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1. independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/inside-isis-the-first-western-journalist-ever-given-access-to-the-islamic-state-has-just-returned--and-this-is-what-he-discovered-9938438.html

Inside Isis: The first Western journalist ever to be given access to the 'Islamic State' has just returned – and this is what he discovered



Jürgen Todenhöfer, 74, spent 10 days in Isis-controlled territory. He says the reality on the ground is different from what anyone in the West realises



Adam Withnall

Adam Withnall writes for http :// independent.co.uk



Sunday 21 December 2014





The first Western journalist in the world to be allowed extensive access to Isis territories in Syria and Iraq has returned from the region with a warning: the group is “much stronger and much more dangerous” than anyone in the West realises.



Jürgen Todenhöfer, 74, is a renowned German journalist and publicist who travelled through Turkey to Mosul, the largest city occupied by Isis, after months of negotiations with the group’s leaders.



He plans to publish a summary of his “10 days in the Islamic State” on Monday, but in interviews with German-language media outlets has revealed his first impressions of what life is like under Isis.



Speaking to the website Der tz, Todenhöfer revealed that he actually stayed in the same hotel in Benghazi as James Foley, the US journalist who was beheaded on camera by Isis in August.



“Of course, I’ve seen the terrible, brutal video and it was one of my main concerns during the negotiations as to how I can avoid [the same fate],” he said.



Timeline: The emergence of Isis



Once within Isis territory, Todenhöfer said his strongest impression was “that Isis is much stronger than we think here”. He said it now has “dimensions larger than the UK”, and is supported by “an almost ecstatic enthusiasm that I have never encountered in any other warzone”.



(Note, Todenhoefer is specifically not describing any normal warlike sentiment seen in brave populations who have standing martial communities. No. He is describing islamaniacs' peculiar willingness - shared by christians, as also seen during christians crusades and in the terror acts of christians in India's NE - for total war, especially their christo-islamic eagerness to commit butchery and other crimes against humanity. Note that Todenhoefer's description is exactly the same state of mind islamaniacs were in when they first started raiding/convert-or-killing from their locus in Arabia. And the same islamic bloodlust was there in the massive genocides perpetrated all the way to Iran not to mention into greater India. Islam killed at least 90 million Hindus as per the estimates of Faithfreedom's Ali Sina from the records *he* has seen summarised. Islam was always ready to torture-then-massacre 500 millions or even the whole world.

And the same enthusiasm for genocide was reported to exist in christians by the Greco-Romans who documented christians' crazed murders of heathens, and destruction of their temples, and in the christian Roman court cases against heathens who privately continued practising heathenism. And as documented at ysee.gr's timeline, christians of Rome did institute the first concentration camps: where they gathered their heathen victims for genocide. The same christian thirst to commit genocide was seen in how readily christians massacred heathen native Americans, burnt them alive and "dashed out children's brains" after baptising the children. Nothing has ever changed. Just this week, the christian NDFB terrorists have killed 62 Vanavasis=Hindoos in Assam.)



“Each day, hundreds of willing fighters arrive from all over the world,” he told tz. “For me it is incomprehensible.”



Todenhöfer claims to have been able to move among Isis fighters, observing their living conditions and equipment. On his Facebook page, he has posted images which he said show German Heckler & Koch MG3 machine guns in the hands of Isis. “Someday this German MG could be directed to us,” he said.



@EjmAlrai Jürgen Todenhöfer arrived today turkey. Back from 10d in IS. pic.twitter.com/2tp3s6H79z



— Tommy Mommy (@watchpigs) December 16, 2014

Isis’s fighters themselves sleep, he said, in barracks formed from “the shells of bombed-out houses”. They number around 5,000 in Mosul, and are spread so widely that were the US to bomb them all “they would have to reduce the whole of Mosul to ruins”, he said.



(That can be arranged. Well, it should be arranged. Be honest, do these terrorists deserve death for their genocide amd gangraping? If this were the Nuremberg trials, it would be "off with their heads" already. So why not evacuate the Yezidis, then "reduce the whole of Mosul to ruins". Pity about any ancient artefacts, but can't be helped. It's called amputation.)



Todenhöfer says that this ultimately means Isis cannot be beaten by Western intervention or air strikes – despite US claims last week that they have proven effective. “With every bomb that is dropped and hits a civilian, the number of terrorists increases,” he said.



(Nonsense. Islam is 1 billion on the planet that definitely poses an existential threat to the remaining 6 billion. Christowest refused to try to de-program islamaniacs - because to do so would be to admit that christianism is as much a contender for de-programming as islam - and instead always apologised for islam and blamed anything and everything else, so now the west is left with the ugly prospect of 9 stitches instead of just a timely one. Or to do yet more of nothing.



Either develop a quick and effective de-programming scheme - and know that all such will work on christianism too [it's the same meme, so the same anti-viral agents/de-programming will work on both] - or wait for islam to come knocking closer to home. It certainly has every intention to. After all, it;s playing the great and bloody game of the monotheists which is based on numbers+determination. Islam > christianism on the latter count, which will also make islam > christianism on the former count in the long run. E.g. numbers of christian Syrians - like that of Lebanese - was once greater than that of muslims there. As for determination, islam is #1 in the missionary pecking order, christianism #2: christianism will *always* lose against islam, despite both being willing to resort to total war. The rabies-infested christians of Syria and Egypt who brutally cannibalised the GrecoRomans got cannibalised by islamania eventually. Because -eventually- islam will always beat christianism.



If Hindus had been given a free hand, they'd have reverted subcontinental islamaniacs by now. But no, Indian christianism is subcontinental islam's #1 friend and #1 facilitator of jihad and worked hard to tie up Hindus' natural response to the christoislamaniac/missionary menace. But what goes around comes around, eventually every single Indian christist is going to end up on islam's menu, no less than Hindoos are on the menu now.

But this is the first era in which monotheisms have faced non-religious govts [some European govts aren't religious]. Maybe they will act decisively and with finality against islam.)



Speaking in a TV interview with RTL’s Nachtjournal programme two days after his return to Germany last week, Todenhöfer said Isis has worked hard to establish itself as a functioning state. He said it has “social welfare”, a “school system”, and that he was even surprised to see it has plans to provide education to girls.



#Journalist #Todenhöfer after 10 days visit: #IS has enormous popularity & will conquer the whole world if it can pic.twitter.com/3LNz3vo7mq



— AbdulElah Shyea (@AbdulEla) December 21, 2014

Most concerning of all, he said, was Isis fighters’ belief that “all religions who agree with democracy have to die”.



He said the view that kept being repeated was that Isis want to “conquer the world” and all who do not believe in the group’s interpretation of the Koran will be killed. The only other religions to be spared, Todenhöfer said, were the “people of the book” – Jews and Christians.



(No wonder Indian christians - Suzanna Roy to every single christist commenter in Indian ELM - are the greatest facilitators of islam in the Indian subcontinent. Christianism has constantly colluded with islamania to kill India's heathens, since otherwise christianism would have to bloody its hands killing Hindus itself, as it has had to do in India's NE.)



“This is the largest religious cleansing strategy that has ever been planned in human history”, he told RTL.





Another photo of Jurgen Todenhöfer, the journalist from #Germany who just got back from 10 day trip to #IS in #Syria. pic.twitter.com/PSWQJh4LxS



— Charlie Winter (@charliewinter) December 19, 2014

Isis-affiliated social media accounts have already started responding to Todenhöfer's reports, hailing his comments about the group's territories being made into functioning societies.



The tweet below quotes “German journalist Jürgen” as saying: “The Caliphate state is working to create life in the style of the Rightly Guided Caliphs who lived after the Prophet (PBUH) and it can move mountains.”



الصحفي الألماني يورغن: دولة #الخلافة تحاول تشكيل الحياة بنمط الخلفاء الذين عاشوا بعد النبي محمدﷺويمكنهم تحريك الجبال pic.twitter.com/LNVllDMipz



— إبن الجزيرة (@3in100) December 21, 2014

Charlie Winter, a researcher for the anti-extremism thinktank Quilliam, said such comments about Isis being "a group that is formidable militarily and politically" were quoted by pro-Isis accounts because it is "a bitter pill for policymakers to swallow".



"That said, Todenhöfer's comments on the massacre of the Yazidis and displacement of hundreds of thousands in Mosul have been routinely ignored by Isis supporters," Mr Winter said. "The facts are being cherry-picked to give a very narrow view of the situation that Todenhöfer was met with in Syria and Iraq."



Todenhöfer plans to use his first-hand experience of Isis in a book he is writing about the group. He says on Facebook that he has always “spoken to both sides” in his 50 years reporting from war zones, including interviews with Syria's President Bashar al-Assad and al-Qaeda, with Afghanistan’s President Hamid Karzai and with leaders of the Taliban.



In his view, Isis will soon come to the West to negotiate a level of co-existence. “The only ones who could stop this now are the moderate Iraqi Sunnis,” he said, adding: “If you want to defeat an opponent, you must know him.”



(There is no such thing as a moderate christoislam. There is only the apostate (=non-adherent), the backslider, the sleeper and the faithful. Those indulging in taqiyyah like India's cryptochristians and Indian muslims that privately feel solidarity with IS are not sleepers. They are part of the faithful and they quickly turn into the Christian State/Islamic State when the opportunity arises, as it has done in Iraq/Syria.)

Don't know what modern journalists imagined Khalifate (Khilafat, whatever) meant.

The international community is experiencing (feigning?) shock and surprise, which clearly indicates that western education on history - and their christo-communist mis-education project in India with its history re-writing - sucks. This is why Romila Thapars and other commies and apologists for christoislam shouldn't be allowed to teach people how to tie their shoes let alone history. But here's to IS-types getting the Thapars, Mira Nairs, and cryptochristists like the Suzanne Roys, the Rajdeep Sardesais, Sagarika Ghoses, Prannoy Roys, opus-dei agents and their families. But surely they won't mind: after all, they have been the #1 apologists for christoislamania. And I do note that Mira Kamdar didn't go on with her pro-islamaniac vituperative Hindu-baiting once her relative got blown up by islamania. Nothing like IS to teach these people in person why their lying to silence else whitewash the christoislamic genocide of Hindus in India can't go unpaid. They should get paid in full. And with interest. If/when India gets inundated with the jihad, not *one* of these people - let alone their families - will be free of islamania. Every last psecular/cryptochristo Indian will be put to the scimitar by their brothers in monotheism, the islamaniacs, eventually.

Hindoos will be too, but I'm just saying that it is surely good to know that the pseculars/(crypto)christists' end will be no less brutal (and endlessly deserved in their case). Mwahahahahah. <- Since Hindus won't be physically around to have their last laugh heard, may as well chuckle before-hand.





2. au.ibtimes.com/articles/576934/20141223/isis-conquer-europe-iraq-mosul-turkey-germany.htm

ISIS Says It Will Conquer Europe Soon, Undertake Religious Cleansing And Kill Ruthlessly



ISIS Says It Will Conquer Europe Soon, Undertake Religious Cleansing And Kill RuthlesslyArticleRate this Story

By Kalyan Kumar | December 23, 2014 3:56 PM EST



The radical terror group ISIS has claimed that it is only a matter of time before its fighters conquer Europe. The claim was made by the spokesman of the outfit to veteran journalist Juergen Todenhoefer, who undertook a risky visit to the the ISIS controlled areas in Mosul of Northern Iraq.





[photo caption:]

A Kurdish protester sits behind a sign reading " STOP ISIS terror" in front of the United Nations headquarters in Vienna October 9, 2014. A group of Kurdish people living in Austria are on hunger strike since Monday in solidarity for Syrian Kurds who are fighting to defend the Syrian-Turkey border town of Kobane from Islamic State militants.



"We will conquer Europe one day. It is not a question of we will conquer Europe, just a matter of when that will happen. But it is certain. ... For us, there is no such thing as borders. There are only front lines," the spokesman identified as a German ISIS fighter told the German journalist.



Religious Cleansing



Defending mass enslavement and beheadings, the ISIS spokesman said it is planning to carry out "the largest religious cleansing campaign" in history and will not hesitate to kill hundreds of millions of people, if required, reported the Christian Post.



"Our expansion will be rapid and perpetual. The Europeans need to know that when we come, it will not be in a nice way. It will be with our weapons. Those who do not convert to Islam or pay the Islamic tax will be killed," the spokesman said. Todenhoefer visited the Iraqi city of Mosul, which had a large Christian population before it was taken over by ISIS in June and clamped Islamic laws on the land, forcing people to convert to Islam or face death.



On Shiite Muslims not ready to share the same beliefs as ISIS, the spokesman said anyone refusing to convert will be killed. "150 million, 200 million or 500 million, it does not matter to us, we will kill them all." The ISIS has already captured a number of cities across Iraq and Syria and continues to shock people with its horrendous acts like beheading of prisoners on camera and enslaving of religious minorities and women, including Christians.



The terror group claims it is on a divine mission to establish an Islamic caliphate across the Middle East region and eventually take over the world. The German journalist in his comments noted that Islamic State is a lot more dangerous than it has been perceived by Western leaders, reported Independent.



Brave Journalist



Todenhöfer, 74, is the first Western journalist in the world to be allowed access to ISIS territories in Syria and Iraq. Todenhöfer took the challlenge of travelling through Turkey to ISIS held Mosul, after holding months of negotiations with the group's leaders.

Brilliant comment - this is exactly correct:

AG • 10 hours agoISIS fighters, Bako Haram, Al Quieda, Taliban etc read only Quran and Hadiths. They don't view TV or read magazines. All their actions exactly match Quranic Verses. In short they are pure Islamists.

(That's correct. These pure muslims don't read islamic apologetics by Indian and alien pseculars. Unlike them, they read the koran.)



valakos >WhiteRabbit • 8 hours ago

leftists are simply being used by islamists to further their goals, just as islamists used leftists in iran, then subsequently executed them once islamists were in power - leftists in europe are too stupid to see the same pattern



(As happened with communist left in Bangladesh. Etc. Good riddance to the left.)

India has to take some serious steps. The first is, any islamaniac who so much as speaks apologetically on behalf of IS, let alone supports it, should be terminated by the armed forces on the spot with - as the AmriKKKans say - "extreme prejudice".



Any christoislami psecular apologetics for IS or islamania in general should be sent of to prison to do time for being collaborators and apologists for nazism I mean christoislam (same level of criminality, so may as well call it nazism).



Europe swings Right to Left to Right with the certainty of a pendulum. It is slowly becoming time again for the European Pendulum to shoot past the midpoint to the extreme. If Europe doesn't want to go all the way Right - wasn't good for the world last time they did it - everyone in the free world HAS TO PROSCRIBE islam (which is the root cause behind Islamic State) and proscribe christianism (Christian State, as seen in India). *Both* christianism and islam have to be banned together. No banning one without the other.



Christianism=islam. The only difference is seen above: islamania is better, because it is at least honest in that it says outright to your face that it will resort to genocide - even 500 million people - if any will not convert to islamania. Christianism does all the very same things, but nowadays it merely pretends it will not resort to genocide*, even though that is exactly what it does when given half the chance (like in NE India, like in Uganda and other parts of Africa, like with the until-recently "Unreached" peoples of SE Asia and S/C America).



* Christianism stops at declaring that it will raise the cross over Tirumala hills and all of India, but all know that "Nagaland/Tripura-for-christ" was only achieved by genocide and ethnic cleansing of the native heathens.



But make no mistake, christianism=islam.

- Both have to be proscribed and eliminated, like nazism (which itself is a spin-off of christianism).

- And both have to be proscribed and eliminated.





ISIS announced:

anyone refusing to convert will be killed. "150 million, 200 million or 500 million, it does not matter to us, we will kill them all.

Again: gives the lie to the faces of the Indian psecular apologists for islam who claim that islam did not destroy Hindu temples or forcibly convert-or-genocide Hindus; and who pretend that the concocted "caste" excuse is what made people convert to (christo)islamania. (The muslims who claim that people voluntarily converted to islamania are just indulging in taqiyyah: they know theirs is an idiot religion. It's just that adherents of islam like to rape and rape and gangrape people, which is why they want to adhere to islam: it gives them a free pass to do so.

* As seen in Nov when the Sudanese soldiers (Sudan is practically exclusively christoislamaniac) raped 200 of their [islamic] sisters in monotheism for 8 hours:



au.ibtimes.com/articles/572021/20141107/sudan-mass-rape.htm

Soldiers Mass Rape 200 Women And Children In 8-Hour Operation







The news was:



- independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/inside-isis-the-first-western-journalist-ever-given-access-to-the-islamic-state-has-just-returned--and-this-is-what-he-discovered-9938438.html

Inside Isis: The first Western journalist ever to be given access to the 'Islamic State' has just returned – and this is what he discovered



- au.ibtimes.com/articles/576934/20141223/isis-conquer-europe-iraq-mosul-turkey-germany.htm

ISIS Says It Will Conquer Europe Soon, Undertake Religious Cleansing And Kill Ruthlessly



Christoislam (and communism) should be Banned x infinity - like nazism. And the babble and koran should be banned like mein kampf.

These are all genocidal ideologies - utterly unnatural (i.e. missionary). So why are they treated differently from nazism? Why is nazism the only genocidal ideology that got proscribed? Makes no sense. They're all lethal.



Only agnosticism/atheism and native ancestral heathenisms should be allowed in the world. All missionary ideologies should be proscribed.

A sane humanity would have enacted this. They may one day. In any case, they will look back on the stupidity of the 20th and 21st centuries in *still* not banning christoislamania - and as a *direct* consequence of that inaction is the genocide of various peoples who got convert-or-killed throughout these modern, allegedly enlightened, centuries.