the RSS chief Bhagwat has called upon all Hindus and others to join in a national campaign to build a Ram temple at the spot. All sides have three months to move the Supreme court.

Jurists and law scholars have been left numb at the bench’s effort to play “village mediator” and divide the disputed land in a three way distribution – one part to the Muslims and two parts to two different Hindu groups. This has surprised most because it was not even a prayer by any one of the many litigants over the last sixty years. But perhaps it also provides the way to future peace with a temple and a mosque coming up, this time lawfully, in the future.

The Muslim wakf board will almost certainly move the Supreme Court asking for clarification on their suit that the property be declared at a mosque which is owned by the board – an argument partially refused by the high court.. Even some Hindu groups may contest the decision, demanding that the entire land be handed over to them.

There is no doubt that a jubilant Hindu majority will sue for peace, and this could see their right wing religious groups ensuring that there is no trouble. The onus is also on the Muslim community to ensure that its extreme elements do not rebel against the judgment. “We will not surrender”, a Muslim leader, himself a lawyer, says, quite reflecting the rather depressed mood of the community.

For other minority communities, there are disturbing signals from the judgement. The courts are not ruling on points of law, but on the feelings and faith of people, which gives the majority community an extraordinary power in a multi cultural nation such as India and can have serious implications in other disputes of this nature.

What has been salutary in the existence of the past few days has been the preparedness of the Union government and the state governments to take the most strict precautions so there was no flare up violence between the communities. The Indian army, the Air Force and hundreds of thousands of state militia and police forces were mobilised across the country, extraordinary precautions including a modicum of censorship of SMS and mass mailings were taken, and thousands of people taken into protective custody on the eve of the judgement. This decisiveness is welcomed by the minorities who, unfortunately still have more faith in central armed forces than the local police for their security.

The disputed land is currently in the custody of the Union government, as is the final responsibility of maintaining peace in a land that seen so much bloodshed over the last 19 years since the former deputy prime minister, Lal Krishan Advani, led a religious crusade across the nation, his land march leaving tens of thousands dead in Hindu Muslim riots which reached their culmination in the demolition of the Babri mosque in the afternoon of 6th December 1992.

Dr John Dayal is Secretary General, All India Christian Council
Added few lines on Bahar and the Thapar family.
Omar Khalidi was killed in a freak train accident near Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Boston, on Monday.

According to Khalidi's wife Nigar, the writer, who was suffering from diabetics and insomnia, fainted and fell before a train that was approaching at the MIT railway station.

Read more: Noted scholar from city dies in US - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/...z16nhJcNIZ
The Radialogue Wound

New words are an annual media byproduct without a balance sheet. The profit is not immediately visible, and loss not worth the count. The New York Times has produced a 30-plus list that seems more obligatory than essential. Most words show the strains of artifice. Fortunately, terms like "sofalize" (socialising from home, through the Net) will die a natural death after their 15 seconds of fame. The hideous "mansplainer" just might get 15 minutes of life, since it denotes a compulsive male opinion-giver and is, therefore, perfectly suited for TV pundits, but it is really too weak to survive.

"Porno scanner" (synonym for the full-body security search at American airports) down for quick execution. Others are so tortured they seem to have spent time at Guantanamo. "Poutrage" (false anger) has clearly been put through a sadistic lexicographer's tweezer. The accidental genius of Sarah Palin, which gave us "refudiate", will survive as a joke as long as Sarah Palin survives as a joke.

But I do hope two words acquire momentum. "Coffice" comes from South Korea, a busy little country where the diligent can turn an Internet café into an office for the price of a cup of coffee. In India, of course, we would need to rearrange the word a bit, since our speciality is turning an office into a café. Ficecof, anyone? Perhaps not. Any word that sounds like an interrupted gurgle can't be good for conversation.

"Halfalogue" also has the feel of a strangled academic's last wish, so all optimism about its future must be guarded. It means half an overheard conversation; and that makes it interesting. It first appeared in a semiobscure research paper, published in the journal Psychological Science, titled "Overheard Cell-Phone Conversations: When Less Speech is More Distracting", which multiplies its interest level. What a natural for Delhi's chatterati: "The Niira halfalogue was just too much, wasn't it? Do you think Manmohan carries a mobile phone?"

In fact, the prime minister doesn't. Niira Radia, apparently, had at least eight mobile phones, only one of which was tapped. If one phone could inflict so much havoc, we can only wonder, enrapt in awe, at the destruction that a tap on all eight mobiles would have caused. Once upon a time, not very long ago, a mobile phone was at best an instrument of need and at worst a symbol of self-importance. Radia has turned it into an instrument of caution for the large majority whose imagination is restrained by limits, and a weapon of duplicity for the few blessed with Machiavellian wile. If you are confident that your phone is tapped, you can always plant any story you want about anyone you dislike.

Even the most extravagant astrologer could never have predicted that Dr Manmohan Singh would be fatally wounded by a mobile phone. He has withstood, with great calm and fortitude, six years of Opposition artillery without a scratch on his reputation. Suddenly, he has become victim of friendly fire. A remarkable aspect of a scandal that has weakened the Government to the point of fragility is that conversations which revealed part of the truth were between politicians, lobbyists, businessmen and journalists on the same side. This is collusive detail, not accusatory condemnation, from lobbyists and journalists who were friends of those in power. An investigative arm of the Government exposed a Cabinet minister. The lethal icing came from the anonymous sources who leaked the Radia tapes. Their names may not be public knowledge, although they are privately known, but this much is certain: officers of this Government were intent on the destruction of its credibility.

"An old Chinese saying" is a tautology, for all Chinese sayings are old. The new ones are trapped in artificial ideology; the old ones were nurtured in the crucible of observation. Do not judge a man, goes one, until the coffin is closed, for he still has time to make a mistake. The prime minister made one mistake. He did not stop the DMK loot when he should have and could have. He permitted daylight robbery from the nation's treasury in order to survive. The true tenor of the Congress-DMK equation is revealed in a letter written by former telecom minister A. Raja, in which he virtually orders the prime minister not to interfere on telecom pricing. The moment Dr Singh meekly conceded, his credibility cracked. The Radia tapes reveal the haemorrhage of a self-inflicted wound.

Dr Singh came to office in 2004, but took a while to come to power. He may remain in office, but his power has begun to ebb.

Quote:Hindu strategic affairs editor Varadarajans wife Nandini Sundar is a known supporter & abettr of Maoists. She apparntly helped them hide
I am little suspicious of this organization "Madras Institute of Development Studies". It is chaired by one P.Radakrishna {http://www.mids.ac.in/radhakrishna.htm}. He has written this book "India, the perfidies of power: A Social Critique". {[url="http://books.google.com/books?id=DTmVbBoYb0YC&lpg=PP1&ots=IsN8DZN5sP&dq=p.%20radhakrishnan%22%20perfidies%20of%20power&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false"]link[/url]} His tone is against Hindus and BJP; he does not treat BJP in a neutral perspective. He even quotes Jesus Christ once. Then he goes on to say"

Quote:IT IS a cruel irony that the meaning and message of these words of wisdom should find their evil transmogrification in the land of the Buddha, the Apostles, and the Mahatma, a name a few.

The book seems to be a collection of essays he penned in "The Hindu".

He writes (wrote) regularly in "The Hindu", talks about Dalits in the book, uses the word "caste-Hindu", "Hinduisation of Ambedkar".
This is Nandini's blog: http://nandinisundar.blogspot.com/ She has a link to her resume.
[quote name='Swamy G' date='03 January 2011 - 05:54 AM' timestamp='1294013762' post='110088']

This is Nandini's blog: http://nandinisundar.blogspot.com/ She has a link to her resume.


So infuriating to find so many tambrams among the psecs
[quote name='Swamy G' date='03 January 2011 - 05:40 AM' timestamp='1294012936' post='110087']

I am little suspicious of this organization "Madras Institute of Development Studies". It is chaired by one P.Radakrishna {http://www.mids.ac.in/radhakrishna.htm}. He has written this book "India, the perfidies of power: A Social Critique". {[url="http://books.google.com/books?id=DTmVbBoYb0YC&lpg=PP1&ots=IsN8DZN5sP&dq=p.%20radhakrishnan%22%20perfidies%20of%20power&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false"]link[/url]} His tone is against Hindus and BJP; he does not treat BJP in a neutral perspective. He even quotes Jesus Christ once. Then he goes on to say"

The book seems to be a collection of essays he penned in "The Hindu".

He writes (wrote) regularly in "The Hindu", talks about Dalits in the book, uses the word "caste-Hindu", "Hinduisation of Ambedkar".


P.Radhakrishnan does not appear to be a professor at MIDS right now. Look at the [url="http://www.mids.ac.in/faculty.htm"]faculty link[/url]. Your link points to R. Radhakrishna, the MIDS chair, who is clearly someone else.

Yes, this organization is predominantly biased towards anti-Indian, pro-Tamil-nationalist, pro-'subaltern' causes. It is primarily a leftist echo chamber. Members of its faculty are an important source of articles for the Hindu.
Vishwas: Thanks for the correction. I overlooked the initial, as I was caught up on the missing "n" in "R, Radhakrishna's name. I did verify that the book I cited was released by MIDS, though.


Quote:Vatican stooge K G Balakrishnan Exposed by Kerala SC – ST federation

31/12/2010 10:22:08 HK

Kochi: Kerala SC – ST federation Advocate K V Kumaran, revealed explosive information about former Chief Justice of India K G Balakrishnan and his family. As revealed K G Balakrishnan is a Crypto Christian planted by Vatican as part of their global evangelisation agenda.

K G Balakrishnan's daughter and son in law Sri Nijan was sponsored by World Council of Church to complete higher education in law in London. World Council of Church is a Vatican sponsored organisation with an annual budget of 145 Billion dollar and their aim is global evangelisation.

K G Balakrishnan's father was one Mr Lookose who changed his name as Gopinathan to usurp the benefits of SC-ST Hindus.He later got retired in a high post from Kerala High court.

K G Balakrishnan was a pawn planted by Vatican to take favourable verdict for converted Christians in a case registered in 2004 with case number 180.

[color="#800080"](Lots of planted cryptos in India. And lots of sleepers. It's why exposing crypto-christianism and teaching heathens to identify crypto-christianism by its pattern of action was essential.)[/color]

Once get a favourable verdict converted Christians can get all benefits granted by Constitution to SC-ST Hindus. By this Vatican can intensify their conversion agenda. The forces who stand for Ranganatha Mishra report is also sponsored by Vatican and aims to bring constitution amendment to extend reservations to converted Christians.

A Memorandum was submitted by Kerala SC-ST Federation in 2006 to Indian President and copy of it were given to Prime Minister and CBI Director with full evidences that K G Balakrishnan is a Crypto christian who grabbed the benefits of genuine SC-ST Hindus.

Sri Nijan who is now exposed by Asianet was a Congres candidate in Njarrakkal in a SC-ST reserved seat. Sri Nijan is a practicing Christian who even openly went to worship in Church even on poll day making mockery of law of land. These fake name sake Hindus should be exposed and is doing more harm to SC- ST Hindus.

K G Balakrishnan was made High Court judge with special recruitment by former president K R Narayanan. K G Balakrishnan's brother another Crypto Christian Advocate K G Bhaskaran was earlier suspended from practice for taking bribe when his wife was Magistrate.Later this suspension was revoked following the interference of K G Balakrishnan. This tainted Advocate K G Bhaskaran was made Government pleader by Achuthanandan Government in Kerala. The complete silence of CPM over this KGB episode owe to their links with this tainted family.

Kerala SC-ST federation Executive Member C C Gangadharan was also present during the press meet called by advocate K V Kumaran.

Parrot: As few as the means are that are available to heathens to defend their heathenism from christianism, exposing crypto-christianism was one of them. A crucial one. (The other is to expose christianism itself.)

But even that option becomes severely hampered, because part of de-heathenisation is the subconscious implanting of protectionism of christianism, i.e. loss of immunity including even the ability to identify the enemy/that there is an enemy.

And when one has no immunity (hence no resistance) while one is being constantly battered by an enemy with a (long-term) Plan, single-minded purpose, the means, the Will, and the stomach (appetite!) for atrocity - the maths gets simple but very ugly. For the victim, I mean.

Don't mean to be relentlessly depressing, but the firestorm looks very imminent. While the fires may die down due to whatever causes, there's no promise that anything much/useful will be left after that (i.e. a separate problem now).
The comment to "Sonia’s plan to evangelize India" is very interesting -


Quote: raj

20/12/2010 08:21:56


PRATIBHA PATIL - CHRISTY FERNANDES ( Secretary of Pratibha Patil )

(Rajni Patil, in a press conference claimed that her husband was murdered by Pratibha Patil's brother G.N.Patil , She accused Pratibha Patil of shielding her brother. On 13 July 2007 Rajani Patil moved the Bombay High Court demanding that the CBI . Rajni Patil's petition stated that the CBI, which was directed by the Aurangabad bench of the Bombay High Court to probe the case in February, must question Pratibha before 19 July , when she win as PRESIDENT OF INDIA case end)


[color="#800080"](Of course she would have. Doesn't that explain a lot - about a lot?)[/color]



You may understand by name - A. K ANTONY , Oscar Fernandes , Margaret alva just like so many

Then half Christian family – Vayalar Ravi , Arjun Singh , Shashi Tharoor , SALMAN KHURSHEED just like so many you can find

[color="#800080"](Plus Arjun Singh is married to a christian.

Also "half christian" means 1 parent is christian. That doesn't mean that the offspring is "half christian" - no such thing. Besides, the general rule is that christian married to heathens *always* make sure that their kids are christians. So the above are more than "half christian". Which explains why A Singh and Tharoor both made the marriage choices they did, with Tharoor's earlier Mrs being a Canadian working for some US dept to do with nuclear stuff. Already mentioned somewhere in this thread probably.)[/color]

In key post we may found so many some famouse

[color="#FF0000"]P. J. Thomas - Central Vigilance Commissioner

P. K. Hormis Tharakan - RAW CHIEF

Navin Chawla FORMER - ELECTION COMMISSION OF INDIA (his wife is doing missionary work Rajastan)

[color="#0000FF"]Former Chief Justice KG Balakrishnan & current Human Right Commission (fist he converted he say he did convert for study after thet he reconvert to get job)[/color]

(See previous post)

Chidambaram -- >Nalini Chidambaram Senior Advocate – Her main client is Christian missionary

(International christian data says christians in India to be 6%, ... Because of Nalini Chidambaram)

This all are some famous congress leaders


[color="#0000FF"]90% of All Printed & visual media[/color]

And that is why crypto-christianism ought to have been exposed.

That is why stating CHRISTIANISM wherever it is concerned was essential.

(Past tense.)

Now we just need a list of christoterrorists in ATS, CBI and Justice Dept. Don't people want to know?

Anyway, the main article:

Quote:Sonia’s plan to evangelize India

04/01/2011 03:40:03 Krishna - Courtesy: Wikipedia

Why Mr. Manmohan Singh is our Prime Minister?

Here we need to find how and why Sonia Gandhi selected him as the Prime Minister. No doubt, we have the right to know who is ruling our country and their whereabouts. First let us know briefly who this Sonia is.

Sonia Gandhi (born Edvige Antonia Albina Maino on 9 December 1946) is an Italian born. She was born to Stefano and Paola Maino in contrada Màini ("Maini street") in Lusiana, a little village 30 km from Vicenza in the region of Veneto, Italy.

She spent her adolescence in Orbassano, a town near Turin, being raised in a traditional Roman Catholic family and attending a Catholic school. Her father, a building contractor, died in 1983. Her mother and two sisters still live around Orbassano.

In 1964, she went to study English at the Bell Educational Trust's language school in the city of Cambridge. She met Rajiv Gandhi, who was enrolled in Trinity College at the University of Cambridge in 1965 at a Greek restaurant while working there, as a waitress to make ends meet. Sonia and Rajiv Gandhi married in 1968.

Mrs. Antonia Maino was given the name 'Sonia' by her late mother-in-law, Indira Gandhi. But there is no notification in the gazette regarding this change in name. This change of name runs in Nehru family is to fool the Indian public for their votes. Indira Gandhi was

Indira Priyadasini. Indira married as per Islamic rites Feroz Khan after converting herself to Islam. Indira’s muslim name was Maimuna Begum and later both had changed their name to fool the public of India on the advice of Ghandi by an affidavit in a court to Indira Gandhi and Feroz Gandhi.

At the end of Rajiv Gandhi's five years in office, the Bofors Scandal broke out. Ottavio Quattrocchi an Italian business man believed to be involved was said to be a friend of Sonia Gandhi, having access to the Prime Minister's official residence.

How Sonia became “Indian”

In 1980 her name appeared in the voter's list for New Delhi prior to her becoming an Indian Citizen. At the time she was still holding Italian Citizenship. A violation of Form 4 of the Registration of Electors Rules, 1960, which states that "Only the names of those who are citizens of India should be entered on the electoral rolls." When she did acquire Indian Citizenship, in April 1983, the same issue cropped up again, as her name appeared on the 1983 voter's list when the deadline for registering had been in January 1983.

Sonia’s connection with Swiss accounts

Swiss magazine Schweitzer Illustrierte in 1991 claimed that she was controlling accounts worth $2 billion dollars(Rs 9400 Crores) in her minor son's name.

Harvard scholar Yevgenia Albats cited KGB correspondence about payments to Rajiv Gandhi and his family, which had been arranged by Viktor Chebrikov,[35] which shows that KGB chief Viktor Chebrikov sought in writing an "authorization to make payments in U.S. dollars to the family members of Rajiv Gandhi, namely Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi and Paola Maino, mother of Sonia Gandhi" from the CPSU in December 1985.

Payments were authorized by a resolution, CPSU/CC/No 11228/3 dated 20 December 1985; and endorsed by the USSR Council of Ministers in Directive No 2633/Rs dated 20 December 1985. These payments had been coming since 1971, as payments received by Sonia Gandhi's family and "have been audited in CPSU/CC resolution No 11187/22 OP dated 10/12/1984.

In 1992 the media confronted the Russian government with the Albats disclosure. The Russian government confirmed the veracity of the disclosure and defended it as necessary for "Soviet ideological interest."

In 2008 her party appointed Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Singh was the only international leader to initially refuse data provided by the German authorities during 2008 Liechtenstein tax affair.

The above statement is self explanatory that why Mr.Manmohan Singh is her prime Minister, the puppet in her hands.

India's native traditionalists really have to let go of blindly-ethnic allegiances. These people merely look Indian - which wrongly translates as "Dharmics" in people's minds. They are not.

And it DOES make a difference - an ocean of difference - what their ideology is. It motivates them in everything, always.

Stolen from Gautam Sen's 2006 article. (Interruptions in purple are mine.)


[color="#0000FF"]The imminent specific danger India faces is its de jure territorial disintegration, accompanied by the casting to the winds of Hindu society and what promises it may embed. This is already happening in significant areas of the Indian subcontinent, including the Indian Union itself. Hindus are also facing the most diabolical and sophisticated assault from the Church, both Catholic and the various Protestant denominations. The Church enjoys a huge presence in the global media and within India too as well as possessing huge economic and organisational resources.[/color] The Churches have cleverly insinuated themselves into the imperial ambitions of their Western home states, reinforcing the political support they receive from these states for their nefarious engagement with the weak and the poor of the third world. The resulting danger of subversion is visible in everything from the vicious campaign by Michael Witzel and his colleagues against Hindus in California to the way the Dalit movement has been seized and subverted by various Churches. The latter rightly perceive the Dalits to be the most promising vehicles for forcing the retreat of those who identify themselves as Hindus and demoralising them.

[color="#0000FF"]This is a highly effective campaign, which most Hindu activists simply do not understand nor are they capable of comprehending in their current state of self-confident arrogance and blissful ignorance. Instead of the mostly tenuous cliches being peddled by Hindu activists everywhere one needs to read the history of Christianity with care.[/color] I would recommend Peter Brown’s, The Rise of Western Christendom, and Robert Bartlett’s, The Making of Europe in particular, for a start, to understand the immense longevity of their project for world domination. Islam remains their sole global rival. Hindus merely constitute a sideshow despite their supposed numerical strength, which is an oft-repeated empty fact that obfuscates by creating a silly sense of reassurance.

(I haven't read the above-recommended books. But I agree: must learn the history of christianism.

Also - by random chance - "history of christianism"-->"the making of Europe" is a good summary, in that the concept of "Europe" is owing to christianism.)

Experience of most societies tells us that there is no point berating Hindu politicians and their associates for behaving in a self-serving manner. The standard textbook theory shows convincingly that politicians in open, pluralist societies act like selfish egotists. They achieve power by auctioning policies in exchange for cash and votes. There is a vast and persuasive literature that outlines how the process works, from the role that political institutions play in it to contrasting representational outcomes between majoritarian (India) and proportional voting systems. The latter empowers small political parties more than the former. There is no reason to expect that pluralist politics will lead to a different high-minded outcome in India.

Politicians in all societies display the behavioural pattern required for their own survival. The espousal of conventional morality is only an aspect of their public relations and ideological sound bites are a means of communicating with their core supporters. These voters are the least likely to abandon them because they regard other alternatives as even less attractive. Thus, the actual policies implemented by political parties are designed to please voters who might actually defect to a rival. Of course there is a modest margin for truth and integrity in politics, but such principles are mostly honoured in the breach and have been marginalsed in India, more than in most other societies. Deceit and double-dealing are the norm in politics everywhere though Hindus perhaps excel in it unduly.


Still stolen from Gautam Sen's writings - from a Feb 2009 article this time.

(Interruptions in purple are mine again.)

Belongs in this thread because of reasons like the paragraph in big red letters (somewhere below).


The underlying dominance of Islam in West Bengal is obscured by the outward resilience of a superficially communist dispensation. At an opportune moment, a Muslim party will pose a deadly challenge to it in alliance with opportunistic parties like the Trinamul Congress. Many areas of UP, Bihar, Delhi as well as other states are effectively quasi-sovereign Muslims enclaves and access to them by legally constituted authorities minimal.

This is the life-and-death struggle that Hindus are unable to comprehend and resist. Instead the outflow of educated Hindus to a militantly evangelical US has created a diabolical situation in which they are overwhelmingly dependent on the US, and to a lesser degree the British market, for their livelihoods. Virtually every author from Mumbai, writing for the English speaking market, sought to downplay the role of terrorism. The scandalous disarray of India’s political class has been highlighted in recent weeks, without Hindus apparently unable to even comprehend the unfolding drama affecting their destiny. The UPA has descended to treasonous co-ordination of its pending general election campaign with governmental agencies in Pakistan, including, in effect, the ISI. The diabolical enemy of Hindu India, the US, has brokered a deal between India and Pakistan that includes the disingenuous arrest of 124 jehadis and measures like the closure of their Internet web sites, contrived to provide respite to Manmohan Singh’s beleaguered government. David Miliband, the British Foreign Secretary was evidently sent by the US to deliver a message that India must abandon, as a quid pro quo, its demand for the extradition of the planners of the Mumbai terror carnage. The idea that Pakistan will actually prosecute anyone and punish them for attacking India is laughable, but it will buy time for the UPA to apply the balm of forgetfulness to India. The Indian EAM, Pranab Mukherjee, of Murshidabad’s Jangipur Islamic constituency, which he bribed with 2100 crore rupees in 2006, obliged with alacrity, quite forgetting his periodic hypocritical belligerence towards Pakistan, all apparently intended to deceive. His subsequent delirious recanting of his initial surrender to India’s erstwhile colonial masters occurred because Congress Party managers evidently deemed such public acknowledgement impolitic.

Far from being indiscreet, British Foreign Secretary, David Miliband, has merely restated what has been British policy towards India since the 1940s, which has been to incite Islamic jehad to undermine it. The British Foreign Secretary rounded of his imperious visit to India by joining Rahul Gandhi on the campaign trail in Amethi, underlining the extent of India’s subordination to the Anglo-American imperialists. And Miliband, the lowly whippersnapper, gallingly added insult to injury by asserting that the Mumbai carnage was due to Indian policies in Kashmir. But this is all of a piece, which echoes the cynical and unflagging attempts of Britain’s elites since the late nineteenth century to damage Hindus as much as possible. Author Narinder Singh Sarila has documented the extent to which Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the butcher who sponsored the bloodletting in Calcutta on Direct Action Day in August 1946, was a mere pawn in British imperial designs to create a strategic hold over the Indian subcontinent. It is therefore cause for dismay that the NDA candidate for Prime Minister and his advisers have now embraced both the murderous Jinnah and the jehadi Deobandis. Where will it all end?

Alas, Hindus are in serious danger of reaching the point of no return in the very near future. Political circumstances are changing swiftly and will soon make it very difficult, if not impossible, for Hindus to recover from the onset of political, social and spiritual oblivion. The combination of modern communication technologies for brainwashing and political assault has placed Hindus in greater danger than at any time in their entire history. Hindus need to reflect deeply on the fact that their civilisational reach once included East, Southeast Asia and modern Iran and the latter itself encompassed territories today part of the Islamic Arab world. Islam and Christianity have subjugated all these regions in succession. Yet, no Hindu regards the fate of these vast lands as relevant to their current predicament and the political conquest threatening them. Most even dismiss the loss of vast additional territories in 1947 to murderous usurpers determined to destroy them and which includes areas once the cradle of their civilisation.

Hindus are also unable to grasp their effective dis-empowerment in significant areas of the Indian Union. Christians barely tolerate Hindus in the Northeast, which is an armed Christian enclave that will assert its political independence the moment the federal centre is embroiled in a crisis of authority. Muslims and Christians have long imposed a condominium in Kerala, but predictable rivalry between them for supremacy has arisen now that the common goal of curbing Hindus has been achieved. The initial political alliance between Muslims and Christians against Hindus followed by competition between them is the pattern likely to occur elsewhere in India. Tamil Nadu politics is dominated by Christians under the spurious guise of Dravidian irreligiousness and in concert with Islam. Andhra Pradesh is witnessing a remarkable surge of Christian conversions under an evangelical Chief Minister. However, Muslim resistance to Christian primacy will surface vengefully in the future since Muslims retain strong local historical roots, backed by significant numbers and ideological consciousness. The underlying dominance of Islam in West Bengal is obscured by the outward resilience of a superficially communist dispensation. At an opportune moment, a Muslim party will pose a deadly challenge to it in alliance with opportunistic scum like the Trinamul Congress. Many areas of UP, Bihar, Delhi as well as other states are effectively quasi-sovereign Muslims enclaves and access to them by legally constituted authorities minimal. A number of inter-linked reasons account for the disastrous decline of Hindu civilisation. Some of them are internal to the Hindu tradition and arise from their very own spiritual identity and historical legacy. Still others are accidental though consequential, such as the misadventure of one individual’s diabolical role in their society and the constitutional structure of the Indian polity inherited after Independence. India is suffering from the disastrous impact of the usurpation of political power by one individual, whose loyalty to Indian sovereign interests is suspect and who, in addition, is mainly motivated by private family aspirations for wealth. The constitutional structure of Indian politics has also guaranteed national disunity, by articulating and amplifying every domestic division and dispute for electoral advantage. Finally, India is facing determined assault by imperialists, who are deploying the advantages of modern technology and economics to subordinate it. [color="#FF0000"]All of these factors in combination seem to outweigh the ability of Hindus to respond in a farsighted way to protect their civilisation and assure a legacy to their children and grandchildren as well as the wider world.[/color]

A mortal external danger facing Hindus and India is the Christian Crusader State, the US. The US and its British, German and Scandinavian allies are assiduously engaged in evangelical conversion to destroy Hinduism once-and-for-all. As Sitaram Goel averred, Christianity and Islam are both political ideologies and, one should add, their fervent claims to divine inspiration subterfuge to deceive. (Both christianism and islam most certainly *believe* they are true religions. "Belief" in their claims to truth is what has ever made christoislamism behave in the brutal way it has. Communism is the cynical version of the christoclass mindvirus: it "knows" it's all a fraud and indeed insists that everything is a fraud, and yet nevertheless, it will use the "pervasive fraud" to brainwash the masses into mobilisation for its own cause.)

The US hatred for India is long-standing, having begun more or less from the moment India became independent in 1947. It has been the principal sponsor of India’s enemies in the region, with some sterling help from Britain’s duplicitous political elites. In the late 1960s, the US joined with China to undermine India, with Henry Kissinger in 1971 inviting the Chinese ambassador to the UN, Huang Hua, to advise his country to attack India. But Pakistan remained the main US instrument to torment it and collusion with its merciless butchers to commit genocide in Bangladesh was the most blatant example of evil US predilections towards Hindu India. Even at this very moment, the US government and its liberal media are working overtime to stop India punishing Pakistan by resorting to intrigues about a common enemy and pretending to chastise Pakistan when the Pakistani ISI was created in fact as an outsourced branch of the CIA.

FOSA's letter to NY Times on Godhra? http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/0...ldren.html
2G scam - 'The Hindu'-DMK nexus:


Quote:In our view, the coverage of the 2G scam and of A. Raja represents the lowest point for The Hindu in the recent period and raises serious ethical issues that need to be addressed without delay. We would be seeking a thorough enquiry and the fixing of accountability for this shameful episode.

Yours sincerely,

N. Murali

N. Ravi

Malini Parthasarathy

Another way to look at this is: Family bickering leading to washing dirty laundry in public. Probably this is the only way media can be saved.

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