<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->daycare centers in Andhra Pradesh admonish the parents and ask them to stop teaching Telugu at home, if they want their children to succeed in kindergarten! If you spoke Telugu, you have to wash your mouth with soap! <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Like the poor Irish and Welsh. The English had tried to wipe out the Celtic languages to such an extent that even Irish and Welsh teachers in their own regions were enforcing English and attacking little children if in excitement they spoke to each other in their own tongues. My Welsh classmate told me how she and others were beaten for it, made to forget their own language. But now their languages are being brought back from the brink of extinction and their local schools are teaching them - to what extent they can ever be completely successful in reinstating and reviving their languages, I don't know. But they have some success at least.
Indians ought to learn from others' mistakes.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Now Tenglish people just have to get rid of their script and adopt roman script. Thanks to Internet, it is already happening!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->When I was in India last (around mid 2006), I saw the funniest thing. A number of TV adverts where Tamil characters were written in Arabic or Persian style. Similarly, some islami stores also had boards and signs with what took me a while to recognise as Tamil. Strange that the DMK has not pounced on them for the very real act of subverting the Tamil script. But then, the DMK will be the first to abandon Tamil if enough people in the state had converted to christoterrorism. Tamil is just a ruse they hide behind. Whatever cause can get and keep them in power is what they'll represent. It may well be English tomorrow.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In fact, I know of one guy(Telugu) already in the US, whose parents told every prospective bride that he would eventually settle in India in the next five years. He was serially rejected by every girl he saw. This happened in 2000.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I don't think there's a hard and fast rule of what Indians want.
In my family, most of the marriageable girls <i>who had grown up in India</i> insisted on finding spouses who intended to either (1) stay in India; (2) return to India (sooner the better). One cousin married the first prospective who said he'd never move to the US. She had refused all the others, precisely for saying that if the opportunity ever arose they might consider moving there.
So there's all sorts in India.
Then again, one can't blame people for wanting to leave when the terrorist government is in power.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is strange that those English speaking Indians should oppose the entry of more Indians into benefits of a wider education and currently the ONLY route for an Indian to make a decent living.
....<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->This is an ad hominem argument. In any case, no one has said in this thread that English should not be taught at all. Did you even read the previous posts properly?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Second that.
"ONLY route"
Defeatist attitude. Betrays belief in inevitability of English in (1) overpowering all Indian languages; (2) being the lingua franca of India already; (3) marginalising non-English speaking communities in India itself.
None holds true yet, nor is (2) likely to be anytime soon. (3) has not happened in any other British colonies as far as I'm aware. Extinction was only gradual.
Not denying that English has definitely become a highly aggressive language, as everyone in mainland Europe, at least NW, will agree. This inferior-for-technical-purposes language ousted German from its far more deserved spot as language for technical fields in the early 90s or late 80s. Change to English has not been an improvement.
Even in America, the significant usage of German until start of 20th century, I think it was, has been utterly wiped out by English. (Will post example links if necessary.)
But its aggression depends entirely on consent. India has been the battleground for many ideas that have been successful elsewhere:
(1) indefatigability and unstoppability of islam (disproved);
(2) irresistability of christianity (disproved);
(3) third world countries cannot of themselves break free from colonialism (disproved);
(4) inevitability of communist revolution and its success (disproved);
and more.
Let's see this battle take place first, before writing it off. No sense in surrendering before the challenge has even been given.
Indians ought to learn from others' mistakes.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Now Tenglish people just have to get rid of their script and adopt roman script. Thanks to Internet, it is already happening!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->When I was in India last (around mid 2006), I saw the funniest thing. A number of TV adverts where Tamil characters were written in Arabic or Persian style. Similarly, some islami stores also had boards and signs with what took me a while to recognise as Tamil. Strange that the DMK has not pounced on them for the very real act of subverting the Tamil script. But then, the DMK will be the first to abandon Tamil if enough people in the state had converted to christoterrorism. Tamil is just a ruse they hide behind. Whatever cause can get and keep them in power is what they'll represent. It may well be English tomorrow.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In fact, I know of one guy(Telugu) already in the US, whose parents told every prospective bride that he would eventually settle in India in the next five years. He was serially rejected by every girl he saw. This happened in 2000.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I don't think there's a hard and fast rule of what Indians want.
In my family, most of the marriageable girls <i>who had grown up in India</i> insisted on finding spouses who intended to either (1) stay in India; (2) return to India (sooner the better). One cousin married the first prospective who said he'd never move to the US. She had refused all the others, precisely for saying that if the opportunity ever arose they might consider moving there.
So there's all sorts in India.
Then again, one can't blame people for wanting to leave when the terrorist government is in power.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->It is strange that those English speaking Indians should oppose the entry of more Indians into benefits of a wider education and currently the ONLY route for an Indian to make a decent living.
....<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->This is an ad hominem argument. In any case, no one has said in this thread that English should not be taught at all. Did you even read the previous posts properly?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Second that.
"ONLY route"
Defeatist attitude. Betrays belief in inevitability of English in (1) overpowering all Indian languages; (2) being the lingua franca of India already; (3) marginalising non-English speaking communities in India itself.
None holds true yet, nor is (2) likely to be anytime soon. (3) has not happened in any other British colonies as far as I'm aware. Extinction was only gradual.
Not denying that English has definitely become a highly aggressive language, as everyone in mainland Europe, at least NW, will agree. This inferior-for-technical-purposes language ousted German from its far more deserved spot as language for technical fields in the early 90s or late 80s. Change to English has not been an improvement.
Even in America, the significant usage of German until start of 20th century, I think it was, has been utterly wiped out by English. (Will post example links if necessary.)
But its aggression depends entirely on consent. India has been the battleground for many ideas that have been successful elsewhere:
(1) indefatigability and unstoppability of islam (disproved);
(2) irresistability of christianity (disproved);
(3) third world countries cannot of themselves break free from colonialism (disproved);
(4) inevitability of communist revolution and its success (disproved);
and more.
Let's see this battle take place first, before writing it off. No sense in surrendering before the challenge has even been given.