03-10-2010, 07:58 PM
[quote name='dhu' date='09 March 2010 - 10:54 PM' timestamp='1268154963' post='105001']
It was discussed on IF long time back. A very recent expansion time for R is a nightmare for gora. And this is precisely what the data is showing.
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Dhu, a few days ago, the Y-DNA of King Tut was found to be R1B
R1B seems to start in Iran and go south of the caspian sea on both sides of the mediterranean
Many Berbers have R1B too
The basques are R1B too
Meaning the original R1B language was non-IE
On wiki, the earliest dates of R1A is 14000 BC in India
and 9000BC for Poland
Assuming at 9000BC, the slavs were in Af-pak and migrated with IE-Satem
and at 5000BC, went into R1B areas as an IE speaking elite
the satem-centum switch is likely to have happened at this point
Satem = R1A, Centum = R1B
For example the sentence
The wolf mother
is Vrkasya Matam in Sanskrit and Vilkos Matina in Lithuanian
both R1A, Satem
Whereas in Greek and Latin, both R1B, it is Lupum Mater
I think Centum languages are like Malayalam
A large amount of Sanskrit words but ultimately rooted in Tamil
Thats why the excercise to find proto-IE is a fools errand
It may be easier to find Proto-Satem
It was discussed on IF long time back. A very recent expansion time for R is a nightmare for gora. And this is precisely what the data is showing.
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Dhu, a few days ago, the Y-DNA of King Tut was found to be R1B
R1B seems to start in Iran and go south of the caspian sea on both sides of the mediterranean
Many Berbers have R1B too
The basques are R1B too
Meaning the original R1B language was non-IE
On wiki, the earliest dates of R1A is 14000 BC in India
and 9000BC for Poland
Assuming at 9000BC, the slavs were in Af-pak and migrated with IE-Satem
and at 5000BC, went into R1B areas as an IE speaking elite
the satem-centum switch is likely to have happened at this point
Satem = R1A, Centum = R1B
For example the sentence
The wolf mother
is Vrkasya Matam in Sanskrit and Vilkos Matina in Lithuanian
both R1A, Satem
Whereas in Greek and Latin, both R1B, it is Lupum Mater
I think Centum languages are like Malayalam
A large amount of Sanskrit words but ultimately rooted in Tamil
Thats why the excercise to find proto-IE is a fools errand
It may be easier to find Proto-Satem