US Elections 2008 - 4

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<!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Sep 5 2008, 12:51 AM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Sep 5 2008, 12:51 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->since the Republican Party Convention openned, the Dow Jone Industrial Index has dropped 550 points, or just under 5%. Ronald Reagan was found of saying "You vote with your wallet". 
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It is better than last month. Couple of reasons are behind for this drop, 3-4 Storms, oil price stayed high, dollar is strong , today's unemploment data, low school shopping. Major problem is financial sector which is still trying to float, they are trying to borrow from Asia and MiddleEast. I think worse is not over yet.
Anyway, US is fighting 2 wars and 2 more wars may pop up soon. (Russia- cold, Iran)

BRENT CRUDE FUTR (USD/bbl.) 106.550
WTI CRUDE FUTURE (USD/bbl.) 107.860

Grains to watch, it is dropping in US and ethnol bill failed, so corn will be cheap and will reduce food prices in coming months.

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Well worth your time, it's hilarious: John Stewart's show

[acharya]

Die Tageszeitung, Germany
<b>Soap (Box) Opera</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>In the ideal election campaign script, politicians all have kids they need, patriots to support the Iraq war, new little Kennedies or blonde groupies.

Hopefully, this sort of stage direction will be overtaken by reality someday.</b>
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[acharya]

Die Welt, Germany
<b>Conservative Christian Views and Palin’s Pregnant Daughter </b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The “Christianity” that they talk about in these debates seems to me to be increasingly peculiar. While we Europeans consider faith to be a private matter, in America it’s ostentatiously paraded out front. Example: at yesterday’s convention there were two prayers in as many hours. First, a basketball star led a prayer for flood victims during hurricane Gustav and at the close of the session a priest came on stage to lead another prayer. People rose from their seats and it got very quiet in the Minneapolis hockey arena. It’s nearly impossible to imagine such a thing at a German political convention.</b>
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[acharya]

Financial Times - Deutschland, Germany
“<b>God Would Vote For Sarah Palin</b>”
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McCain had been courting the Christian right for several months. He scored one noticeable success in mid-August when he made a joint appearance with Obama before an important evangelical congregation in California, the Saddleback Church. He was asked at what point he believed life began – a litmus test for the religious right who consider abortion to be murder. McCain didn’t hesitate and gave the devout public the only answer it considered correct: “at conception.” Obama struggled to find a similar unambiguous answer.
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Conservative commentators consider McCain’s appearance at the Saddleback Church to be the turning point in his relationship with the party’s religious base. Many think Palin’s selection will serve to cement this new relationship. It’s “an absolute bulls-eye that will energize the values voters,” according to the prominent conservative Christian political activist, Gary Bauer <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Palin Speech Moves Independents:</b> Results of two nationwide polls conducted by SurveyUSA show Sarah Palin's speech at the Republican National Convention on the evening of 09/03/08 has helped the McCain campaign.

24 hours ago, independent voters nationwide were split on whether Palin was an asset or a liability to McCain's campaign. <b>Today, by a 2:1 margin, independents say Palin is an asset. Overnight, the percentage calling the Alaska governor an asset to the campaign climbed 13 points; the percentage calling her a liability fell 17 points.</b>

The numbers are similar among moderates, who 24 hours ago viewed Palin as a liability by an 11 point margin; today, Palin is seen as an asset by an 18 point margin.

<b>Betting Line Changes: 24 hours ago, when asked if they would bet on Obama or McCain becoming president, Obama was a 16:15 favorite; today, it's flipped, and McCain is favored by the same ratio</b>.

Grading The Speech: Of those who watched Palin speak last night, 60% give the speech a grade of "A." When those giving lower grades are factored in and a standard grade point average computed on a 4-point scale, Palin scores a "B," overall. Among Republicans, she gets an "A-;" among Independents, a solid "B;" among Democrats, a "C."

It's clear Governor Palin is having a net positive effect on the McCain campaign. It's still early, but we have good reason to be optimistic. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Courtney Hazlett over at MSNBC's "The Scoop" is reporting that thousands of "Us Weekly" subscribers have not only called the magazine to cancel their subscriptions -- some reports say up to 10,000 cancellations have occurred -- but have also contacted advertisers and expressed their outrage that they are advertising with the celebrity news magazine that would so blatantly try to destroy Governor Palin.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Sep 5 2008, 03:03 AM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Sep 5 2008, 03:03 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->
“God Would Vote For Sarah Palin”
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This God fellow and Palin are good buddies and work very closely
Palin: Iraq war "A task from God

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you get a chance, listen in. Steve Corbett is having a field day with this because he was not allowed to enter the obama rally in Scranton today, in his words "as a member of the free press".

http://www.wilknetwork.com/

And callers are calling in a reporting seeing Palin Power signs along the route that the motorcade went.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Trust me, PA will be red this election.

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If Bill and Hillary are unleased in PA with Randell, Palin buddy God himself will walk on water for PA to go red, all the hockeymom lipstick won't help.
Please note, today Troopergate investigation has been put on fast-track 3 weeks ahead so it wraps up in first week of Oct and not Oct end as scheduled.
Palin paging God.

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Clintons already told them they are busy this fall, they are dispatching Kathrine and Biden.
If Obama after connections with Ayer, Rev. Wright, anneberg scandal etc can get Democrat nomination, trust me McCain/Palin will win.

<b>Top 7 Myths, Lies and Untruths About Sarah Palin" (FOX) </b>
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Now Obama is using this in rally, desperate situation
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack.<b> So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’</b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Biden's Son, Brother Named in Two Suits
By Kimberly Kindy and Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 24, 2008; <b>Page A09</b>

A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<b>Pak using US funds for preparing for war against India: Obama</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Accusing Pakistan of misusing the massive American aid to fight the war on terror, Democratic nominee for the US Presidential election Barack Obama, in a sensational comment, has said Islamabad was using these funds for "preparing for a war against India".

Senator Obama vowed to hold Islamabad accountable for the massive military aid it has received from Washington if he is elected to the White House. He said his administration will increase pressure on the Pakistan to come to terms with terrorist safe havens along its northern border with Afghanistan.

"What we can do is stay focused on Afghanistan and put more pressure on the Pakistanis," Senator Obama said in an interview with Fox News.
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I have to listen again because in yesterday interview India was not mentioned, may be I missed.

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Yes he did, I watched it on BillO. Other parts of BillO-Obama interview will run on next Mon, Tue and Wed.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->OBAMA: For example, we are providing them military aid without having enough strings attached. So they're using the military aid that we use to Pakistan, they're preparing for a war against India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[ramana]

Viren and Acharya, Did Obama slip out anything sub rosa in his Bill O"Reilly interview?
Mudy please think it over before replying.

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What's "sub rosa"?

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->So they're using the military aid that we use to Pakistan, they're preparing for a war against India<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ramana,
It only means, Kargil type of thing in order. Democrats as usual will try this, may be in Gujarat/Raj sector. If BO win, brzezinski , Half bright, Rubin will be back who thinks India can be easily changed into Serbia, Montenegro . Democrats long term policy, to make India into smaller countries.
I still can't forget speech where Bill Clinton said India will be end up like USSR or yugoslavia. (He said on Godhara day)
Currently, India leadership and media is bought by external entities.
Shame of India, Manmohan Singh is happy to get rid of "N" so that Queen and his daughter can have good life.
I think we should worry about this, don't forget BO mother worked for Asian Bank in Pakistan for 4 years and his drug, weeds buddies were Pakistanies. This slip may be, they are planing something on this regard to control Paki fundoos, best way to do is attrition according to brzezinski policy.
Now Faujis are in baracks they can do preparation.

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Democrats/PUMA put DNC on ebay

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<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+Sep 6 2008, 03:21 AM-->QUOTE(Viren @ Sep 6 2008, 03:21 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->What's "sub rosa"?
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I think this reference to Bill Clinton Primary election gaffe about sister rosa issue.

[acharya]

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Le Journal de Dimanche , France
<b>Palin, the “Female Democrats’ Worst Nightmare”</b>

By Nicole Bacharan interviewed by Jérôme Guillas
Translated By Merl Storr
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LJD: Her nomination is a strategic error?</b>

NB: Yes, it’s a strategic error. She is going to have to debate with Joe Biden. I don’t know her very well, I’m sure can make her case, but all the same I think things are going to get rather tricky there.
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LJD: She’s not up to the job.
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NB: No, and her beauty queen past simply underlines her lightweight status. It doesn’t exactly help her to get taken seriously, and nothing will make up for her political inexperience. And female Democrats who are disappointed that Obama took the wind out of Hillary Clinton’s sails will never vote for McCain just because of that. Palin’s anti-abortion stance is too well established. She’s the female Democrats’ worst nightmare.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[acharya]

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Le Monde, France
<b>She Believes in God, America,The Family and Firearms</b>

By Dominique Dhombres
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Palin’s family and personality have received more publicity in the past few days than have her views on politics and foreign policy, something that doesn’t reflect well on America’s intellectual state nor on its media. A preacher moderated the first one-on-one debate between the two candidates and they had to justify their views on faith and their dealings with biblical evil. <b>A politician whose stance on war and peace is essentially unknown could be President five months from now and Americans are talking about the effects of her daughter’s pregnancy.

The nation where this is taking place is the mightiest on earth. But for how much longer?</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->