^ Bodhi's post above
1. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/artic...jectid=10546287
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Taliban vows to join Pakistan in war with India</b>
10:02AM Wednesday Dec 03, 2008
[side story: US warned India before attack says Govt <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> (<i>but of course</i> they did)]
ISLAMABAD - Taleban fighters battling Pakistani soldiers near the Afghan border volunteered Tuesday to fight alongside the army if war breaks out with traditional foe India over the Mumbai attacks.
Analysts say the offer is meant to fan the flames of anti-Hindu sentiment and draw support away from Islamabad's fight against al-Qaida and Taleban militants in the tribal regions close to Afghanistan.
The government, which is appealing for calm, has not responded to it.
"That is what they would love, to see the attention of the Pakistan army shift from the tribal areas to the eastern border with India," said defence analyst Hasan Askari Rizvi.
The Taleban's offer came in a video recording by its deputy chief, Maulvi Faqir Mohammad, that was made available to reporters Tuesday.
"If India launches a war on Pakistan, we will divide the fight into two parts. The air defence will be the responsibility of the military, and the Tehrik-e-Taleban Pakistan will fight the war on ground," he said. "If it makes a mistake to attack Pakistan, Tehrik-e-Taleban will defend Pakistan and Islam."
Tehrik-e-Taleban is headed by Baitullah Mehsud, a militant blamed by Pakistan for the assassination of the country's moderate ex-premier, Benazir Bhutto. Bhutto's widower is President Asif Ali Zardari.
The group is accused of other suicide attacks in Pakistan and is strong in the tribal regions, where Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders are believed to be hiding out.
"The Taleban want to generate goodwill for themselves in Pakistan by emphasizing they are friends of the government," said Rizvi. "A lot of Islamist elements and parties have been saying that the real threat to Pakistan comes from India rather than Taleban, so why should the military fight them?"
The nuclear-armed nations have fought three wars since the subcontinent was divided in 1947, two over the Himalayan region of Kashmir, which is claimed by both.
The Mumbai attackers are said by New Delhi to have been trained by the banned Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, a banned Pakistani militant group with roots in the disputed Kashmir region.
There have long been suspicions that Pakistan's military and intelligence services helped create, arm and train Lashkar-e-Taiba as a proxy force against India's much larger military.
The countries began a slow-moving peace process in 2004, but mutual distrust of India runs high in Pakistan, which for years demonized its giant eastern neighbor.
"The Mumbai incident is an Indian conspiracy against Pakistan," said Qari Shafiqur Rahman Alvi, spokesman for banned extremist group Sipahe Sahaba. "They are making grounds to attack Pakistan by falsely implicating Pakistan and its Islamic groups."
Despite tensions on both sides, few observers see the likelihood of full-blown conflict breaking out. But they note that even a further slowing to the peace process would benefit Pakistan's hardliners.
"It's not a matter of all out war, the real threat is will they stop talking to each other, that gives the space to the spoilers that will lead to more tension, more crises in the future," said Samina Ahmed, a South Asia expert at the International Crisis Group think tank.
Pakistan's 8-month-old government has said it is willing to co-operate with New Delhi in investigating the Mumbai attacks, but must balance that against demands from Muslim politicians and nationalists that it not be too soft.
In a sign of the resonance the anti-India message still has, the country's often fractious political leaders issued a statement Tuesday condemning the attack but criticizing the "unsubstantiated allegations made in haste against Pakistan."
They also stressed they supported the army's right to defend the country's security interests.
"As far as issues like this, we all are one," said opposition leader Nawaz Sharif. "The whole nation is one."
- AP<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/12/pak...nd-attacks.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pak Media Allege BJP Behind Attacks</b>
[youtube video of TSP news]
The "mainstream" Paki media are claiming that BJP has masterminded the attacks.
This is what passes for "mainstream" in Pakistan.
Posted by san at 12/02/2008 03:26:00 PM 10 comments
Labels: media, mumbai, pakistan, terrorism
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->America's own pets, the rabies-infected zombies (TSP and Taliban), set to attack. And AmeriKKKa comes off looking innocent: "US warned India before attack says Govt", "FBI helping to interrogate apprehended islamic terrorists of Mumbai attacks". "Obama condemns islamic terrorism". Allbright - always anti-India before - now suddenly realises that Pakistan is Terror Central and causes a global "migraine".
Who'd ever suspect the very courteous AmeriKKKa - issuing all the 'right and proper' statements in such a timely fashion.
<b>ADDED:</b>
AmeriKKKa just green-lighted a war with TSP when they:
1. have their media finally blaming TSP for a terrorist attack on Indian soil
2. have their puppet govt in India - KKKongress - finally blaming TSP for a terrorist attack on Indian soil ('even' Sonia is ready to tow the line - not that that's a surprise)
3. have the western-owned christomedia in India finally blaming TSP for a terrorist attack on Indian soil
All three are to mentally prepare/shove India into a war with TSP.
The real islamic terrorist attack on India happened when TSP bombed Parliament (with the help of their Indian islamaniacs). That's when we should have gone to war with TSP. But then the Godhra train burning thing was carefully staged to stop the impending war with TSP. And more distant leveraging went on back then to prevent events from unfolding: the western-puppeteered christomedia/christobrigade including Suzanna AroonDhoti Roy and Prafool Bidwai came to the fore started insinuating that the attack on parliament was an inside job (an early oblique reference to "Hindu Terror").
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Roy also compared the suicide strike on Parliament to the Godhra train incineration, not as two terrorist attacks - as most Indians may understand it - but as twin inside jobs, deliberately done to provoke a reaction. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Master of <b>deniability</b> is US. Their trainees - including Terrorist State of Pakistan (which regularly denies its attacks in India), Taleban, christomedia in India, Indian christogovt - are only learning from their master.
Western international media also carry "Hindu terrier" stories now. Just as they previously blamed the Hindus in the islamic Godhra train terrorist attack for torching themselves. The same stories carried both my crypto and christoterrorists (Suzanna Roy) and christomedia in India as in western christomedia.
Now, perhaps US thinks their TSP and Taleban is ready to engage India in war.
Where is missionary and former US army-man Kenneth Haywood when AmeriKKKa needs him? Last time he gave SIMI his computer so that they could sign their islamic terrorist handiwork with "Indian mujahideen". Did Kenneth fax around the "Deccan Mujahideen" this time or did the US find someone else to do it?
Taleban is AmeriKKKa's best friend. They do everything AmeriKKKa says. Just ask the Russians. Just ask the Serbs. Just ask many a European nation (e.g. France).
India get your troops out of Afghanistan.
1. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/artic...jectid=10546287
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Taliban vows to join Pakistan in war with India</b>
10:02AM Wednesday Dec 03, 2008
[side story: US warned India before attack says Govt <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> (<i>but of course</i> they did)]ISLAMABAD - Taleban fighters battling Pakistani soldiers near the Afghan border volunteered Tuesday to fight alongside the army if war breaks out with traditional foe India over the Mumbai attacks.
Analysts say the offer is meant to fan the flames of anti-Hindu sentiment and draw support away from Islamabad's fight against al-Qaida and Taleban militants in the tribal regions close to Afghanistan.
The government, which is appealing for calm, has not responded to it.
"That is what they would love, to see the attention of the Pakistan army shift from the tribal areas to the eastern border with India," said defence analyst Hasan Askari Rizvi.
The Taleban's offer came in a video recording by its deputy chief, Maulvi Faqir Mohammad, that was made available to reporters Tuesday.
"If India launches a war on Pakistan, we will divide the fight into two parts. The air defence will be the responsibility of the military, and the Tehrik-e-Taleban Pakistan will fight the war on ground," he said. "If it makes a mistake to attack Pakistan, Tehrik-e-Taleban will defend Pakistan and Islam."
Tehrik-e-Taleban is headed by Baitullah Mehsud, a militant blamed by Pakistan for the assassination of the country's moderate ex-premier, Benazir Bhutto. Bhutto's widower is President Asif Ali Zardari.
The group is accused of other suicide attacks in Pakistan and is strong in the tribal regions, where Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders are believed to be hiding out.
"The Taleban want to generate goodwill for themselves in Pakistan by emphasizing they are friends of the government," said Rizvi. "A lot of Islamist elements and parties have been saying that the real threat to Pakistan comes from India rather than Taleban, so why should the military fight them?"
The nuclear-armed nations have fought three wars since the subcontinent was divided in 1947, two over the Himalayan region of Kashmir, which is claimed by both.
The Mumbai attackers are said by New Delhi to have been trained by the banned Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, a banned Pakistani militant group with roots in the disputed Kashmir region.
There have long been suspicions that Pakistan's military and intelligence services helped create, arm and train Lashkar-e-Taiba as a proxy force against India's much larger military.
The countries began a slow-moving peace process in 2004, but mutual distrust of India runs high in Pakistan, which for years demonized its giant eastern neighbor.
"The Mumbai incident is an Indian conspiracy against Pakistan," said Qari Shafiqur Rahman Alvi, spokesman for banned extremist group Sipahe Sahaba. "They are making grounds to attack Pakistan by falsely implicating Pakistan and its Islamic groups."
Despite tensions on both sides, few observers see the likelihood of full-blown conflict breaking out. But they note that even a further slowing to the peace process would benefit Pakistan's hardliners.
"It's not a matter of all out war, the real threat is will they stop talking to each other, that gives the space to the spoilers that will lead to more tension, more crises in the future," said Samina Ahmed, a South Asia expert at the International Crisis Group think tank.
Pakistan's 8-month-old government has said it is willing to co-operate with New Delhi in investigating the Mumbai attacks, but must balance that against demands from Muslim politicians and nationalists that it not be too soft.
In a sign of the resonance the anti-India message still has, the country's often fractious political leaders issued a statement Tuesday condemning the attack but criticizing the "unsubstantiated allegations made in haste against Pakistan."
They also stressed they supported the army's right to defend the country's security interests.
"As far as issues like this, we all are one," said opposition leader Nawaz Sharif. "The whole nation is one."
- AP<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/12/pak...nd-attacks.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pak Media Allege BJP Behind Attacks</b>
[youtube video of TSP news]
The "mainstream" Paki media are claiming that BJP has masterminded the attacks.
This is what passes for "mainstream" in Pakistan.
Posted by san at 12/02/2008 03:26:00 PM 10 comments
Labels: media, mumbai, pakistan, terrorism
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->America's own pets, the rabies-infected zombies (TSP and Taliban), set to attack. And AmeriKKKa comes off looking innocent: "US warned India before attack says Govt", "FBI helping to interrogate apprehended islamic terrorists of Mumbai attacks". "Obama condemns islamic terrorism". Allbright - always anti-India before - now suddenly realises that Pakistan is Terror Central and causes a global "migraine".
Who'd ever suspect the very courteous AmeriKKKa - issuing all the 'right and proper' statements in such a timely fashion.
<b>ADDED:</b>
AmeriKKKa just green-lighted a war with TSP when they:
1. have their media finally blaming TSP for a terrorist attack on Indian soil
2. have their puppet govt in India - KKKongress - finally blaming TSP for a terrorist attack on Indian soil ('even' Sonia is ready to tow the line - not that that's a surprise)
3. have the western-owned christomedia in India finally blaming TSP for a terrorist attack on Indian soil
All three are to mentally prepare/shove India into a war with TSP.
The real islamic terrorist attack on India happened when TSP bombed Parliament (with the help of their Indian islamaniacs). That's when we should have gone to war with TSP. But then the Godhra train burning thing was carefully staged to stop the impending war with TSP. And more distant leveraging went on back then to prevent events from unfolding: the western-puppeteered christomedia/christobrigade including Suzanna AroonDhoti Roy and Prafool Bidwai came to the fore started insinuating that the attack on parliament was an inside job (an early oblique reference to "Hindu Terror").
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Roy also compared the suicide strike on Parliament to the Godhra train incineration, not as two terrorist attacks - as most Indians may understand it - but as twin inside jobs, deliberately done to provoke a reaction. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Master of <b>deniability</b> is US. Their trainees - including Terrorist State of Pakistan (which regularly denies its attacks in India), Taleban, christomedia in India, Indian christogovt - are only learning from their master.
Western international media also carry "Hindu terrier" stories now. Just as they previously blamed the Hindus in the islamic Godhra train terrorist attack for torching themselves. The same stories carried both my crypto and christoterrorists (Suzanna Roy) and christomedia in India as in western christomedia.
Now, perhaps US thinks their TSP and Taleban is ready to engage India in war.
Where is missionary and former US army-man Kenneth Haywood when AmeriKKKa needs him? Last time he gave SIMI his computer so that they could sign their islamic terrorist handiwork with "Indian mujahideen". Did Kenneth fax around the "Deccan Mujahideen" this time or did the US find someone else to do it?
Taleban is AmeriKKKa's best friend. They do everything AmeriKKKa says. Just ask the Russians. Just ask the Serbs. Just ask many a European nation (e.g. France).
India get your troops out of Afghanistan.