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"Hindu terror" Eidolon
<!--QuoteBegin-agnivayu+Aug 30 2009, 09:16 AM-->QUOTE(agnivayu @ Aug 30 2009, 09:16 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Xtian told me that "Did you know there are Hindu terrorists also?".  I replied that[right][snapback]100777[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You could have shown him how the so-called "Hindu terrorists" were no terrorists at all and were set up. By the christoterrorist govt of India.

And then you could list all the instances where Natural Traditionalists have (since the past to now, globally) accurately called christos terrorists. E.g.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->6. The following explains that to the Japanese christian=arsonist:
"In Japanese, Kyushu means both arsonist and a Christian. Its origins lie in the fact that, besides employing other means of persecution, Nihonjin Christians would burn down Buddhist temples and Shinto shrines in order to convert the Kyushu population."

7. And the words 'Cretin' and 'Bigot' describe how Europeans of France experienced christians:

'Etymological clues exist of a forlorn pagan resistance to 'conversion' –
BIGOT, meaning an obstinate and intolerant holder of particular religious opinions, arrived in English via French. It originated centuries before among Germanic/Frankish tribes of Gaul. 'Bei Gott' ('By God') mocked the exclamation frequently used by the crusading Christian missionaries who were bludgeoning the tribes into conversion.

CRETIN, a stunted or intellectually subnormal person, came into English in the 18th century from Franco-Provençal 'creitin' or 'crestin', again both ancient in origin, derived from the Old French 'chretien' and the Lombard, 'cristanei' – meaning "Christian"!'

8. Here's how the ancient Greco-Romans described the christians who destroyed their civilisation:

- www.bandoli.no/tolerance.htm
'With pious enthusiasm the ancient pagan temples, works of art and libraries were destroyed, and trampled by rampant Christians in a frenzied religious demolition craze. Under the command of bishops and abbots Christian monks were often the most active. THE GREEK CALLED THEM "SWINISH black-cloths", because "THEY LOOKED LIKE MEN BUT LIVED LIKE PIGS".
A contemporary writer tells us "armed with clubs or stones and swords they ran to the temples, some without these weapons only with their bare hands and feet" -- (Libanios "Pro temples" 389 AD).
As soon as they had destroyed one temple, they dashed away to the next. They toppled over walls, smashed idols, statues and art-objects and altars, and stole the temples wealth for themselves.'

- Philosopher Celsus (2nd century) in his book The True Word, also describes what humans who convert to christianisms turn into:
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their teaching. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and MAKES PERFECT LITTLE PIGS of those it wins over to its side."

9. And here's the West Papuan take on christians (note that the New Testament commands all christians to be missionaries):
"Missionaries are actually IN ESSENCE TERRORISTS."

So other people--ancient and modern, near and remote--have described what people become upon converting to christianism: they tell us that christians are "swinish", "live like men but act like pigs", "perfect little pigs", "are in essence terrorists". Arsonist (Japan), cretin and bigot are synonyms for christian.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
CBI gives clean chit to Pragya and Purohit in Nanded case<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In a relief to former Lieutenant Colonel Prasad Purohit and Sadhvi Pragya Thakur, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has given these Malegaon blast accused a clean chit in the Nanded case which the investigative agency is probing again.

A CBI officer on Monday revealed that the agency filed a supplementary chargesheet in the Nanded case last month, but only against Punebased antique arms dealer, Rakesh Dhawade.

The CBI had re-opened the Nanded case in December 2008 after the Maharashtra Anti- Terrorism Squad (ATS) arrested 11 persons, including Dhawade, Purohit and Pragya, for the Malegaon blasts and revealed a link between the Malegaon and Nanded incidents.

The ATS submitted its Malegaon chargesheet in January, implicating Dhawade for the Nanded blasts as well. Dhawade has also been charge-sheeted by the ATS for bomb blasts in the Purna mosque in Purna (Parbhani), Qadriya mosque in Jalna and the Mohammediya mosque in Parbhani.

While it took the CBI eight more months to reconfirm Dhawade's link with the Nanded case, the agency has let Purohit and Pragya go free.

This, despite the ATS chargesheet in the Malegaon case calling Dhawade the "main member of the organised crime syndicate involving all the Malegaon accused". "Dhawade was present at the oath- taking ceremony of members of Abhinav Bharat at Raigad fort in 2006 - attended by Purohit, Ajay Rahirkar , and others," reads the ATS chargesheet.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Goa: 1 linked to Malegaon blast dies in explosion
Hindu group not involved in Goa blast: Police
<!--QuoteBegin-shamu+Oct 22 2009, 12:35 AM-->QUOTE(shamu @ Oct 22 2009, 12:35 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindu group not involved in Goa blast: Police
Excellent example of poor police work and idiots who are ruling country.
[url="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/use-of-term-hindu-terror-worrisome-says-rss-ideologue/654796/"]Use of term ‘Hindu terror’ worrisome, says RSS ideologue[/url]
Quote:RSS ideologue M G alias Baburao Vaidya on Sunday expressed worries about the usage of newly coined term “Hindu terror”, appealing Hindu leaders to remove the blot.

“The word Hindu terror has earned its place in the media and no one knows who invented it. Though somebody gives credit to NCP president Sharad Pawar, others say it was Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh who has coined the concept,” Vaidya wrote in his weekly column in a local Marathi daily here.

He admitted that the government had accused right wing Hindu organisations Abhinav Bharat and Sanatan Sanstha were involved in violence and some arrests had been made but none of the accused had been convicted by the courts till date.

He said the term “Hindu terror” was being used to woo Muslim votes in the country and defame Hindus.
[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/273487/A-conspiracy-unravels.html"]A conspiracy unravels[/url]

Sandhya Jain

Was the alleged rape of a nun, following the assassination of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati and four sanyasis in Kandhamal on Krishna Janmasthami, August 23, 2008, an afterthought by missionaries targeted by enraged Hindus? Was it a planned vengeance, aimed at garnering the international spotlight and forcing Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik to break his alliance with the BJP, which empathised with the Vishwa Hindu Parishad’s anger at the murder of its octogenarian leader?

The questions are legitimate given Fr Thomas Chellan’s admission in court on July 26 that he did not report the alleged rape of the nun when filing the first information report with the police on August 26, 2008. The Baliguda Catholic Church pastor, a key witness in the case, admitted during cross-examination before Cuttack district and sessions judge Bira Kishore Mishra that he had not mentioned the alleged rape in the FIR filed a day after the incident is said to have occurred. His complaint caused the arrest of 23 people.

The alleged rape of the 29-year-old nun from Sambalpur is said to have occurred on August 25 in Kandhamal district, a day after agitated Hindus went on the rampage to protest the gunning down of Swami Laxmanananda and his disciple-monks in the precincts of his own ashram. Swami Laxmanananda had previously escaped several attempts on his life and had received death threats from missionaries infuriated by his anti-conversion activities.

The nun worked at Divyajyoti Pastoral Centre at K Nugaon block. She was reportedly dragged out of a retired head clerk’s house by 40-odd armed men who chanted “Bharat Mata ki Jai,” taken to the office of an NGO, Jan Vikash, where one man allegedly raped her. At that time, 12 policemen of the Odisha State Armed Police were camping in a school in front of the NGO’s office. The nun identified the main accused as Santosh Patnaik, alias Mitu.

Fr Chellan was reportedly beaten and paraded half-naked on the road the same day. He identified two accused in court as being part of the mob that attacked his church, but had failed to identify either man during the test identification parade held at Choudwar jail last year. The case was initially committed to a fast-track court in Kandhamal that was trying all riot cases, but was transferred to a sessions court in Cuttack after the nun petitioned that she felt unsafe in Kandhamal. (This is now the standard refrain in all anti-Hindu cases; Gujarat’s former Minister Amit Shah is only the latest victim.)

Interestingly, Dr Chotray Marandia, who first treated the nun after the alleged assault-cum-rape, testified on August 28 that she had only complained of swelling on her face. “I only treated the swelling on her face and she did not complain of anything else,” he replied when asked by defence lawyers about other injuries on her body. So we have no evidence of rape.

The then block development officer, Mr BB Mishra, testified that he had accompanied the nun and priest to the local police station to file their complaint about the mob attack. Both thus had full official protection while filing the complaint, and cannot claim that the police did not record the FIR properly, or that the rape charge was ignored by the police. These testimonies are damning.

That the rape is most likely a fabrication can be seen from the nervousness of the prosecution. Earlier, her lawyers had sought a month’s time for the nun to appear before the court. This is suspicious to say the least, but fits in with the church’s hiding the nun from the local people and producing a veiled woman with a thick Malayalam accent at a Press conference in Delhi. Interestingly, last Saturday the nun failed to identify the key accused at a test identification parade.

The Church-prosecution embarrassment has been aggravated by the June 12 arrest of Pandit Bishimajhi for allegedly plotting to kill the nun and priest to prevent them from testifying against the mob. It was alleged that Bishimajhi led several mob attacks, one of which stripped and paraded the nun and Fr Chellan, and is thus complicit in the fast-disintegrating rape case.

It may be appropriate to put the anti-missionary violence in context. The Kandhamal violence erupted after the murder of Swami Laxmanananda, whose tireless efforts to uplift the tribal communities and protect their religion and culture against aggressive proselytisation infuriated the evangelists and Maoist goons (mostly converts). The Swami was severely injured in an attack on Christmas eve in 2007, and had then accused a Congress MP and World Vision chief for the attack. He alleged a nexus between Maoist terrorists and missionaries; which is why when Maoists claimed responsibility for the killings, public ire was directed at the missionaries. Certainly the murders had a purely religious motivation; Odisha has in recent years seen an influx of rich American Baptists for soul-harvesting purposes.

Beginning on December 26, 1970, Swami Laxmanananda was attacked eight times before he was finally struck down by AK-47-wielding assailants in 2008, according to the fact-finding commission chaired by Additional Advocate-General of Rajasthan, GS Gill. Soon after the multiple murders in the ashram, the State police arrested World Vision employee Pradesh Kumar Das while escaping from the district. Later, two men, Vikram Digal and William Digal, were arrested from the house of a local militant Christian, Lal Digal, at Nugaon; they admitted having joined a group of 28 assailants. Then, in July 2009, a Maoist couple, Surendra Vekwara and Ruby, also allegedly involved in the killings, surrendered to the Odisha Police. One does not know how the State Government intends to prosecute the cases against these persons, especially as the sensational rape case is silently falling apart.

However, as I have previously argued, the murder of Swami Laxmanananda closely resembles the murder of Swami Shanti Kaliji Maharaj in Tripura in August 2000. The latter was also shot in his own ashram by gun-wielding goons after several dire warnings against his anti-conversion activities in the tribal belt were ignored. Swami Laxmanananda’s murder prompted Biju Janata Dal MP Tathagata Satpathy to insist that there was an urgent need for an anti-conversion legislation as aggressive proselytisation was hurting the social fabric.

Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati had, just before his murder, demanded a national debate on conversions and an end to the foreign funding of NGOs. This is an urgent imperative.


Quote:Unwarranted terrorism charges against Hindus by Indian gov?

aug 8th, 2010

worth repeating. the govt is doing 'truth by repeated assertion'.

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: <Pundita1@

From B Raman:

"7. Thus, according to American investigators the LET and Al Qaeda were responsible for the Samjauta Express blast and the HUJI for the Mecca Masjid blast.If the American investigators, who have better sources in Pakistan, are correct, how can our investigators claim that some arrested Hindus were responsible for these incidents? Justice and fairplay demand a thorough investigation into the two different versions that have emerged from Indian and American investigators. While the American investigators have blamed the LET, Al Qaeda and the HUJI, Indian investigators have blamed the Abhinav Bharat. Both cannot be correct."

See the rest here:


Posted by nizhal yoddha at 8/08/2010 10:53:00 PM 0 comments Links to this post
[url="http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/aug/31/pc-faces-defamation-suit-for-saffron-terror-remark.htm"]Chidambaram faces defamation suit for saffron terror remarks[/url]
Quote:A defamation suit was filed on Monday against Union Home Minister P Chidambaram [ Images ] for his 'saffron terrorism' remarks.

Swami Nijanand Tirth of Patan district has filed the complaint under IPC Sections 499 and 500 (defamation) in the court of metropolitan magistrate G C Gamit. Tirth has contended in his complaint that action should be taken against Chidambaram as he has "hurt" the sentiments of Hindu saints by using the term 'saffron terrorism'.

He said saffron colour is the symbol of Hindu religion and saints across the country wear attire of the same colour. Tirth also said saffron was symbol of peace, sacrifice and God and those trying to demean it should be punished. The court has admitted Tirth's complaint and would hear the case on September 6.

In his speech at a conference of police chiefs held in Delhi [ Images ] on August 25, Chidambaram had said "...there is the recently uncovered phenomenon of saffron terrorism that has been implicated in many bomb blasts of the past."
Quote:Notice to ATS on Sadhvi's plea of illegal detention

The Supreme Court on August 30 issued notice to the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) on a special leave petition filed by Sadhvi Pragnya Singh Thakur, accused in the Malegaon bomb blast case, seeking bail by default of the ATS keeping her in “illegal” detention without recording her arrest, reports The Hindu. Counsel Mahesh Jethmalani alleged that she had been kept in illegal custody from October 10, 2008 till October 23, 2008, when she was first produced before a Mumbai magistrate. The notice is returnable in four weeks.

This is shocking, here Appointed PM of India is abusing woman.
[url="http://www.thehindu.com/2010/11/01/stories/2010110163461800.htm"]RSS to launch nationwide protests on November 10[/url]
Quote:NEW DELHI: The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh has decided to organise countrywide protests on November 10 against what it perceives to be a “political conspiracy” by the Centre to link it to terrorist activities. And in a resolution on Kashmir it said the call for “azadi” was “nothing short of treason.”

The decision to organise protests was taken by the Sangh at its three-day conclave of its Akhil Bharatiya Karyakari Mandal (central committee) in Jalgaon, Maharashtra that ended on Sunday.

RSS leader Ram Madhav said over telephone that senior RSS leaders, including chief Mohan Bhagwat and general secretary Suresh Joshi, would participate in the demonstrations. While Mr. Bhagwat will be present in Lucknow on November 10, Mr. Joshi will be in Hyderabad.

In a statement, the Sangh defended its leader Indresh Kumar, whose name figures in a charge sheet related to the Ajmer blast (but is not an accused). It said it had refrained from speaking on the subject at length since the matter was sub judice and the charge sheet had neither made out any specific case against him nor named him an accused.

Mr. Joshi said names of “responsible people” (meaning Mr. Indresh Kumar) were being connected with “saffron terrorist” incidents and this was “resented by Hindu society.” Earlier, soon after the Ajmer charge sheet was filed in a court in Rajasthan, Mr. Joshi had issued a veiled threat that any attempt to defame the “nationalist” RSS would not be tolerated.

The fact that Mr. Bhagwat has himself decided to join the protest establishes the seriousness with which the Sangh is taking the issue. There is a view in the Sangh and its affiliated organisations that if a terror link was to be firmly established with the Sangh, its entire “nationalist” and “patriotic” credentials would come crashing down and it could find itself in the position it was in 1948-49 when it was initially charged with involvement in the murder of the Mahatma. Some senior RSS leaders have earlier expressed this fear, and, therefore, initially the decision was taken to “fully cooperate” with investigation agencies and take the stance that some bad eggs in the organisation might have got involved in shady activities but not the Sangh as a matter of policy.

Quote:NATION | Tuesday, November 2, 2010 | Email | Print | | Back

RSS campaign to counter ATS ‘disinformation’November 02, 2010 11:20:50 PM


State unit of RSS would start an extensive campaign from November 10 to counter the disinformation by ATS of Rajasthan, which is allegedly trying to implicate senior RSS functionary Indresh Kumar in Ajmer Dargah bomb blast case.

Though in a meeting RSS leadership at Pune decided to launch such nation-wide campaign, Rajasthan unit was particularly asked not to spare any efforts to make this campaign most effective one. This was done because case is related to Rajasthan, where Indresh Kumar had served for four years from 2002. In the chargesheet, filed by ATS in Ajmer Court, name of Indresh Kumar was figured as suspect conspirator. It said his role in the cases needed to be investigated further.

According to a RSS spokesman, modalities of the campaign are being worked out to make it a most extensive one to reach to all sections of the society.

It is learnt, RSS functionaries are trying to involve those Muslim leaders who are either close to Sangh or any constituent, including BJP, of Sangh Parivar.
Quote:RSS alleges Indresh Kumar subjected to physical, mental torture

November 06, 2010 10:02:04 PM


PTI | Bangalore

RSS on Saturday charged investigating agencies probing the Ajmer Dargah blast of subjecting a senior RSS functionary Indresh Kumar, named in the charge sheet in the case, "to physical and mental torture", despite extending full cooperation to them.

Referring to Kumar "whose name has been dragged into the charge sheet, citing a meeting", RSS spokesperson Ram Madhav alleged at a press meet here that though Kumar had fully cooperated with the Anti Terrorist Squad, Rajasthan, "they subjected him to physical and mental torture and indulged in unacceptable method of investigation".

He said RSS would take legal steps on the matter in course of time but refused to divulge further details, saying "we want the investigation to take place in a non-political atmosphere”. He flayed Congress for the recent AICC resolution blaming RSS for "sponsoring terrorism."

"We stoutly disapprove it. Let them substantiate it. We will in fact urge investigating agencies to question these Congress leaders. It is an old ploy of Congress to make us scapegoats for minority votes", he charged.

Madhav said RSS would organise rallies at block level across India in December in support of building a Ram temple at Ayodhya "following the spirit of the Ayodhya verdict."
[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/295536/Outraged-RSS-holds-nation-wide-protest-against-terror-tag.html"]Outraged RSS holds nation-wide protest against terror tag[/url]
Quote:Hundreds of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) activists, led by their top leaders, Wednesday staged protests in several places across India against the central government's alleged "political conspiracy" to link the group to terror activities.

Protests were held in various state capitals and district headquarters, RSS spokesperson Ram Madhav told IANS.

RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat led the protestors in Lucknow while general secretary Suresh Joshi addressed a rally in Hyderabad. Demonstrations were also held across Punjab, Haryana and Orissa.

In Delhi, MPs Prakash Javadekar and Balbir K. Punj were among those who participated in the sit-ins.

The protests come in the wake of RSS leader Indresh Kumar and other activists being named in the chargesheet in the Ajmer blast case -- three people were killed and 30 injured when explosives kept in a tiffin box exploded at the shrine of Sufi saint Moinuddin Chisthi Oct 11, 2007.

Addressing protestors in Lucknow, Bhagwat said the cases and allegations against the RSS were "baseless and politically motivated".

Even as Bhagwat went on to claim that no RSS activist could be even remotely connected with acts of terror, he disowned all those who were suspected to be involved in such acts.

"Such Hindus who were found to have been associated with terrorist activities could not be even remotely associated with RSS," he said in the speech.

Holding a brief for those against whom there was incontrovertible evidence, the RSS chief sought to add: "I am sure they were falsely implicated."

He also came out strongly in defence of Indresh: "The fact that the investigating agencies had failed to find any concrete evidence against Indresh proved our point that he was being falsely implicated simply because the UPA government wanted to give us a bad name."
Only tit-for-tat will stop this harrassment. Why arent INC guys with links to terrorists in Karnataka, Gujarat or eslewhere arrested by state police? The key is to get the bad ones and not just the minority ones.
[url="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/Congress-on-rampage-Sangh-sorry/articleshow/6916573.cms"]Congress on rampage; Sangh sorry[/url]
Quote:NEW DELHI: After Congress took to the streets on Friday to protest against former RSS chief K S Sudarshan’s anti-Sonia Gandhi tirade, the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) expressed its regret.

They should Ban Congress Party and arrest its President.
Quote:Congress played minority politics post 26/11

New Delhi: The United States believed that the Congress party backed the “outlandish” conspiracy theories over the death of Maharashtra ATS chief Hemant Karkare in the 26/11 attack for “crass” political gains.

A diplomatic cable that is part of the latest disclosures by WikiLeaks, reveals that the then US Ambassador to India, David Mulford, wrote to Washington that the Congress, despite having done well in the recent state elections, made a "cynical political calculation" to boost the conspiracy theory.

The secret cable -- sent a month after the Mumbai terrorist attack and revealed, extraordinarily, the day after senior Congress leader Digvijay Singh told The Indian Express that his first "shocked and demoralised" reaction on hearing of Karkare's death had been 'Oh my God, they (rightwing Hindu groups opposed to his probe into the Malegaon bombing) have killed him' -- shows that the US thought that the Congress went on to "implicitly endorse the conspiracy" after initially distancing itself from the then minority affairs minister AR Antulay's "completely unsubstantiated claims".

Days after Karkare's assassination, Antulay had said the chief of the Maharashtra ATS could have been a victim of "terrorism or terrorism plus something".

"Antulay's completely unsubstantiated claims gained support in the conspiracy-minded Indian-Muslim community. Hoping to foster that support for upcoming national elections, the Congress Party cynically pulled back from its original dismissal and lent credence to the conspiracy," Mulford wrote.

However, regardless of later dismissals of Antulay's claim by the Congress, the "Indian Muslim community will continue to believe they are unfairly targeted by law enforcement and that those who investigate the truth are silenced", the Ambassador added.

According to Mulford, the Congress's about-turn from initially dismissing Antulay's statement was based on narrow identity politics.

"As support seemed to swell among Muslims for Antulay's unsubstantiated claims, crass political opportunism swayed the thinking of some Congress Party leaders. What's more, the party made the cynical political calculation to lend credence to the conspiracy even after its recent emboldening state elections victories," reads the envoy's cable.

The Congress, Mulford wrote, "will readily stoop to the old caste/religious-based politics if it feels it is in its interest... While cooler heads eventually prevailed within the Congress leadership, the idea that the party would entertain such outlandish claims proved once again that many party leaders are still wedded to the old identity politics".

Antulay, the cable reads, was "probably bewildered to find that his remarks, similar in vein to what he would have routinely made in the past to attack the BJP, created such a furor this time".

On Saturday, the Congress said that the purported contents of the leaked cable were communication between a US Ambassador and his government, to which it could not react.

"All Ambassadors and High Commissioners keep on giving reports to their respective governments. This is between the two of them (Mulford and the US government). Any responsible party cannot react to claims made by anybody, which are not authenticated," Congress media department chairman Janardan Dwivedi said.

[url="http://www.telegraphindia.com//1110106/jsp/nation/story_13399058.jsp"]Sadhvi brother attempts suicide[/url]
Quote:New Delhi, Jan. 5 (PTI): The brother of Malegaon blast accused Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur attempted suicide in a southeast Delhi guesthouse today alleging that he was being “harassed” by the National Investigating Agency.

anth Brahmachari, 28, allegedly consumed poison and was found unconscious in the guesthouse in Jangpura this afternoon, police said. He is undergoing treatment at AIIMS.

Congress Party dictatorship. Did NIA had investigated Sonia and her family for Bofors, Volkers, CWG, 2G, Mumbai attacks etc?
Christian Inquisition of the Hindus continues:

(And it *is* christianism that is behind all this inquisition against Hindus. It has christianism's bloody methodology all over it. Of course it hasn't left its express fingerprints/calling card, but it doesn't need to: every other prime indication is there.)

The following was predicted:


Quote:Aseemananda's confession mirror image of LeT operator Nagori confession - Dr. Swamy

14/01/2011 14:42:15

Statement of Dr. Subramanian Swamy, President of the Janata Party.

The attempt to foist the Samjhauta Express terrorist attack and at other places on the Hindu community by the UPA Government is getting more and more ridiculous.

The Swami Aseemananda's alleged confession, published by the Tehelka magazine, appears to be a mirror image of the confession made by the LeT operator Nagori who also in a statement while in custody in 2008 had owned responsibility for the Samjhauta Express blasting and bombing. The UPA Government should therefore make clear which confession they are now accepting and which is the one they are rejecting.

I demand that the Prime Minister direct the Home Ministry to issue a White Paper on the so-called phenomenon of Hindu terror, and lay bare all the official information on file that they have on this matter. Only then the truth will emerge. The nation must know all the facts. We cannot allow the government to enable Pakistan to make propaganda about Hindu Terror without full transparency on the issue. It is my charge that this is a government sponsored conspiracy to defame the RSS as an organization. Just as we do not blame Congress for the anti-Sikh terror because of H.K.L. Bhagat and Sajjan Kumar, the same way we cannot drag the RSS into the terror charge because of a few individuals.

Referring to an older post with stuff on Swamy Asimanand and why the christians were after him from the start:

[quote name='Husky' date='23 November 2008 - 10:14 AM' timestamp='1227414977' post='90525']

4. Christian inquisition of Hindus is now after Swami Asimanand (Jatin Chatterjee) of Gujarat's Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram

Related to the following that Shambhu posted in the christian terrorism thread:

(Shambhu @ Nov 19 2008, 06:51 AM)

Quote:Tathagata Mukherjee comments:

Those Seers who played aggressive role AGAINST Missionary conversion are being targetted.

One leading personality was gunned down by funding Maoists .

Second one is now targeted who organized Sabari Kumbh in the Dangs, Gujarat.


Need to spread this around.

More proof that this whole "Hindu terrier" is a christian operation in origin and intention:

They're going after Swami Asimanand (Jatin Chatterjee) whose non-controversial Hindu Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram turns Hindus into conscious Hindus who can't be attacked by christianism.

Offstumped quotes crypto "Praveen Swami":


Quote:Clearly a group of individuals with mere knowledge of terrorist activities dont make for good copy or politics. Hence this attempt at probing deep into their background and establishing tertiary links to individuals associated with the VHP.

Quote:    Maharashtra Police sources said that, according to the witness, the call was made by Gujarat-based Hindu-nationalist leader Jatin Chatterjee. Mr. Chatterjee widely known in southern Gujarat by his clerical alias, Swami Asimanand runs the controversial Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, which operates a Hindu-proselytisation programme targeting adivasis in southern Gujarat.
Praveen Swami does not leave us in doubt on the motive behind this attempt at establishing tertiary links to the VHP when he drops this hint in the opening sentence of his piece

Quote:For the past fortnight, the Maharashtra Police have been poised on the edge of unravelling what could prove to be among the most significant counter-terrorism investigations since the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.
The reference to Gandhi Assassination is code to imply that while Kalsangram and Joshi may have acted as vigilantes no different from a Godse, the Congress is unwilling to go public with that. Doing so would only bring the blame back to its door step on why Digvijay Singh let them go free in 2002. Hence the need for preparing the grounds to establish a conspiracy and use that as an excuse potentially to ban the Bajrang Dal or the Vishwa Hindu Parishad to turn the heat on the BJP and Sangh Parivar while communalising the vote.

About the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram having been long targeted by christoterrorists (it is thwarting their harvesting of souls/sheep):


Quote:Monotheists clamour for tribal harvest

Posted October 19, 2004

Author: Sandhya Jain

Publication: The Pioneer

Date: October 19, 2004

That tribals on their own have little time for Christ or the pious missionary can be seen from the fact that the merciful exit of Mrs. Gladys Staines (widow of Australian missionary Graham Staines) from India led to a massive homecoming of converted tribals. In Orissa's Mayurbhanj district, seventy-five Christians returned to the Hindu fold last month and more are slated to re-embrace their native faith. The cognoscenti would be aware that acute resentment at Graham Staines' conversion activities had resulted in his sensational murder some years ago.

Of course, Christian activists do not believe in a level playing field. Hence the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, which merely facilitates tribals wishing to live according to their traditional mores, received unexpected flak when it observed its golden jubilee in the capital's Mandoli village recently. Even as delegates debated problems of the country's eight crore tribal population, leaders of the minority communities raised Cain on the ground that VKA was bringing tribal hamlets back to the Hindu fold (The Telegraph, 3 October 2004).

More mentioned at offstumped - in its many comments - about Swami Asimanand and other matters (my interruptions in purple):


Tathagata Mukherjee November 20th, 2008 at 1:51 am

I agree with this analysis.

As I stated since the very beginning (Swapan Dasgupta also hinted in his Sunday Column in the Pioneer): target is some Hindutva Leader. In this case, its Swami Asimananad.

Classic case- Hindus and Muslims are pitted against each other, while missionaries are going all out for conversion. One of the Seer who opposed them in Kandhamal was killed. Here is the next one- malign publicly.

Will Press, people understand this? Don t know. Now, it all depends on Hindu Seers, Dharmic leaders how united they become and strongly face this challenge.


Tathagata Mukherjee November 20th, 2008 at 2:06 am

Hinduism is under massive attack from political conspiracy

[color="#800080"](It's called christianism. And it's *ideology* - entirely ideologically-motivated, not something merely "political".)[/color]

This can be saved only when Ramakrishna Mission to Baba Ramdeb to Sri Sri to All sects, saints, seers come united and hit the street.

Saving grace is, this Govt is fully exposed who question Rama s existance, almost broke Rama Sethu. And Kashmir is burning.


Tathagata Mukherjee November 20th, 2008 at 2:48 am

Arjun: I agree with ur post #6. But psuedos hope against hope. What can you say?

The world is seeing a massive rise of identity- Secularism is now all but discarded even in Europe from where it was imported. Xtian rightwing has become massive powerful all over the western world. HINDUTVA REMAINS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RECULTURIZATION MOVEMENT/EFFORT OF LAST 40 YEARS

But that s what Taliban CPIM thinks. Now, its being followed by Sonia.


Tathagata Mukherjee November 20th, 2008 at 2:51 am

Look at Nehru s photo closely- he did NOT have to wear Hindu Symbols like Tilak on the forehead, or tie red-thread in his hands, as is being done since the days of Indira, Rajiv, Sonia, or Rahul. Look at Lalu, Paswan too.

Also, our neighbors got changed- Kashmir is now fully purged of Hindus. Bangladesh is sending terrorists to India. Assam is burning on and off.


Tathagata Mukherjee November 20th, 2008 at 2:56 am

Sanjeev @5

Mainstream media protected CPIM by not giving coverage of Tapasi Murder it deserved.



# KSV SUBRAMANIAN November 20th, 2008 at 3:08 am

It seems some hidden enemy is taking revenge on hindus for the set back in the conversion agenda after the brutal murder of the Swamiji and his disciples in Kandhamal. They are going against the hindu sadhvis, sadhus etc., in an orchestrated attempt to malign anybody connected to the word hindu . In the top echelon of power in India the word hindu and hindus, it seems, have become anathema.

[color="#800080"](The enemies are not hidden. They are

- the US govt-sent cretin missionaries from AmeriKKKa who have identified those key Hindus that have been standing in their way of reaching the expected quota of conversions that they need in order to gain and retain the required amount of political leverage in India (via christo-congressi and communistic goons)

- and of course the cretins internal to India: the "christians in India".)[/color]

reason November 20th, 2008 at 5:54 am

In a way we must be thankful to the writers of this script at Maharashtra ATS, for getting Advaniji back to us. There was a scathing editorial in the Hindu today and we should be thankful some more for those mercies.

There was a pioneer piece that said one of the targets of this operation is a RSS in charge in kashmir.

Praveen Swami clearly identifies another target - Swami Asimanand and the movement in Dangs for resisting christian conversion.
Notice the use of adjectives that springs forth from these vermins idea that they are smart-alecs, but in reality exposes them as cojones-less mercenaries who do the bidding of their sponsors -

Maharashtra Police sources said that, according to the witness, the call was made by Gujarat-based Hindu-nationalist leader Jatin Chatterjee. Mr. Chatterjee widely known in southern Gujarat by his clerical alias, Swami Asimanand runs the controversial Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, which operates a Hindu-proselytisation programme targeting adivasis in southern Gujarat

The ashram is controversial . And it targets Advasis to make them Hindus. Thus advasis are not Hindus. That is exactly the lines of missionaries who face resistance in Dangs due to the Shabri kumbhs.

There have been insinuations that Modiji in gujarat is not letting them arrest this Swamiji. As long as there is the process of transit remands and local police co-operation for effecting arrests across states, Modiji is absolutely right if he is indeed resisting this design. The ATS can take this story of a eyewitness who saw the Swamiji on the other end of the phone to a Gujarat court for transit remand. Appears like they dont want to do that because of some invented witness safety issue.

From the beginning, it appeared unnatural that they wont go after Modiji using this case. The net has been cast far and wide and the only missing target was Modiji. It is good to see the Man getting dragged. Now let us see.

kumar November 20th, 2008 at 6:00 am

Good point there.If Modi ji gets dragged into this, things will get resolved fast.

bhanu November 20th, 2008 at 10:00 am


It shows Sadhvi, Himani Savarkar, Swami Asimanand, Sameer Kulkarni and Dayanand Pandey sharing the same dais on 10 April 2008.

(About some video used as "evidence")


arjun November 20th, 2008 at 10:07 am

bhanu, read the comments to the ToI story. This is the evidence ATS has or Congress is trying to influence public opinion after people started asking for evidence.


bhanu November 20th, 2008 at 10:15 am

Arjun my point exactly.

Since when is it illegal to hold meetings and condemn attacks on our soil? In that case shouldn t Imam Bukhari be also investigated? How about Arundhati she openly said Kashmir should be given its freedom and so did other half a dozen edits.

BTW noticed only 2 comments went against the flow.

Does ATS think that people r so stupid to have a video made if they were discussing these attacks? Does ATS think Purohit an Intelligence officer would go around sending SMSes after Sadhvi s arrest?

(All Hindus condemn attacks on the soil of Bharatam everyday. How does that make anyone a terrorist?)


5. Back when it was the successful anti-conversion activist Dara Singh being inquisitioned by the tyrant Christo Inquisition (he's locked away now thanks to christo CBI theatrics 'investigation' and a court that obviously felt pressured to nail *someone* for Staines murder)

- back then, Rajeev Srinivasan wrote the following.

While he uses the secular term "apartheid", he's actually describing the Christoterrorist Rule Of India and the Christo Inquisition Of The 'Heathen' Hindu:


Quote:Apartheid in India

Posted April 21, 2004

Rajeev Srinivasan

April 21, 2004


Similarly, when foreign white Christian missionary Graham Staines was murdered, the system lost no time in sentencing native son Dara Singh for the crime. In most countries, citizens have greater rights than foreigners; in the US, visa violators are treated very harshly. But in India, the reverse is true, even though Staines was violating his (tourist) visa: according to the court judgment in the Dara Singh trial, 'Graham Staines's missionary activities did lead to conversion of tribals belonging to Ho and Santal tribes to Christianity.' This is illegal, as there is no such thing as a missionary visa.

Citizens, especially of Indic religious persuasion, are attacked and killed routinely, sometimes by foreign terrorists, sometimes by local terrorists of the Muslim and Christian persuasion. Consider the case of Shanti Tripura. Shanti who, you ask. Precisely the point. He was a Hindu priest shot in his temple on August 28, 2000 by Christian fundamentalist terrorists of the NLFT in Tripura. But did his case get an iota of the publicity that Staines's case got? In fact, did his case get any publicity at all? Of course not. Did his murderers ever get caught? Of course not.

These cases are symptomatic of a large disease: the systematic and endemic apartheid against Indians of Indic religions. Laws are interpreted to give the maximum benefit of the doubt to those of Christian, Muslim and Marxist religious faiths; but turn around, and these laws are interpreted extremely stringently for Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists. This is very similar to how the US discriminates vigorously against its black population, and how apartheid South Africa discriminated against its own non-whites.


And post 81 of this thread:

Quote:He said that after the Sadhvi, the ATS has now trained its guns on Swami Asimananda of Dangs region in Gujarat. "What is his fault? He has only prevented conversion of Hindus," he said.

Abdeo alleged that the accused are being "physically and mentally tortured in custody and the rights due to an accused in custody are not bestowed on them by the ATS".
What, heathens expected the christian inquisition to honour Hindu heathens' human rights?

But then heathens can't even tell the christian hand behind all this, no wonder they imagine there will be proper investigation, justice and a fair trial.

Plus parallels like why christianism went after that other Hindu Swami Amritananda Dev Tirtha.

I wonder what India's heathens imagined that the pope meant/what was going to happen when JPII visiting India declared back around the start of the 2000s that the 3rd millennium was the evangelisation of Asia. He was speaking of heathen Asia.

And heathen Asia is significantly, stubbornly heathen. How do people *imagine* that the mass conversion was going to be effected? By lying, cheating and (subsequent) genocide of course. All out crusade. Same as with Rome and everything thereafter.

Hindus should have exposed christianism - including this Christian Inquisition Of The Hindus - when they had a chance.

Vatican and its footsoldiers (cryptos included) is behind this whole op. E.g. can see their mouthpiece - what was it called again, asianews.it?
For any who still doesn't realise it is christianism behind it all:


Quote:Hindus fighting back Christian conversion, The main reason behind Swami Aseemanand’s arrest

14/12/2010 00:28:15 By Manohar Kamath - Organiser.org

FOR long, Bharat has been the special target of church worldwide. To church, the Hindus represent the greatest stumbling block in grand design to establish Christ’s kingdom on earth. The poor, illiterate and mild Vanvasi Hindus are an obvious target in this nefarious design. For years, under the garb of social service, the church has been spreading its tentacles in far-flung, Vanvasi regions of the country. The converted Vanvasis become alienated from their customs and traditions. They also get uprooted from their cultural milieu. Conversion to Christianity is invariably associated with separatism and terrorism as is evident in North-East Bharat. There are several areas in our country which have become hotbeds of Christian missionary activities. The Dangs district in Gujarat is one such area. The word Dang is a corruption of Dandakaranya, the legendary forest where Sri Ram and Lakshman spent some time while in exile. It is in this region that Shabari Mata, the immortal devotee of Sri Ram met her Lord and lovingly offered Him sweet berries which she had tasted herself. The spot where this meeting took place is located on Chamak hill in this region. There is a temple of Shabari Mata at this site. The picturesque Pampa Sarovar (lake) is located in this region. Situated on the border of Gujarat and Maharashtra, this district is pre-dominantly inhabited by Vanvasi Hindus. The district has 352 villages; the district headquarter is Ahwa. The town of Navapur in Maharashtra is close to the Dangs district of Gujarat.

It is pertinent to note that the first church was established in Dangs district in 1904. Since then, conversions to Christianity had been progressing at an alarming rate. In the period 1991-2001, the Christian population grew by a massive 400 per cent! The process of self-alienation and separatism which inevitably accompanies conversion had become visible in Dangs. Makeshift, illegal churches had mushroomed in cowsheds and residential areas. These churches were unregistered and illegal. Such was the terrorism of Christian activists that it had become unsafe for Hindus to move out of their houses after dusk. It was in the midst of such hostile conditions that a Hindu swami descended upon Dangs.

Arrival of Swami Aseemanand

A Bengali by birth, Swami Aseemanand has spent several years in the Andaman and Nicobar islands. His innovative and bold methods in arousing the latent feeling of Hindutva amongst the Vanvasis made him a byword in the field of Hindu awakening. Little wonder than that Christian zealots made many murderous attempts on his life. Deeply concerned by the Christianisation of Dangs, Swamiji resolved to stay in Dangs and foil the designs of Christian missionaries. It was in August 1997 that this saffron-clad sannyasi set foot in Dangs. All that he carried with him in this unfamiliar and hostile terrain were around 500 lockets of Hanuman and an unshakeable resolve! He would knock the door of each house and would ask the inmates one question, "Are you Hindu or Christian?" At the house of one such Hindu, Swamiji asked him, "May I spend the night in your house?" The Hindu gladly welcomed Swamiji. Swamiji kept his luggage, distributed the Hanuman lockets to the children and asked them to bring their Hindu friends in the evening for a Ram katha. That night, Dang witnessed the first ever Dharma Sabha. Sensing danger, Christian missionaries asked Swamiji, "What brings you here?" The Swami posed them the same question. We have come here to serve the people replied the Christian missionaries. "I have come here to drive away those who have come here to serve," retorted the Swami. That was the beginning of the Hindu awakening in the Dangs.

Hindu awakening in the Dangs

[color="#0000FF"]In 1998, 25000 Christians embraced the religion of their forefathers in just two months.[/color] The submissive Hindu who had been hitherto terrorised by the Christian missionaries began to assert himself. Hindu jaage, Christi bhaage became a popular slogan of the Vanvasis of Dangs. From 1998-2004, a total of 55 Vishal Hindu Sammelans were organised. These were attended by a total of four lakh Hindus. As Hindus objected to conversion activities of Christian missionaries, clashes broke out.

The so-called mainstream media used this pretext to tarnish the Hindus. In December 2004, press reporters from 40 countries descended upon the Dangs and spread a misinformation campaign. As a result, the court restrained the Hindus from conducting any public ceremony around Christmas in future. Meanwhile, the tide of Hindu awakening only swelled. Today, Christian conversion activities have come to a halt not only in Dangs but also in the surrounding twelve districts.

In 2002, Hindu activists approached the famed Ramayana kathakar Sri Morari Bapu and requested him, "You mesmerise thousands with Ram Katha. We request you to organise Ram Katha in Dangs wher Sri Ram Himself spent some time". Sri Morari Bapu readily agreed. The tremendous response overwhelmed Sri Morari Bapu. In the course of his speech, he spontaneously expressed the desire that a formal kumbh be organised at the spot where Shabari Mata had met Sri Ram. Sri Morari Bapu’s desire was taken up as an order to be implemented. Thus was born the idea of Shabari Kumbh.

Scale of the Shabari Kumbh

Organising a kumbh in a remote, heavily forested area was a nightmare as far as logistics was concerned. It required steely resolve, meticulous planning and precision to make the programme a grand success. The 352 villages in Dangs district had no electricity, or roads; the town of Ahwa is a good 35 km from the proposed site of the kumbh. There are no medical facilities or eateries in the vicinity. But the famed organisational might of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, Vishwa Hindu Parishad and other like-minded organisations was in full gear. Realising the importance of such a venture to the state of Gujarat, the state government of Shri Narendra Modi extended full co-operation. Planning started atleast one and a half years ago. A 250-200 hectare site was chosen for the kumbh. The state government undertook construction of roads on a war footing. All the 352 villages of Dangs got electrification. A total of 22 check dams were built on the river that feeds the Pampa Sarovar where the holy bath was to take place. A total of 20 lakh Vanvasis resided in an area of 80 km around Dangs. A survey of 5000 villages in Gujarat, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh was completed in the initial phase. Around 30-35 lakh Vanvasis were contacted in this massive exercise. An estimated six lakh Hindus attended the kumbh; of these, around two lakh stayed for all three days. To arrange for their lodging, 40 townships each with a capacity of 5000 people, were erected. Each township had 100 workers to look after various arrangements such as security, food, medical aid etc. Thus a total of 4000 workers were required to look after the arrangements in the townships; an additional 2000 workers were involved in other arrangemets.

About 388 Vanvasi janajatis and 137 urban jatis which were currently facing missionary onslaughts were represented at the kumbh. Further, dharmacharyas from all over the country including 800 Vanvasi saints attended the kumbh and took part in the deliberations.

Each participant was given a locket of his ishtadevata. Around 20 lakh lockets, 5 lakh Hanuman Chalisa and 5 lakh bhagwa dhwaj were distributed.

The success of this campaign like the one led by Swami Laxmanananda in Kandhamal enraged the anti-Hindu forces. The UPA is in the forefront of this conspiracy. Now the saintly person is falsely charged with terror links. An attempt to discredit him and destroy his work.

The real Hindu heroes. Those who *ought* to be protected by Hindus now, since they've spent their lives fearlessly and selflessly protecting the Hindus.

And the comments:



15/12/2010 03:42:39 Aseemanand’s arrest

[size="4"][color="#0000FF"]UPA/ Sonia tring to complete Pop's mission i.e. to make Bharat as Christian country. For this they arrested Shri Shankaracharya Ji, Prandya Devi, IndreshJi and now Asimanand Swami Ji. Swami Laksimanand Ji murdered by misanary activitst .[/color][/size] We have to unite and JOGO HINDU JAGO RE.

[color="#800080"](Oh look. Someone Hindoo writing in English telling it like it is. He declares matter-of-factly that It's Christianism. You don't see that every day.

Just to complete the list: he left out Swami Amritaananda, tortured by the christo-ATS to the point of wishing to die, who the christopress deliberately dubbed "alias Dayanand Pande" even though they know that was never his name.

IIRC both Swami Amritaananda and the Sadhvi were forcefed beef or other meat - need to check this thread to confirm - while the equally vegetarian TN Shankaracharya, also working against the christian disease's spread in the area of his influence, was deliberatedly offered only meat by his identifiably christian police jailors - it's what christians DO - back when christianism foisted carefully-planned false murder charges on him.

And innocent Heroic Hindu Dara Singh, framed for a crime he never committed and sentenced to life in prison where he is tortured by christianism - having initially been denied water when the poor Hindoo Hero was thirsty and been painfully chained up and denied legal rights too. = Life in a christian concentration camp.)[/color]


14/12/2010 17:35:39 Please protect this swamiji.

It is well know how the Evangelists and Islamists don't have any tolerance for other religions. Hindus must collectively ensure the safety of this swamiji as he is doing an excellent work. Hindus must be careful that this Swamiji doesn't get attacked by the thugs like that happened to Swamy in Orissa who was doing a massive preaching work and was killed by evangelists.


14/12/2010 17:30:31 Bury UPA and Sonia in a cave.

It is time now that all Hindus awake and bury Sonia and UPA in a cave. She is a anti-Hindu lady. She dresses like a wolf in sheep's dress. Hindus should not be carried away by her dress and outlook.


14/12/2010 01:08:35 Good work

We need someone like Morari Bapu and Swami Aseemananda ji in Karnataka as well. Christian missionaries are busy in every district. I am sad to say there are many Keralites involved in this business. I would like to quote part of an article by a Buddhist Sri J Goonetilleke from vijayavaani.com reg conversions in Sri Lanka -

Shaku Soen, the erudite Japanese priest credited with taking Buddhism to America [color="#800080"](bad idea)[/color], said that there was a tiger in the form of Christianity at the front door and a fox in the form of Islam at the back door, which gave They take advantage of communities that are tolerant and open minded about religion, especially those that are pluralistic like Buddhism and Hinduism, to promote their missionary agenda.

[color="#800080"](Actually: islam is at the front door when you can see it. Christianism is the one that's creeping up on you.)[/color]

In Sri Lanka, attempts have been made to denigrate Buddhism. Missionaries go about distributing books and pamphlets ridiculing Buddhism and praising Christianity. Buddhist converts are made to destroy Buddhist images and insult the religion before being accepted into the faith. They take advantage of communities that are tolerant and open minded about religion, especially those that are pluralistic like Buddhism and Hinduism, to promote their missionary agenda.

Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka were well supported by the Christian church. They were in the forefront supporting the Tigers internationally. Their propaganda machines depicted the war as a fight between Buddhists and Hindus. [color="#800080"](i.e. christian orchestrators made sure to have the advantage of invisibility for their ideology in the conflict = cryptochristianism)[/color] It was not unusual to use a caricature of a Buddhist monk with an AK-47 in one hand and a grenade in the other as a tool to denigrate Buddhism in articles written in western media. This was done with a view to reinforcing the western mindset that non-western religions are dangerous cults, barbaric, primitive, intolerant and aggressive.

Please read full article at http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDispl...px?id=1471

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