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Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims -2
Interview with Maloy Krishna Dhar ex-IB head

Moreover, more than fifty per cent Muslims living in India want one more Muslim state (carved) out of India. If (in regard to counter-terrorism) we take serious action against Indian Muslims, Pakistan will exploit them in a more planned manner and encourage them for a separate homeland
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So does it really matter if a pakistani islamist or an Indian islamist kills us ?
Ultimately due to the rigid nature of islam
the kafir only has 2 options
1. West Punjab 1947 or
2. East Punjab 1947


Given that a civil war is inevitable
Even Gandhi could not prevent
1947

It is better to have it sooner than later, before they breed too much

To that extant, they must be put under maximum takleef ( discomfort )
The hope being that strict enforcement of laws would put them in a pressure cooker situation, fight or backdown


Modi has put them under takleef

such as
*enforcing anti-cow slaughter laws
*Enforcing noise ordinances'
*enforcing payment for electricity
*enforcing ruthless police suppression of muslim street rioting
*enforcing anti-sedition laws
*enforcing anti-crime laws on muslim mafia
*enforcing laws against no-go zones

At each point, they have the choice of escalating or backing down

In addition, hindu civil society in gujurat has also put them under takleef
by anti-muslim social boycotts

Gujarat is in fact the ideal role model
It is similar to the Malaysia model of slow strangulation
except it is used against muslims

In addition, Gujarat has almost matched muslim fertiltiy

Hence in the long term, muslims are screwed in Gujarat

The gujarat model can in fact be exported to all states with no fear of muslim reprisals

The only states where there is fear of major muslim reprisals is UP, Bihar, Assam and WB and Kerala

In western europe, muslims will reach critical mass by 2025 and it will be interesting to see how they deal with the internal muslim problem a-la milosevic

The why of social boycott

1. Lets say there is a muslim shop keeper in your area
Even if he is cheaper, it is better to boycott him

Here is why

Say you buy from him - he makes more money, then he buys a home in
your neighborhood ( to be near his shop )
his family moves in, and soon a mosque with its blaring loudspeakers
and a slaughter house and riots follow and you may be driven out of your house soon

2. The why's of not letting a muslim buy a flat in your complex, even if he offers a good price

He may slaughter a goat or a cow in front of your house and this by itself will make you sell out for a cheap price
He may add your daughter to his harem
<b>After Haj Subsidy, Muslims need Baggage Subsidy as well!</b> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
December 30, 2007

Jeddah (Saudi Arabia): Islamic Scholars say "The Haj makes Muslims feel real importance of life here on earth, and the afterlife, by stripping away all markers of social status, wealth, and pride."

We the generous Indians also contribute a portion of our Tax Money, for our Muslim Brothers to conduct this Haj Pilgrimage in the name of "Haj Subsidy"- Thinking those who go for Haj will return back as an ideal citizen who strips away all markers of social status, wealth, and pride. But many few know that their prime concern is shopping and not the so called pilgrimage which we give Subsidy!

"Air India has left nearly 130 Haj pilgrims from India stranded at Saudi Arabia's Jeddah airport after the flight they were scheduled to board took off without them" laments our National Dailies.

The Haji's who went to Haj by taking Subsidy from our pockets were denied boarding as they were not ready to pay the excess baggage! Usually if flying by Commercial flights only 20 kg of checked-in luggage and seven kg of hand baggage are allowed, But those going with Haj Subsidy under Govt. of India are getting an added benefit of 45 kg of checked-in luggage and 10 kgs as hand baggage free of cost. Even after this added allowance on baggage they still want the Government to pay for their excess baggage!

http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/3707.html

These no-good parasites should be dumped off in KSA, Palestine, Pakistan and other assorted centers of humanistic excellence.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Hajis protest at Karippur airport against Air India </b>
Pioneer News Service | Kozhikode
The Hajis who were returning after Haj pilgrimage had a harrowing time in the Kozhikode international airport. Hajis' complained that the holy Zam Zam water which is one of the purest part of the Hajis was not given by the Air India on time.

This entered a violent confrontation between the Hajis and their families and friends on the one side and the police on the other side. The police had to resort to a minor lathicharge to disperse the violent mob.

There were several relatives and friends of Hajis who were waiting at the airport to receive them while they were coming back from the pilgrimage.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Next they will say toilets was facing wrong direction and Camel urine should be provided as drink.
<b>Two Indian Muslim among 14 arrested in Spanish anti-terror raids </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Madrid, Jan 20: Spanish police have smashed a suspected Islamist terror cell, arresting 14 people and recovering bomb-making equipment in overnight raids in Barcelona, the Interior Minister said on Saturday.

"During our searches, we found various materials which could be explosives or be used to make explosives," Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba told a press conference in Madrid.

<b>Those arrested included 12 Pakistanis and two Indians, he said. Four timing devices as well as computer equipment which was still being examined were also recovered.</b>

According to Spanish media reports, a 15th person was arrested late Saturday night in Barcelona -- although there was no immediate confirmation from police in the city.

<b>The man, aged about 60, is thought to own a bakery near to a mosque searched by police. </b>

Rubalcaba said that <b>the group could be characterised as "radical Islamist", </b>was "highly organised" and was preparing to carry out an attack in the north-eastern Spanish <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Moron Singh will lose his sleep again.
Guys and gals, please give donation to buy sleeping pills for our Moron Singh, Indian Muslim will keep him awake for long time .

MEA should start saving these Indian Muslim and close eyes for Hindu Indians in Kenya and Malaysia.
<b>India seeks details of arrested nationals in Spain</b>
Here you go, MEA is running to save them. <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Next media will start paradeing crying family members of Islamist, and whole drama will start again.
Jamaat-e-Islami protests Tricolour at madrassas

<b>Islamist terrorists planned blasts in Goa</b>
<b>Terror camps, Pak flags in Karnataka jungles</b>
Conversion to Islam: Untouchables Strategy for Protest in India
Abdul Malik Mujahid
Why the untouchables of India are accepting Islam.

This award winning book makes a major contribution to scholarship about religion and society. By carefully examining the local and regional causes and the national consequences of ex-untouchables' conversion to Islam in South India, the author has deepened our understanding of the beliefs and actions associated with the pursuit of social justice and equality in India."

Winner of the Outstanding Academic Book of the Year Award, from the American Library Association.

"One of the most sensational events in recent Indian history was the mass conversion of several thousand untouchables to Islam, in the South Indian village of Meenakshipuram in 1981-82. The resulting backlash on the part of Hindu fundamentalist groups was one of the most important ingredients in the formation of current Hindu religious nationalism. This book is a careful sociological study of the nature and motivation of untouchable conversion to Islam. Mujahid emphasizes the ongoing massive discrimination and official persecution still leveled against untouchables, and he describes the motivation behind conversion as a search for social equality in which foreign funding played no part. The painstaking use of official statistics on untouchables and the capable research on the status of Tamil Muslims maintain an impersonal and profesional tone despite the controversial nature of the subject.

The author raises convincing objections regarding accepted sociological dogmas, such as the use of caste categories (ashra/ajlaf) to analyse Indian Muslim society. The book will be a valuable corrective for students and scholars in Indian studies, history of religions, and sociology. The bibliography, glossary, and index are usefull aids. Recommended for college and university libraries..." C.W. Ernst, American Library Association


AuthorBio: Abdul Malik Mujahid is an author, producer, and imam in the Chicagoland area. He is also the president of Sound Vision.


http://www.soundvision.com/Shop/pview.asp?Item=4316-001

The author does not talk about discrimination by the higher caste Muslims against the
lower caste Muslims and against dalits by the Muslims from the Mughal period to the present times.

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Do not arrest innocent Muslims: convention</b>

Special Correspondent

“It is regrettable that the community is associated with terrorism”

Governments urged to gather strong evidence before making arrests

Call for punishment to officials persecuting innocent Muslims

LUCKNOW: A convention on “Allegations of Terrorism and Muslims” has cautioned the Central and State governments against the official machinery targeting innocent persons .

Solid evidence should be gathered before a person is arrested for his alleged involvement in a terror act, it said.

Inaugurating the convention here on Saturday, the president of the All-India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB), Rabey Hasni Nadwi, said Islam did not allow terror or any other act of violence.

It was regrettable that terrorism was being associated with Muslims. Maulana Nadwi said that it was a crime even to make such an allegation.

He said the country had witnessed many other incidents of violence, which were not included in the category of terrorism.

General Secretary of the All-India Milli Council Manzoor Alam demanded a judicial commission to conduct an open hearing on the arrests made in the last 15 years in different parts of the country.

He said the officials responsible for persecuting innocent Muslims in the name of terrorism should be punished.
“Unmask real terrorists”

The convener of the Rajasthan Muslim Forum, Engineer Mohammad Saleem from Jaipur, said the Muslims of the country were passing through testing times. Admitting that terrorism is for real, Mr. Saleem said efforts should be made by the government agencies to unmask the real terrorists and forces trying to divide and weaken the country.

The Hyderabad-based assistant general secretary of the Muslim Personal Law Board, Abdul Rahim Qureishi, said allegations of terrorism were meant to break the confidence of Muslims. He regretted that terror acts elsewhere in the country were being linked with the Mecca Masjid blast in Hyderabad.

He said hundreds of innocent youths were arrested in the aftermath of the mosque blast.

He alleged that a section of the media was controlled by the police agencies.

Welcoming the participants, AIMPLB member and Naib (deputy) Imam of Lucknow’s Aishbagh Idgah, Khalid Rasheed Firangi Mahali, demanded a White Paper on fake encounters and urged the Central and Uttar Pradesh governments to release the innocent Muslims arrested on charges of terrorism.

The convention was organised by Maulana Khalid Rasheed, Maulana Mohammad Ahmed of the Jamaat-e-Islami (Hind) Uttar Pradesh unit and Maulana Saeedur Rehman, Principal of Darul Uloom, Nadwatul Ulema, Lucknow.


<b>Camping in Karnataka </b>

The Pioneer Edit Desk

Islamists have a field day

<b>Islamist terror, spreading its tentacles steadily across India, had crossed the Vindhyas some years ago. Now it seems deeply entrenched in Karnataka.</b> It is disquieting but not surprising that a jihadi terrorist training camp has been detected right under the nose of the authorities, and for the first time, in southern India. The interrogation of three arrested Islamist radicals and subsequent investigations which have unearthed a thick forest area flanking Dharwad and Uttara Kannada districts of Karnataka being used for nefarious purposes, has revealed much more than the existence of terrorists in this part of the country. It has partly explained the phenomenon that could well have turned local doctors into the Glasgow bombers; one of the arrested jihadis, Mohammed Asif, is an MBBS student. The woods, surrounded by religious shrines, had been serving as training camps of Islamist recruits, teaching them how to use firearms. Most obnoxiously, Pakistani flags have been found fluttering mockingly at the camp whose existence has sinister implications, <b>indicating that the terrorist network in southern India is much wider and better organised than what was so far believed.</b> It's now understood that the recent spate of terrorist attacks in southern India -- from the shooting at Bangalore's Indian Institute of Science to Hyderabad's Mecca Masjid blasts -- were no flashes in the pan. <b>These have all been part of a concerted plan by groups such as Lashkar-e-Tayyeba to extend terrorism's scary hold on more and more parts of the country and inflict increasing injury to the Indian state. </b>Bangalore has, in particular, been a target for long, with Islamist terrorists' indefatigable efforts to build capabilities out of this city as part of attempts to build bases in southern India.

Though Islamist terrorists did not find much initial success in the south for want of enough recruits, they have been resilient and finally been able to vitiate and motivate the minds of many in the local population to execute their nefarious plans. The exposed training grounds are indicative of a natural progression whereby the various terrorist outfits, networked with Pakistan -- prime suspect Mohammed Ghouse worked for a terror outfit in Pakistan -- have been expanding their activities. <b>That they have been allowed to establish a base in Kalghatgi speaks volumes of the apathy India's security issues have received from authority although the Prime Minister does tend to lose his sleep when potential jihadis are picked up.</b> It is surprising that each time the issue of Islamist terrorism in southern India is raised, it is swept under the carpet as if the problem does not exist. The latest revelations have come as a wake-up call. <b>If the Centre and the State Government continue to sleep, India will have to bear the cost of their monumental folly</b>.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>SIMI ban to continue: Govt </b>
PTI | New Delhi
Posted online: February 07, 2008
The Union Government on Thursday decided to reimpose the ban on Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) for two years for its alleged links with certain Pakistan-based terrorist outfits.

"The ban, which is in force till today, will be reimposed tomorrow for two years," a senior Home Ministry official said on Thursday.

The decision to reimpose the ban under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, was taken at a meeting of the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS).

Nearly three-dozen outfits including Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Jaish-e-Mohammed and Harkat-ul-Jehadi Islami, have been banned by the Government for their links with terror outfits, most of them based in Pakistan.

The decision to continue the ban on SIMI was taken as the group continued to indulge in unlawful activities, the Home Ministry official said.

The ban on SIMI was imposed for the first time in September 2001. SIMI was initially banned for two years after intelligence reports showed that its cadres were joining Pakistan-based Lashker-e-Taiba (LeT) and was providing logistical support in setting up of "sleeper cells" in the hinterland. Some of its members had also received training by Lashker in Gulf countries. The ban has been extended subsequently.

SIMI has been accused of carrying out terror attacks across the country, including the Mumbai train blasts in 2006.
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<b>Keep a close watch on what is happening in the case. Very imp ramifications regarding internal security and radicalisation of indian muslims. There is still a huge consignment of RDX missing which was brought in from bangladesh.</b>

Asif leads police to arms cache
DH News Service, Dharwad:

<b>Explosives were unearthed by the police at Halligeri forest on Haliyal Road, near here on Thursday evening.</b>

The police found the cache of explosives based on the information given by terror suspect Mohammed Asif during interrogation. <b>Even though the suspect had tried to mislead the police with regard to the exact location of the explosives a major breakthrough came on Thursday evening.</b>

Co D IG M R Pujar, senior officers S S Khot and Sudhakar took Asif to Halligeri and recovered a hand bomb, 100 wire caps and 85 gelatin sticks packed in a bag.

Asif initially said that he had forgotten the exact location. But the police continued their search in the forest for more than one hour. Later, Asif took the police to the spot and the police unearthed the explosives. Asif reportedly told the police that he and other terrorists Adnan and Asadulla Abubakkar stayed in the jungle for one night to prepare the explosives.

Earlier the police had recovered a timer and a detonator, used to trigger off sophisticated explosives like RDX, from Asadulla’s room at Hemanth Nagar in Hubli.

Sources said that Thursday’s discovery was a major breakthrough in proving the fact that terrors had established a network in the region. <b>The latest developments may also help the police to trace the exact destination of a huge consignment of explosives reportedly transported from Bangladesh to North Karnataka.</b>

Meanwhile, the police took a hotelier from Belgaum into custody for alleged links with Adnan from Bijapur, who is now at large. Sources said that the hotelier spent several days with the suspect terrorists.
News related to the above planned terror attack.

Goa tourist spot was on terror hit list: Police
From Devika Sequeira, DH News Service, Panaji:

A popular night spot on the Baga-Calangute coast that attracts thousands of young party goers had been zeroed in for a strike by terror suspects Riyazuddin Naser and Asadullah Abubaker who are in the custody of the Karnataka police.

“They were looking for a crowded tourist place where they could do the most damage and had zeroed in on a night spot in North Goa,” Inspector General of Police Kishen Kumar told Deccan Herald.

A team of Goa Police dispatched to Karnataka has learnt from interrogations that Naser and Abubaker made three trips to Goa in October and November last year. They travelled here twice on a motorcycle to survey possible target locations in North and South Goa, and returned to Karnataka the same day. On the third occasion, they travelled by bus and spent a night in a lodge in Panaji which did not even record their stay. “They wanted to strike around New Year’s eve when Goa is packed with tourists,” Kumar said, underscoring the fact that with over 20 lakh holidayers a year, Goa was a “soft target” for a terror strike.

<b>One attack would set the tourism industry back by 10 years, the IG said stressing the fact that tourism industry had an equal responsibility in improving security measures and co-operating with the police in keeping a proper register of guests and tenant verification.</b>

Senior police officials have identified the crowded beaches of Baga, Calangute, Colva, Arambol, Mira Mar, the offshore casinos and the increasingly popular night markets as soft targets. <b>The night market at Arpora attracts thousands of tourists every Saturday. Yet the spot has a narrow approach road and almost no parking space to speak of. Political patronage allows the market to carry on with little concern for public safety, police said.</b>


<b>Brain mapping test for terror suspects</b>
DH News Service, Bangalore:

<b>Terror suspects Mohammed Ghouse alias Riyazuddin Nasir and Asadullah Abubaker were subjected to a brain mapping test on Thursday.

The two ere put to tests at the Bangalore Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL).</b>

Before being driven to FSL at Madiwala, the two suspects were taken to Jayadeva Institute of Cardiology.

For nearly two hours, doctors examined the two and gave the green signal to put them under the scanner. However, the two will undergo narco analysis on Friday at the Bowring hospital.

Based on the outcome, the truth serum tests might be extended by a day or two.

<b>A senior CoD officer told Deccan Herald that the questions they had prepared and the outcome of the tests are encouraging.

“We need to wait and gather more facts, especially with regard to the money and arms flow to the terrorist organisations. A lot depends on the narco tests,” the officer said.</b>
Goa catch is fishy, wait for another week, we may hear different story.
^^ The news about Goa is confirmed. Even before the national media picked it up there were reports in local news channels about naser and abubaker having made a detailed recce of sites in goa.

goa is important target for the jehadis since many foreign tourists from countries like america and israel visit its beaches. In the past too abu salem had tried to target goa before he was deported from portugal.
Latest news regarding the arrest of terrorists in karnataka.

Between 40-70 students of KIMS(Karnataka Institute of Medical Sciences) Hubli are reportedly missing. These students are reported to be the accomplices of the naser and abubaker and conducted an clandestine meeting in their hostel room some months before he was eventually arrested. The matter was reported to the Institute director at that time but he tried to hush it up to save the college's reputation without caring about the consequences.

Now since CoD is investigating this matter and police teams from other states are camping in bangalore slowly the whole truth about the planned terror attacks is coming to light.
Political situation in Goa is unstable, to divert attention and telling Goaian that you are save in current government. Indian Government regularly release red alert all over India. I can bet as of today 90% Indian is under red alert. Arrest of two people is suspicious. For big operation there must be 20-25 people involved including local handler. Arresting just two is eye wash.

We should watch how Government/police behave or modus operand, when they behave like Paki, it means it is just nonsense.


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