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Social Eng Plots In Bollywood

Khoon Pasina (1977)

Ram alias Tiger is the local criminal don in his part of the town where he lives with his mother. His mother wants him to marry and settle down, and give up his criminal activities. Ram meets with Rekha and both are attracted to each other, and soon get married. Rekha is appalled at the way Ram leads his life, with everyone around petrified of him. She asks Ram to give up his criminal activities, and get a job. Ram agrees, but the question is will he keep to his promise or will he just pretend to be honest in front of Rekha. And on the other hand is Shera, a dacait with a good heart. Both Ram and Shera are rivals. When Shera hears of Ram attemtping to go straight, he decides to move in on Ram's territory, with results that will change their lives forever. Written by rAjOo (gunwanti@hotmail.com)

At the time of Partition, two boyhood friends Aslam (a Muslim) and Shiva (a Hindu) are taught by their fathers to abhor lies and injustice and fight for the communal good. Their fathers, Rahim and Ram, stand up to gangster boss Zalim Singh who has them murdered by stirring up religious hatred. The boys are separated in the chaos. Aslam is presumed dead and Shiva is brought up by Aslam's mother. Shiva becomes "Tiger" a vigilante who battles villains and the oppressors of the poor. Aslam becomes "Shera" a respected and feared figure living on the fringes of society, earning his living protecting merchants from thieves. He uses his wealth to help the poor but cannot get over the loss of his boyhood friend. When Tiger is (falsely) accused of killing a poor farmer, Shera sets out to track him down and confront him, not knowing that the man he seeks to kill is none other than his long lost friend... Written by van Goethem
Author: van_goethem from London, England

On one level, Khoon Pasina is an action-packed revenge saga with knockabout violence, some shoddy production values and (in the case of the abbreviated DVD) a rather incoherent narrative. It is also a fashion House of Horrors. Flared trousers of truly epic proportions are paired with some of the most ghastly clothes ever created. Even at a distance of 30 years and a continent or two, it's hard not to cringe at Vinod Khanna's wet-look leather two piece with leopard skin trim.

On another level, the film is alive with contradictions :

· the opening voice-over expresses patriotic sentiment - but this is a state that completely fails to protect its citizens from the deprivations of criminals; · a schoolteacher tells his pupils they are to become the lawyers, doctors, farmers etc. of the future. But the film's heroes are men who talk with their fists, lack any kind of regular employment and dispense vigilante justice with impunity; · we are led to admire the courage of those villagers who face down an armed thug but when one of the heroes lets a tiger out of its cage in the middle of a crowd (to impress a girl) we are supposed to view it as just jolly good fun; · loving ones mother is one thing - but trying to beat up your wife is not an acceptable way of proving it; · we are invited to deplore contractors who exploit their workers but when one of the heroes destroys a farm in pursuit of a criminal gang, there is no suggestion that he ought to apologise or compensate the owners.

On the acting front, the less said the better. Stacey Keach lookalike, Vinod Khanna, considers himself to be dead since losing his boyhood friend. His acting accords strongly with his self-perception - except during the action sequences which are wildly implausible.

You watch Amitabh Bachchan with morbid fascination. It's not the acting, it's those appalling clothes. Rekha cannot help but look gorgeous but has too little to do. Mercifully, by wearing traditional clothes, she is spared the worst sartorial excesses of her co-stars.
Kasauti (1974)

Neeta and Sapna are two friends who live in Bombay, India. Neeta is married to a blue collared worker, who first loses the use of his legs in an accident, and then subsequently turns blind. Sapna, whose dad has passed away, now lives with her mom, and her foster father, Pramod. In order to make money for a living, Neeta becomes a prostitute, and wants Sapna to improve her lifestyle. Sapna accompanies her, is molested by Heera, and rescued by a taxi-driver, Amitabh Sharma. Both Amitabh and Sapna fall in love and want to get married. Before that could happen, Sapna is arrested by the Police for assaulting Pramod, she is tried in Court, where she remains silent, and gets a six month jail sentence. When she is discharged, Amitabh tells her that her mom has been arrested and is serving life in jail for killing Pramod. When both are about to get married, Amitabh's dad objects to this marriage, as he does not want any relationship with a former jailbird and a woman who mother is a murderer. Unable to stand in the Sharma family way, Sapna decides to leave Bombay and re-locates to Calcutta where she establishes herself as a stage actress, while Neeta, whose husband passes away, is arrested by the Police for prostituting. The question remains, will Sapna and Amitabh ever get back together again, and if they do, will Amitabh's family accept Sapna? Written
Roti Kapada Aur Makaan (1974)

After the retirement of his dad, the onus is on Bharat to look after the Delhi-based family. He has two younger college-going brothers, Deepak and Vijay, and a sister of marriage age, Radha. Bharat is a graduate, but is unable to secure any employment, much to the frustration of his girlfriend, Sheetal. Vijay takes step to secure his own future, by turning to crime, which is strongly opposed by Bharat, and as a result Vijay leaves the house. Mohan is Sheetal's boss, and finds her very attractive. When he proposes marriage, she accepts, and soon both are married. This leaves Bharat devastated, unable to deal with life, and unable to afford the basic needs of Roti (food), Kapada (Clothing), and Makaan (Shelter), he must now decide to carry on honestly, or otherwise. Written
Namak Haraam (1973)

Somnath (Somu) lives in a shanty house in a Delhi slum with his widowed mom, and unmarried sister, Sarla. He is friendly with Calcutta-based wealthy Vikram (Vicky) Maharaj. When Vicky's dad, Damodar, has a heart attack and is advised to take bed-rest for two months, Vicky fills in his father's shoes, has a confrontation with a senior employee and union leader, Bipinlal Pandey, which results in a strike. His father intervenes, asks Vicky to apologize to Bipinlal, which Vicky does, and everything returns to normal. Vicky confides about his humiliation with Somu, and both conspire to teach Bipinlal a lesson. <b>As a result, Somu accompanies Vicky to Calcutta, gets a job as a laborer in his mill, befriends his fellow-workers, gets some monetary relief to injured workers, amongst other benefits, is elected as the union leader replacing Bipinlal. </b>With Somu as the union leader and Vicky as the boss there is no stopping these two - until Damodar finds out and decides to put a stop to Vicky being influenced by Somu's middle-class ideas and ideals. Damodar starts a chain of events that get out of control, events that may well see the death of one of the friends at the hands of the other. Will Vicky's and Somu's friendship see them through or will it also be a casualty? Written
Dost (1974)
Maanav is an orphan who was brought up by a Catholic Priest, Father Francis. After completing his M.A. he returns home to Taran Devi and finds out that his mentor his dead.</b> He re-locates to Bombay by train, and a man named Gopichand Sharma attempts to steal his luggage, but Maanav chases him and retrieves it. Both men become friends, despite of their differences - Maanav wants to lead a honest life, and Gopichand, who is estranged from his wife, a nurse, Kalyani, and son, Munna, is an alcoholic and thief. Gopichand eventually changes his lifestyle, decides to be honest, patches up with his family, but ends up antagonizing his crime boss, Monto Sardar, who chops off his right hand. Maanav gets him a job with Hercules Milk Foods. Maanav meets with and falls in love with Kaajal Gupta, who is the daughter of the owner of Hercules Milk Foods, much to the chagrin of her dad who wants her to get married to Shyamal. Then one day Maanav disappears from Gopichand and Kaajal's lives. He re-locates to Simla and it is here that he learns that things have spiraled out of control as Gopichand has been arrested for marketing contaminated milk powder resulting in the deaths of hundreds of children. Maanav decides to return to Bombay and attempts to try and make sense why Gopichand committed this crime. Written
Acharya, who wrote stories for these movies?
These are the early western trained sociologists and leftists who entered the film and liberal arts industry in the late 60s and 70s. The andolan movement, angry young man, revolt against the govt and state, angry against the god in the temple are major themes of the Movies plots coinciding with the real life civil strife and strikes on Indian economy in the 70s.

They started the marxist interpretation of INDIan society and started all the film stories of the middle class, revolt and working class
quite a lot of story and screenplay writers were from the 'Progressive Writers' Movement'.
According to wiki , this movement was set up in London in 1935.
SOme of the famous film personalities of this group include Sahir Ludhianavi, Kaifi Azmi, rajinder Singh Bedi, majrooh Sultanpuri, Ishmat Chugtai, etc.
some of the films that rajinder singh bedi was associated with can be found here. Rjat Bedi's son is Narendra Bedi
Ishmat Chugtai here.

majrooh sultanpuri's mini biography at imdb says that
He was a serious poet who made significant contributions to the development of a sensibility and an idiom, that was truly inspired by the Progressive Writers Movement. In the early years after partition the poets felt hugely hemmed in by the their lack of reaching out to the people they were supposed to be addressing. Though they had a steady audience, it was very tiny compared to that enjoyed by popular media including that of the cinema. It was decided by a few poets and literary organisations to ride on the back of a popular medium to exploit the greater outreach of the cinema, and as it were, to spread the message. <b>Pardeep, Sahir Ludhianvi, Qamar Jalalabadi, Raja Mehdi Ali Khan, Shakeel Badayuni, Saghar Nizami, Rajinder Krishen and Majrooh Sultanpuri</b>, were all sucked into the insatiable vortex of the film world with Sahir having remained the most outstanding but Majrooh Sultanpuri being a close second.

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The Anjuman Tarraqi Pasand Mussanafin-e-Hind or Progressive Writers' Movement was a progressive literary movement in the pre-partition British India, consisting of a few different writers groups around the world.

The groups were anti-imperialistic and left-oriented, and sought to inspire people through their writings advocating equality and attacking social injustice and backwardness.

According to The Dawn, "Progressive Writers Movement in Urdu literature was the strongest movement after Sir Syed's education movement. The progressives contributed to Urdu literature some of the finest pieces of fiction and poetry. Undoubtedly, they were the trend-setters for the coming generation of writers, and their role cannot be denigrated or denied." [1]

* The Indian Progressive Writers' Association was set up in London in 1935.
* The Progressive Writers' Association was set up in Kolkata in July 1936.
* The All India Writers' Association was set up in Lucknow on 10 April 1936 under the leadership of Syed Sajjad Zahir.

Political parties

In politics, "left-wing", "the political left", or "the Left" are terms that refer to politics that seek to reform or abolish existing social hierarchies and promote a more equal distribution of wealth and privilege. In general, the left advocates for a society where all people have an equal opportunity, which they often describe as a "level playing field". Toward this end, most people who consider themselves left-wing support labor unions.[1] The term "the Left" can encompass a number of ideologies, including Progressivism, Social liberalism, Social democracy, Left-libertarianism, Socialism, Syndicalism, Marxism, Communism, and mainstream Anarchism.


From the 18th to 20th Centuries the "Old Left" argued that differences in social class determined the nature of a society. During the 1960s this perspective was broadened by the "New Left" to include an egalitarian approach to cultural politics, including "New Social Movements" based on anti-racism, feminism, environmentalism and LGBT rights. This turn to so-called "identity politics" has been decried by organizations of the Old Left[2] as being partially responsible, together with other failures to focus on the class structure of society as the essential issue, for the co-optation of leftist elements into establishment ones as in the neo-conservative and neo-liberals, greens, etc.

According to Barry Clark,[3]
“ Leftists... claim that human development flourishes when individuals engage in cooperative, mutually respectful relations that can thrive only when excessive differences in status, power, and wealth are eliminated. According to leftists, a society without substantial equality will distort the development of not only deprived persons, but also those whose priveleges undermine their motivation and sense of social responsibility. This suppression of human development, together with the resentment and conflict engendered by sharp class distinctions, will ultimately reduce the efficiency of the economy ”

Center left refers to the left side of mainstream politics in liberal democracies. These support liberal democracy, representative democracy, and private property rights in combination with tax funded spending on social welfare, active regulation of the economy, and some public ownership. "Center" is generally defined relative to a particular national or regional norm rather to some spectrum defined in terms of the global state of affairs.

Prominent examples of center-left parties include the UK Labour Party, the US Democratic Party[4], and the Social Democratic Party of Germany. There are also many nationalist parties who describe themselves as being on the left. For example in the United Kingdom in Scotland there is the Scottish National Party (SNP), in Wales there is Plaid Cymru (Party of Wales).

In some countries (especially the UK), "soft left" refers to reformist, democratic and/or parliamentary forms of socialism, whereas "hard left" refers to socialists who advocate more radical change in society. Organizations described as far left are rooted in the politics of the "Old Left." Ultra-left organizations are those on the extreme left of the political spectrum, such as autonomism and anarchism.

As with "center" the term 'left-wing' is relative to the politics of individual countries and regions. In an article on the 2001 general election in the United Kingdom, the American Washington Post newspaper observed that the British Conservative party's policies on healthcare and welfare would be on "the far left-wing fringe of American politics", and that the British election had been conducted way to the left of America's political dialogue.[5]

Although the left is generally thought of as being secular, in some Roman Catholic countries there is a tradition of liberation theology which focuses upon "social justice", and in some Protestant countries there is a tradition of Christian Socialism. Some philosophers and historians, such as Eric Voegelin[6] and Jacob Talmon[7], argue that the left is a utopian secular political religion.

Leftists themselves are divided among those who emphasize individual well-being (modern liberals) and communitarians (radicals and socialists).[3]

The Left has traditionally identified with the lower classes and with combating oppression. Thus the industrial revolution saw left-wing politics become associated with the conditions and worker's rights in the new industries. This led to movements advocating social democracy, socialism and trade unionism. More recently, the left has criticized what it perceives as the exploitative nature by current forms of globalization, e.g. the rise of sweatshops and the "race to the bottom", and either has sought to promote more just forms of globalization, such as fair trade, or has sought to allow nation-states to "delink" or break free of the global economy.

Although specific means of achieving these ends are not agreed upon by different left-wing groups, almost all those on the left agree that some form of government or social intervention in economics is necessary, ranging from Keynesian economics and the welfare state through industrial democracy or the social market to nationalization of the economy and central planning.[8]

As civil and human rights gained more attention during the twentieth century, the Left has allied itself with advocates of racial and gender equality and cultural tolerance.[9]

[edit] War and revolution

Historically, the left have been opponents of imperialist and colonial wars, and have championed anti-colonial rebellions.

While some segments of the left are inspired by a strict adherence to pacifism, much left-wing opposition to war arises primarily from anti-capitalist sentiment. Left-wing opposition to war is also often characterized by the internationalist belief that world's workers share common interests with one another, rather than with the powers governing their respective countries.

The Global Justice Movement movement, also known as the anti-globalisation or alter-globalization movement, are protesters against global trade agreements and the negative consequences they perceive them to have for the poor and the environment. This movement is generally characterised as left-wing, though some activists within it reject association with the traditional left. There are also those on the right, Pat Buchanan for example, who oppose globalization on nationalistic grounds. The Global Justice Movement does not oppose globalisation per se, on the contrary, it supports some forms of internationalism). The main themes of the movement are the reforms of international institutions such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, and the creation of an international social justice movement. It rejects the leadership of any political party, defining itself as a "movement of movements."

Left-wing political ideas and groups were involved in many of the anti-colonial movements in Africa, Asia and South America. Some left-wing groups in the developing world, such as the Zapatista Army of National Liberation in Mexico, Abahlali baseMjondolo in South Africa and the Naxalites in India, argue that the Western left usually takes a racist and paternalistic attitude towards popular movements in dominated countries. There is particular criticism of the role played by NGOs and the assumption by the Anti-globalization movement in Europe and North America that it is a global movement with an automatic right to lead movements in the South.

[edit] The left and post-modernism

Left-wing Post-modernist theories reject attempts at universal explanatory theories such as Marxism, deriding them as grand narratives. They argue for an embrace of culture as the battle grounds for change, rejecting traditional ways of organising such as political parties and trade unions, focusing instead on critiquing or deconstruction. Left-wing critics of Post-modernism view it as a reaction to the economic failure of State Socialism (both in Europe and Latin America and the USA) and disillusionment with authoritarian Communist regimes. They assert that cultural studies courses inflate the importance of culture through denying the existence of an independent reality.[14][15]

The most famous critique of post-modernism from within the left came in the form of a 1996 prank by physicist and self-described leftist Alan Sokal. Concerned about what he saw as the increasing prevalence on the left of "a particular kind of nonsense and sloppy thinking… that denies the existence of objective realities, or…downplays their practical relevance…",[16] Sokal composed a nonsensical article entitled "Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity",[17] in which a mix of mis-stated and mis-used terms from physics, postmodernism, literary analysis, and political theory are used to claim that physical reality, and especially gravitation, do not objectively exist, but are psychologically and politically constructed.

The journal Social Text published the paper in its Spring/Summer 1996 issue, whereupon Sokal publicly revealed his hoax. While some saw Sokal as attacking leftism in general, he was very clear that this was intended as a critique from within:

Politically, I'm angered because most (though not all) of this silliness is emanating from the self-proclaimed Left. We're witnessing here a profound historical volte-face. For most of the past two centuries, the Left has been identified with science and against obscurantism… epistemic relativism betrays this worthy heritage and undermines the already fragile prospects for progressive social critique. Theorizing about "the social construction of reality" won't help us find an effective treatment for AIDS or devise strategies for preventing global warming. Nor can we combat false ideas in history, sociology, economics and politics if we reject the notions of truth and falsity.… The results of my little experiment demonstrate, at the very least, that some fashionable sectors of the American academic Left have been getting intellectually lazy.[18]

Traditionalist thinkers (conservative) scholar/critics view post-modernism as nihilistic. Gary Jason claims that "The failure of socialism, both empirically and theoretically, ... brought about a crisis of faith among socialists, and Post-modernism is their response."[19]

The seeds of these leftist movement was sown by the colonial British and western academic institutions and being monitored and influenced for more than 70 years.

An entire generations of Indian elite and intellectuals were influenced by the leftist indoctrination and thought process. They then changed the Indian education from 1930s and changed the Indian text books with leftist and progressive thoughts.

The generation born after 1940 were target of the this education and indoctrination experiment in India. This generation is in their sixties now in India and in position of power and influence.

This may be the largest experiment on human society similar to communist revolution in Russia and China

Karan Johar's My Name is Khan (MNIK) is one form of social engineering. However its targetted to IM settled in USA. Its not about Hindu India as there is only one Hindu character in the movie played by Kajol.

From the 'bad' slums of Mumbai the path to Promised land is the USA. TSP is just skipped over. The movie highlights the thoughts about a sense on entitlement of Ind Muslims in US which got thwarted after 9/11. It imagines a US that is gora India where the laws and society nroms can be turned on itself to find a space for IM. Same time it has the distorted medieval Indian Muslims image of Blacks or habshis.

At same time it has elements of Bible: floods in mythical Wilhemina, Khan getting stabbed by a radical Muslim(shades of Jesus and betrayal by Judas), resurrection (Khan gets to meet great new "White" father aka US President who is black, after getting cured) and redemption(the shorn Sikh reporter and the little kid who confesses about the crime). And "Ham honge kamyab" gets rendered as a Gospel music in English: "We shall overcome!"

And a side note. Hindu women betrayed by Hindu husbands can be redeemed by marrying autistic Muslims.

The one real upright character who follows the American formuala of success through hardwork(Horatio Alger type) is Khan's brother(Jimmy Shergil) who imigrates to US and starts a business and succeeds yet maintians Indian family values: supports mother and autistic brother who gets all the care, marries within the religion and gives his brother a job to survive in US.) And he gets a sidey role.

One complaint is the penchant of SRK to denigrate successful Indians in is movies. In this movie,MNIK, the beauty products icon being denigrated is Shenaaz Hussian who created a successful beauty products company in US and has dozens of saloons in US. In Om Shantii Om, the actor Manoj Kumar the star of yesteryear patriotic films was ridiculed.

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I saw the Tamil Movie Vinnaidthaandi Varuvaaya yesterday. The movie is a extra-bold Christian attempt at subversion. The heroine is a Mallu Christian and the chauvinism on display is pathetic. They openly denigrate Hindus in the movie to the point that the heroine tells the hero that her father wud never allow her to marry him as he is a Hindu. She made it sound like he was a criminal and he shud hang his head in shame.

[color="#800080"](Well he should, but for a different reason: What kind of Hindu loser would WANT to marry a christian=terrorist?)[/color]

True to her word her father vows that "I will never allow my dauughter to marry a guy like him and that too a 'Hindu'". The gentle Hindu hero took no offence whatsoever after we are the secular people. The heroine's grandma asks the hero and his friend if they were christians. What trash! I took a look at the credits and was not at all surprised. Half the crew were Christian.

[/quote]This is bad. TN very badly hit with the evangelisation program.

Note the directly proportional relationship between the increase in christianism and evangelisation in the state and the covert but directly-targeted anti-Hinduism there (invisible hands of a christianism which doesn't want to be identified/caught in the following):

1. Destruction of Ramarsethu

2. The staged christist lawyers riot to prevent Hindus saving Chidambaranatha Kovil in court

Tamizh Nadu's had a huge number of crypto christians for over a decade now. Tamizh forums used to be full of virulent anti-Hindus. They are very scary.

Anyone want to bet DMK = christian? It's a cryptochristian front.
The social engg has another aspect too.

Have you ever seen a Hindu pujari shown in a positive light? Not me. A typical brahmin pujari is a fat, pot bellied glutton, nearly indecently dressed and out to cheat and deceive everyone. In many cases they are drug addicts, rapists, thieves too.

A xian padre? Ah!! A respectable figure, always addressed as FATHER!! Pujari hardly gets addressed as punditJI. A padre is a humanist, pujari a cruel man who is untouched by humanism. Padre is SECULAR, pujari a bigotted fundamentalist.

Ah a muslim. His Hindu friend will grab the blade of a sword and have his hand cut. Ever seen a reverse scenerio where a muslim is protecting a Hindu doing arti? NEVER.

All the terrorsists are Hindus, Main Hoon na!! Arm pushers are Hindus, a la Sarfrosh. There Mirchi seth is a Hindu, tilak on forehead, dhoti and all, also doubling as an astrologer. He is a arms peddler and a drug dealer!!

Quote:Hizbul Mujahideen endorses "My Name is Khan", finds the movie to be useful recruiting tool for terrorists

mar 19th, 2010

thank you so much, shah ruk khan.

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Ravi

Hizbul Mujahideen endorses "My Name is Khan", finds the movie to be useful recruiting tool for terrorists


Hizbul bets on My Name is Khan

Parimal Dabhi , Friday , Mar 19, 2010

Indian Express

Ahmedabad : No matter if an Asperger's Syndrome-afflicted Rizwan Khan goes on to actually help nab a terror mastermind during his self-vindication journey through the reels of My Name is Khan, the movie has found endorsement from an unlikely quarter: the Hizbul Mujahideen (HM).

At least, this is what the Gujarat Anti Terror Squad (ATS) has stumbled on, while interrogating the HM's alleged terror agent Bashir Ahmed Baba, suspected to have been scouting in Gujarat for impressionable recruits for terror training in HM facilities in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.

The 32-year-old Bashir, known in his home state Kashmir as the Pepsi Bomber (for his alleged expertise in turning empty cans of soft drinks into explosive devices), had been [color="#0000FF"]asked by his HM handler in PoK , Bilal Shera, to use the movie as an indoctrination tool.

ATS sources say Bashir was specifically told to use the movie to propagate the idea that Muslim youth across the world were perennially facing humiliation and derision, and they need to come together for jihad. [/color]

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i came up with the rudimentary terror incident explanatory algorithm on this blog a couple of days back

I did this in half-jest, but we should put together a list of reasons/apologias/rationalisations used by 'secular progressives' that end up encouraging fundamentalist type behavior in the Mohammedans and Christists

It really is the case that the Bombay 1993 blasts for instance had nothing to do with Ayodhya (lets face it it was a criminal incident of bombings by narco-terrorists) - and yet to this day every paper continues in the calumny. we also have crap like MNIK and that very silly movie New York, Maachis - the list is endless. we need to de-toxify our people from this malign agit-prop

it is almost toxic

3/19/2010 10:24 PM
A movie on Mirza-Malik could bring Bollywood lot of money, and also help many to seek citizenship of UAE/dubhai!?
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A movie on Mirza-Malik could bring Bollywood lot of money, and also help many to seek citizenship of UAE/dubhai!?


Why are so many hearts bleeding for Sania?

I have been her fan, proud of her. But now she is just 80 something ranking player. In India Pak match, whom will she cheer? Natural, the team that has Malik ie Pak team. It would be unfair to expect her to cheer India.

Coming back to topic. There is a lot od stink about pedophile xian priests. Latest in the list is an Indian.

Ever seen a pedophile padri in a picture?
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Is it a scene from a bollywood picture?
This post is related to and follows from my long, whiny, opinionated post in another thread.

I just can't keep up with the moronisms in India any more. Looks like the schedule of the western social engineering project to groom Indian women has advanced more than I knew.

Apparently Vogue (but of course) has got a Bollywho starlet and some other wannabe-westernised female Indian entities - who may or may not be famous too - to star in some "empowerment" video that is typically the type of 3rd world feminism that western patriarchy sells to the 3rd world, especially when it's time to groom the women of some 3rd world nation into 1. an exploitation product to be imported by the west and 2. make it unviable (not have useful offspring).


Not sure when this news and the video it is about are from.

If it is recent, then it is definitely related to the social engineering project (spammed about here) that follows linearly from the demonisation of Hindoo men.

The video itself is hysterical. Not only is that the most atrocious English I've ever heard (I understood less than 50% of the video; presumably it is the bollywho star itself vocalising - guess she spent all her money on her hair and not enough on learning to speak English, and only manages the "progressive 3rd world Indian speak" or whatever language she's intoning. It's *really* bad. Btw, is EN the only language she knows? Else is she equally bad at any Indian languages too?)


not only is > 50% incomprehensible, but it is filled with insipidity beyond anything even my worst-case predictions would have (dis)credited Indian brainlessness with.

I've never seen Indian progressives' equal in insipidity, in triviality. In posturing. In totally failed attempts at channeling what they think is western/progressive. These people are like ghastly clowns.

It really is worse than a textbook case of my example of how 3rd world mentalities of programmable females get programmed. It's hysterically bad: the extreme wannabe "liberated" posturing so typical of a 3rd world mentality, desperate to pretend it's on level with the 1st world and how the latter thinks.

It's quite pathetic. I'd be embarrassed, except I cheer everyone who makes me feel less stupid by their exhibiting even greater stupidity than anything I had dreamt possible. If I have air in my brains, then these people's are filled with helium. They're quite at beyond-imbecilic levels.

So I take it all back. Progressive Indian women are a great exploitation export product for western males. They're *made* to be sold off. They will be docile to their programming. The perfect dumb barbie, complete with diva attitude (towards men lower in the hierarchy) but one that will fawn admirably at her Phileas Fogg, since it's higher up the hierarchy and she'll be afraid to lose it. Someone really should start a "liberated Indian women wanting to date western men" site soon, there's so much money in this plan.

Eventually the barbies will be returned, when the novelty wears off: stupidity takes you only so far (and there's a reason E Asian women are preferred, as opposed to nitwits with 3rd world mentalities).

Here are some of the brilliant soundbytes I was able to catch and unpack (I wonder if I've missed more amongst the narrator's atrocious mangling of English):

- "your sins are my virtues". Presumably "your" is the Indian male/the love interest that the Barbie is addressing. Making the statement sound like whatever is wrong when a man does it automatically becomes an embellishment of the perfection of The Progressive Indian Barbie when she does it.

- the Indian Barbie also declared that its model range can be bisexual, asexual or have as many affairs as it wants. It's "my choice" chirrupped the programmable programmed doll.

Happy day! 'Cause that statement is a greenlight that her boyfriends/temporary husband also has the right to have as many extra-marital affairs as he wants. [Let's be egalitarian.] (People needn't be concerned: fortunately the era of unwanted kids is over, in all but the most devoutly christian households. Plus Indian progressives are becoming as disinterested in having kids as Australian atheists. So don't need to worry about an Indian repeat of the 80s trend of S Korean christian adoption centres selling allegedly unwanted kids overseas to western christian masters.)

Personally, I can't see why anyone would want to go through the boring motions of getting married if they're going to have affairs. Much less hassle to just remain single and keep track of your lovers via a little black book, IMO. But, diva barbies - especially in Indian cinema - have money to throw at as many lavish weddings as they want. And like bridezilla progammes in the west, the wedding is more important than the marriage for these types. They like having their pictures taken during big events, so naturally they'll want to trot down the isle like it's red carpet event.

- And the highly entertaining final line about "I am the universe" or some such, which is like a summary of the Diva Barbie model range's delusional self-perceptions entirely unwarranted by anything in their character, aka Diva attitude. Fabulous.

Typical 3rd world Indian notion of what is progressive. Of what is western. Of what is considered liberated.

Typical 3rd world "progressive" Indian notion of feminism.

Progressive Indian women are well suited to the equally insipid progressive Indian males. It's a pity the duo will be breaking up when I (or someone else waiting in the wings) sets up a dating agency to ship these dolls overseas. But the money will make the sellers feel less bad about it.

Typical programmable Indian dolls. And they will never even know it. Despite that Vogue hirelings wrote their script for them, they'll imagine these are actually their own thoughts.* Brilliant! Western social engineers probably never encountered such an easy population.

* The whole it's their "choice" bit is therefore the best part, as actually it's not a choice they truly make at all: it's their programming (to try to be more progressive, more western, more 1st world - or what they imagine these things are - than the progressive 1st world west), but they're programmed to *think* it's their choice, which is always the beauty of western social engineering on "ethnic" women as on other "minority" groups targeted for any engineering project.

It's all but more proof that Indians de-heathenise gracelessly. Serious genetic defect.* That combined with their subvertibility (which is what deheathenises them) will keep them 3rd world forever. Which is exactly where "progressive" Indian brains belong.

But it's a good test for seeing who all and how many are immune/insubvertible (heathen) and who is not.

The phase of testing Indian women in India begins. It will be pathetic if they perform worse than their E Asian counterparts, but they probably will.

* Just like Indian christo-islamics are supposed have some degree of Hindoo ancestry/genetics, and yet they're vicious and insipid, while Hindoos are the very opposite, which clearly proves that it is Nurture (ideology vs heathenism) and not nature (genetics) that determines how an Indian turns out,

in similar manner, progressiveness, subvertibility renders Indians brainless (a direct proportional relationship) and makes them likewise programmable by any and all memes out there. Which answers my own Q of why Indians should de-heathenise gracelessly: heathen nurturing being lost - which is all that stood between ethnic Indians and the abyss of incorrigible stupidity - their genetics is all that remains. And their genes are clearly not worth anything, as all I've seen in de-heathenised is a propensity to moronism that correlates with their degree of de-heathenisation. And it all begins with gangrene.

"Only death cures stupidity."

No wonder Indians are going extinct. And if they de-heathenise, will anyone (worthwhile) miss them? (No.)

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