Radical Islam and internal security

[Shambhu]

Mohammed Peerbhoy has a galaxy of stars bending over backwards to defend him: Susanna Roy, Rajdeep Sardesai, Sagarika Ghosh, Burqa Butt, the entire Italian Bahoo Network/IBN (copyright: some comment at Offstumped), Antonia Maino Herself, Raul Vinci, Bianca Vinci, JeeHuzoor MM SpinelessSingh, Arjun Singh, Shivraj Patil..

dammit someone needs to maintain a ready-reference list of all these lightbulbs...

[Guest]

Im afraid the Indian public doesnt realize that when it comes to islamic terror, how well he did in school or how rich he his matters little.

If he isnt helping in the jihad, then he isnt fulfilling his role as a true muslim.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>No one turns up at ancient Kerala mosque for Vidyarambham</b> 
Thrissur (Kerala), Oct 9 : Breaking tradition, no one turned up at the ancient Cheraman Juma Masjid in Kerala for the 'Vidyarambham' cermony when people initiate their children into learning on Dussehra.

<b>At this 1,500 years old masjid in Kodungalloor in Thrissur district, the tradition of Vidyarambham was started seven years ago.</b>

But the new tradition seems to have met with an abrupt break as no one turned up for the ceremony this year.

"One or two people came to the masjid inquiring about the ceremony a few days ago. But no one turned up (today). We don't know if there was discouragement from some quarters. We are really sad about the development," Abdul Khayoom, the general secretary of masjid committee, told IANS.

<b>The masjid started the practice of initiating children into learning, following request from a Hindu family staying nearby. Annually about 20 to 30 people would come to the mosque for the ceremony on Dussehra.

"Since Muslims do not have a ceremony like Vidyarambham, it is only non-Muslims who approach us," he said.</b>

Khayoom said, people brought their children to the masjid for initiation into learning not only on Vijayadashami day but on other days also.

"It is the Khatib (cleric) who does the initiation. We are only happy to help. I hope some people will turn up for Vidayarambham in the coming days," he added. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-thayilv+Oct 8 2008, 05:18 AM-->QUOTE(thayilv @ Oct 8 2008, 05:18 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Im afraid the Indian public doesnt realize that when it comes to islamic terror, how well he did in school or how rich he his matters little.

If he isnt helping in the jihad, then he isnt fulfilling his role as a true muslim.
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Marxist education started by Nural Hassan and others had created Billion sheeps.

[Guest]

<b>How many Muslims believe in being fanatics?</b>
<i>Daniel Pipes</i>

[Guest]

What should Muslims do?<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->How different it all is from the thought process of the late Dr Rafiq Zakaria, the eminent Muslim politician and scholar of Islam. In his book “Communal Rage In Secular India” (Popular Prakashan, September 2002) Dr Zakaria devoted the entire last chapter to “What Muslims Should Do?”, and accepting that there is a great deal of anxiety among Indian Muslims who believed there is little they can do to save themselves, he recommended the following.

  1. Confrontation has done no good to the Muslims. The only alternative is for them is to change their outlook. Muslims must try and become an integral part of the mainstream. They must wholeheartedly collaborate in enriching composite nationalism. For this, they must get out of their ghetto mentality, break the barriers of alienation and generate a harmonious environment.
  2. They must discard their worn-out prejudices and outmoded habits and adjust themselves to the requirements of the changing times. They must stop asking for doles which will only cripple them, and instead learn to stand on their own feet because the fact is that they have no true friends; many who show them sympathy are not sincere and do so only for electoral gain. Even Muslims from other countries have never come to their rescue. This has been proved time and again, and the wise must now take the hint and correct themselves.
  3. Muslims continue to live in a make-believe world of their own. Their leaders waste their energies in whipping up emotions and bringing more trouble to the ordinary Muslims. There are also the other “warriors” --- priests, academicians, journalists --- who add fuel to the fire by taking up cudgels on behalf of the community. Indian Muslims have to come out of this quagmire; they must show such self-appointed champions of their cause in their place; they must do their best to change the hostile attitude of the Hindus against them and take their proper share in the nation’s development.
  4. Indian Muslims must join hands with liberal Hindus to work zealously for harmony between the two communities. To succeed in this task, they must change their own behaviour, indeed their entire perception.
  5. Indian Muslims must boldly come forward to undergo all-round transformation in their style of functioning. The younger generation in particular will have to arm themselves both educationally and socially. They will succeed if parents shed their old habits, give up their outdated notions, and help encourage and help their sons and daughters to get the best education. Merit alone will give them reward; they must never seek patronage.
  6. Indian Muslims must disarm the jihadis and disown the bigotism which has made Muslims pariahs everywhere. They must give assurance to the non-Muslims that their religion stands for “live and let live”. This reformation will rejuvenate Islam itself.
  7. Without compromising the Quranic injunctions, Indian Muslims must agree to the introduction of certain much-needed, essential changes in the Personal, particularly the enactment of monogamy. There is, in fact, enough scope under the Shariah to amend the laws relating to marriage, divorce, dower and even maintenance.
  8. The controversy on the singing of Vande Mataram is meaningless. It was sung by all Muslim leaders of the Congress during the freedom struggle. Those Muslims who do not want to sing it, may not, but they must stand up when it is sung as a mark of respect to an anthem which has a hoary past and is declared as a national song. Why add hurt to an already worsening communal relationship?
  9. There is the question of family planning on which much of our country’s progress depends. It cannot be denied that Muslims have not taken to it as seriously as Hindus. This has to be corrected. There must be a vigorous campaign for its implementation among Muslims and their leaders in every sector must engage themselves to persuade them to adopt it so that they do not lag behind Hindus in fulfilling this most urgent task, without which India cannot succeed in eradicating poverty.
  10. Muslims must make a sustained effort to convince Hindus that they should have no fear of them and assure them that they harbour no enmity towards them, nor are in a secret conspiracy with Muslims elsewhere to harm them. They must give assurance that Muslims are as much the sons of the soil as Hindus and as committed to the country’s glory and prosperity as Hindus are.
  11. Finally, the punch line. “What Indian Muslims have to understand is that eventually it is not their leaders but they themselves who will have to make their destiny.”
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Cong cell seeks probe into Jamia encounter</b>
pioneer.com
PNS | New Delhi
Cornered by its new ally, the Samajwadi Party, on the Jamia Nagar encounter issue, the Congress too demanded a probe into the incident in which two terrorists were shot and Delhi Police inspector M C Sharma was killed.

A delegation of the Congress leaders belonging to the party’s minority cell met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh here on Saturday and asked for a convincing probe into the matter. “Doubts have to be cleared. If authorities have evidence it should be produced, otherwise an inquiry must be ordered,” Imran Kidwai, Congress minority cell chairman, told reporters.

“The probe should be fullscale and comprehensive to convince people at large,” he added.

The meeting with the PM was the outcome of an interaction of the Minority Cell on Friday.
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Here comes Congress appeasement policy.

[Husky]

http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...262&SKIN=K
Muslim accuses an islamaniac politician of SIMI connections and is slapped by Psecularism (aka christoislamicommunism).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Youth congress leader made scapegoat for questioning the SIMI links of their president</b>
11/10/2008 12:11:22  HK

New Delhi : YouthCongressKeralaState general secretary is ousted from his post for demanding probe against the SIMI connections of their president T Siddique.

<b>Jaleel Mohammad another Muslim leader in youth congress is removed from his post by National Youth Congress office bearers. Jaleel also accussed that office bearers in Youth congress is selected by taking bribes and not based on their political experience.</b>

The soft stand taken by alternate Kerala governments owe to their leaders connection with the Jihadi outfit. <b>Another SIMI leader K.T.Jaleel is now a Kerala MLA with the support of communist party.</b>

The arrest of SIMI terrorists involved in Blasts across the Nation from Aluva in Kerala was sabotaged by these Jihadi elements active in Kerala mainstream politics.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Bharatvarsh]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Girl set afire for wearing lipstick in JaipurSat, Oct 18 02:15 PM

An 11-year-old girl was set afire by a relative who was apparently enraged with her for being 'scantily dressed' and wearing a lipstick, police sources said.

The girl, Nazmeen, suffered 90 per cent burns and was stated to be in critical condition at the SMS hospital.

Police have arrested Salim, 55, who allegedly pour kerosene over the young girl and set her afire in Lal Kothi area in Jaipur, the sources said.

Salim was a distant relative of the girl and was furious at her for being 'scantily dressed' and wearing lipstick, the sources claimed.

The girl is in critical condition, hospital sources said.

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[Capt M Kumar]

The innocuous incident raises a pertinent question: Have public-funded universities like AMU and Jamia Millia accepted Mushirul Hasan’s assertion that “we owe no explanation to anyone except ourselves and to our faith” as their operating principle?

A dangerous social divide is being created between those who believe that terrorism must be stamped out and those who want to give the terrorists a protective cover built on a religious identity. The Muslim community must not allow itself to become a shield for those who want to disfigure India. Treason can’t be made respectable.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/128749/Treason...espectable.html

[Guest]

there is another version flaotign around
Grandad burns girl after 'rape' bid
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Saleem disappeared from the shop after the incident. "In her statement to the police on Friday, she alleged that Saleem burnt her when she tried on a lipstick in his shop. Her relatives, however, alleged that Saleem had taken the victim to a room at the back of his shop and tried to rape her. When she protested, he was infuriated, poured kerosene over her and set her on fire," the police said.

The police have recovered charred clothes of the girl and a bottle of kerosene from Saleem's shop. "We have recorded the statement of the girl and her relatives who alleged that Saleem tried to rape the girl. However, he probably could not commit the act as the girl fought back. We have booked him under section 354 (molestation) of the IPC," Asharma Chaudhary, circle officer (Adarsh Nagar), said.

[G.Subramaniam]

telegraphindia.com

The Bodos have realised that the illegal Bangladeshis pose a big threat to the identity of the indigenous people. People in the affected areas of Udalguri and Darrang complain of a systematic design by which the illegal migrants forcibly grab the land of the locals and fill the vicinity with more such “dubious” people from the char-chapori (riverine areas). The locals believe that it’s impossible to reconcile with such an attitude of the minority community. The inhabitants of Udalguri and Bhakatpara have cited many examples of forcible marriage after abduction of Bodo girls at the behest of the migrants. They believe that the psyche of these migrants has been hijacked by the jihadis, ISI and DGFI of Bangladesh.

[G.Subramaniam]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/P...how/3621429.cms

Bodo MP claims massive violence in Assam by Bangla migrants
21 Oct, 2008, 0358 hrs IST, ET Bureau
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NEW DELHI: Leaning on the allegations made by Mr S K Bwismuthiary, independent MP from Kokrajhar, on the recent communal violence in central Assam
, BJP and Left parties on Monday sought to turn the heat on the Congress by seeking a statement on the issue from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Egged on by the Opposition bloc, the Bodo MP, who was permitted by Lok Sabha Speaker Somnath Chatterjee to raise the issue during Question Hour, gave a forceful and detailed account of the violence that rocked parts of Assam recently.

Mr Bwismuthiary claimed there was `large-scale violence’ against ethnic Bodo and Garo tribes, Bengalis and Biharis by ‘illegal Bangladeshi immigrants’ in Bodo-dominated areas of Udalguri and Darrang districts. He said the ferocity of the attack, which claimed the lives of several innocent people, had unnerved him. He also claimed ‘pro-Pakistani’ and ‘jihadi’ elements masterminded the attacks, and alleged they cocked a snook at the Indian establishment by hoisting Pakistani and Bangladeshi flags.

With Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, representing Assam in the Rajya Sabha, the speech was enough fodder for BJP MPs to seek a statement from the PM.

The independent MP stunned the House by alleging that two Bodo women were gang-raped during the course of the mayhem.
CPM leader Mohammed Salim wanted the prime minister to make a statement, saying the violence in Assam was being perpetrated in the name of religion leading to killings and forcing lakhs of people to take shelter in relief camps.
Mr Bwismuthiary, who also sought a CBI probe into the incident, finally heeded to requests by some Congress members to return to his seat from the well.

The BJP, while speaking to mediapersons later in the day, sought to corner the UPA government on the issue. ``The prime minister is an MP from Assam. But displaying complete insensitivity, he, rather than assuaging the members’ feelings by making a statement, left the House abruptly,’’ Ms Sushma Swaraj alleged.

[G.Subramaniam]

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1081021/jsp/...ory_9997348.jsp


P threatens to strip in House
- Bodo leader fumes at govt silence on Assam clashes
OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
Bwismuthiary

New Delhi, Oct. 20: A Bodo MP today threatened to undress in Parliament after the government refused to respond to his tirade against Muslims for allegedly attacking tribals in Assam.

A stunned Lok Sabha — Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi were in the House — watched as Sansuma Khunggur Bwismuthiary took off his jacket in the well. He was about to remove his trousers when some members persuaded him to return to his seat.

Bwismuthiary was protesting against the government’s reluctance to order a CBI probe into clashes in Assam that have left over 50 Bodos dead and over two lakh people homeless.

Speaker Somnath Chatterjee allowed the MP to raise the matter as soon as the House reassembled after an adjournment in the morning.

Bwismuthiary wasted no time in blaming “Muslim attackers” for the clashes. With no one from Assam to dispute his claim in the House, his verbal onslaught continued unabated.

Violence erupted in two Assam districts — Udalguri and Darrang — earlier this month after mobs attacked tribal villages, killing people and setting homes on fire.

Bwismuthiary said the “carnage” had been engineered by “pro-Pakistani Muslim jihadis”, who had allegedly shouted anti-India slogans while “looting, raping and murdering innocent tribals”.

By this time, the CPM’s Mohammad Salim had had enough. He slammed the Bodo MP for his tirade against Muslims and urged the government to find out the truth.

As some other Left leaders joined Salim, the BJP members rose to their feet to back Bwismuthiary.

While the BJP brigade chorused “shame, shame”, party deputy leader in the House Vijay Kumar Malhotra said the government should make a statement as Bwismuthiary’s allegations were grave.

The government refused, prompting all Bodo members to rush to the well and squat on the floor. When that, too, failed to elicit any response, Bwismuthiary stood up and threatened to strip.

He was persuaded to go back to his seat, but the commotion continued and the Speaker adjourned the House till 4pm.
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[G.Subramaniam]

http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/detail...id=oct2108/at05

State violence rocks Lok Sabha
Kalyan Baruah
NEW DELHI, Oct 20 – Lone BPF MP, Sansuma Khunggur Bwiswmutiary today nearly created history of sorts, when he single handedly managed to stall the proceedings of the Lok Sabha over the recent incidents of violence in the twin districts of Darrang and Udalguri. The Kokrajhar MP’s act in the House, however, put a question mark over the alliance with the Congress in Assam, as he indulged in verbal altercations with senior Congress leaders, loudly protesting the ‘State Government’s inaction’ during the carnage.

Visibly upset, UPA leaders including the Prime Minister, Congress president, Sonia Gandhi, External Affairs Minister, Pranab Mukherjee watched in silence, as Bwiswmutiary taunted the Congress MPs.

A stunned Prime Minister left the House mid-way, as the MP squatted in front the Treasury Bench, amidst chaos in the House, ignoring repeated warnings of Speaker, Somnath Chatterjee, who at one point of time threatened to suspend him.

However, these had little impact on Bwiswmutiary, who did not relent despite gentle persuasions of Congress floor managers. Congress leaders Madhusudhan Mistri, Kirip Chaliha tried to get Bwiswmutiatary return to his seat, but to no avail.

To the embarrassment of the Congress Party, the MP accused Tarun Gogoi Government of inept handling of the situation, adding to the glee of the opposition BJP. His remarks naming a community, later expunged by the Speaker, left a section of the MPs including the CPI-M members very agitated, as the Speaker realising the futility of situation adjourned the House for over three hours.

As reported by this newspaper on Friday, Bwiswmutiary again served a notice for discussion and he came prepared complete with photographs of the carnage. He had them wrapped around his chest and rushed to the Well of the House, as soon as it resumed proceedings, this afternoon.

The BJP leaders including Rajen Gohain, Narayan Borkotoki and Khiren Rijiju, among others, joined him. The pandemonium continued for a while, before the Speaker managed to bring order by requesting other MPs to get back to their seats. But the Speaker’s plea had no impact on Bwiswmutiary, who continued with his protest first at the Well, then opposite the Treasury bench.

The Bodo MP, however, returned to his seat, after the Speaker assured him to allow him to speak at the first opportunity. True to his words, he allowed him, as soon as the papers were laid, but requested him to take off the photographs tied around him.

A thundering Bwiswmutiary then started off by giving a detailed account of the violence, alleging that Pakistan-backed fundamentalist forces were responsible for the riots. He claimed that religious sanctity of a particular community has been insulted.

Describing the acts of violence as diabolical assault on the integrity of the country, he alleged that Pakistani flags were hoisted, in at al least three places by the fundamentalist forces. He charged that members of different communities were attacked, even as the Police failed to make sense of the palpable tension.

Seizing the opportunity, the Opposition Bench joined the commotion and demanded a statement by the Prime Minister, as he was a MP from the State. However, Bwiswmutiary has not yet finished and once again rushed to the Well of the House shouting slogans. He wanted the Speaker to allow him to complete his speech.

By this time, the temperatures in the House had gone up by several notches and Chatterjee had a tough time pacifying the MPs. Finding the Speaker unrelenting, Bwiswmutiary first squatted on the floor of the House in front of the Speaker and then in front of the Prime Minister and Sonia Gandhi.

Sensing that the situation was slipping out of hand, the Speaker adjourned the House saying, “ I hope the country is seeing how MPs are deliberately stalling proceedings for political gain.”

The unsavory developments left the Congress Bench mood sour. A handful of State’s MPs including Chaliha, Dip Gogoi, Anwar Hussain and the two ministers could do little to counter the Bodo MP. The Guwahati MP was seen trying to intervene but failed to do much.

Later, Bwiswmutiary told newsmen that he wanted a probe by the CBI into the violence.

He held the district administration and local police officials responsible for the violence. However, he wondered how the Chief Minister could take so much risk by claiming that it was not a Pakistani flag.

<b>Bwiswmutiary, further said he was thoroughly unhappy with the role of All Assam Students Union and those leaders, who were torchbearers of the Assam agitation. “Hindustan is gone for ever,” he remarked, as BJP MPs rushed to shake his hands after the heated exchanges.</b>

[Guest]

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Muslim clerics on Monday held a conclave in Azamgarh district on the arrests and killing of community youth by police in connection with the recent serial blasts, sending the political parties into a frenzy.

The Ulema Council organised 'Ajimoshaan Ehtazazi Ijlaas-e-Aam', a gathering of clerics from across the country, who resolved to teach a lesson to those who are now calling Azamgarh 'Atankgarh' in the wake of the arrests and killing of several young men from the dictrict by the police, in connection with the recent blasts.

In a blow to parties who went to the homes of Muslim families in Sanjarpur village whose sons had either been killed or arrested, the clerics cautioned the three MPs connected to Azamgarh — Akbar Ahmad 'Dumpy' (BSP MP from Azamgarh), Iliyas Azmi (BSP MP from Shahbad) and Abu Azmi (Rajya Sabha member from the SP) — and said they would not be allowed entry if they failed to get their message of outrage across to Parliament.

<b>The clerics also decided to lodge 250 cases against BJP MP from Azamgarh Yogi Adityanath, accusing him of turning the district into a cauldron of communal violence</b>.

The main speaker at the conclave, Abdul Wahab, maintained Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism. "They are equal partners in the country and those who treat them as tennants should check themselves as early as possible."

Muslim Political Council, Delhi, chief Dr Taslim Rehmani went to the extent of equating Nathuram Godse and Sardar Patel to terrorists. "The first terrorist of independent India was Nathuram Godse, while Sardar Patel was the second," he reportedly said.

<b>Mufti Abdul Kalam claimed that it was at the behest of Israel that atrocities were being perpetrated against Muslims in the country</b>. The gathering — where a crowd of more than 15,000 had assembled — was attended by over 100 Muslim clerics.

Blaming ruling parties at the Centre and in UP for the arrests and killings, the speakers criticised Chief Minister Mayawati and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi for indifference towards Muslims.

The clerics also decided to actively guide the community in getting its own public representatives, who don't have affiliations to any party.

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[Bodhi]

If Sardar Patel was a 'terrorist', so am I
Kanchan Gupta| The Pioneer
October 26, 2008

Ever since Azamgarh hit the headlines in newspapers and grabbed prime time on 24x7 news channels after the police tracked many of the bombers responsible for the slaughter of innocent people in Jaipur, Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Delhi to this district of Uttar Pradesh, mullahs and politicians who trade in Muslim votes have been flocking there to record their indignation that those guilty of mass murder should be brought to justice.

Earlier, Azamgarh would provide the cannon fodder for Mumbai's vicious and bloody gang-wars with Azamgarhis offering their services as 'hitmen' to Dawood Ibrahim and others of his ilk. The argument one would often hear in justification of their carrying out 'supari' killings was two-fold: The lure of Mumbai's glittering lifestyle and easy money; and, the frustration of unemployed Muslim youth discriminated against in 'Hindu' India.

Those who terrorised Mumbai's rich and famous, ran extortion, betting and hawala rackets, killed defaulters and the defiant in cold blood, and took delivery of contraband ferried to the city's shoreline from Dubai in dhows were not to blame for their crimes - they were victims of an elaborate 'conspiracy' against Muslims and an 'uncaring' system. Any effort to tame the mafia was resolutely met with howls of protest and cries of 'Muslims are being targeted'.

Few people would remember today that when Mrs Indira Gandhi introduced what was then considered a tough law to fight organised crime and money-laundering under the guise of the Conservation of Foreign Exchange and Prevention of Smuggling Activities Act, popularly known as COFEPOSA, she was accused of 'targeting Muslims' and trampling on 'civil liberties' because most of the high profile arrests were those of Muslim gangsters like Haaji Mastaan. According to an apocryphal story of that time, when the police went to arrest a notorious racketeer in Gujarat's Jamnagar his henchmen claimed their boss was praying and hence could not be disturbed. When the police insisted on entering the house, a huge crowd gathered to block their way, raising slogans similar to those heard in Jamia Nagar in Delhi after Atif and Sajid, two members of the murderous Indian Mujahideen, were killed in an encounter on September 19. Later it transpired that the wanted man was busy burning incriminating documents; what could not be destroyed, including wads of high denomination currency notes, was cleverly concealed under the burqas of the women in the house.

Riding the crest of the 'Muslims-under-attack' protest, Haaji Mastaan floated the Muslim Majlis Party; that it sank without a trace soon after bears testimony to the fact that most Indian Muslims are as repelled by criminals who use the cloak of Islam to justify their crimes as the rest of India. If they falter, it is on account of cynical politicians and rabid mullahs, though not necessarily in that order, of the variety that has been travelling to Jamia Nagar and Azamgarh to genuflect at the
altar of jihadi Islamism.

To take note of the utterances of politicians like Mr Amar Singh and Ms Mamata Banerjee, who have been visiting Jamia Nagar and denigrating the supreme sacrifice of MC Sharma, a Delhi Police anti-terrorism expert, with the sole purpose of instigating a Muslim blowback which they hope will fetch them votes, would be tantamount to elevating them as those worthy of comment. But it would be a grave mistake to ignore the statements of the mullahs because embedded in them is the sinister strategy to radicalise India's Muslims and thus make them a part of the global surge in Islamism; they also indicate a design to reiterate and reaffirm Muslim separatism anchored in bogus grievances and imagined victimhood.

Last Monday, the Ulema Council organised an Ajimoshaan Ehtazazi Ijlaas-e-Aam, a conclave that was attended by 100 Muslim clerics from across the country, where mullahs made two points through their fire-and-brimstone speeches, listened to with rapt attention by 15,000 people. First, Akbar Ahmed 'Dumpy', BSP MP from Azamgarh and a former Sanjay Gandhi crony who recently appeared in Parliament with his face covered with an Arabic kaffiyeh much like Osama bin Laden's foot soldiers, Mr Iliyas Azmi, BSP MP from Shahbad, and Mr Abu Azmi, SP member of Rajya Sabha who openly preaches hate and worse, would not be allowed to enter Azamgarh unless they conveyed to the world the 'outrage' over the arrest and killing of Muslims from the district, never mind the fact that they went about setting off bombs in bazaars and hospitals. Second, they "resolved to teach a lesson" to those who had renamed Azamgarh as 'Atankgarh': The credit for this goes to the atankwadis or terrorists who seem to flourish in the gullies and mohallahs of Azamgarh but as always, pretending victimhood, the mullahs have sought to place the blame on the victims of the Indian Mujahideen.

All this was of a piece with what Syed Ahmed Bukhari, the Shahi Imam of Delhi's Jama Masjid, had said while commiserating with the jihadis of Azamgarh: "We have lost faith in the administration and the police of the country and are feeling insecure." What was not mentioned but disingenuously implied is that having lost their faith in the Indian state, India's Muslims must now look elsewhere.

But it was Taslim Rehmani, the chief mullah of Muslim Political Council, Delhi, who made the most startling declaration at last Monday's Ajimoshaan Ehtazazi Ijlaas-e-Aam: He described Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel as a "terrorist". Later, when contacted by this newspaper, he lashed out at Sardar Patel for "forcibly annexing Hyderabad" and reiterated his assertion: "Sardar Patel was responsible for all the riots after Partition, for lakhs of Muslims who were killed in the riots. He deliberately allowed them to be killed. He was a terrorist."

There are those who would scoff at Rehmani as an inconsequential mullah and urge others to ignore his rant. This is the usual response to every offensive statement, each hateful allegation, and all despicable calumny that we get to hear from the spokesmen of the community, berating Hindus, shaming the Indian state, belittling the nation, and denigrating national icons. To listen to the counsel of those who are not perturbed because they do not wish to see their vote-bank go the way of Lehman Brothers would be to toe the line of least resistance. As a nation we must stand up and counter such insidious propaganda that nourishes jihadi Islamism and confront the preachers of hate and peddlers of fiction as fact who masquerade as 'learned men', or ulema. To prevaricate would be to delay the inevitable clash between those who are with India and those who are against the idea of India. The cost then would be enormous.

[acharya]

http://www.twocircles.net/2008oct21/indian...l#comment-11451


<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindus and minorities in India
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 22 October 2008 - 12:37pm.

In the U.S. the African Americans are 12%.

Do we see the majority, the whites, talking as if the country's future depended on the 12 % ?

Would we see an article similar to this in an American newspaper ?

No, the majority in the U.S. has confidence in its abilities. So the question is why the Hindus do not have confidence in their abilities.

The reason of course is that the Hindus are not capable of leading India, and this is becoming amply clear.

Earlier, I thought that the Hindus had the capabilities because they had leaders of stature like Nehru and Gandhi.

However, the progressive rot of the last 20 years due to the rise of Hindu communalism has led me to re-evaluate the situation.

First, the communalism and threats of the RSS and Hindu Mahasabha in the 1920s, led to the Muslims demanding a separate nation. Even the best Hindus like Gandhi and Nehru could not avert the consequences sown by the RSS and Hindu Mahasabha.

That Hindu penchant for disintegration continues. The Sangh parivar has multiplied like a hydra - now besides the parent RSS, there is VHP, Shiv sena, Bajrang Dal and many others of the same ilk. And with them further disintegration of the concept of India has occurred.

Kashmir wants to separate. The same with the NE and Assam. And now these fascist Hindus have sown mistrust and hatred between Hindus and Muslims, Christians and Sikhs, in the heartland of India.

So the question is 'Why are Hindus like this ?'.

In my analysis, fragmentation is a natural Hindu mentality that arises from the caste concept.

Before we can build a modern India, we need to lay the correct foundations.

If Hinduism's fragmentation mentality can be reformed, let this happen. Otherwise, Hindus must be recommended to convert.

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<b>Islamists block social reform</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Balbir K Punj
The encounter death of four Kerala-based terrorists in Jammu & Kashmir has revealed the multi-State ramifications of the jihadi terror network across the country. Typically, the Kerala link of the terrorists killed by the security forces in Jammu & Kashmir was initially denied by the State police and subsequently confirmed.

Over just a week not only have many more Kerala-based jihadi terrorists been apprehended, the police have admitted that a huge network has been in operation for quite some years in the State. The arrest of Abdul Jalil and Muhammed Faizal near the north Kerala town of Kannur has led to the disclosure that 80 young men have been recruited, brainwashed in State-level camps, and sent to terror training camps on the other side of the Line of Control.

For the record, the Left Democratic Front Government’s Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan has instructed the State security forces that they should go ahead and unearth the entire jihadi network. This is just a red herring, accuses Muslim Youth League president KM Shaji. In fact, the State Home Minister has been close to the ultra-conservative and extremist National Democratic Front one of whose associates, Abdul Nasser Madani, was the main accused in the 1999 serial bombings at Coimbatore that were meant to eliminate BJP leader LK Advani. Madani was released after a long term in jail following his acquittal in the case due to ‘technical’ reasons. Kerala politicians have been competing with each other to pay obeisance to this extremist ever since his acquittal.

Mr Shaji has revealed that the first place where Mr Kodiyeri Balakrishnan went after taking his oath of office was to an NDF leader’s house. Several NDF leaders are believed to have been his guests at his official residence for long. He hails from Tallacheri, the north Malabar hub of jihadi politics. In the last Parliament and Assembly elections, the LDF had secured the NDF’s support that helped the Left to defeat candidates of the Indian Union Muslim League which is part of the Congress-led UDF. Some months ago the Kerala Police had revealed that after it came to know about a jihadi camp and launched inquiries, it was stopped in the tracks due to political pressure.

The Kerala link of the jihadis killed in Jammu & Kashmir was exposed when voter identity cards were found in their pockets. It was a resident of Kannur, 24-year-old Faizal, who had taken the now slain Malayalee Muhammad Faiz and Muhammed Fayas to Bangalore en route to Hyderabad. Military intelligence sources had told the Kerala Police that a large number of youngsters from the State had managed to reach Jammu & Kashmir and crossed the LoC to participate in militancy. Abdul Jalil, also a resident of Kannur, was picked up after electronic surveillance showed he was receiving telephone calls from militants in Jammu & Kashmir.

Kannur will ring a bell for all those who have been following recent events in Kerala. It is the most powerful base of the Marxists. In the entire north Malabar region Marxists are guided from Kannur in their periodic attacks on those opposed to the CPI(M), including workers and leaders of the RSS and the BJP. Despite claims to the contrary, the fact remains that many people continue to be killed in political clashes in Kannur due to the Marxists who impose their diktat with an iron fist. Even local leaders of the CPI have suffered at the hands of the Marxist cadre.

Both Marxism and Islamism reject democracy and the rule of law. While the Marxists swear by their party ideology, Islamists swear by shari’ah and demand that the state impose and implement Islamic law. For the latter, the state cannot frame any law inconsistent with shari’ah. Any discussion on the validity of shari’ah is forbidden. Therefore, there is no scope for socio-economic reform of the kind seen in democratic and plural societies.

This is vastly different from what the BJP practices. For instance, the party and organisations that take a pro-Hindutva stand do not claim to know the ultimate truth or the only truth. Nor are they opposed to socio-economic reforms. For instance, they do not ask for return to what is normally identified with Hindu orthodoxy — untouchability, caste discrimination, permanent widowhood or denial of property rights to daughters, etc. So long as a religion does not claim to exclusive ownership of truth, it has scope for reform. And reform cannot be achieved except through discussion, debate and democracy.

In this context, it would be instructive to recall a recent article written by Mr Arif Mohammed Khan, who resigned from Rajiv Gandhi’s Government and the Congress after the Muslim Women’s Bill was introduced and adopted to reverse the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Shah Bano case. In that article, penned to commemorate the great 19th century Indian educationist Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, he has recalled how the Muslim clergy and orthodox Hindus reacted to the introduction of education in English.

When the British authorities announced a programme in 1835 to introduce English in schools, a huge majority of Muslim clerics signed a petition to oppose the move; they claimed the philosophy of such education imparted in English was at variance with the tenets of Islam. Mr Arif Mohammed Khan has also recalled the opposition that Sir Syed had to encounter when he started education in English for Muslims and how fatwas were issued against him.

On the other hand, when in 1829 the British set up a Sanskrit College in Kolkata, orthodox Hindus strongly opposed the decision, asking the British to set up English medium schools instead. Obviously, this contrasting attitude resulted in more Hindus learning English and moving forward with it while the reverse held true for Muslims even 100 years later.

Mr Arif Mohammed Khan recalls how <b>Sir Syed reacted to the opposition to his persistence with reforms in his community. He believed “the way to reform lies through discord and not through unity. It is for the reformer boldly to violate the customs of his group…” From Raja Rammohun Roy to Swami Vivekananda, KB Hedgewar to Veer Savarkar and Mahatma Gandhi, Hinduism benefited from socio-economic reforms. The resistance to reform, on the other hand, has now been elevated to loyalty to faith in Islam and a tribute to ‘secularism’ in Indian politics. This sums up the two contrasting situations and responses</b>.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>SIMI threat to blow up Sabarimala, Guruvayur and other prime centres</b>
04/11/2008 14:00:25  HK

Thiruvananthapuram: It has been reported that even after 3weeks receiving a threat to blow up Kerala, Political leadership ruling the state is in dark on what action to be taken. 

Threatening letter send in the name of SIMI, warns to blow Secratariat, AKG Mandir, Sri Padmanabha Swamy Temple, Kerala High Court, Sabarimala Temple, Guruvayur Temple, Kochi airport, Aluva overbridge, Multi store buildings in Kochi, Ernakulam North – South overbridges, Two main bridges across river Periyar etc are the main places mentioned in the threatening letter.The letter warns of blasts in these places before December 6th.

Police forces have taken adequate measures in case of Sabarimala and Guruvayur , told respective police superintends of Pathanamthitta and Thrissur district. Special battalion from Malappuram MSP camp is camping in Guruvayur and Armed battalion from Pathanamthitta Camp is deputed to Sabarimala based on the threat.

At a time Kerala is sweltering with Terror threats our Home Minister and family is enjoying their trip in USA leaving the whole department in the hand of Paloli Mohammadkutty.
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