[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='09 January 2012 - 03:36 AM' timestamp='1326059886' post='114167']
The more simpler possibility is that Vedic Sanskrit is not the root but a branch very very close to the root, and
when the IE migration happened out of Punjab at 4000 bc, the language extant at that time was Indo-Hittite-European
and the earliest split is between Hittite and Indo-European languages[/quote]
Nichols actually predicted Oppenheimer's Southern route using her linguistic modeling of
1. paleo expansion into tropical asia and creation of extreme diversity due to a long-standing effective population size
2. much later followed by expansions to the eurasian extremes (Europe),
2a. contraction during the ice age, and
3. convergence during the neolithic, including her findings of Europe being the refugia of eastern expansions and the steppe being merely an extinction chamber.
The above has been modeled as consistent with serial founder effects from Asia leading to the ME/western populations. Metspalu actually shows these "budding offs" of the ME/W genomes (least diverse) from S Asia (most diverse). The more basic genome split with E Asia is due to the Toba line which was never overcome.
Prior to the ice age and even after, European linguistic diversity would have been expected to be about half that of Melanesia/Guinea, in other words, European diversity would have been quiet a bit -- Europe is however situated at the receiving end of Eastern expansions which erased the aboriginal european diversity. t
Elst notes the same about familial-level diversity being the most important indication of the locus in his Update.
Also, it is worth repeating that all R lines are anchored in S Asia by P and MNOPS.
Not only have these jokers destroyed S Asian history but also that of native ME.
The more simpler possibility is that Vedic Sanskrit is not the root but a branch very very close to the root, and
when the IE migration happened out of Punjab at 4000 bc, the language extant at that time was Indo-Hittite-European
and the earliest split is between Hittite and Indo-European languages[/quote]
Nichols actually predicted Oppenheimer's Southern route using her linguistic modeling of
1. paleo expansion into tropical asia and creation of extreme diversity due to a long-standing effective population size
2. much later followed by expansions to the eurasian extremes (Europe),
2a. contraction during the ice age, and
3. convergence during the neolithic, including her findings of Europe being the refugia of eastern expansions and the steppe being merely an extinction chamber.
The above has been modeled as consistent with serial founder effects from Asia leading to the ME/western populations. Metspalu actually shows these "budding offs" of the ME/W genomes (least diverse) from S Asia (most diverse). The more basic genome split with E Asia is due to the Toba line which was never overcome.
Prior to the ice age and even after, European linguistic diversity would have been expected to be about half that of Melanesia/Guinea, in other words, European diversity would have been quiet a bit -- Europe is however situated at the receiving end of Eastern expansions which erased the aboriginal european diversity. t
Elst notes the same about familial-level diversity being the most important indication of the locus in his Update.
Also, it is worth repeating that all R lines are anchored in S Asia by P and MNOPS.
Not only have these jokers destroyed S Asian history but also that of native ME.