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Indian Movies Thread V
<!--QuoteBegin-rraajjeevv+Jan 12 2009, 06:30 AM-->QUOTE(rraajjeevv @ Jan 12 2009, 06:30 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rahul Dholakia (Parzania) is back in srinagar to complete his film Lamha
Bollywood team back in Srinagar to shoot Lamha
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The people, who were watching the shooting had objected to "Kashmiris being shown as weapon carriers'' in the film. Dholakia has denied the charges and said the <b>film is "entirely pro-Kashmir'' and depict the aspirations of Kashmiris.</b>

He had said Lamha is a love story woven with boundless agony Kashmiris are facing in the past 61 years. "Without the help of Kashmiri people I cannot do justice with my film.''

The glamorous<b> Bipasha will play Dukhtaran-e-Millat chairperson Asiya Andrabi</b> in Lamha, while Anupam Kher is playing the role of Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani.
[...]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]92982[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Of course this 'Bipasha' would be happy to play an islamic terrorista: she's girlfriend to a christo, some James Abraham or something. Sorry, it's a *john* abraham. (Well, james/john - it all sounds the same...) Anyway, all pseculars are ultimately the same: christoislami.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Second Kumaoni film after 22 years creates euphoria</b>
Rajendra S Markuna | Haldwani
A full length 35 mm Kumaoni film — Abhiman Thul Ghare Chelik — is all set to hit the silver screen on January 15. This is the second Kumaoni film and comes 22 years after the path breaking film Megha which was screened in 1986. Due to the prolonged interval there is a keen sense of anticipation among audience about the film.

<b>Based on the theme of cultural degeneration and the westernisation of society, the film revolves around an urban family having roots in this region and shows how the family of a retired Army officer is reluctant to mingle with those with traditional values and avoids speaking in the local dialect</b>.

After its screening in Haldwani, the film will also be screened in other big cities including Bareilly, Tanakpur, Khatima, Delhi, Lucknow, Dehradun and other Hindi speaking parts of the country, said director Santosh Shah.

<b>"Through the film we have attempted to revive the dying Kumaoni culture, its ancient traditions, local dialects and other features of the region," </b>Shah further said, as Kumaon is a major tourist hub in the country we have also highlighted all important tourist locations including Ranikhet, Kausani, Bageshwar, Punyagiri, and of course Nainital in our film.

Produced at a cost of Rs 50 lakh under the banner of Ridhi Sidhi films(India), the film has actors featuring Naveen Joshi and Preeti Dhyani in the lead. Hindi film actor Nirmal Pandey has a guest appearance. The other actors include Idris Malik, Prema Shah, Rajendra Vora, Ghanshyam Bhatt and Deepa Chand.

The producer of the film is Heera Singh Bhakunia, the music director and lyricist of the film is Rajam Raj Bajeli and story and dialogue writer is Vijay Tiwari, said the director.

"Lack of basic infrastructure and theatres here are the main reason why Kumaoni film industry has not grown over the years in comparison to Garhwali films," said producer Bhakuni adding that we urge the Government to create basic infrastructure and take necessary steps to promote Kumaoni culture.

He also drew attention to the fact that with the help of state of the art technology we can produce a number of films at a nominal cost. With the help of digital theatres, shortage of theatres can also be done away with, but all we need is the Government's support, Bhakuni further added. Expressing concern over cultural degradation , migration of youth from the area, he said even people belonging to this region hesitate to speak in their local dialect. Surprisingly those who speak in their language and adopt their cultural identity, others look down on them he lamented adding so we have tried to expose the duplicity in our film, he added.
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Sepoy era begins

Slumdog Millionaire: the first film of the Obama era
Husky: <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bipasha will play Dukhtaran-e-Millat chairperson Asiya Andrabi<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very interesting character this Andbrabi...
From J & K Archives
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The next year, Andrabi organised protests against those Kashmiri women who did not adhere to the burqa system. The DeM issued warnings to women in Srinagar in May 1993 not to venture outdoors without a veil<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Not only did she help the LeJ enforce the "dress code" but went a step further, asking Kashmiri women to quit their jobs and stay at home as "women were supposed to look after the kitchen while men were supposed to work".<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What are the chances of seeing Teesta, Brinda etc in burqa at the premier opening of this movie.

Some in the US don't like bad movies either:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>US Media bashes 'Chandni Chowk'!</b>

American mainstream media has given a lukewarm reception to 'Chandni Chowk to China', the largest-ever release of a Bollywood movie in North America, calling it "a genetic experiment" and a "genre-mashup overkill".

"A veggie-slicing galoot from Delhi goes to China to realise his destiny as a martial arts master - and just from the synopsis, I'm on board with 'Chandni Chowk to China'," says Time magazine reviewer Richard Corliss.

But "the results of this genetic experiment are mixed. 'Chandni Chowk' is probably a decent sampler for Americans who've never seen a full-out Bollywood musical since it goes heavy on the action scenes and light on the big dance numbers", he says.

<b>The film "has the feel of one of many Indian glosses on American films, not of something fresh and foreign.</b> For a really thrilling amalgam of Bollywood and Hong Kong, I'm still waiting", says Corliss.

The New York Times says: "Genre mixing is mother's milk to Hindi films, so it's no surprise that 'Chandni Chowk to China' can so seamlessly add Kung Fu to the usual blend of comedy, dance and melodrama."

'Chandni Chowk to China', the first Bollywood movie to be financed and distributed by Warner Brothers, "starts too frantically but settles down to become an enjoyable, if slight Saturday-matinee, picture", says reviewer Rachel Saltz.

To Washington Times, 'Chandni Chowk' seems, "in some ways, like a dish at one of those Indian restaurants - its spiciness has been toned down for the American market".

<b>"Still, it's unlike anything Hollywood puts out. The Bollywood film is unapologetically sentimental and silly, and this melodrama is no exception," it says.</b>

Robert Abele of the Los Angeles Times says in 'Chandni Chowk to China', "Kung fu pounds it out with Bollywood and round after round of gags, chaos and music".<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sad. India could be making really amazing films - something many another country is doing, but which India is prevented from doing since the artistically-inept have taken over.
What MF Hussein is to drawing (yeah, what IS that ink blot he keeps perpetrating onto paper anyway?), christoislamania + its conditioning is to Indian cinema. Both these publicly-visible areas have become huddling groups for the talentless, where all are uniformly dressed in the emperor's new clothes and then complimenting each other on their taste and creativity <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

And since I'm already complaining -
I've seen movie trailer ads on Zee or some other Indian channel in my friends house. And my immediate question is: why is no one doing something about the bland (and at times downright scary) looking characters who are positioned as focal points *in front* of the lens of Indian movies. Is that even <i>legal</i>?
With a few notable exceptions, why is Indian cinema unable to give me any of the lovely people I see when I wander about TN (and their counterparts in the rest of India)? So many people I've seen there day-to-day inspire me into drawing them, but modern Indian cinema... Confusedhakes head:
Moreover, since Indian twattywood cinema requires no acting talent as it is, I'm sure *anyone* will do then - and that most of the regular citizens I've clapped my eyes on can in fact do far better.
But then, the storylines ought to be similarly improved to be deserving of them, I suppose...
Americans consider China to be their exclusive colony and racial fantasy, euphemised as an "intellectual" engagement. They have a "special" relationship with Chinese. there are probably few things happening here:

1. Chandni Chowk does not have any Orientalist themes, subtly degrading Chinese (eg there are no scenes of chinese children rummaging through garbage)
2. Gora middleman has been cut out of the discourse between the two Asian sisters.
3. Indians are daring to make their own discourse about *their* region, without consulting massa (maximum threat perception)
Some link somewhere was about "things you did not know about India". Most of it is what I would put up myself, except for this one thing:

"Indians are the smartest people I know after the Chinese.
--Bill Gates"

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I just watched Slumdog Millionaire, except for the intial couple of scenes the rest of the movie is ok personnally, but with a good mix of bollywood mashup, not spectacular though, something like bend it like beckam.

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Q. Explain our obsession with making it at the Oscars even when we are being honoured by film festivals around the globe.

A. It’s not that we haven’t made films worthy of the Oscars. If you want to win the trophy, you need to understand the American system. The members of the Academy of Motion Pictures and Sciences have to watch hundreds of films, which is humanly impossible to register. So to make sure you get noticed, you have to ensure that members watch your film carefully, that they get to hear a buzz around it. In other words, you have to lobby and hard sell. The only time we got close to it was when Aamir and Ashutosh Gowarikar understood it and went to Los Angeles to lobby as hard as they could. Not only do you have to force the members to watch your film, you have to constantly bring your film into their consciousness, which means you must have a publicist. And half the battle is won. A huge amount of money is to be spent on all of this. Now for Indian films, whose major markets are the home and diaspora, are the Oscars worthy of investment? No. Because a film will be a hit with or without the Oscars. For an American or European film, an Oscar means a lot because the award-winning film starts doing 30 to 50 per cent additional business. This reality is often not understood.

Lobbying makes sense for a Deepa Mehta, Mira Nair and M Night Shyamalan, because they are known names there, they operate there. The day Oscars mean more business for us, distributors will definitely invest in promotion; maybe even put a permanent publicist in Hollywood.

Ismail Merchant, before he became a powerful producer with James Ivory, understood this rather early. He would bribe hotel bell boys and send a note through them to Academy members, requesting them to watch his film. He did so many things entirely on his own. Regional films — and you have some brilliant works in Bengali, Marathi, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada — can’t even be promoted. Who will fund their effort? Besides, 90 per cent of members won’t even understand the language or register it in their minds.

Indian Movie industry is suffering from slave mentality, till Gora Saheb gives them thumps up , they are on top of other brownies.
I was changing channels and saw Anil Kapoor behaving like a idiot in front of camera during interview.
This year Oscar was labelled as depressing Oscar with worst rating.
Yes and
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Feb 26 2009, 12:11 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Feb 26 2009, 12:11 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Indian Movie industry is suffering from[right][snapback]94922[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->being taken over by people who can't make movies, can't tell stories and have no stories to tell.

So christoterrorists from Britain are using the opportunity to come in uninvited, stuff stories into our mouths and make it look as if <i>we</i>'re the ones narrating these anti-Hindu christofables: as if these are stories from our experience, as told by real Indoos. Then the Oscars come along and the christoterrorists from AmeriKKKa give awards to the sepoys to once again make it look like as if we're the ones narrating these anti-Hindu christofables.

It's all an elaborate christian hoax. And of course it makes use of Indian christoislamism (catholic Frieda Pinto, faithful Rasool and A R Rehman, etcetera) and Indian psecularism (christoconditioned characters like A-nill Kaput and that Devv, Devv something). The latter don't even know how much they have been used. Hope the pay was worth it.

All they needed was for Rasool to say one 'Hindu' thing. Fingers crossed he may even have meant it (what muslim would otherwise have brought up Shivarathri and Om; if it had been a christian who'd said it one could be sure it was scripted, but I don't think/am not sure muslims are entirely in on the plot), but the effect on Hindus is curious. (As long as they keep to congratulating Resul and don't transfer his statement into misplaced approval of the SlumMovie itself.)

One of the numerous reasons for why they gave so many oscars to this movie including to Indians is to appease Indians and make them approve of the film. The film may be anti-Hindu and anti-Indian, but Indians' vanity is stronger than anything: a couple of Indians got some golden statuettes, and so everyone is happy now. (That is, everyone's diverted.) It's also like dogtraining: accept SlumMovie and what it's really saying and you'll be rewarded with some biscuits.
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born muslim,speaks about omkar at the function.claims it asa a shivrathri gift to kerala people.
<b>tells that lord shiva is his favourate daity..</b>
born hindu converted to islam.
spekas only about mother and god.no word about r.k shekhar,through whose blood he got his music culture..
feel the difference..
example for <b>real indian muslim</b> and ordinary muslim...<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Well, if Rasool's Ishtadevam is Lord Shiva - which would be very good news - then he's not a real muslim <i>of any kind</i> (Indian or other). There seems to be lingering confusion among Hindus as to what islam entails.
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Feb 26 2009, 07:13 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Feb 26 2009, 07:13 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, if Rasool's Ishtadevam is Lord Shiva - which would be very good news - then he's not a real muslim <i>of any kind</i> (Indian or other). There seems to be lingering confusion among Hindus as to what islam entails.

I think we have to nurture this confusion among muslims (but not among Hindus). We should not be putting muslims on the defensive, not because I have some hidden love for islam, but because you do not want to make them face a choice between hinduism and islam: you know what they will choose (even if a few brave ones choose hinduism) Keep the "I am muslim but I love Shiva etc" thing going. One day we could see a large number of such muslims. Much better than hard core muslims. Forcing a choice upon hinduism-loving muslims will only backfire.

Hindus, on the other hand, need to be told how muslim invaders followed the footsteps of their mohd and killed "kaafirs", and how todays muslims follow the footsteps of mohd and babur/awrang/akbar...

Don't worry, never had any intention of forcing a choice on any poor person born into islam and who finds a Hindu (or other) God to be his Ishtadevam. I was only noting that Hindus don't know what a "real muslim" is when they try to make a comparison like the above person did between Resul and Rehman and then by some incomprehensible calculation decide that Resul and not Rahman is the authentic representative of islam. Many Hindus keep having incredible expectations of muslims when it really isn't the latter's fault that there aren't more like Resul/Rasool. The latter are a rarity, an aberration in the islamic faith, precisely because the ideology doesn't even allow for them. Hindus can look in vain for greater numbers like him. There are some in India, certainly. But it's their relative invisibility that has allowed them to remain this way so far. With television, internet, global and pan-Indian jihadism, and the christian media in India spurring the jihad on by manufacturing islamic grievances (and extreme ones at that, like with the SlumMovie), you can bet there will be fewer still in future.
<!--emo&:ind--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/india.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='india.gif' /><!--endemo--> Delhi 6 tried to use the metaphor of Babri Masjid demolition of 1992 in the year 2009 when the issue has become totally irrelevant. The chief architect of the demolition, Kalyan Singh, is today sitting pretty in Samajwadi Party with Mulayam Singh Yadav. After having found support of just the Shiv Sena in 1996, Atal Bihari Vajpayee led a 23-party coalition at the Centre for six years.

The film had to fail. It only titillated the imagination of the Left-of-the-Centre film critics, who still dominate the columns of the newspapers, and not win popular approval. Bollywood for long has been credited with correctly mirroring the Indian society. So in the failure of Delhi 6 there is a lesson for political parties to prepare their poll agenda.

<!--QuoteBegin-"RajeshA"+-->QUOTE("RajeshA")<!--QuoteEBegin-->Film piracy funding terror: US thinktank <i>by S Balakrishnan</i>: Times of India

<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->MUMBAI: The leading US thinktank, Rand Corporation, has confirmed what Indian intelligence agencies have been maintaining all along— Dawood Ibrahim has graduated to terrorism and is <b>siphoning off millions of dollars earned from film
piracy</b>, drug-running and other crimes to finance his operations.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Identifying <b>Al-Mansoor</b> and Sadaf brands belonging to Dawood, the report says he has acquired extraordinary market power in the distribution of pirated films throughout the region. The report says the D-Company has got control of <b>Sadaf Trading Company based in Karachi</b>, and thus allowing it to manage distribution network in Pakistan and also acquiring the infrastructure to manufacture pirate VHS tapes and VCDs for sale. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Abstract of Original Rand Corporation Report (purchaseable)
Film Piracy, Organized Crime, and Terrorism
<i>By: Gregory F. Treverton, Carl Matthies, Karla J. Cunningham, Jeremiah Goulka, Greg Ridgeway, Anny Wong</i>

Indian Government should put a lot more stress on coming down on these piraters. Now Bollywood has instead of becoming an engine of growth for the Indian Economy become a source of financing for terrorism and organized crime, and that too for every film produced in Bollywood.

I am not sure how far one can confront this problem in Pakistan itself, but there is no reason, why pirated Bollywood films should be available in other markets like USA, UK, Europe, UAE or elsewhere. India should pressure the local authorities to put an end to this piracy. USA can help in this endeavor, as it already has the clout and a process in these countries. Money made from this piracy also supports Al Qaida's activities.

Secondly, in every copyright message, the producers should include, that buying pirate copies may be supporting terrorism.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bodhi I remember u asked about the movie Mongol, u can watch the subtitled Mongol version here:

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<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Aug 12 2009, 12:46 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Aug 12 2009, 12:46 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bodhi I remember u asked about the movie Mongol, u can watch the subtitled Mongol version here:


Thanks Bharatvarsh. here it has not been even released.

It is Russian guy's film -- story-line somewhat unfaithful to the standard histories. But some of the recreations are pretty realistic.

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