<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+May 6 2007, 09:13 PM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ May 6 2007, 09:13 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Congressman Trent Franks Introduces Resolution on Untouchability</b>
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Dalit Freedom Networkâs mission</b> is to partner with the Dalits (Indiaâs Untouchables) in their quest for <b>religious freedom</b>, social justice, and human dignity by mobilizing human, informational, and financial resources.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Check the "Unreached Peoples" link - to the right of the page.
[right][snapback]68367[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->'Religious freedom' does that include freedom from christianity? Thought not.
Congressman Trent, whom Mudy had pointed out in the India and US - III thread as having 'fought against extending Voting Rights act for minorities', speaking for Indians is rather reminiscent of Pat Robertson trying to missionise amongst Africans. The same Robertson:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pat speaking on Apartheid in South Africa in 1992:
"I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."
<i>--Pat Robertson in his televised program "The 700 Club"</i>
Link
Some more of Pat's racism:
He was even accused of "Jim Crow-style racial discrimination" by black employees who successfully sued his Christian Coalition in 2001 for forcing them enter its offices through a back door and eat in a segregated area (Robertson has since resigned).
From: Pat Robertson's Katrina Cash<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->( http://freetruth.50webs.org/C4b.htm#PatOnAfrica )
Robertson is also a Baptist, and a champion of 'African rights' <i>as long as he gets his African diamonds</i> (link above). Looting from Africa and chummying up with dictators. Jeebus bless him.
How can one expect more from Trent Franks, who as a right holy congressman tries his best to outdo dear old PR.
Must be thankful he didn't refer to the Oryans, Dravidioids and the other nice native Hamites (well that's what these christos think when they say 'animists' and 'natives' and 'dalits', 'dravidoids', 'hindoos').
To set the right example, the thoughtful US congress is going to put its money where its mouth is. They are going to extend reservations and quotas so it applies in immigration to all 'christian dalits', while blocking all those other evil 'OBC BC and UnBC' Hindus. In fact, they might even go so far as issuing a green card - better yet, citizenship even - to every 'dalit' they convert. That's true charity for you, the kind WASPY christos are overflowing to give.
No? Why not? <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> Aren't they full of love and kindness and every other good thing we saw in the christian adverts?
What? The christian converts must remain in India and not migrate in masses of 900 million to the US? (900 million is calculated as follows: free citizenship in less terrorised country might perhaps make most Indians realise their 'dalit' ancestry whilst they simultaneously See the Light of christianity - Praise the holy spook!)
The US Congress, such a swell bunch:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+May 6 2007, 06:50 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(k.ram @ May 6 2007, 06:50 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->
<b>Resolution on India's untouchables introduced in US Congress</b>[right][snapback]68363[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Don't want to critique them too heavily, but can't help observing they must have been loud asleep and snoring when:
(1) WASPY US govt sterilises native American women in 1970s:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>UNITED STATES</b>
· Between <b>60,000 and 70,000 Indian women were sterilized in the 1970s</b> after a pro-forma "consent". (E, Bruce E. Johansen, 1998)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://web.archive.org/web/20060118024830/...om/webdoc15.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>STERILIZATION</b>
Article II of United Nations General Assembly resolution, 1946: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, as such: (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group. In the mid-1970s a Choctaw-Tsalagi Indian Health Services doctor was approached by a 26-year-old American Indian woman who desired a "womb transplant." She had been sterilized when she was 20 at the <b>Indian Health Service hospital</b> in Claremont, Oklahoma. It was discoverd that 75 percent of the Claremont sterilizations were non-therapeutic, that <b>women American Indians were being prompted to sign sterilization forms they didn't understand, that they were being told the operations were reversible, and that some women were even being asked to sign sterilization papers while they had yet to come out of birthing sedation.</b>
<b>Common Sense magazine reported that the Indian Health Service "was sterilizing 3,000 Indian women per year, 4 to 6 percent of the child bearing population...Dr. R. T. Ravenholt, [then] director of the federal government's Office of Population, later confirmed that 'surgical sterilization has become increasingly important in recent years as one of the advanced methods of fertility management'."</b> Ravenholt's response to these inquires "told the population Association of America in St. Louis that the critics were 'a really radical extremist group lashing out at a responsible program so that revolution would occur'."
('Fertility management' - that's the 70s christo WASPY US govt's term for deliberated ethnic cleansing.)
From the beginning of European control there has been an unrelenting drive to commit genocide over another culture. The American Indians were a majority so the Europeans called them an enemy. One of the major facts the United States Government has failed to understand is that the spiritual aspect of life is inseparable from the economic and the political aspects. The loss of tradition and memory will be the loss of positive sense of self. Those reared in traditional American Native societies are inclined to relate events and experiences to one another, they do not organize perceptions or external events in terms of dualities or priorities. This egalitarianism is reflected in the structure of American Indian literature, which does not rely on conflict, crises, and resolution for organization.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->US govt did calculated genocide of the real Americans. Scary racist government.
(Extra info: they showed a documentary about 3 years ago, on how the Slovakian government hospitals are sterilising the Roma now. It's a matter that could not be ignored at a time when Slovakia was trying to enter the EU.)
Oh, and here's
(2) The US experimenting on African-Americans - from the 30s to the 70s - by infecting them with syphilis!
http://www.anairhoads.org/govexperiments/tuskegee.shtml
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In 1932, a <b>forty-year study</b> was launched by the Public Health Service in Macon County, Alabama, <b>to examine cases of the bacterium Treponema palladium (syphilis) among a group of carefully selected African-American males.</b>
In total, 600 patients were selected, <b>399 were infected with syphilis</b> and 201 were not. All of the men in the study were poor, uneducated, and were desperate to receive the hot meals the <b>Public Health Service</b> provided in exchange for the treatments. Ironically, they were also offered burial insurance.
('Offering burial insurance' - the christian thing to do. It's this attention to little details that endears christianism to all.)
None were told they were to be used as human guinea pigs, or told they were in fact not being treated. Half of the male subjects suffered mental dysfunction, varied neurological complications (neurosyphilis), blindness and ultimately death from the expirement without ever being given penicillin to spare their lives.
[...]
<b>The federal government settled out of court with the families and the 120 surviving victims in 1974, two years after the cover-up was exposed by a whistle-blower, Jean Heller in July 1972.</b> The settlement included funding for the wives and any offspring that contracted congenital syphilis during delivery.
(Of course, the Greatest Government on Gawd's Globe wouldn't have lifted a finger if someone hadn't found out and told on them first.)
Infected pregnant women have a 40 percent chance of having a syphilitic stillbirth or losing their newborn suddenly after birth. Babies born to a mother with either untreated syphilis or syphilis treated after the 34th week of pregnancy have a 40 to 70 percent chance of being infected with congenital syphilis.
<b>Newborns suffered as a direct result of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study. Families were unaware of the cause of the illness and deaths until years later. The babies who manage to survive</b>, had serious health problems including anaemia, runny noses, skin sores, white patches in the mouth, inflamed arm and leg bones, a swollen liver, jaundice, and some were born with unusually small heads.<b> Sadly, a 10-day treatment with Bicillin, (penicillin - G benzathine), would have cured the infants.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->But didn't ya know, it's ALL OKAY, because a president APOLOGISED:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->President Bill Clinton apologised to the surviving victims, Sam Doner, Ernest Hendon, Carter Howard, George Key, Frederick Moss, Charlie W. Pollard, Herman Shaw, and Fred Simmons on 16 May 1997 for the reckless experiments performed on them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->There, all better.
One of the references given seems rather apt:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Brandt, Allan. "Racism and Research: The Case of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study," in Sickness and Health in America: Readings in the History of Medicine and Public Health, ed. Judith Walzer Leavitt and Ronald L. Numbers. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press, 1985: 331-343.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These Champions for Equality, ready to extend 'their loving <i>christian</i> kindness and compassion' to Indians are plain scary. American christo WASPY practice of untouchability can kill you. Gruesomely. Perhaps people shouldn't look to the US govt for good advice or influence or example.
What's that? No self-respecting Hindu - Harijan or otherwise - wants to convert? Not so many lining up to migrate to the good ole des Etats-Unis? Quel mystere.
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Dalit Freedom Networkâs mission</b> is to partner with the Dalits (Indiaâs Untouchables) in their quest for <b>religious freedom</b>, social justice, and human dignity by mobilizing human, informational, and financial resources.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Check the "Unreached Peoples" link - to the right of the page.
[right][snapback]68367[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->'Religious freedom' does that include freedom from christianity? Thought not.
Congressman Trent, whom Mudy had pointed out in the India and US - III thread as having 'fought against extending Voting Rights act for minorities', speaking for Indians is rather reminiscent of Pat Robertson trying to missionise amongst Africans. The same Robertson:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pat speaking on Apartheid in South Africa in 1992:
"I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise. There needs to be some kind of protection for the minority which the white people represent now, a minority, and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."
<i>--Pat Robertson in his televised program "The 700 Club"</i>
Link
Some more of Pat's racism:
He was even accused of "Jim Crow-style racial discrimination" by black employees who successfully sued his Christian Coalition in 2001 for forcing them enter its offices through a back door and eat in a segregated area (Robertson has since resigned).
From: Pat Robertson's Katrina Cash<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->( http://freetruth.50webs.org/C4b.htm#PatOnAfrica )
Robertson is also a Baptist, and a champion of 'African rights' <i>as long as he gets his African diamonds</i> (link above). Looting from Africa and chummying up with dictators. Jeebus bless him.
How can one expect more from Trent Franks, who as a right holy congressman tries his best to outdo dear old PR.
Must be thankful he didn't refer to the Oryans, Dravidioids and the other nice native Hamites (well that's what these christos think when they say 'animists' and 'natives' and 'dalits', 'dravidoids', 'hindoos').
To set the right example, the thoughtful US congress is going to put its money where its mouth is. They are going to extend reservations and quotas so it applies in immigration to all 'christian dalits', while blocking all those other evil 'OBC BC and UnBC' Hindus. In fact, they might even go so far as issuing a green card - better yet, citizenship even - to every 'dalit' they convert. That's true charity for you, the kind WASPY christos are overflowing to give.
No? Why not? <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> Aren't they full of love and kindness and every other good thing we saw in the christian adverts?
What? The christian converts must remain in India and not migrate in masses of 900 million to the US? (900 million is calculated as follows: free citizenship in less terrorised country might perhaps make most Indians realise their 'dalit' ancestry whilst they simultaneously See the Light of christianity - Praise the holy spook!)
The US Congress, such a swell bunch:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+May 6 2007, 06:50 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(k.ram @ May 6 2007, 06:50 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->
<b>Resolution on India's untouchables introduced in US Congress</b>[right][snapback]68363[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Don't want to critique them too heavily, but can't help observing they must have been loud asleep and snoring when:
(1) WASPY US govt sterilises native American women in 1970s:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>UNITED STATES</b>
· Between <b>60,000 and 70,000 Indian women were sterilized in the 1970s</b> after a pro-forma "consent". (E, Bruce E. Johansen, 1998)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://web.archive.org/web/20060118024830/...om/webdoc15.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>STERILIZATION</b>
Article II of United Nations General Assembly resolution, 1946: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, as such: (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group. In the mid-1970s a Choctaw-Tsalagi Indian Health Services doctor was approached by a 26-year-old American Indian woman who desired a "womb transplant." She had been sterilized when she was 20 at the <b>Indian Health Service hospital</b> in Claremont, Oklahoma. It was discoverd that 75 percent of the Claremont sterilizations were non-therapeutic, that <b>women American Indians were being prompted to sign sterilization forms they didn't understand, that they were being told the operations were reversible, and that some women were even being asked to sign sterilization papers while they had yet to come out of birthing sedation.</b>
<b>Common Sense magazine reported that the Indian Health Service "was sterilizing 3,000 Indian women per year, 4 to 6 percent of the child bearing population...Dr. R. T. Ravenholt, [then] director of the federal government's Office of Population, later confirmed that 'surgical sterilization has become increasingly important in recent years as one of the advanced methods of fertility management'."</b> Ravenholt's response to these inquires "told the population Association of America in St. Louis that the critics were 'a really radical extremist group lashing out at a responsible program so that revolution would occur'."
('Fertility management' - that's the 70s christo WASPY US govt's term for deliberated ethnic cleansing.)
From the beginning of European control there has been an unrelenting drive to commit genocide over another culture. The American Indians were a majority so the Europeans called them an enemy. One of the major facts the United States Government has failed to understand is that the spiritual aspect of life is inseparable from the economic and the political aspects. The loss of tradition and memory will be the loss of positive sense of self. Those reared in traditional American Native societies are inclined to relate events and experiences to one another, they do not organize perceptions or external events in terms of dualities or priorities. This egalitarianism is reflected in the structure of American Indian literature, which does not rely on conflict, crises, and resolution for organization.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->US govt did calculated genocide of the real Americans. Scary racist government.
(Extra info: they showed a documentary about 3 years ago, on how the Slovakian government hospitals are sterilising the Roma now. It's a matter that could not be ignored at a time when Slovakia was trying to enter the EU.)
Oh, and here's
(2) The US experimenting on African-Americans - from the 30s to the 70s - by infecting them with syphilis!
http://www.anairhoads.org/govexperiments/tuskegee.shtml
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In 1932, a <b>forty-year study</b> was launched by the Public Health Service in Macon County, Alabama, <b>to examine cases of the bacterium Treponema palladium (syphilis) among a group of carefully selected African-American males.</b>
In total, 600 patients were selected, <b>399 were infected with syphilis</b> and 201 were not. All of the men in the study were poor, uneducated, and were desperate to receive the hot meals the <b>Public Health Service</b> provided in exchange for the treatments. Ironically, they were also offered burial insurance.
('Offering burial insurance' - the christian thing to do. It's this attention to little details that endears christianism to all.)
None were told they were to be used as human guinea pigs, or told they were in fact not being treated. Half of the male subjects suffered mental dysfunction, varied neurological complications (neurosyphilis), blindness and ultimately death from the expirement without ever being given penicillin to spare their lives.
[...]
<b>The federal government settled out of court with the families and the 120 surviving victims in 1974, two years after the cover-up was exposed by a whistle-blower, Jean Heller in July 1972.</b> The settlement included funding for the wives and any offspring that contracted congenital syphilis during delivery.
(Of course, the Greatest Government on Gawd's Globe wouldn't have lifted a finger if someone hadn't found out and told on them first.)
Infected pregnant women have a 40 percent chance of having a syphilitic stillbirth or losing their newborn suddenly after birth. Babies born to a mother with either untreated syphilis or syphilis treated after the 34th week of pregnancy have a 40 to 70 percent chance of being infected with congenital syphilis.
<b>Newborns suffered as a direct result of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study. Families were unaware of the cause of the illness and deaths until years later. The babies who manage to survive</b>, had serious health problems including anaemia, runny noses, skin sores, white patches in the mouth, inflamed arm and leg bones, a swollen liver, jaundice, and some were born with unusually small heads.<b> Sadly, a 10-day treatment with Bicillin, (penicillin - G benzathine), would have cured the infants.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->But didn't ya know, it's ALL OKAY, because a president APOLOGISED:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->President Bill Clinton apologised to the surviving victims, Sam Doner, Ernest Hendon, Carter Howard, George Key, Frederick Moss, Charlie W. Pollard, Herman Shaw, and Fred Simmons on 16 May 1997 for the reckless experiments performed on them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->There, all better.
One of the references given seems rather apt:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Brandt, Allan. "Racism and Research: The Case of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study," in Sickness and Health in America: Readings in the History of Medicine and Public Health, ed. Judith Walzer Leavitt and Ronald L. Numbers. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press, 1985: 331-343.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
These Champions for Equality, ready to extend 'their loving <i>christian</i> kindness and compassion' to Indians are plain scary. American christo WASPY practice of untouchability can kill you. Gruesomely. Perhaps people shouldn't look to the US govt for good advice or influence or example.
What's that? No self-respecting Hindu - Harijan or otherwise - wants to convert? Not so many lining up to migrate to the good ole des Etats-Unis? Quel mystere.