04-13-2007, 06:22 PM
Mudy:
It is precisely because there is so much of tremendous value in "Hindu Science" that there should be much less tolerance for the claptrap.
What I mean is that there are way too many ppl, far too lazy to do any disciplined searching and thinking, spouting nonsense, and then claiming that if the Ashoka Pillar and the Vedic civilization existed, then what they are claiming is also true.
The result of this sort of undisciplined, lazy "science" being spouted, is that fellows like St. Farmer and Herr Witzel are able to pass themselves off as people who are doing "objective scientific research" when they spout THEIR propaganda.
One stupid statement repeated unthinkingly in the wrong place, costs us 10,000 hours of fighting on the internet. Experience from the recent California jollies.
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For the rest, let me p1ss off anyone whom I have not in the past couple of months, and ask shiv why what he is posting is new - I mean at IF.
While BRF was pretty "out there" many years ago (just realized that 1999 was seven years ago!) I would submit that a series of dismal <i>[/B]"this is so bcoz we mighty ADMINS decided so"[B]</i> declarations and utterly irrational thread-locks and thread-deletions has destroyed most of the enterprising and enthusiastic initiatives there since about 2001. In the process, that great civilization has essentially been destroyed, without bringing back anyone who was supposedly driven off by the less-than-pure discussions there.
I remember one time when one Admin (who shall remain unnamed because most here would know exactly who I am talking about) sent me an email declaring that I should "explain myself" since the sense that I was posting did not sync with his superstitions. One of the more entertaining "explaining" I have ever done.
Many things are discussed far better on IF, and I have my own views on the "Oooo! Go discuss that at some lesser forum like IF!" hoity-toitiness of some of the BRF folks.
That said, I am delighted to see you here.
It is precisely because there is so much of tremendous value in "Hindu Science" that there should be much less tolerance for the claptrap.
What I mean is that there are way too many ppl, far too lazy to do any disciplined searching and thinking, spouting nonsense, and then claiming that if the Ashoka Pillar and the Vedic civilization existed, then what they are claiming is also true.
The result of this sort of undisciplined, lazy "science" being spouted, is that fellows like St. Farmer and Herr Witzel are able to pass themselves off as people who are doing "objective scientific research" when they spout THEIR propaganda.
One stupid statement repeated unthinkingly in the wrong place, costs us 10,000 hours of fighting on the internet. Experience from the recent California jollies.
*************************
For the rest, let me p1ss off anyone whom I have not in the past couple of months, and ask shiv why what he is posting is new - I mean at IF.
While BRF was pretty "out there" many years ago (just realized that 1999 was seven years ago!) I would submit that a series of dismal <i>[/B]"this is so bcoz we mighty ADMINS decided so"[B]</i> declarations and utterly irrational thread-locks and thread-deletions has destroyed most of the enterprising and enthusiastic initiatives there since about 2001. In the process, that great civilization has essentially been destroyed, without bringing back anyone who was supposedly driven off by the less-than-pure discussions there.
I remember one time when one Admin (who shall remain unnamed because most here would know exactly who I am talking about) sent me an email declaring that I should "explain myself" since the sense that I was posting did not sync with his superstitions. One of the more entertaining "explaining" I have ever done.
Many things are discussed far better on IF, and I have my own views on the "Oooo! Go discuss that at some lesser forum like IF!" hoity-toitiness of some of the BRF folks.
That said, I am delighted to see you here.