04-17-2007, 10:49 AM
Ah! Thank you [EDITED]
A very welcome removal of mask from "Due Reverence to an engineering marvel?" (post 23) to : "IMO... legend of... Sethu was built of natural materials... there is really no test to verify these claims" and "Hindus are again isolated as a bunch of yapping savages". (post 31)
Thank you, because it is always fairly easier to respond to those who declare Hindus savages, as compared to those who sound like genuine Hindus themselves.
As to the chest-thumping of your 'The Minister', about the "boreholes" he is talking about.
The "prestigious institute" he is talking about is NIOT. Let me quote from the NIOT report itself.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->National Institute of Ocean Technology (NIOT), Chennai carried out 44
vibro-coring operations along the Channel alignment.
Results of the vibro-coring operation:
1. Sector AB (Length 17.3 km. Volume of material to be dredged 3,
76, 11,940 m3): Four Vibro-cores. Average water depth 6.5 to 9.1 m.
AB1 & AB3 encountered <b>hard strata</b> at depth: "Would require higher dredging operation including <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>probably hard formation"</span> (AB1 to AB3 is the Setu area. See map at the bottom of my post)
2. Sector BC (Length 13.38 km. Volume of material to be dredged 58,
87,713 m3) : Six vibro-cores. Average water depth 8-12 m.
Encountered mostly sandy strata. How ever BC6 to BC3 met with
calcareous rock at depth.
3. Sector CD (Length 37.44 km. Volume of material to be dredged 0
m3) :Eight vibro-cores. Average water depth 12.7 to 13.5 m
Strata consist of clay.
4. Sector DE (Length 40.48 km. Volume of material to be dredged 0
m3) :Eleven vibro- cores. Average water depth 12.5 to 13.5 m.
Rock at bottom
5. Sector EE4 (Length 54.4 km.) Volume of material to be dredged 1,
02, 62,259 m3): Thirteen vibro-cores. Average water depth 7.0 to 12 m.
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See the image I am posting in the end, and notice if you can, that the AB1 - AB3 corresponds to the the base of the Setu. The material composition as has been recorded above, shows it to be a unique geo-formation, entirely distinguishable from its surroundings through the miles aparts.
"Hard Strata" refers to a layer upon layer of rock formation. More details about it further below. So what is the explanation of the formation of a completely heterogenous rock foundatin, different from its surroundings, just for a stretch of the length? Leave aside Ramayana for a while, and what material was used according to the "legend" in your words. <b>What </b>is the geological explanation that Baalu's "scientists" have given to this material phenomenon?
Another portion from the same report:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Four on shore holes and six off shore holes have been drilled. The on
shore holes in the Adam's bridge area have been located on either side
of the proposed alignment and their data can be extrapolated for the
conditions that will be encountered along the alignment. The six off
shore holes have been drilled along the alignment.
On shore bore holes:
In B.H. No.1 drilled to a depth of 21 m, from 7.5 m to 10.5 m silty clay with pieces of calcareous sand stone, 10.5 m to 12.0 m crushed pieces
of rock and calcareous sand stone, 13.5 m to 15.0 m fine sand with
coral bed, and from <b>15.0 m to 16.5 m silty sand with rock has been
encountered.</b> The N values between 4.5 m to 6.0 m is 41,6.0m to 7.5
m is 51,10.5m to 12.0 m is 50,13.5 m to 15.0 m is 86,15.0 m to 16.5
m is 86,16.5 m to 18.0 m is 100 and 19.5 m to 21.0 m is 40 have been recorded.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright. What explains the silty sand and rock, at the depth of 15 meters onwards. Also what about after the depth of 16.5 meters? Wasn't the hole 21 m deep?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Detailed log of the off shore holes are not available. From a summary of the bore hole data, it could be seen that <b>all the holes have
encountered rock at various depths</b> and have high N value at places.</span>
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh! So detailed logs of these off shore holes are NOT available. Why not? What happened to them? But anyways it does say that much about Rocks, which its neighbourhood does not have.
Now, our talented, scientific, non-savage commentator still owes us savages the plain answers to this basic question: "Why ONLY this configuration, why not the other alternatives, which dont have Setu on the path?
<img src='http://www.sethusamudram.gov.in/images/Index/Photo1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
A very welcome removal of mask from "Due Reverence to an engineering marvel?" (post 23) to : "IMO... legend of... Sethu was built of natural materials... there is really no test to verify these claims" and "Hindus are again isolated as a bunch of yapping savages". (post 31)
Thank you, because it is always fairly easier to respond to those who declare Hindus savages, as compared to those who sound like genuine Hindus themselves.
As to the chest-thumping of your 'The Minister', about the "boreholes" he is talking about.
The "prestigious institute" he is talking about is NIOT. Let me quote from the NIOT report itself.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->National Institute of Ocean Technology (NIOT), Chennai carried out 44
vibro-coring operations along the Channel alignment.
Results of the vibro-coring operation:
1. Sector AB (Length 17.3 km. Volume of material to be dredged 3,
76, 11,940 m3): Four Vibro-cores. Average water depth 6.5 to 9.1 m.
AB1 & AB3 encountered <b>hard strata</b> at depth: "Would require higher dredging operation including <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>probably hard formation"</span> (AB1 to AB3 is the Setu area. See map at the bottom of my post)
2. Sector BC (Length 13.38 km. Volume of material to be dredged 58,
87,713 m3) : Six vibro-cores. Average water depth 8-12 m.
Encountered mostly sandy strata. How ever BC6 to BC3 met with
calcareous rock at depth.
3. Sector CD (Length 37.44 km. Volume of material to be dredged 0
m3) :Eight vibro-cores. Average water depth 12.7 to 13.5 m
Strata consist of clay.
4. Sector DE (Length 40.48 km. Volume of material to be dredged 0
m3) :Eleven vibro- cores. Average water depth 12.5 to 13.5 m.
Rock at bottom
5. Sector EE4 (Length 54.4 km.) Volume of material to be dredged 1,
02, 62,259 m3): Thirteen vibro-cores. Average water depth 7.0 to 12 m.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See the image I am posting in the end, and notice if you can, that the AB1 - AB3 corresponds to the the base of the Setu. The material composition as has been recorded above, shows it to be a unique geo-formation, entirely distinguishable from its surroundings through the miles aparts.
"Hard Strata" refers to a layer upon layer of rock formation. More details about it further below. So what is the explanation of the formation of a completely heterogenous rock foundatin, different from its surroundings, just for a stretch of the length? Leave aside Ramayana for a while, and what material was used according to the "legend" in your words. <b>What </b>is the geological explanation that Baalu's "scientists" have given to this material phenomenon?
Another portion from the same report:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Four on shore holes and six off shore holes have been drilled. The on
shore holes in the Adam's bridge area have been located on either side
of the proposed alignment and their data can be extrapolated for the
conditions that will be encountered along the alignment. The six off
shore holes have been drilled along the alignment.
On shore bore holes:
In B.H. No.1 drilled to a depth of 21 m, from 7.5 m to 10.5 m silty clay with pieces of calcareous sand stone, 10.5 m to 12.0 m crushed pieces
of rock and calcareous sand stone, 13.5 m to 15.0 m fine sand with
coral bed, and from <b>15.0 m to 16.5 m silty sand with rock has been
encountered.</b> The N values between 4.5 m to 6.0 m is 41,6.0m to 7.5
m is 51,10.5m to 12.0 m is 50,13.5 m to 15.0 m is 86,15.0 m to 16.5
m is 86,16.5 m to 18.0 m is 100 and 19.5 m to 21.0 m is 40 have been recorded.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright. What explains the silty sand and rock, at the depth of 15 meters onwards. Also what about after the depth of 16.5 meters? Wasn't the hole 21 m deep?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Detailed log of the off shore holes are not available. From a summary of the bore hole data, it could be seen that <b>all the holes have
encountered rock at various depths</b> and have high N value at places.</span>
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh! So detailed logs of these off shore holes are NOT available. Why not? What happened to them? But anyways it does say that much about Rocks, which its neighbourhood does not have.
Now, our talented, scientific, non-savage commentator still owes us savages the plain answers to this basic question: "Why ONLY this configuration, why not the other alternatives, which dont have Setu on the path?
<img src='http://www.sethusamudram.gov.in/images/Index/Photo1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />