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Cricket Thread -4
Joke from a tamil serial

Q: Dravid, whats the reason for india not going to Super 8??
Ans: Thats because of Indra Gandhi!
Q: Indra gandhi, she is long dead?
Ans: She had seprated bangladesh from India, if she had'nt bangla players would have been in our team and we might have been thorugh to Super 8.

(I knoe beede was seprated from paki, so the joke is with pun intededed)
In my humble opinion, Ntini and Brett Lee are not in the same league. Last time when I watched Brett Lee in CBS tournament, the guy clocked 100mph. Shane Bond used to bowl like that. Ntini is not a bad bowler. But he is clearly not Brett Lee.

Tendulkar’s swing ability came as a surprise to me. But even if you can swing the ball at say 70mph, it is not going to be very effective. Swing creates problem for a batsman when things are happening at a high speed. At lower speed, batsman has just that extra fraction of a second to correct his stance. Kapil Dev was a good swinger of the ball. But I have seen him getting whipped during slog time. Agarkar does well during slog hours. I heard they brought Prasad as fast bowling coach. I hope this will do good to Agarkar, Sri Santh and other fast bowlers.

I have high hopes for Sri Santh because the kid is not afraid to throw bouncers. This is a good trait. Also, I would like to see RP Singh given more chances. I really liked RP Singh’s pace bouncers against Pakistaneese in Pakistan. If my memory is correct, RP Singh picked a few wickets on bouncers on slow Pakistaneese pitches.

Chukthar is overrated. I have never seen him clocking more than 91mph. And even Sehwag trashed him quite a few times. LOL.

Tait has some good role models. I saw a video where McGrath was mentoring Tait. In case of India, only experience fast bowler is Zaheer. They do not seem to last long. We have to figure out a way to rotate and keep our bowlers healty so that they can last a bit longer. Good example is Bala Jee. They guy had speed and tight line/length. But where is he now?
Anil Kumble has retired. He bowled very well. A big shoe to fill in.
I don't know about shoes, but you may want to look at these other items of clothing

This would get banned on any Religion thread.
Hello.. cup not over yet.
Semi line-up NZ, SL, Aus and SA.

Woolmer case is progressing at snail pace, possibly to nab killers after the finals.
Bob Woolmer's killer identified: Report
Snake venom used!

Pak scribes in Woolmer CCTV footage
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->BBC claims tests show Woolmer was drugged
April 30, 2007

A BBC television investigation into the death of Bob Woolmer, shown on Monday night, claimed that toxicology tests support earlier reports that he was poisoned before being strangled.

The Panorama programme said that there is evidence of a drug being present in his system that would have incapacitated him.

"It now seems certain that as he was being strangled, he'd already been rendered helpless, leaving him unable to fight back," said Adam Parsons, the show's producer. "The specific details of that poison are now very likely to offer a significant lead to finding his murderer."

Parsons' programme also claimed that while Woolmer had a good relationship with his players, there were deep religious divides inside the Pakistan team and that Woolmer was growing increasingly frustrated with the effect this was having on the side.

<b>An example given was that players left the field to be replaced by substitutes to enable them to pray during matches. "He was totally against it," said Pervez Mir, Pakistan's media manager. "He felt he shouldn't really be subjected to it. I agreed with him."</b>

Mir also said that there were players who preferred to "pray not play", and he revealed that his comments had led to him receiving death threats on his return home.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sri Lanka cry foul over Gilchrist`s ball-in-glove ploy
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"I had a squash ball in my bottom-hand to help with my grip in training and I decided in this World Cup to use it in a match," he said.
Any ideas of what this issue is? How does it aid grip or performance?
Chasing 250 against BD, India scrapes through after being 144/5 at one point; thx to Dhoni and Karthik.

Initial batting line up disappoint as usual.

This after Coach Shastri said:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Show respect for what they have done. Guys, they have played for 15 years. Just be patient guys, give them some time and you will see what they are capable of."
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"What I did not like in the last six months is the cricketers were going through the motions like they were doing a sort of a nine to five desk job," he said.

"If you don't enjoy what you are doing, forget about winning."
An attitude like this, one can see as to why Indian batting line up sucks. They should be sent packing to play in Ranji-Irani leagues or some Railway XI versus Rest of Motorists XI where they can truly "<i>enjoy what they are doing</i>" and India gets some real professionals with attitude and drive.
2 articles on the same.
Woolmer definitely not strangled according to Scotland Yard. Jamaican police still appear to believe he was poisoned (2nd news piece). Bit of a mystery.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Monday May 14, 08:53 AM
<b>Woolmer died of natural causes: reports</b>
A group of Scotland Yard investigators has concluded that Pakistan's World Cup cricket coach died of heart failure from natural causes and was <b>not strangled</b> as local police concluded, a newspaper reported on Sunday.

In London, Scotland Yard declined to comment on the report in the Jamaica Gleaner newspaper and said it would not discuss an analysis of toxicology tests conducted on behalf of Jamaican authorities.

"This is an inquiry being conducted by the Jamaican authorities," said a Scotland Yard spokesman.

"It's down to them to comment on developments."

The report in the Gleaner, which did not identify its source beyond saying it was in London, was the latest in many mixed messages since Woolmer was found unconscious in his Kingston hotel room on March 18 and pronounced dead at a hospital.

The previous day, his powerhouse team had lost to underdog Ireland, assuring a first-round exit of Pakistan.

Jamaican police later announced Woolmer had been strangled, after initially saying the cause of death was inconclusive.

A barrage of unsourced media reports, especially in the British press, has said Woolmer was first drugged or poisoned before being strangled.

Mark Shields, the lead Jamaican police investigator in the case, has refused to comment on the reports, saying he was awaiting independent verification in a British government-owned lab of toxicology tests that were done in Jamaica.

Shields, a former Scotland Yard veteran, did not immediately respond to calls for comment on Sunday's newspaper report.

He travelled to Britain last week and then had been expected to go to South Africa, where Woolmer's family lives.

One of two Pakistani detectives who travelled to Jamaica to assist in the probe told The Associated Press on May 7 that the investigation was so far "inconclusive."

The detective, Mir Zubair Mahmood, said it was unclear whether Woolmer was murdered or had died of natural causes.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> Monday May 14, 02:07 PM
<b>Cricket coach Woolmer died of heart failure, not murder - report</b>

Photo : AFP 
KINGSTON, Jamaica (AFP) - Pakistan cricket coach Bob Woolmer died of a heart attack and was not murdered, the Jamaican Gleaner newspaper reported Sunday, citing Scotland Yard sources.

Woolmer, 58, was found dead in his Kingston hotel room on March 18, the day after cricketing powers Pakistan crashed out of the World Cup in an upset loss to minnows Ireland.

<b>But the Jamaican police said Sunday they are standing behind their belief that Woolmer was murdered.

"That will remain our position until such time as the results of the investigation are known; including the forensic and pathology analysis," said Jamaica Constabulary Force (JCF) director of communications Karl Angell in a news release.</b>

Woolmer's death led to a fevered round of speculation. One theory was that his death was linked to match-fixing and illegal betting in cricket, and investigators from Britain and Pakistan were drafted in to help with the probe.

But the Jamaican Gleaner said that a pathology report submitted by Scotland Yard detectives stated that Woolmer "died of natural causes and not manual strangulation as was initially reported by Deputy Commissioner Mark Shields."

"The Scotland Yard report specifically said Woolmer died of heart failure, contradicting earlier reports by the investigative arm of the Jamaica Constabulary Force and local pathologist, Dr Ere Sheshiah, who had conducted a post-mortem on Woolmers's body," the paper said.

The Scotland Yard findings "were disclosed last week during a meeting with Jamaica's Deputy Commissioner of Police Mark Shields and Superintendent Colin Pinnace, who stopped over in London en route to South Africa" where they were heading to meet with Woolmer's family, it added.

Said Angell, "The speculation made in Sunday's newspapers is part of a series of unhelpful reports that have appeared in the media throughout the duration of this investigation," Angell continued in the release.

"The JCF is conducting an extensive and thoroughly professional investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of Bob Woolmer.

"This has included a request to the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) in London to conduct a review of the investigation," the release further quoted Angell saying.

It was also reported on Saturday, that the Jamaican police were close to naming Woolmer's killer.

"The JCF would again urge the media to refrain from speculation because of the additional distress it places upon the Woolmer family and the fact that it can hinder the progress of the investigation," the release added.

Angell also disclosed that Shields and Deputy Superintendent Colin Pinnock have met with the Metropolitan Police review team and the pathology and forensic experts in London.

Angell also said police have departed for South Africa to brief Gill Woolmer and her family on the progress of the investigation.

In addition to their working relationship with Scotland Yard, Angell, said, "due to the open and transparent approach to the Woolmer investigation, the JCF has also welcomed assistance of the Pakistani authorities and INTERPOL."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Former Indian spinner Maninder Singh arrested with cocaine</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->New Delhi, May 22: Former Indian spinner Maninder Singh was arrested on Tuesday with one and a half grams of cocaine in Preet Vihar area of the capital. He was taken to Shakarpur police station for questioning. Reportedly a Nigerian citizen, who was delivering the drugs to Maninder has also been arrested. The matter has been sent to the Narcotics Bureau for further probe.

The Delhi Police has declined to comment on the issue as of now. A case under relevant sections of the Narcotic Drugs and Psychotrophic Substances Act was registered against the 41 year old Maninder.

Singh`s arrest from his apartment came on the basis of a tip off, an official said.

The amount found in Singh’s possession was under the 3 grams mark which is generally comes under personal consumption. But the presence of a drug-peddler at his house raises questions about his involvement in the larger drug-nexus<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am glad to see India win the first ODI. BDs admitted that Indians played a bit better, which is very unlike Pakis.
India in 1930s had possibly the best pace bowling attack in the world. It's a mytery why India has not produced such a fantastic pair again even after more than 70+ years.

Fast bowling legacy: Nissar and Amar Singh

The selection of indian coach is underway. For some reason, about which no one has a clue, Whatmore was discarded and now Ford and Emburey are front runners. My bet is on Emburey, why bcos his coaching record is horrible. He took over Middlesex county team in 2001 and now they are relegated to second division and has been sacked as coach.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The hunt for India's coach

Emburey is second man on BCCI list

Cricinfo staff

June 5, 2007

John Emburey, the former England offspinner, is the second candidate for India's coaching job, the Indian board has confirmed.

Emburey joins former South African coach Graham Ford in the running for the coach's position and has been called to Chennai for discussions on June 9. The Indian board has spoken to Emburey and is expected to send him an e-mail, with more details, sometime today.

"The Board of Control for Cricket in India has invited Graham Ford and John Emburey to come to Chennai and make a presentation to the Special Committee on 9th June, 2007," the board's media release said. "After this a final decision on the next coach of Indian team will be made."

Emburey's name was recommended by former Indian captain Sunil Gavaskar, <i>(Sunil has been always against foreign coaches and another failure coach like Chappel would bring indian coaches into contention!)</i>  BCCI's Chief Administrative Officer Ratnakar Shetty was reported as saying. Gavaskar was one of the seven-member panel that met in Bangalore on June 4 for discussing possible candidates for the coaching job.

The board had earlier announced on Monday that it had narrowed down the search to Ford and "a foreigner whose availability could not be ascertained". Emburey played 64 Tests for England between 1978 and 1995, ending with a modest 147 wickets at 38.4. He was, however, considered a model pro on the county circuit with 1608 wickets in a career that spanned 24 years.

<b>However, he hasn't tasted much success as a coach. He was player-coach and then coach at Northamptonshire between 1996 and 1998 before being sacked with a year of his contract remaining. In 2001 he signed to coach Berkshire, a minor county, with the intention of emigrating to Australia at the end of the summer, but on the eve of the season he was appointed as Middlesex's third coach in as many seasons, taking over from old team-mate Mike Gatting.

In six years he struggled with a side in transition, bringing in some distinctly average players as well, and at the end of 2006 the county were relegated from the top flight in both the Championship and National League. In 2007 Middlesex brought in Richard Pybus to coach with Emburey moving to the more hands-off role as Director of Cricket.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->(Sunil has been always against foreign coaches and another failure coach like Chappel would bring indian coaches into contention!)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mumbai cartel (Pawar, Vengsarkar, Gavaskar, Shastri and Tendulkar) have to approve the coach. Else it'll be pretty difficult for new coach. Chappell's goose was cooked by these guys, maybe Whatmore saw the writing on the wall. Last night's ZeeNews had Whatmore not returning phonecalls to BCCI. Plus he's been getting feelers from Paks.
Ford turns down offer to coach India
<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+Jun 11 2007, 01:13 PM-->QUOTE(Viren @ Jun 11 2007, 01:13 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ford turns down offer to coach India

Probably took one look at these board jokers and said goodbye to the job! Which makes us think why Whatmore is a glutton for punishment and why the board rejected him. Lets have an indian coach now when india tours Aus. Preferably Gavaskar! that should put these jokers in their place.

Interesting times ahead.
Sehwag dropped for England tour - about time <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
No coach for India?
I wonder if Tendulkar could take up the job- may be it would be a good option for Tendulkar to transition out into retirement. <!--emo&Tongue--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Or Sharad Pawar ?
India cruise to 7-wicket win, lead series 1-0

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