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Indian Movies Thread V
Are there any movies that show muslims as terrorists and criminals ?
Watch "Munich", its basically fictionalized account of Israeli retribution for Munich massacre. Not far from true events. Shows what useless RAW should be like and Muslims for what they are.

Sh*twood (bollywood) movies will never show Muslims as terrorists. They are just misunderstood and ill-treated ppl, who turn into terrorists later on in life as a result of this.

<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Aug 10 2008, 01:38 AM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Aug 10 2008, 01:38 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Are there any movies that show muslims as terrorists and criminals ?
<b>TRUE LIES</b> (1994) - Islamic Terrorist
<b>Not Without my daughter</b> - (Iran Islamic culture) - My Favorite must see
<b>One Day in September (1999)</b> (One Day in September is a 1999 documentary film directed by Kevin Macdonald examining the September 5, 1972 murder of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, Germany. Michael Douglas provides the sparse narration throughout the film.) - My favorite

There is one movie based on Abu Nidal TWA Hijack incidence, very intense, I will find out title.

<b>Black Hawk Down </b>-
It would be useful to examine Indian films since Independence and see what were the themes that they had decade by decade in the last sixty years.

I think Bollywood is currently in grip of Islamist mafia.
Hey Ram, starring Kamalahasan for the first 45 minutes is very truthful

It shows Rani Mukerji being raped and having her throat slit by her muslim tailor
I heard those tailors have fetish about their clients. So riots etc are very dangerous for females.
muh tod jawab to journo

Indian Journalist & Pacifist gets a Lesson on Peace
Watch "a wednesday" *ing Naseeruddin Shah and Anupam Kher. Fantastic movie.
What is this issue with Bachchan?
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Sep 11 2008, 09:42 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Sep 11 2008, 09:42 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->What is this issue with Bachchan?

Jaya Bachchan inaugurating the music for 'Drona' spoke in Hindi, adding a comment that although she lived in Maharashtra she was a Bengali from UP and would speak in none other than Hindi. MNS had warned Bachchans to speak in Marathi in the film function. Likewise Priyanka Chopra who acted in this film addressed in Hindi too saying it was the launch of a Hindi film and not Marathi... all of this started another round of protests. MNS has challenged that this film will not be allowed to be screened in MH. In the end Bachchan apologized to Thackeray.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->India lost in Maharashtrat
Tarun Vijay

September 11, 2008

Since when has speaking in the national language become a crime that one has to apologise for it? Amitabh Bachchan [Images], instead of standing firm to save the honour of the words of his wife and his mother tongue, yielded to political pressure and apologised. What a shame!

To him the success of his film weighed more than the principle of India's nationhood. More than an individual artist or a Bollywood icon, he symbolises good things in life and people emulate him irresistibly. He hurts people deeply by acting in a film showing him in love with a girl half his age, and makes people ecstatic through a family that observes Indian traditions and shows a unique bonding that everyone dreams of -- respect for parents, loving and caring couples in the family, a UP-wallah boy marrying a Kannadiga girl happily in Maharashtra, and a joyful attitude, immense wealth with no malice.

What else does one need in life that he should be so afraid of a politician? He let us down with his unnecessary compromising attitude. It certainly is not humility.

He has to choose whether he is just a money-spinner or a concerned Indian who lives patriotism. When it benefited him personally, he became a politician and contested elections, and when silence brings more shine, he keeps mum on issues that affect the nation and her people. So when in trouble, should he expect the people to rise in unison to support him? No sir, the recent issue doesn't concern just one individual but the very concept of our nationhood.

Hence, he could have faced the ire of a few who are defying every principle of civil behaviour and pan-nationalism and the entire nation would have felt emboldened to support him. What Raj Thackeray and his ilk are doing in Maharashtra is simply anti-Shivaji and unbecoming of the great Maratha culture. They had no problem when Urdu is imposed and spoken and used from Mumbai to Vidarbha and Konkan because it is an 'unexplainable' face of secularism. They have no guts to ask maulvis to teach Marathi in madrasas, or have instructions in Marathi medium in all the schools run privately, specially by minority institutions. They attack the weak and vulnerable (not financially but conscientiously so).

Every reasonable and proud Maratha should have come forward to uphold Maratha cultural dignity and help the Bachchans as a fellow Indian. But either they are afraid or are somewhat agreeable to Raj's tactics and purpose.

It is amazing that the elements who felt brave enough to use the harshest possible language against the patriotic people of Jammu, and declared that they didn't get a flat on rent for being a Muslim, are keeping a studied silence on Raj's divisive politics that gets breathing space from the same Congress that had created Bhindranwale.

Jai Mai Maharashtra

Maharashtra belongs to Maharashtrians as much it belongs to the other Indians. Agreed, the local culture and language must not only survive but also get support, willingly and enthusiastically, from all those who live there and have made the place their second home, rather first home, second being the one from where they came in search of better pursuits.

And Mai Maharashtra gave them all a shelter and space to shine globally. They got rich, and in turn enriched Maharashtra and India. That is the story of the blessed land that never discriminated against anyone on the basis of caste, creed or religion. Hence those who benefited have a moral responsibility to share their joys and wealth with fellow Maharashtrians, as a Maharashtrian, to further strengthen the attributes of the virtuous bhoomi.

But frankly, they have failed to give a perception of belonging to the local bhoomi, hence the undercurrent of massive support from the indigenous Marathi elite and the commoner even to some of the hateful actions of Raj. I have seen it among some well-intentioned editors who otherwise are globetrotters, but when the question of Mai Marathi comes, they speak as parochial a language as Raj. They give instances that are sometimes irrefutable.

Like some of the schools with 'international' tag that have opened in Maharashtra, but in none of these schools is anything about the great Maratha culture taught, not to say Marathi language. A UP-wallah or a Bihari and a Punjabi and a Tamil contribute their cultural traits and undoubtedly enrich the Maratha stream. But they never even try to learn the local language, which is one of the greatest languages in the world, having an extraordinarily gifted galaxy of writers and litt�rateurs. It's really sinful to spend your life in Maharashtra and remain ignorant about the works of Jnaneshwar, Tukaram or Pu La Deshpande, Namdev Dhasal and Kusumagraj.

You may add Tulsidas, Valmiki or Thiruvalluvar's works to the local social memory but still, even the adopted son of the soil must pay his obeisance through a willing assimilation with the local milieu. It has to come from within. The moment one tries to impose it from the outside, it is bound to turn ugly and the resistance grows.

This is not in support of people like Raj, but just to underline a fact that explains why there was a space created that inadvertently fed divisiveness and parochialism.

Where has the pan-national vision gone?

What are the centrifugal forces that keep the nation as one? A sense of belonging to common aspirations, icons of faith, and a commitment to widely acceptable pan-national vision.

Why should a Naga boy feel comfortable in Mumbai or in Murshidabad unless he is assured in his heart that the land belongs to him and the people are his own? If Mumbai behaves in a way Raj behaves, how can one stop a Taliban [Images] in Srinagar [Images] to behave in a national way or make Naga, and Manipuri people accept a Gandhi statue installed in Kohima and Imphal?

At the sub-conscious level the smaller identities and localised regionalism have become the mainstay of not only politics but also of the media which is getting focused on village-level news and features increasingly for a circulation boost. It is impossible to know about the national happenings or news about various parts of the country in newspapers which are otherwise 'national dailies'. Even electronic channels have gone local in search of more TRP ratings and lucre.

On the face of it, the phenomenon doesn't show anything negative that should affect the social fabric. Rather, increasing levels of prosperity and literacy have made smaller identities emerge as a big decisive factor in market economy and vote bank politics. Regional parties and regional editions play a bigger role than the national ones. This looks attractive in the beginning as giving immediate dividends but in the long run, it affects the national life and dilutes the feeling of oneness, thinning the resistance of socio-cultural integration.

What Maharashtra is witnessing today was seen in Punjab in the early '50s in the form of the Punjabi Suba movement and gradually various parts of the nation experienced in making new states emerge like Haryana, Himachal Pradesh [Images], Chhattisgarh, Uttarakhand [Images], Jharkhand etc.

Maharashtra itself owes its birth to a turbulent movement which saw many lives sacrificed for a cause so passionately considered by the local inhabitants as a sacred mission of their life. Those who come to Maharashtra or go any other state forget or ignore the local realities of micro-identities.

Under the pressure of economic entrepreneurship such assertions may remain subsided, but any time a small mistake is made or a sentence is spoken innocently, with no malice intended, it can become handy to fissiparous tendencies always on the lookout for such opportunities. It becomes the bounden duty of the State and leaders of society to come forward in support of centrifugal identities and a national outlook immediately, thwarting and dismissing the petty and ghettoised voices.

But sadly these days the politics of vote bank thrives on these very tendencies of sub-national assertions. When a party can encourage and appropriate the illegal influx of Bangladeshi infiltrators to facilitate its ambitions to gain political power, then it will be futile to expect the same set of politicians, belonging to whichever class and colour, to oppose parochial vulgarities.

Mumbai should have witnessed all party leaders coming out in support of Amitabh and Jaya Bachchan and raising the tricolour over the ghettoes of micro assertions. But people know Raj Thackeray has been encouraged by the Congress to oppose and reduce the Shiv Sena, which of late had become more accommodative and national in its political assertions.

In the Bhagvad Gita there is a beautiful verse that says social leaders create a path that is followed by the common people. What kind of path are these so-called leaders creating for the common people to adopt? It is a path that doesn't strengthen the feelings of oneness and harmony.

I have never seen a leader of this variety to encourage a Marathi academy of arts and culture or providing stipend to Marathi sportsmen to excel in the Olympics [Images]. They always reach for the dustbins and create more noise and filth.

That's the main source of their sustenance.
I hope Raj will ask Queen to give election speech in Marathi.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Marathi Manhoos, because he doesnt have anything purposeful to do in life, like brats pulling aprt a butterfly's wings, decided to play a similar game with Bachchan senior - made a nasty remark that when Bachchan decided to contest elections he didnt do it in Mumbai but went to allahabad in UP!!

Marathi Manhoos was peeved that Bachchan didnt prostrate before the Manhoos to seek his patronage to win the elections. Reminds me of yet another nasty 'M' word. And so like any normal self-respecting wife who also is intelligent, feisty and refuses to be cowed down by antedeluvian chauvinists, Jaya Bachchan made the completely natural crack that she wants to speak in Hindi because she belonged to UP. In her place, I would have said something a lot more blunt and unsparing.

Marathi Manhoos declared Jaya had offended the pride of the Marathi Manhoos. Since MM made it a blanket phrase, I presume it includes Haji Masthan, Dawood Ibrahim, the two Chchotas, all Memons from tiger to pussycat.

Now Marathi Manhoos is not only generally jobless he is also willing to play moneybags' mercenary to make humiliating the First Family (not the CNN-IBN, 24 Hr First Family) his life's mission hoping that someday he will be able to rub their collective noses in the dirt. I can understand his angst - he is not breathtakingly tall, he doesnt have a breathtaking baritone, he doesnt have a wife with an identity of her own (his antedeluvian attitude will not permit such a perversion), he doesnt have a breathtaking son and a breathtaking daughter-in-law. he is also not a mind-blowing icon in Bollywood with a talent to match the iconhood. Now these are driving-him-crazy reasons to want to humiliate a family that stands united and tall. They dont have to split up their family to develop a self-identity.

Bachchan makes a gracious apology, jaya didnt and I salute her for not cowing down to the mafioso. Ouch, my tongue tripped pl believe me.  But Bachchan's apology for hurting his 'brother', I salute his self-control for not allowing his tongue to trip on the 'B' word,  has made the marathi Manhoos look like Rumplestiltzkin (perish the spelling), you all know what I mean.
Marathi Manhoos has his species in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka - the Red-blooded Green tamils of Dravidian land and Vattal Nagaraj in Bangalore. At the height of the Hogennakal row when there was real danger of scum on either side of the state borders setting both states aflame for red-blooded green tamil manhoos and kannada Manhoos, Rajnikant was made the sacrificial goat. kannada Manhoos declared that Rajnikant must speak for kannada Manhoos, else his films would be banned, posters burnt and theaters vandalised. Red-blooded Green tamils declared rajnikant must speak for Tamil Manhoos because he made all his idli, vada and sakkara pongal in dravidian paradise.

Bachchan or Rajnikant, it takes more than these Rumplestiltskins to diminish them. Maybe they should try walking on stilts to reach up.

My brilliance takes my breath away. RR<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One thing people don't remind these MNS'walas is that Hindi movies might be made in Mumbai, but its market is in other parts of the country. Look where Hindi movies are and where Marathi movies are.
One really good movie I saw recently was Mongol. I believe the accounts of Temujin's early life are fuzzy and unclear, but the movie makes a great effort to present his life in a realistic manner. Highly recommended.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Mahendra Kapoor dead </b>
Agencies | Mumbai
Noted playback singer Mahendra Kapoor, whose voice delighted music lovers across generations, died of a heart attack here here on Saturday. He was 74 and is survived by his wife, three daughters and a son.

He had been undergoing dialysis. The end came suddenly at 7.30 pm and he died in his sleep. The funeral will take place on Sunday.

Kapoor's notable songs include neele gagan ke tale, chalo ek baar, kisi pathar ki moorat se, lakhon hain yahan dilwale, mere desh ki dharti and Bharat ka rehne wala hoon.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Protest: Anti-Hindu Hollywood movie, 'Ramayan 3392 <b>A. D.</b>'
October 28, 2008<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Why can't christoterrorists make movies about their dud christo stories. I can't help it if their fables are so boring. But they should keep their thieving claws off our property.
Isn't it enough that they completely butchered the Iliad when they made Troy?
With any luck, they'll lose all their money even before this film gets made.
O my God

Both are Hindi movies (with english subtitles) that I found to be good.
No violence, songs etc..but comedy of the real life sort (except in OMG, where the temple diety that the main character woships actually comes out to help the guy). Both set in Mumbai.
Madras High Court stays screening of Ghajini
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Madras High Court on Tuesday stayed the release of the much-awaited Aamir Khan-starred Hindi film Ghajini, two days before it was to hit the screens worldwide after the producers of the Tamil film on which it is based filed objections.

Justice P.R. Shivakumar granted the stay after A. Chandrasekaran, the producer of the original Tamil film of the same name, filed a suit claiming that the producers of the Hindi remake had "fabricated documents to claim ownership over the remake rights".
I watched the movie 'Outsourced' (2007) Well, it is not an Indian movie but it is a romantic comedy set in India.

My family enjoyed this movie. I never knew about this movie, and I watched it with little expectations; in fact I was expecting shallow treatment of both American and Indian cultures. I burst out laughing in couple of scenes early in the movie.
Rahul Dholakia (Parzania) is back in srinagar to complete his film Lamha
Bollywood team back in Srinagar to shoot Lamha
The unit headed by director Rahul Dholakia <b>had to abruptly return on November 5 last year after a mob disrupted shooting</b> near Parimpora Sabzi Mandi on the outskirts of Srinagar.

The people, who were watching the shooting had objected to "Kashmiris being shown as weapon carriers'' in the film. Dholakia has denied the charges and said the film is "entirely pro-Kashmir'' and depict the aspirations of Kashmiris.

He had said Lamha is a love story woven with boundless agony Kashmiris are facing in the past 61 years. "Without the help of Kashmiri people I cannot do justice with my film.''

The glamorous<b> Bipasha will play Dukhtaran-e-Millat chairperson Asiya Andrabi</b> in Lamha, while Anupam Kher is playing the role of Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani.

There were protests when the director was shooting a sequence in which Kashmiri youths burn tyres and chant anti-India slogans.

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